00:52.3
Yung mga todong nakakatawa.
00:55.6
Tapos sa dulo, magpapasok.
00:57.0
Napro-promote sila ng sugal.
00:59.7
Hindi naman ako nabitag, sabi niya, sa pagsusugal.
01:09.2
Depende siguro sa tao, attorney, sabi niya.
01:14.7
Ito ang comment ko doon.
01:19.9
If you are in that particular spot na kung saan, hindi ka nila madideceive.
01:27.0
Para gawin yung mga gusto mo nilang gawin mo.
01:32.6
Ang problema ko dyan,
01:34.5
ang problema ko dyan,
01:36.2
you are giving these people who are promoting gambling,
01:41.8
you are giving them opportunity to reach other people.
01:48.8
Because you engage with them, you watch them, you patronize them.
01:55.8
Siyempre, pag gano'n na nangyayari, napro-promote din sila, nagkakaroon sila ng views.
02:02.2
Then, ang mangyayari dyan, pwedeng mapanood yan ng mga ibang tao na hindi kasing katalino mo.
02:11.9
Magkakaroon sila tuloy ng mga biktima.
02:16.1
Yun ang problema dyan.
02:18.2
Kaya mga kapatas natin,
02:19.3
I still don't encourage people watching basura content.
02:25.8
Because if you do it,
02:27.9
even if, like for example,
02:31.0
you know your red flags,
02:33.0
alam mo kung ang dapat mong gawin.
02:36.1
Naki-criticize mo lahat ng ginagawa nila, hindi ka nang hulog sa bitag nila.
02:40.3
Ang problema dyan,
02:42.2
you are delivering them to the people na magiging biktima nila.
02:50.9
Anyway, let's go here mga kapatas natin.
02:54.1
Kasi kung hindi tayo nagpunta doon,
02:56.2
malamang hindi nila inaksyonan yung red notice list na yun.
03:01.5
Kung natatandaan nyo ang red notice list na yan,
03:04.2
ay nilabas ng Interpol yan,
03:09.4
So, since February 27,
03:12.5
hanggang sa pagpunta natin doon,
03:18.2
Ang coordination naman natin sa kanila,
03:20.5
in fairness to the authorities in Timor-Leste,
03:31.3
walang extradition treaty ang Pilipinas at Timor-Leste.
03:36.5
Pero pag titignan nyo sa balita
03:39.0
at sa declaration ng Department of Justice,
03:42.8
sinasabi nila na undergoing na daw
03:46.2
o isusunod na daw yung extradition process.
03:50.7
Kaya nga sinabi ko sa inyo, diba?
03:52.7
Most likely deportation at hindi extradition.
03:57.7
Siguro March 3 lang ang natatandaan ko.
04:05.0
Earlier than March 3,
04:06.8
may coordination na tayo sa intelligence service nila
04:09.1
kay Director Long Hinos Montiero.
04:13.2
Yun ang kausap natin doon.
04:18.2
Tayin lang natin sandali yung mga kasama ko.
04:20.6
Gusto ko rin sila na pakilala sa inyo
04:22.8
kasi isang buong team to.
04:24.0
At yung mga behind the scenes nito,
04:27.4
hindi naging madali din sa amin
04:28.7
ang pakipag-uusap.
04:31.5
So pag makikita nyo dito,
04:33.0
talagang they are in close coordination, no?
04:36.4
Sa kanila, kaya lang,
04:37.8
hindi natin pwedeng
04:38.8
hindi maintain yung magandang relationship natin
04:41.9
dahil babalik tayo doon.
04:43.1
Baka mas lalong mahirapan yung team na babalik.
04:47.5
maganda ang pakikitungo.
04:50.0
Maganda ang pakikitungo.
04:52.1
Diba rin yung assault team ng Marine?
04:55.0
You will have to fight every inch of the territory.
04:58.0
Ganon din ang nangyari sa amin
05:00.0
kung paano kami makapasok sa kwarto,
05:02.0
paano kami makakuha ng
05:10.0
Ang hirap-hirap, yun yung last objective namin.
05:15.0
Yung last objective.
05:17.0
So dito mga kapatid natin,
05:18.0
sa press conference nila kanina,
05:19.0
pinapakita nila na
05:22.0
nahihirapan daw sila.
05:24.0
Makipag-ignayan sa Timor-Leste mga kabatas natin.
05:27.0
Tapos hanggang ngayon mga kabatas natin,
05:29.0
meron pa rin mga problems
05:31.0
in relation to it.
05:33.0
Kasi alam naman natin na nasa local authorities na ng Timor-Leste
05:41.0
ang dami-dami kasing kuro-kuro na gumagana dito.
05:50.0
yung ginawa nila dito
05:58.0
nahihirapan sila?
06:10.0
That's a valid point
06:18.0
extradition treaty
06:26.0
Tevez dun sa nangyari sa kanya.
06:28.0
Pero when you also come to think of it,
06:38.0
local government natin
06:42.0
without the blessing
06:48.0
Our government also will be in deep trouble.
06:55.0
if you will be going there
06:58.0
you will be acting
07:01.0
the blessing of the authorities,
07:04.0
huhuli ka ng tao,
07:06.0
that will be illegal.
07:09.0
Because you are outside your jurisdiction.
07:14.0
You are outside of your jurisdiction.
07:21.0
I don't think you will be the only one in your jurisdiction.
07:31.0
hindi yo magsimuli
07:33.0
B vita至 ba agad ang kay nga natin?
07:38.0
mga mga tahay na,
07:40.0
sa ang universo palo.
07:44.0
For ang bido ng may kapadya.
07:47.0
Ito kaya tayo ba mas hablando
07:50.6
Ang NCR na involved dito sa
07:52.8
investigation, although marami doon
07:55.0
sa ating units na involved sa investigation
08:03.2
Siya naman sa anti-
08:05.3
terrorist natin. In the event
08:07.2
na magkaroon na tayo ng
08:13.2
piniprepare natin sila.
08:15.1
Tapos yung ating international operation.
08:16.9
So makikita nyo ito yung problema nila.
08:26.3
because of the purpose of
08:28.7
bringing him to the Philippines.
08:45.0
Meron kayang ibang dahilan kung bakit
08:47.1
nadakip doon si Tevez?
09:01.1
ang nag-collate ng lahat ng dokumento at
09:02.9
nag-coordinate para mapabilis
09:10.8
kinakailangan dokumento doon.
09:13.3
Lahat ng dokumento kasi kinakailangan
09:18.2
humingi rin tayo na...
09:20.0
Tapos bakit ngayon pa lang nila ginagawa yan?
09:25.5
Naalala nyo yung sinabi ko nung last, no?
09:28.3
pag-extradition yung gagawin nila
09:30.9
kasi lumabas sa news eh.
09:34.3
Papakita ko sa inyo.
10:05.9
na nasa kustodiya ng Timor-Leste
10:08.7
Police. Extradition
10:10.7
process inaayos na
10:12.2
sabi ng Department of Justice.
10:20.3
deportation extradition
10:25.9
Tevez faces extradition
10:34.1
Three days ago. Pagtitignan nyo
10:36.1
mga kabatas natin, no? Three days ago
10:45.3
after one day, two days ago,
10:48.2
kinoment ko rin kasi ito eh.
10:50.4
Sinabi ko sa inyo, bakit ngayon lang yung
10:56.4
Diba dapat parang deportation
10:58.4
ang mangyayari dyan? Kasi unwanted
11:00.4
na siya doon sa kabila.
11:06.7
Ngayon, two days ago,
11:09.5
For multiple murder, frustrated murder,
11:11.7
and attempted murder cases before
11:15.1
D.O.J. spokesperson Mico Clavano said officials
11:17.6
of the National Bureau of Investigation
11:19.3
are in coordination with Timor-Leste
11:21.4
authorities to bring back Tevez
11:23.3
to the Philippines.
11:24.6
Yung pinaka-priority po.
11:29.8
Ni Secretary Mulia ngayon,
11:32.0
yung kaligtasan po ni Ginoong Tevez.
11:35.2
napakalaking kaso ito para sa atin
11:37.7
and we just want...
11:41.6
Under what, guys?
11:46.9
Mga kabadis natin, this is my question to you, no?
11:51.9
Kung ngayon pa lang sila nakikipag-coordinate
11:54.8
in relation to the deportation
11:56.8
or extradition of
12:16.9
I had the impression talaga
12:20.4
there was a very good
12:26.8
the Philippines and
12:33.3
bakit magiging issue pa yung safety ni Tevez?
12:36.7
I want to make sure
12:38.7
that he is here to stand trial, safe and sound.
12:41.4
The D.O.J. explained that there are
12:42.8
two modes to bring back Tevez to the country,
12:45.3
deportation and extradition.
12:46.9
While the Philippines has no extradition treaty
12:49.8
with Timor-Leste.
12:51.7
So, you cannot do
12:57.6
extradition treaty.
13:01.2
extradition provisions are included
13:03.2
in the United Nations Convention
13:05.0
against Transnational Organized Crime.
13:11.1
terrorism, right?
13:19.0
asasabi ni Champ Olive,
13:27.0
your critical thinking.
13:34.6
Hindi kaya overstaying
13:42.7
Ang issue din kasi dyan,
13:45.0
cancelled yung passport niya.
13:46.9
Gano'n ka ba pwedeng tumagal
13:51.2
Timor-Leste, di ba?
13:54.8
Dito sa Pilipinas kasi,
13:56.0
if you will visit,
14:04.4
if you will visit in any country
14:08.9
ang mangyayari dyan,
14:11.0
you will be given
14:13.3
an amount of time
14:15.0
wherein you can stay.
14:17.7
Tama yung sinasabi
14:18.4
ni Champ Olive dito.
14:19.9
Ngayon, if you want to stay longer,
14:22.0
you have to apply.
14:26.7
You have to apply
14:32.3
para sa extension
14:34.9
you have to use a passport.
14:43.4
Now, if your passport
14:46.9
hindi mo may extending
14:57.1
Sabi ni Frozen Star,
14:58.4
issue ang safety ni Tevez
14:60.0
kasi if anything happens to him,
15:10.5
Political asylum.
15:11.7
As far as I remember,
15:14.4
he was not granted
15:15.3
political asylum.
15:16.9
Nag-apply siya noon eh.
15:24.8
Deportation meanwhile
15:26.8
considering that the passport
15:28.3
of Tevez was already cancelled
15:30.1
by the Department of Foreign Affairs
15:42.1
as ordered by the
15:43.6
Manila Regional Trial Court,
15:46.3
So, if we go back to our
15:47.8
if we choose that route,
15:49.8
the timing will be up to them.
15:51.8
Pero kung extradition,
15:53.8
which will, again,
15:55.8
because of the requirements
15:57.8
we will have to wait
16:07.8
Ito yung ano kung mga kapatid natin, no?
16:09.8
This is where I'm puzzled.
16:16.8
Kasi eventually, eventually,
16:24.8
Ang purpose nila,
16:26.8
kung bakit siya inaresto,
16:27.8
e pawiin siya dito sa Pilipinas.
16:37.8
Dito ako nagulat eh.
16:42.8
ngayong dito sa sinasabi ng DOJ,
16:48.8
kinontent natin ito nung last,
16:50.8
nagbigay ako ng mga senaryo, di ba?
16:52.8
Kasali din doon yung deportation.
16:55.8
Kasi pauuwiin na siya.
16:58.8
I had the impression,
17:03.8
meron ng pagkakaintindihan
17:04.8
yung dalawang bansa.
17:11.8
Pero, dito sa sinasabi nila,
17:13.8
parang, bakit ngayon lang ginagawa ito?
17:20.8
So, ibig sabihin ba,
17:21.8
yung pag-aresto kay Tevez doon,
17:23.8
it was purely an effort
17:25.8
of the local authorities
17:28.8
the participation of the Philippines muna?
17:36.8
Tevez under our jurisdiction?
17:40.8
Sinabi ko rin kasi sa inyo eh, na parang,
17:42.8
susunod na yung extradition.
17:45.8
Yung pinakita ko sa inyo,
17:46.8
parang nagulat ako,
17:47.8
parang, bakit ngayon lang gagawin yung extradition?
17:54.8
Sabi ni Asperneto,
17:55.8
attorney, he was declared a terrorist
17:57.8
kaya madali siya nahuhuli ng Interpol.
18:02.8
Pinaliwanag ko rin yan, di ba?
18:04.8
Pinaliwanag ko rin yan.
18:06.8
Pero yung declaration niya as a terrorist,
18:09.8
the government of the Philippines.
18:16.8
to know that Tevez is a terrorist,
18:19.8
the Philippines should
18:21.8
provide the documents
18:23.8
that Tevez is a terrorist.
18:33.8
yung gusto kong puntuhin?
18:34.8
Kung bakit I'm perplexed
18:41.8
this event is unfolding?
18:46.8
Sabi ni Fabian Lamzon,
18:47.8
parang lack of proper coordination
18:50.8
with Timor-Leste.
19:02.8
Laway-laway lang daw, attorney.
19:05.8
to declare someone as terrorist?
19:11.8
Alam mo yan kayo.
19:20.8
the Philippines should also give
19:25.8
to Timor-Leste that he is a terrorist.
19:28.8
Wala naman ibang panggagalingan ng ebidensya
19:31.8
o kaya proof o papeles na terorista itong si Tevez
19:35.8
bukod sa Pilipinas.
19:44.8
nung NBI sa Prescon kanina,
19:47.8
hiniling nila sa Timor-Leste
19:51.8
nag-update po sila.
19:53.8
Kung di daw sila nag-update,
19:54.8
baka daw hindi mahuli.
20:05.8
yun nga ang sinasabi ko eh.
20:12.8
yung susunod na mga mangyayari?
20:17.8
Nakita nyo dito yung sinasabi,
20:19.8
it's either extradition or deportation.
20:25.8
Sabi ninyo, nonsense.
20:26.8
Di ba pwede red-tagging?
20:29.8
Tanongin mo sa SMNI.
20:30.8
Ha, laway-laway lang to declare someone as extortionist.
20:41.8
Pero kailangan meron kang 27 million subscribers.
20:45.8
Which is very difficult to achieve din.
20:50.8
kapag meron kang 27 million subscribers,
20:52.8
kahit laway-laway lang,
20:53.8
you can declare someone
20:57.8
whichever you want.
21:00.8
Wala nang issue dun.
21:04.8
Di ba? Nakita nyo ba yun?
21:05.8
Nakita nyo ba yun?
21:11.8
Sabi ni Karenina,
21:13.8
if the UN and the US have declared a foreign citizen a terrorist,
21:17.8
if there's no extradition treaty existing,
21:19.8
hindi ba pwede ang deportation as you have mentioned?
21:22.8
Kasi yung sinabi ko sa inyo,
21:24.8
that is the prerogative of the host country.
21:28.8
Parang dito sa Pilipinas din,
21:29.8
it's a prerogative to send foreigners home
21:33.8
if they are not desirable.
21:34.8
If they are not desirable.
21:42.8
Obligasyon na po ng Timor-Leste government
21:45.8
na ipadala talaga si Ginong Tevez dito.
21:52.8
Take note of the term.
21:54.8
Obligasyon na daw ng Timor-Leste.
22:00.8
So if it is an obligation,
22:04.8
hindi mo na kailangan gumawa ng kahit ano pang effort
22:14.8
kasi nga obligasyon yun eh.
22:18.8
Parang for example,
22:22.8
obligasyon magbayad ng utang.
22:28.8
Dapat naman talaga kung magbabayad ka ng utang,
22:30.8
hindi ka nasisingilin.
22:33.8
unless ayaw mo magbayad ng utang.
22:40.8
parang realize where I'm,
22:47.8
where I'm going here?
22:50.8
Obligasyon mong magbayad ng utang.
22:55.8
So dahil obligasyon mo yun,
22:56.8
hindi ka naman na dapat singilin.
22:59.8
Obligasyon ng Timor-Leste
23:01.8
na ipadala na si Tevez dito.
23:09.8
kapag hindi ka nagbayad ng utang mo,
23:12.8
na obligasyon mong magbayad,
23:16.8
ayaw mong magbayad,
23:18.8
hindi ka nagbayad,
23:27.8
o hindi mo ginawa.
23:31.8
So kung ayaw mong magbayad,
23:33.8
doon ka makakasuhan.
23:43.8
kung obligasyon nila,
23:44.8
bakit ayaw nilang gawin?
23:47.8
bakit hindi nila gawin?
23:51.8
O baka ayaw nilang gawin?
24:00.8
Nakukuha niyo ba yung gusto kong iparating sa inyo?
24:06.8
Meron bang resistance dito sa Timor-Leste
24:10.8
sa pag-turnover ng jurisdiction
24:16.8
sa pagkatao ni Tevez dito sa Pilipinas?
24:28.8
Sabi ni Andy Friend,
24:29.8
if Interpol notice issued
24:31.8
versus Tevez as terrorist last May of 2023
24:35.8
and main reason why PH
24:37.8
was able to track his whereabouts,
24:40.8
therefore international community
24:42.8
acknowledged Tevez as a terrorist,
24:49.8
Sa tingin ko, tama naman yung ano,
24:52.8
pinapatunguhan mo, Andy Friend.
24:54.8
Kaya lang, yun nga rin sinasabi ko,
24:58.8
with coordination of,
25:01.8
with the coordination sa
25:03.8
government of the Philippines.
25:18.8
Bawas resources pa sa Timor-Leste.
25:25.8
The deadly attack in Pamplona,
25:29.8
baka naging vague
25:32.8
lang si DOJ Spock sa media
25:34.8
para lang to be discreet
25:36.8
sa next steps, attorney.
25:38.8
Pero tulungan sinabi ko,
25:40.8
this is a critical thinking exercise.
25:44.8
Lahat ng kailangan natin na
25:48.8
tsaka pahintulot sa department,
25:51.8
yung isang opisina naman nang lumakad noon.
26:01.8
nagkakaroon ng problema eh.
26:04.8
Anyway, yun lang mga kabatid natin.
26:06.8
Siguro balikan natin ito.
26:08.8
Balikan natin ito.
26:11.8
Pag-iisipan ko nga rin.
26:13.8
Pag-iisipan ko yan.
26:14.8
Pag-iisipan niyo rin.
26:15.8
Maraming salamat mga kabatid natin.
26:17.8
Tsaka syempre tulad ng laging sinasabi,
26:19.8
matulog po tayo ng mahimbing dahil alam natin
26:21.8
na yung natutulog ng mahimbing,
26:22.8
siya yung laging panalo.
