00:20.0
He compared yung experience ng father niya
00:23.4
Fighting against, you know, yung Jim Crow
00:27.5
Yung civil rights movement
00:29.8
Sa deep south, right?
00:31.7
In Mississippi and all
00:32.8
Doon sa ginagawa natin sa West Philippine Sea
00:35.2
Because hindi tayo gumagamit ng armas
00:37.3
So actually, this empathy is on our side
00:39.8
Parang we're using truth force
00:41.3
Sa tegraha, di ba?
00:42.4
Yung ginagamit ni Gandhi
00:43.1
So actually, napaisip ako
00:45.7
In a way, this is how it's coming out
00:51.0
Wala tayong armas
00:53.0
So this is kind of like a civil rights movement, right?
00:56.4
Ang ginagawa natin
00:57.1
I really love that metaphor
00:59.0
I think that's a very, very good metaphor
01:00.7
Which we have to be conscious about
01:02.5
Pero yun nga, you have to look a little bit more palaban
01:05.1
Now, speaking of civil rights movement
01:09.7
Ang tanong ulit ngayon dito is
01:12.4
Ronald, do you think that the issue of West Philippine Sea
01:15.0
Could be a rallying point
01:16.3
For 2025 election?
01:18.5
Essentially, 2025 election is between patriots
01:21.6
And proxies of China
01:23.3
I mean, could you frame the next elections that way?
01:27.3
Aside from, obviously, gut issues
01:28.8
Of inflation, blah, blah
01:30.8
Definitely, Richard
01:33.4
Ano kung titignan mo in one aspect
01:36.0
Parang napakahina ng oposisyon
01:38.5
Lalo na yung mga possible candidates nila
01:41.0
Sa midterm for the Senate
01:43.7
Parang malayo sa mga surveys
01:46.5
Or at least labas sa 12
01:48.2
Yung mga oposisyon
01:50.3
At parang sa House
01:52.4
Ay napakahina rin yung oposisyon
01:54.3
Halimbawa, yung Liberal Party
01:55.6
Na pito, walo na lang ha
01:58.2
May dalawa sa minority
02:00.6
May apat-limas sa majority
02:02.7
May isa as independent minority
02:07.1
Nasaan ba yung oposisyon?
02:09.3
Nasaan ba yung oposisyon?
02:10.6
So, yun yung isang aspect
02:11.7
Pero at the same time
02:13.1
Yung mga issues ng oposisyon
02:15.0
Ay nakakaroon ng traction
02:17.4
Nakakaroon ng traction
02:19.0
Halimbawa, yung usapin ng
02:22.8
Medyo tumataas ha
02:24.2
Tumataas yung anti-Chacha
02:27.5
Halimbawa, yung ICC
02:30.7
Napakusapan natin sa isang episode
02:34.2
At ito yung mga daladalang issue
02:36.6
Ng oposisyon dati
02:40.2
Yung usapin ng West Philippine Sea
02:43.0
Ito definitely tumataas
02:45.4
At ang namumuno dyan
02:47.8
Ay yung oposisyon
02:50.2
Yung ragtag group
02:59.8
Yung issues ng economy
03:01.5
Ito ang medyo hindi pa consolidated
03:03.9
Pero kung makakonsolidate ito ng oposisyon
03:06.6
As a consumerist issue
03:10.0
A consumerist movement
03:13.6
Grabe ang taas ng kuryente
03:20.1
Sa food inflation
03:21.6
Kung magkakonsolidate ito
03:25.4
Into a narrative about consumerism
03:27.5
Yan yung ikaapat na issue
03:31.3
Na pwedeng daladalang ng oposisyon
03:33.3
So may dysfunction ng kaunti
03:37.0
Ito yung mga issues ng oposisyon
03:39.2
Na medyo tumataas
03:40.6
Nakakaroon ng traction
03:41.7
Pero yung oposisyon
03:43.2
Ay medyo hindi lumalakas
03:46.3
So at a certain point
03:48.0
Kinakailangan magbago yan
03:49.6
Kailangan magbago yan
03:51.1
Magbago in terms of fresh faces
03:52.9
Or something like that
03:54.4
Associated opposition
04:00.7
More effective narrative
04:11.2
Nung organisasyon
04:17.8
Ate nito has nowhere to go but up
04:22.4
Itong ragtag group na ito
04:24.0
At ngayon maraming sumasama
04:26.6
Ngayon maraming environmentalist
04:29.0
Magkakaaway na grupo
04:34.2
Catholic Bishops Conference
04:42.4
Ng West Philippine Sea
04:44.0
Na napakalaki ngayon
04:50.9
Ng organizational impact
04:52.4
Dapat magkaroon din
04:54.5
Ang ganyang organizational impact
04:56.5
Not only as a coalition
04:59.4
Dapat may maximization
05:02.5
Halimbawa sa chacha
05:04.4
Kung hindi mag-iingat yung oposisyon
05:07.7
Aagawin niya ng mga Duterte
05:09.2
Dahil anti-chacha rin sila
05:11.4
At mas malakas sila sa oposisyon
05:13.8
So kinakailangan mag-scale up yung oposisyon
05:16.3
Na sila yung may franchise
05:18.1
Diyan sa anti-chacha movement
05:20.8
Na tumataas ngayon
05:22.3
Yung appreciation ng populasyon
05:28.3
Anong basa mo dito
05:30.2
West Philippine Sea
05:31.8
Becoming one of the key issues
05:34.1
It's not the gut issue yet
05:37.2
At the level of inflation
05:38.1
But it is still a resonant issue
05:46.0
Importante yung mga issues na yan
05:48.7
Importante yung issues na yan
05:55.8
Is it about the issues
05:57.6
And how much is it
05:59.1
About dun sa personality
06:00.5
Kasi looking at the surveys
06:05.5
You would see dalawang tulfo
06:09.2
Wala man lang ka-effort-effort
06:11.6
Na hindi malang nagigot
06:13.3
Pero yung mga ibang lumalaban
06:15.5
Para dun sa mga issues
06:18.0
Importante din sa mga voters
06:19.5
Of course yung West Philippine Sea
06:23.0
How much is it about
06:24.2
Really the issues
06:25.5
And how much is it about
06:25.8
Yung sa personality mismo
06:34.4
Kahit wala sa mga survey
06:37.6
Pag come election time
06:38.8
Nakikita mo na yung mga
06:40.1
Tarpoli ni Camille
06:46.0
They can buy their way
06:50.3
A stand on any issues
06:56.5
Buying television ads
07:00.4
How much is it about
07:01.6
How much should they focus
07:03.5
More doon sa issues
07:04.8
And kumpara doon sa
07:06.3
Building a personality
07:10.6
And doon sa pera side
07:14.2
Siyempre yung mga biliyar
07:16.3
Sila may pinakamaraming pera
07:18.2
So they can afford to do that
07:19.7
Pero at least doon sa
07:20.7
Personality side eh
07:23.3
More on question ko
07:24.7
About who they are
07:26.3
Mark that's a good question
07:28.5
I mean can't you bring them together
07:29.8
I mean in a sense
07:36.6
Too much of a problem
07:38.9
Andun yung leadership track record
07:40.8
Andun yung tapang
07:42.7
Police sila in the past
07:44.5
Pwede nila isakyan tong
07:45.7
I mean not nang sakyan
07:47.2
This could be a platform for them
07:49.1
The West Philippine Seas
07:50.3
Yun ang sinasabi ko
07:51.3
Yung dysfunction na yan
07:52.3
Ang sinasabi ko lang
07:55.7
Yung mga issues na yan
08:02.5
Ngayon tumataas eh
08:04.3
Tumataas sa mga survey
08:06.2
Yung usapin ng ICC
08:08.7
Ngayon nagsis 60%
08:11.4
Yung West Philippine Sea
08:15.0
Kaya ang sinasabi ko
08:16.5
Yung mga issues na yan
08:23.9
At the very least
08:25.7
Hindi nai-didikit
08:28.3
May pagkakahiwalay
08:29.7
So kailangan mo ng strategy
08:35.4
Sa panang filing ng candidacy
08:41.2
In less than a year
08:49.3
Officially ng kampanya
08:51.7
Ang bilis niyan eh
08:52.7
So baka hindi mo na kaya
08:54.4
Yung ginagawa ng mga tools
08:57.7
Na gumawa ng brand
09:01.7
Na isumbong mo kay Tulpo
09:03.1
Na kahit saan barangay
09:05.7
Susumbong kita kay Tulpo
09:11.9
Baka may magawa ka na
09:18.3
Hindi kinakilangan
09:20.1
Ng mahabang panahon
09:21.2
Para to create a brand
09:22.4
Pero almost overnight
09:23.8
Nakakreate ng brand
09:27.0
Dahil hindi ko linya yan eh
09:28.5
Yung ganyang klase na
09:33.6
Yung lang sinasabi ko
09:38.6
Dahil very personalistic
09:41.7
Pero baka halimbawa
09:43.4
Pag West Philippine Sea
09:44.8
Magkaroon ka ng champion
09:45.8
Parang anti-corruption champion mo
09:48.1
Si Miriam Defensor Santiago
09:51.2
Ay umangat si Miriam
09:53.3
Sabi nga yung iba
09:56.8
Baka kinakilangan mo
09:58.8
Ganun klaseng champion
10:03.2
Baka pwede kang magkaroon
10:06.9
Consumer champion
10:18.6
Pero yung West Philippine Sea
10:35.3
Na hindi kinakilangan
10:36.6
Ng mahabang panahon
10:42.5
At kaya napakahalaga
10:51.5
Re-electionist eh
10:56.7
Itong dating senador
10:59.3
Tapos meron ka pang
11:02.5
Na halos siguradong
11:07.8
Isang Isko Moreno
11:09.5
Isang Isko Moreno
11:15.1
Something dramatic
11:18.6
You mentioned also
11:19.4
Fresh face and all
11:20.5
One of the interesting
11:22.7
Came to my mind is
11:29.8
The rise of people
11:30.7
Now in the government
11:31.5
Like Jay Tariello
11:33.9
Ang Philippine Coast Guard
11:36.3
Communication skills
11:38.4
Are pretty strong
11:40.0
What about people
11:45.7
Or better for them
11:56.3
Sa binanggit natin
12:01.6
Siguradong mananalo
12:29.3
3 to 5 million votes
12:30.7
Pero ang kanilang target
12:31.8
Is the next election
12:33.9
At saka hindi naman
12:37.5
I think he's already
12:38.3
Kind of in the move
12:40.0
It's about whether
12:46.8
Kay Ariel Quirobid
12:50.9
Going around the country
12:51.9
And he is very hard
12:54.0
West Philippine Sea issue
13:01.5
Decorated soldier
13:03.8
Yung kasama sa mga
13:12.6
On a certain issue
13:16.6
West Philippine Sea
13:19.1
Na din naman yung
13:19.8
Kanyang paniniwala
13:20.7
Maybe he could go hard
13:22.8
Yung pangalan niya
13:25.4
Kung hindi kanyang manalo
13:29.9
For future elections
13:39.2
Across the country
13:40.2
For national security reasons
13:42.8
Inform people about
13:44.4
Yung mga kailangan natin
13:45.3
Sa West Philippine Sea
13:46.8
They have that kind of
13:49.8
That kind of connection
13:51.2
Probably they're also
13:53.0
Familiar with vernacular
13:54.1
I'm just thinking
13:54.9
Like outside the box
13:58.4
But what about people
13:59.1
Who are now in the government
14:00.2
And they have their own
14:01.0
Independent thoughts
14:08.8
They were not like
14:09.5
Opposition activists
14:13.1
In the government
14:14.8
Position themselves
14:16.8
Yung parang mavericks
14:18.0
For national security
14:20.9
Tatakbo si Lacson
14:23.0
Masyadong masikip na rin
14:24.9
Ba't yung Trillian
14:27.1
Yung official position
14:33.4
May malaking possibility
14:34.9
Na magbabago isip niya
14:37.6
At sa lahat ng surveys
14:43.6
Nagposted si Tito Soto
14:50.7
Former Senator Ping
14:54.9
Maybe magkasama sila ulit
14:56.3
Senator Tito Soto
14:57.5
Is doing really well
14:58.4
Right now sa surveys
15:03.2
Yung mga dabarkads
15:04.7
Baka tutulong ng konti
15:09.2
Senator Ping is also running
15:14.0
That's gonna be a very tight race
15:17.5
It's the tightest I've seen
15:28.5
Si Ana is still doing well
15:30.1
Nasa top 16 pa rin
15:31.2
Nakikita ko si Doc Willie Ong
15:33.5
I was with him the other day
15:35.0
Nag-lunch kami nung Sunday
15:36.5
His name is always na doon
15:44.5
Ang top 10 pa rin
15:47.2
Mukhang tatakbo no
15:51.4
If you look at it
15:52.7
This is the worst
15:54.2
Probably we have the worst
15:56.3
But we're gonna have
15:58.3
Elections for Senate
16:01.7
I'm thinking outside the box
16:02.9
Kaya I'm glad that you also
16:05.1
Yung mga ibang people
16:05.9
Are working the government
16:06.7
With their own ideas
16:07.6
And may have the logistics
16:09.4
Increasingly the name recall
16:12.1
But it looks like
16:13.3
It all goes down to
16:14.6
Surveys in September
16:17.6
October is too late na
16:20.8
Those surveys will be
16:23.7
Pero in a negative way
16:27.0
Dependable minsan
16:36.3
Nandun siya sa last 2
16:43.3
Yung iba tumataas
16:56.5
Dyan iikot pa rin
16:59.3
Siguro ang pangtanong ko
17:07.3
Get in the magic 12
17:09.3
Na ganyang kasigip
17:16.6
Para kasama si Lisa
17:20.2
Yung mga malalakas
17:23.5
For a lack of a better example
17:25.5
Pwede pala si IMEI
17:29.1
May mga vulnerable sa kanila
17:32.1
Na matatalo si IMEI
17:36.7
Darating ba yung ICC
17:41.2
Ng tatlong sigurado
17:43.5
Suddenly force space opens up
17:50.0
Ano naman yung positive
17:56.8
Hindi pwede mag slow burn
18:01.0
Kailangan magkaroon sila
18:02.2
Ng disruptive message
18:05.5
For lack of a better example
18:09.5
Yung bigla ka mamarka
18:17.3
Yung Aquino brand
18:19.2
Kailangan meron kang message
18:25.2
Overnight na yung elections
18:28.7
Is there last point you wanna say
18:40.9
Is mga artista talaga
18:43.5
We didn't mention
18:45.9
Voting block excited
18:47.7
Get someone from them
18:54.1
Baka that's the only
18:59.3
Diba yung mamakamatay siya
19:00.8
Malapit na yung election
19:02.0
Papatayin siya sa batang
19:03.6
O tapos papasok siya sa
19:08.0
Si Senator Madrigal ba yun?
19:09.6
Yung kinuha si Kwan
19:15.4
Hindi rin siya masyadong
19:18.6
Nandyan niya malaki yan
19:28.8
In fairness Ronald
19:29.7
I must say Ronald
19:30.7
For the first time
19:32.7
Hindi masyadong kinabahan
19:33.7
Especially nung pinag-usapan natin
19:35.1
Ng mga gentleman's agreement
19:36.6
Ito na ang mga gusin ni Ronald
19:41.3
But at that point
19:42.3
Thank you so much
19:43.1
To both of you gentlemen
19:47.0
The best ka pa rin
19:50.0
Pag-finex ka talaga
20:11.6
We're not going to do it quickly
20:14.7
First world problem yan
20:16.1
Kaya magpasalamat niya
20:18.3
Romance of three kingdoms na tayo
20:21.5
Thank you so much
20:22.7
Thank you, Ronald. Have a blessed
20:24.6
week, of course, as we
20:26.7
get into very, very
20:28.9
somber and, of course,
20:31.0
God willing, by Sunday, quite a
20:32.9
celebratory spiritual
20:34.9
day. So, God bless you guys. Marami
20:37.0
salamat. And thank you for...
20:38.8
Thank you very much.
20:40.5
Salamat sa March. March was...
20:45.1
And happy Easter, guys.
20:46.6
And thank Lord we had a very productive
20:48.8
March. So, looking forward to even
20:50.8
more productive, God willing.
20:52.7
In April and May. And sabi ko nga, pag-usapan
20:54.8
natin, Ronald, Mark,
20:56.7
in-person na nagawin natin, medyo yung
20:58.7
mga isaw-isaw style din, parang si
21:00.6
Seresket. Pero sa Tagaytay, kasi mainit
21:03.0
na. So, magandang tayo ng malamig
21:04.9
na hindi kailangang magbayad ng aircon.
21:06.7
Alright. Thank you, guys. God bless.
21:08.9
Happy Easter and have a blessed weekend.
21:10.3
Happy Easter. Thank you.
21:12.5
The best. The best kayo. Thank you.
