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It's not for me to judge, pwede tama o mali. Kasi in the end, ang titingin dyan, mataas na hukuman. Pero kung titignan mo, sabihin mo, reasonable ba na gawin yun?

Ang titingin ko, mas reasonable yan kaysa ABS-CBN. If only I could make a comparison. So ang titingin ko dyan, dapat talagang imbistigahan yan. At least dapat imbistigahan. After all, ang imbistigahan mo, a franchise holder. May kontrata sa gobyerno. So ang sakin, tama lang yan.

Okay. How about you, Kalim?

Agree naman ako kay Vergel. May mga specific violations na sinasight ang mga legislators of the allegedly SM&I committed violations of the franchise.

Quite apart from that, I think itong action na ito against SM&I is expected na rin because of its long history of really violating, not so much from where I sit, not so much yung franchise nila.

But yung kanilang tungkulin sa publiko, which is to report the truth and more importantly, do no harm. Their series of red tagging and all of that, pati nga ako, natira na ako dyan ng ilang beses, are harming people. And for that, they should be investigated.

So tama lang, indecision ng house, at least.

Yeah, for me, the house is within their, I think, within their rights.

And if the franchise violations are merited, then are proven, then mananagot sila doon. But later on, may mga caveat akong kailangang sabihin tungkol dyan because from my reading dito, ay medyo may pagkasleeper slope ng konti ito.

I mean, this may tama siguro na gawin nila sa SM&I ito, but where does it stop? Because we first saw this in ABS-CBN.

Now, it's happening to ABS-CBN.

Although hindi siya magandang comparison, pero again, there's a slippery slope here.

And I think Vergel will have some opinion on that one too that we can hihimayin natin later on.

Ayun nga, sir Vergel. Yung slippery slope na binabanggit ni...

It's also one of the concerns I have.

Pwedeng the house got it right at this point, at this particular example.

Pero hindi kayo magamit yan next time.

Kasi highly political yung proseso.

I mean, pwedeng tama yung mga pinagbasihan niyan.

Paano kung nainis naman sila sa ibang news organization?

And they have that same power to revoke a franchise.

What do you think?

Press freedom case din yan eh.

I think ito yung sinasabi natin, slippery slope.

The press freedom aspects of the whole case.

Ang sa akin, alam mo, yung press freedom.

Malaking laban talaga yan.

At kung ako ay nasa press, eh talaga yan na ipaglalaban ko ng gusto.

Kasi yan na lang ang aking kalayaan.

I-sine-share ko pa yung kalayaan na yan sa lahat eh.

I-sine-share ko sa kongreso.

I-sine-share ko sa gobyerno.

I-sine-share ko sa lahat.

Kaya kailangan ipaglaban yan.

On the other hand, ako naman, stickler ako sa maayos na pamamahayan.

Pag nakita ko nagkamali ka minsan,

nagkamali ka ng dalawa.

Ang beses.

Nakita ko na ulit-ulit at yun ang iyon na rin ang mali mo.

Eh ang tingin ko niyan,

eh at least dapat ka na-imbestigahan

kung ang ginagawa mo,

eh naaangkok sa provisions ng iyong franchise o kontrata o hindi.

Kasi ako naman ganito eh.

Dalin mo man yan kahit saan.

In the end, kung gusto mong ilaban ang gusto yan,

dadating sa mataas na korte yan eh.

Tingnan natin.

Pero sa akin, ilalaban ko yan.

Sa isang banda, tinitingnan ko naman din ang bawat kaso.

Sinasabi ko nga, mahirap yan na i-compare sa ABS-CBN.

Alam mo, ang comparison dyan, dalawang punto eh.

Yung ABS-CBN, walang mali eh.

Ang tingin ko, ha?

Yung SMNI, mukhang meron.

Yung ABS-CBN, timid yung mga tao ng ABS-CBN, di man lumaban.

Itong ang tingin ko ang mali, ito laban ng laban ng gusto.

So, dalawang ano yan eh. Maraming dapat tingnan yan.

Although, para sa akin,

ang press freedom case, talagang sensitive na cord yan.

So, dapat talaga himayin ang gusto.

I think kailangan maging vocal,

maging expressed yung posisyong dapat ipaliwanag ng mga bumoto para sa tanggal ng prangkisa

tungkol sa press freedom.

I think this should be very, very clear to the public

na this is not that they're going after SMNI,

not because it was critical of them or hindi nila nagustuhan yung mga reporting nila sa kanila.

They should go after SMNI.

For many, many...

Many violations that it has committed.

Some of them that don't have anything to do with press freedom.

Some of them have to do with human rights,

with international humanitarian law and human rights.

Yun palang punto na yun.

Dapat imbestigahan ng SMNI.

And if that means tanggalan ng prangkisa,

because it is contributing to harm,

then tanggalan ng prangkisa.

Pero dito nga yung pumapasok,

ngayon dito yung medyo masela na usapin ng press freedom.

Ako, minsan naiisip ko,

absolutist ako sa press freedom.

Ang isang posisyon ko,

I don't know what Vergel thinks of this,

is that kahit puro kagaguhan pa yung pinagsasami mo dyan,

you have the right to say that.

At manalagot ka na lang sa existing laws,

ng mga batas,

kung saan nire-regulate yung mga ganong klase mong pagsasalita.

Halimbawa,

if you're going to say something there

that will have an impact on the safety of somebody else,

then dapat managot ka doon.

Tama?

Ito yung tinatawag natin,

crying fire in the middle of a movie theater.

Pero, again,

ang danger kasi dito

is that once

nandito ka na sa path na ito,

na unang nating tinahak nung na-cancel ang ABS-CBN,

susunod-sunod na yan.

So, the next administration,

the next Congress,

what's going to stop them from suddenly targeting GMA?

Dahil hindi na yan ang gustuhan.

A president has been set kasi with ABS-CBN.

And, you know,

again, babalik tayo.

Kami, pareho kami ni Vergel,

pala sa Center for Media Freedom,

pareho kami trustin yan.

Ito, pinag-uusapan namin lagi ito.

Paano mo i-regulate yung mga kabulukan ng media,

yung mga lapses ng media?

Hindi pa pasok yung self-regulation,

industry regulation.

Pero, again,

that is easier said than done.

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