SEC. PARAS KAY PASTOR APOLLO QUIBOLOY, BISHOP?
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Alright, yan. Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa namang livestream.
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Mga kabatas natin, being consistent doon sa ating issue, hindi tao, na direction dito sa batas natin,
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mga kabatas natin, marami rin nag-request dito.
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So, attorney, sabi nila, i-feature mo rin yung points of view ni Secretary Paras tungkol kay Pastor Apollo Kibuloy.
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Kasi mga kabatas natin, alam nyo naman lahat na, well, nag-agaya ko 100% kay Secretary Paras
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doon sa mga sinasabi niya kay Raffi Tulfo because it's very obvious.
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You don't need to even be a lawyer or a smart person to see yung mga ginagawa.
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Yung ginagawa ni Raffi Tulfo ay hindi tama yung ginagawa ni Raffi Tulfo.
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Nagkataon lang, mga kabatas natin, na ang binabato nila, no, ang dinidiin nila doon,
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actually, hindi nagkataon eh.
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Sinasadya lang nila na ang dinidiin nila at ang binabato nila at pinapahid nila,
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lahat ng mga kalokohan ni Raffi Tulfo ay patungo sa akin.
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Na parang ako daw yung gumagawa nun, e samantalang hindi naman.
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Those are not true.
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Those are not concocted.
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Those are not imaginary.
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In fact, many people saw it and keep seeing it.
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Tignan naman natin ngayon, mga kabatas natin, yung kanyang punto de vista dito sa nangyayari kay Pastor Quiboloy.
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Mga kabatas, Secretary, itong mga kaganapan, lalo na sa Senado, itong mga hearings,
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ano ba mga latest dito na medyo nakapuho ng iyong atensyon?
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Pero, unang-una, kamagailan lamang itong tuloy-tuloy na insistence nitong babae na ang pangalan ay Honti Virus.
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Okay. So doon pa lang, mga kabatas natin, makikita na natin kung saan side siya dito.
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Dahil alam naman natin na itong si Honti Virus, ayon sa kanya,
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yung namumuno doon sa committee kung saan pinupukulan ng warrant of arrest itong si Pastor Quiboloy.
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Di ba? Si Pastor Quiboloy.
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Tsaka, syempre, dito rin kasi nag-present ng mga witnesses itong si Honti Virus against Pastor Quiboloy kung saan nasiraan siya.
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Kaya nga yung sinasabi nila, mga kabatas natin, sinasabi nila na parang pag pumunta si Pastor Quiboloy doon sa hearing,
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sisiraan lamang siya. Sa tingin ko, hindi na totoo yun. Hindi na magiging consistent yun.
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Ang mangyayari lang dyan, kapag pumunta siya doon, kasi nasiraan na siya eh.
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Nay-present na yung mga witnesses eh. Now it's his turn to speak.
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Okay? So malamang because it's the Holy Week, mga kabatas natin,
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eh wala masyadong ganap doon because they are, of course, in vacations. No?
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Naka-reset sila. Let's see doon sa mga susunod. Kaya dito muna tayo kay Secretary Paras. Okay?
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Sabi niya, this is also a valid argument or claim. No? Claim.
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Baka naman against lang si Secretary sa Senate Investigation in General.
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Yan. Parang ako din. Against ako sa Senate Investigation in General. Okay?
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Kasi I think nothing good came out of it ever. Okay?
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So pwede rin yun. No? Hindi ko rin naman sinasabi na siyempre pro siya kay Quiboloy.
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Kaya lang, siyempre, yung honti virus, may hint doon.
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Yan lang naman na gusto ko. Gusto kong ipakita sa inyo.
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Bishop Quiboloy or Pastor Quiboloy at nakuha na niya yung gusto niya bilang chairman ng committee ng Child and Women
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at gusto niya talagang makasalumuha si Pastor Quiboloy at siyang nung panahon,
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na hindi man sumipot si Pastor Quiboloy.
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Medyo mas mabagal. Pag titignan nyo dito mga kabans natin, mas matindi yung tirada niya kay Rafi Tulfo.
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Mas maangas siya. Mas matapang siya kay Rafi Tulfo kesa dito sa discussion niya dito.
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Wala naman siya masyadong may pukol-pukol dito.
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Actually, parang you can notice.
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That he is grasping for words. Hindi katulad nung kay Rafi Tulfo. Napaka-natural.
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Ay nanggagalaiti siya at pinapa-arrest niya si Pastor Quiboloy.
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Sinasabi natin na talagang nanggigalaiti itong si Risa Hontiveros dahil tila hindi sisipot at hindi i-honor ni Pastor Quiboloy.
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Yung warrant of arrest.
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Dahil nagpadala na na ang kanilang abugado, si Atty. Balayan,
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ng argumento na bakit hindi sisipot or hindi i-honor ni Bishop.
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You know, medyo, medyo, hindi siya dito.
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Hindi siya diretso masyadong magsalita.
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Tapos medyo paulit-ulit din.
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Unlike doon kay Rafi Tulfo, talagang tira-kontira eh.
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Bishop or Pastor Quiboloy ang mga argumento ni Ginang Hontiveros.
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Pero, Sekretary, doon mo sa pag-i-issue ng warrant of arrest na aksyon ng Senado, naniniwala kayo na yung role ni...
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Ito yung maganda. Ito maganda.
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Ito, ito yung pag-uusapan natin actually dito.
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President Subiri ay ministerial lamang?
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Well, alam mo, ito...
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Okay, ang i-issue dito mga kabatas natin, yung power, is it ministerial or discretionary?
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Okay, papaliwanag ko muna sa inyo kung ano yung ministerial.
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Yung ministerial kasi yan mga kabatas natin, once the requirements are met,
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okay, you don't have any discretion or anything.
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You don't have any participation in saying that it cannot be issued or not.
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Ibig sabihin, kunwari, ang requirements para sa isang...
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Para mag-issue siya ng warrant of arrest, eh dapat may Senate...
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May outstanding o may pending na Senate hearing in aid of legislation tungkol sa matter na ito.
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Tapos, yung resource person na ito ay necessary para doon sa Senate hearing investigation in aid of legislation.
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kung yun lang yung requirements, tapos napunan mo yun.
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So, napatunayan mo kay Secretary Subiri na, oh, meron niyang pending hearing.
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Tapos, pangalawa, relevant nga yung testimony ng taong ito.
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So, dapat siyang ipatawag.
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Tapos, pangatlo, hindi siya sumipot.
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Tapos, nag-show cause order ka, hindi pa rin sumipot.
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Tapos, hindi valid yung grounds niya doon...
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Oh, sorry, hindi valid yung kanyang reasons doon sa kanyang show cause order.
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Yun yung mga requirements na satisfaction.
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If you qualify mo lahat yun, kailangan nang pirmahan nitong si Secretary Subiri yung warrant of arrest.
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Ngayon, kapag discretionary naman yan, even if you have all the papers with you to show na dapat i-issue yan,
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ngayon ang mag-de-decide pa rin dyan kung i-issue yan o hindi ay si Secretary Subiri.
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Kasi nga, discretionary sa kanya yun, ibig sabihin siya yung mag-de-decide kung karapat dapat ba o hindi.
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Ah, participation o ikang pag-sali ni Subiri bilang Senate President ay isang, ano, isang, ano yan, isang task bilang Senate President
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to, ano, to take action.
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On committee, ah, ah, ah, ah, committee representation.
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So, hindi yan pa nasasagot eh kung discretionary o ministerial eh.
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So, hindi yan. It's not a mere, ah, ministerial.
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Okay. So, sinasabi niya dito hindi siya ministerial, ibig sabihin discretionary.
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Ika nga ay, ano, discretionary.
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So, kung ang paniwala ni Subiri, after the show of cause, at naniniwala si Subiri na may
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ah, argumento na maganda tulad ng violation of the right of due process, it will be self-incriminatory
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could have put his
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foot forward against
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Pero ang ano ko kasi dyan,
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ang question ko rin dyan,
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isn't it preempting?
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nag-preempt na na magiging
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dun sa mga karapatan niya
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yung pagsagot niya
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sa mga tanong, samantalang hindi pa
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alam kung ano yung mga
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Hindi pa naman alam yung mga tanong
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so paano magiging
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discriminatory na sa kanya yun.
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violative na sa kanyang mga karapatan yun.
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on the committee's
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request to issue a warrant of arrest
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sometimes there are people
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who does not have really leadership
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who does not really have
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walang moral ascendancy
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parang sunod-sunuran lang
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ano nang nangyayari dyan sa sinayong
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hindi kaya merong humahawak
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dapat pinaliwanag din dito
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kung bakit siya naging sunod-sunuran
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kaya naman siya naging
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disisyon ni Subiri
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na nag uujok niya
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Alam niyo, ito mga kabatas natin
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We will continue that later
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Ang gusto ko lang, tito, kasi maganda itong mga inaano nila
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Maganda itong mga tinutumbok nila dito
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Ano yung unang tinutumbok nila?
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Na there are people who are controlling other people sa Senado
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O kaya dun sa pwesto na ginagalawan nila
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Yun ay isa sa pinaka-red flag, mga kabatas natin, ng isang politiko
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This applies to all positions
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Especially elective positions, mga kabatas natin
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You owe your position to the people
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You don't owe it to a certain individual
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Na ipaliwanag na rin natin ito noon kay Robin Padilla
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Kung saan, sinasabi ni Robin Padilla na may utang siya kay Pastor Quibuloy
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Actually, meron tayong utang kay Pastor Quibuloy, sinasabi niya
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Kaya niya, dinidepensahan
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Si Pastor Quibuloy
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Hindi niya nga daw kaibigan, it's more than friendship
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Conrad, comrad daw sila
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Kasi kasama silang lumaban sa mga terorista, etc.
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Ngayon, mga kabatas natin
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Bakit ka maglulukluk ng isang tao
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Na kinokontrol rin lang ng ibang tao?
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Bakit ka maglulukluk ng isang tao
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Na hindi mo naman interes
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Yung pinapalalaan
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Kung di interes ng ibang tao
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Let's talk about political endorsements
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Merong mga tao na bumoboto
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Dahil inindorso sila ng certain politicians
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Like for example, ang pinakasikat dyan
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Sa mga nangyayaring ganyan
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Ay si dating President Rodrigo Duterte
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Alam natin na marami siyang mga senador na inindorse
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At nanalo sila dahil nga inindorse sila
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O kaya kaalyado sila ni dating Pangulong Duterte
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Ngayon, pag titignan nyo
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Is it that way dapat?
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Ganyan ba talaga dapat yung politiko dito sa Pilipinas?
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O politika dito sa Pilipinas?
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Na hindi pwedeng stand alone yung mga politiko?
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Tama yung sinabi ni Elema Robuso dito
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If you elect a puppet there
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Don't expect to be a puppet there
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Don't expect fairness
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Because they will be playing favors
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Mahirap din yan, utang na yun, obya
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Don't expect fairness
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Huwag mong asahan na magiging fair yung mga tao
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Dahil nag-elect kayo ng puppet
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It is the same as a person having personal interest
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Yung personal interest, yun lang yung kanya ring ipopromote
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Hindi yung interest ng gobyerno
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Hindi yung interest ng mga nakararaming tao
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Kung, syempre, personal interest pa rin yan
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Rafi Tulfo in action
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Yun ang personal interest mo
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I-elect ka dahil gusto ng mga tao
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Sabi mo na mag-Rafi Tulfo in action
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Gustong gusto mo naman
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So you will serve Rafi Tulfo in action
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Instead of serving the government
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Or the public in general
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Kapag puppet ka rin
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Kunwari, na-elect ka dyan
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Because of your utang na loob sa isang tao
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You will be serving that person
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Na may utang na loob ka
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At hindi mo pagsisilban yun
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So, in that sense
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What is the point of having
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As the primordial consideration
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In being an elected official
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Sabi ni Magmalasakit Channel
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Dapat nga kahit ka mag-anak
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Kung alam mong wala namang magagawa
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Hindi dapat i-vote
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That's the problem with the Philippine politics
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And we have a chance
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To redeem ourselves
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Malapit na yung 2025
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You all know the people
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Who already have political ambitions
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And you already know
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Political dynasty
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It has been proven time and time again
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Hindi ibig sabihin na
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Dahil magaling yung nanay
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Magaling yung tatay
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Magaling na rin yung asawa
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Magaling na rin yung anak
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At pwede na rin silang tumakbo
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Dahil pare-pareho lang yan
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Hindi yan pare-pareho
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If ever the problem there
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Is because of complacency
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Because of being comfortable
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With the position
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Mas magiging prone
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Sa corruption yan
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Meron pa silang kasabihan
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Familiarity breeds contempt
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If people are already familiar
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Or well settled with their positions
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Magkakaroon ng contempt
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Against the Filipinos
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Against the government
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Kaya tignan nyo ngayon
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Ano ang nagiging standard?
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Payabangan na lang
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Hindi na yung tama
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Ang sinusunod niyo
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Kung gumagawa siya ng masama
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Basta proud siya sa ginagawa niya
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O mayabang siya dun sa ginagawa niya
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People will think
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Okay lang kasi ginagawa niya naman yan
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At ginagawa rin ni ano yan
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Even if it's wrong
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Sabi ni Bege Elky
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I think politics in the Philippines
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Is not about public service
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But it's all about making money
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And staying in power
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So yun lang mga kabatas natin
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Maraming salamat po
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Ito lang yung laging sinasabi
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Matulog po tayo ng mahimbing
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Na yung natutulog ng mahimbing
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Siya yung laging panalo
