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00:00.0
Ni hao! Hi guys! Hi! Kamusta kayo guys? How are you?
00:08.0
Okay, okay. I think alam na ng mga kaibigan natin anong mga pag-usapan natin.
00:12.3
Ito na, bago natin pag-usapan.
00:13.5
Kamukha ka ng visa sa China, Richard. Wala ka ng visa.
00:16.2
Ni hao, ni hao. Bago natin pag-usapan itong prospect of a congresswoman, Sarah Duterte, right?
00:22.2
Which is increasingly becoming a rumor of the town.
00:26.3
Pag-usapan muna natin yung isa pang kapatid niya.
00:28.4
Mark, reporting live from Davao. So kanina basta yung pag-usapan.
00:33.4
Ano naman itong sinabi ni Pulong kanina na pinagalitan niya lahat ng tao.
00:37.2
And my goodness, even use the idea of if Jesus was nailed to the cross, then why are you nailing my daughter?
00:46.3
I mean, my sister, medyo napagalana ako. What's going on there, Mark?
00:51.5
Parang first time ko siya marinig na ganyan, yung position niya.
00:54.0
Oo, na todo defend dito sa kanyang kapatid na si VP Sarah.
00:58.4
And, ah, dinirect nga yung kanyang galit doon sa statement na nilabas.
01:05.3
Akbayan, oo. Yung sa head ng akbayan na who called out VP Sarah na bakit tahimik yung kay Kibuloy ang bilis mag-defend
01:17.4
pag dito sa mga West Philippine Sea, sa mga binomban ng water cannon, tahimik siya.
01:23.3
Eh, so naglaba siya ng statement.
01:25.7
Ah, sinabi nga niya.
01:27.5
Yung, ito din yung...
01:28.4
Ito din yung statement ng mga vloggers eh.
01:30.2
So, so, medyo ano din sila.
01:32.2
Pareho din sila nila.
01:33.5
Tumadaos-tumadaos.
01:35.3
Na yung statement daw sa West Philippine Sea, ay dapat sinasabi ng Secretary of National Defense, Secretary of Foreign Affairs, at Presidente lamang.
01:45.0
Hindi na daw dapat ito pinapakailaman pa o may nagsasalita pa galing sa iba.
01:49.7
Diba? So yun yung kanyang sinasabi.
01:51.7
At it is not the job of VP Sarah to demonize China or any country for that matter.
01:58.4
Yun ang sinabi ni Pulong.
02:00.1
And, ah, sabi niya, we should also reflect ngayong Holy Week that why you nail everything to the Vice President.
02:06.3
So lahat na lang daw ipinapa ako dito kay VP Sarah.
02:10.4
Okay? So yun yung kanyang, kanyang mga...
02:12.9
I-breakdown natin one by one.
02:14.4
Thank you very much for that, Marco.
02:16.0
Our reporting live from Davao.
02:18.9
Unang-una, of course, facts muna.
02:21.7
Last time I checked, Sarah had statement on all sorts of things including refugees in the Philippines,
02:27.0
the conflict in Italy,
02:28.3
Well, I'm talking about foreign policy, diba?
02:30.8
I mean, given na yung kibuloy and all, and TFL ka.
02:34.3
Pero on foreign policy issues, diba?
02:36.2
Andami niyang statement din on international issues.
02:38.5
Basta may U.S. angle, may Western angle.
02:41.0
Marami siyang statement kaagad.
02:42.3
Not to mention yung kanyang tatay na parating may masabi sa buhay from Ukraine to ano.
02:47.5
So, first of all, it's factually incorrect.
02:51.0
Because, hello, nag-statement na siya almost on anything of relevance except dito sa China,
02:56.1
which raises people's eyebrows.
02:58.3
Yung isa pang sinabi niya is,
03:00.3
Mark, diba, sinabi niya yung actions of China in the West, it's very neutral.
03:04.3
Very neutral. Hindi niya sinabi harassment, disruption, wala, actions lang.
03:09.3
So, totally neutral.
03:10.3
Neutral actions lang.
03:12.3
And then, medyo malang anwar.
03:14.3
Ano sabi niya? Do not demonize China.
03:16.3
So, wow, China pang victim pala ngayon, diba?
03:19.3
So, Sir Ronald, hindi ko nalang patulan yung ibang part.
03:22.3
Because Holy Week magandang, I mean, my goodness, I don't want to talk about that.
03:25.3
Let's just talk about the, I mean, anong gusto nilang mangyari sa mga sinasabi nilang gano'n?
03:29.3
At anong basa mo, Ronald?
03:31.3
Hindi. Wala ka nang kinakailangan ipaliwanag eh.
03:35.3
Napakahalaga nung ginamit nilang statement.
03:37.3
Bakit dinedemonize ang China?
03:40.3
Bakit kinakailangan itulak si Vice President Sara na i-demonize ang China?
03:44.3
No? That was so pregnant with meaning eh, diba?
03:49.3
Malinaw yung kanilang posisyon vis-a-vis China, vis-a-vis EU.
03:55.3
West Philippine Sea, vis-a-vis Chinese aggression.
03:58.3
Vis-a-vis water cannon dun sa ating wooden small supply vessel, etc., etc.
04:07.3
Parang ang nangyayari kay Pulong, in-expose niya yung kanyang sarili.
04:13.3
Dun sa salitang demonize. Demonize.
04:19.3
Parang victim pa ang China, diba?
04:22.3
Very neutral term dun sa action.
04:24.3
Awawa naman ang China.
04:26.3
Sila pang victim ngayon. Sila pang victim.
04:29.3
Bakit natin sila laging pinipinta ng masama?
04:34.3
Lagi natin silang ginagawang kontrabida.
04:36.3
Lagi natin silang pinipinta ng aggressor, etc., etc.
04:43.3
So, baka kailangan kausapin ni Sara si Pulong na,
04:49.3
Brother, brother, diba next time huwag mo na ako depensahan?
04:52.3
Napapahamak ako eh.
04:55.3
Pero parang similar yung press team nila eh.
04:58.3
Yung pagsusulat, yung medyo yung grammatical structure.
05:01.3
Diba? Medyo parang paras lang yata yung mga nagsusulat ng mga press releases nila.
05:06.3
Sinasabi mo ba ungrammatical?
05:09.3
I'm not saying anything. Wala akong sinasabi.
05:11.3
I'm just saying there's a prose. There's a certain prose. I will just put it that way.
05:16.3
I wonder if this is the same team, right?
05:19.3
Kasi diba may mga statement din ng DepEd. Minsan na pa.
05:20.3
I wonder if this is the same team, right? Kasi diba may mga statement din ng DepEd. Minsan na pa.
05:21.3
I wonder if this is the same team, right? Kasi diba may mga statement din ng DepEd. Minsan na pa.
05:24.3
But Ronald, going back to this.
05:27.3
So I think this is a perfect transition because ngayon suddenly I'm hearing that baka hindi tatakbo yung dalawang kapatid even for the Senate.
05:36.3
Baka mag-giveaway na lang si Pulong sa Congress to Sara.
05:40.3
So suddenly the conversation is not Sara's mayor. Mukhang Basta will stay.
05:44.3
And sabi nga ni Mark dun sa previous episode, Basta is already trying to recreate the magic, the dark magic of the father.
05:49.3
And sabi nga ni Mark dun sa previous episode, Basta is already trying to recreate the dark magic of the father.
05:50.3
Or whatever you want to put it.
05:52.3
But it looks like Congresswoman, would that be a reasonable move aside from, well,
05:57.3
for her to go on vengeance move against all of her kalaban sa Speaker of the House of Commons.
06:02.3
Well, napag-usapan natin yan dati Richard, diba?
06:06.3
Hindi yan joke. Parang seriously kinoconsider.
06:10.3
Dahil seriously kinoconsider ay pwedeng mangyari.
06:14.3
Ang dominant na agenda dyan ay galit. Galit kay Tamba Los Los.
06:18.3
Ang dominant na agenda dyan ay galit. Galit kay Tamba Los Los.
06:19.3
Galit kay Speaker. Yun ang pinanggagalingan.
06:22.3
Kaya makikita mo na yung mindset ni Sara.
06:27.3
Makikita mo na yung kanyang style of leadership. Gusto niyang gumante.
06:31.3
At hindi naman siya malayo sa reality, in the realm of the possible.
06:40.3
Dahil kung sakaling tatakbo siya for Congress, sigurado naman siya mananalo.
06:47.3
At lalaban siya for Speaker na hindi naman totally sarado. Bakit?
06:52.3
Dahil kung na yan eh, after na ng midterms.
06:56.3
At magdadalawang isip na yung ibang mga politiko na umalis sa mga Duterte at lumipat sa Marcoses.
07:02.3
Dahil ang agenda na dyan ay 2028.
07:05.3
Kaya baka, lalo na kung si Gloria Macapagalaro ay backer niya, strategist niya, ay baka hindi siya empty threat.
07:17.3
Kay Speaker Martin Romaldez, na tinatawag ng tambolos law.
07:20.3
Just to be clear, so Arroyo, we cannot run. Last time I checked, nakadere-derecho na siya ng tatlong term if I'm not mistaken.
07:26.3
So hindi na siya pwede. So the idea of Arroyo being the Speaker of the House and Bigong being the President of the Senate,
07:32.3
again, this is hypothetical, is out. But could it be two Dutertes in charge of the legislature?
07:39.3
I mean, Sara sa taas, tatay niya sa babae sa taas.
07:44.3
Yung Senate, hindi ko pa tinatanggal.
07:46.3
Paano? Pwede kasi nilang tignan, sayang naman.
07:49.3
Kung may Duterte na tatakbo, malaki yung chance na mananalo.
07:53.3
Whether yan ay pulong, baste, o digong.
07:56.3
Yung Duterte brand is still, kahit hindi na siya kasing lakas before, ay malakas pa enough para makakuha ng seat dito sa Senate.
08:06.3
So baka pag-isipan nila na sayang naman kung hindi nila gagawin.
08:11.3
Kaya hindi ko pa sinasabi na walang tatakbo na Duterte sa Senate.
08:16.3
Pero yung possibility na tumakbo si Sara for Congress at siguradong mananalo at lalaban for Speaker,
08:24.3
kumpara kay Speaker Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo,
08:29.3
Baka sa kanilang calculation ay baka merong in the realm of the possible.
08:35.3
Dahil titignan si Sara, not only as Congressman, not only as possible Speaker, kung hindi as a frontliner sa 2028.
08:44.3
So alignment and realignment might happen around her.
08:49.3
Pero is it worth it kaya, sorry to butt in, is it worth it kaya to lose your…
08:54.3
No, no, please Mark, go ahead. We want to get your point of view.
08:57.3
For me, ngayon ko lang medyo narinig yan.
09:01.3
Pero yung sa Mayor ng Davao medyo gets ko pa kaysa maagaw ng mga ibang kalaban.
09:07.3
Pero as a Congresswoman, is it worth it losing your position as Vice President?
09:13.3
Na kapag merong coup d'état, ikaw yung aangat doon kay BBM?
09:18.3
For a Congresswoman, para balikan si Speaker Martin, at yung numbers sobrang laki eh.
09:26.3
The number of Congressmen that you have to win?
09:29.3
Yes, yes. Sa akin, Mark, it's not worth it. Sa akin, Mark, it's crazy.
09:35.3
Bababa ka, a heartbeat away ka from the presidency, tapos magkong-Congress ka, hindi ka sigurado na mananalo ka as Speaker,
09:42.3
dahil kahit post-midterm na yan, eh malapit-lapit pa submit niya.
09:49.3
Tapong budget pa yan.
09:51.3
Kung yan ay one year before 2028, baka. Pero three years before pa yan eh.
09:57.3
Kaya kung ako tatanungin mo, it's not worth it. It's very crazy.
10:04.3
Sabi ko lang, Mark, parang may nagsiseryoso.
10:08.3
It's in the conversation.
10:10.3
Oo. Parang ang pinanggagawa niya.
10:12.3
Ang pinanggagalingan ay galit. Mukhang yun yung personality ni Vice President Sara eh.
10:22.3
Yun yung isa sa kanyang motivation eh.
10:25.3
Vengeance mode. Oo.
10:27.3
Kung si Bongbong ay conflict-averse.
10:30.3
Ito naman, warmonger.
10:35.3
Yun yung kabaliktaran niya.
10:37.3
Pero I agree, it's not worth it.
10:40.3
Ito, Mark, how do you see it? I mean, if Ronald was arguing that they're in desperate mode anyway, yun yung basa niya, doesn't it make logical sense?
10:49.3
If you're in a desperate mode, maybe you wanna go for gold or go for broke, right?
10:53.3
Which is patakbo na mo yung isa sa Senate, go for presidency, patakbo na mo yung isa sa Congress, go for speaker, and then hope na you capture legislature and then work something from there.
11:03.3
Lalo na kung matutuloy ang ICC this year.
11:07.3
Exactly. I mean, that's the point.
11:09.3
If the confrontation is coming, meet it head-on.
11:13.3
Medyo go for broke na dapat.
11:16.3
In a way, it makes sense. There's a method to that madness.
11:19.3
Let's go for broke. Kasi alangan hintayin mo pa the walls will close in on you completely.
11:24.3
Na better go for it.
11:26.3
I mean, let's be honest. I think she's shoo-in for Congress.
11:30.3
And any Duterte, it's just a question of whether mag top five sila or hindi sa Senate.
11:35.3
Now, hindi sure kung mag speaker kayo ng Senate President.
11:38.3
But it's not totally improbable, right?
11:40.3
So, maybe go for broke. Makes sense for them.
11:43.3
Pero yung nga eh, what you risk eh.
11:47.3
Kung baga, for this risky, kung chess ito, gagawa ka nung risky move na maliit yung odds, pero you sacrifice your queen.
11:54.3
Diba? Kasi nandun ka na eh. Kung merong coup d'etat, if something happens, di ba?
11:59.3
Wala na silang problema lahat.
12:01.3
Yung sa Senate, ano eh, yun ang talagang very, ano eh, yun ang pinaka-possible talaga na kaya nilang...
12:07.3
May chance na they could maraming maipasok sa loob.
12:11.3
Senate presidency, they might try to go after it.
12:13.3
And they will cause a lot of damage if they do that. Diba?
12:17.3
Magpapasok sila dalawang Duterte dyan. Magpapasok sila.
12:19.3
Pero sa Congress, I don't see anong klaseng damage yung magagawa ng isang Congresswoman even if you are Sara Duterte.
12:28.3
Diba? Si Pulong nga ngayon is in Congress, wala namang magawa din. Diba?
12:32.3
He is helpless against 200 other Congressmen na hindi mo naman maano.
12:36.3
Hindi mo naman maano kasi they have their own territories. Diba?
12:39.3
Hindi mo din naman mautusan. Hindi mo na, hindi na ito katulad ng panahon ng tatay nila na pwede nilang gawin lahat ng gusto nila.
12:46.3
Pero yung sa Congress, pero I'm thinking din.
12:50.3
I think they will start to throw in party list na sa kanila.
12:55.3
Yun ang pinag-uusapan namin sa blogs.
12:58.3
I will wait for party list dalaga. I was saying party list na naman may mention mo dito.
13:04.3
Oo. In fact, napapag-uusapan namin, baka nga si Banatbay. Why not?
13:12.3
Paano kung i-endorse siya ni Duterte?
13:14.8
May followers yun.
13:16.1
Meron na silang party list na nasa ano.
13:18.0
Kung hindi mo ka, baka successful siya kay Moca.
13:21.0
The thing is, what if Duterte said, ito yung party list ni Banatbay, i-vote nyo lahat.
13:28.0
The effect on that sa DDS, he only needs 300,000 votes.
13:32.0
Meron na silang party list na yung Moca nga.
13:34.6
May isang chance pa to win.
13:37.3
Kasi ang problema, yung mga congressman nila ngayon na nandun,
13:40.7
even the Duterte youth, even yung mga congressman sa Davao,
13:45.1
they're not brave enough na makipagsagutan sa colleagues nila sa congress.
13:51.5
They need mga may-iingay.
13:53.9
They need mga may-iingay na congressman na manggugulo.
13:58.4
Parang mga kabayan black, pero DDS.
14:02.0
di ba lahat, lahat.
14:03.4
Lahat, guguluhin lahat.
14:05.4
Lahat ng hearing, maawayan, papatagalin.
14:09.3
Kasi you have Duterte youth, wala din, tahimik din.
14:13.2
They voted for SMNI, that's yun lang.
14:16.2
Pero the rest tahimik eh.
14:18.1
Even their own congressman from Davao City, hindi makaporma.
14:22.1
So ang kailangan nila na magpasok sa congress,
14:25.8
yung mga may-iingay, yung pwedeng manggulo,
14:28.9
kahit na huwag mo na akong bigyan ng budget,
14:31.1
basta manggugulo lang ako.
14:31.9
Parang ganun kasi eh.
14:33.9
They need champions there.
14:35.5
They need champions there.
14:36.9
They need champions there, Duterte.
14:38.0
Yeah, I completely agree also, Mark,
14:39.9
na yung sinasabi mo na madadilute yung power mo,
14:42.5
kasi you're just one of 300, right?
14:44.8
Well, there's only five percent.
14:45.5
True eh, kahit Sarah Duterte pa yan,
14:47.7
wala kang masyadong magagawa eh.
14:49.1
So give it to your other ano.
14:51.6
Kasi yung mawawala sa'yo, masyadong,
14:54.1
if Sarah Duterte wasn't vice president,
14:56.0
that would be a good idea.
14:57.5
Kaso yung mawawala sa'yong pwesto,
15:00.7
nandun na, nakauman ka na eh.
15:01.9
They would, Marcos would just give it to
15:04.5
someone na ka-aliado niya, diba?
15:07.3
Strengthen their hold on power.
15:09.0
So, to end this episode,
15:11.9
before we go to the next,
15:12.7
kasi naturally, we should discuss the West Philippine Sea
15:15.2
because a lot of pressure is being put on them.
15:18.3
And we have to talk about Harry Roque, of course.
15:22.9
Gentleman, gentleman.
15:24.4
Okay, pag-usapan natin yan.
15:25.6
But, okay, Ronald, let's do a wild guess.
15:30.1
What's your guess?
15:31.6
Will she run for any position next year?
15:33.9
And also, ikaw, Mark, and why?
15:36.4
Yes or no? Whatever.
15:37.8
Pag nahimasmasan sila,
15:40.0
pag nahimasmasan sila,
15:41.5
pag nakausap nila si Sarah
15:44.2
at mag-dose nila ng cold water
15:46.2
yung kanyang galit
15:47.0
kay speaker, kay Tambalus Los,
15:49.8
yung magiging calculation nila
15:52.4
ay to stay as vice president.
15:55.3
To use the vice presidency
15:57.0
to help yung kanyang mga
16:01.6
So, huwag natin kalimutan,
16:03.2
kahit nawala yung kanyang
16:04.5
hundreds of millions in intelligence
16:07.9
at saka confidential fund,
16:10.0
yung DepEd is still the richest department
16:14.2
sa lahat ng departamento ng gobyerno.
16:16.8
Yan pa rin yung pinakamalaki
16:19.6
Kaya, gusto mo mawala yan?
16:22.8
Gusto mo, kahit pa paano,
16:23.8
may pondo rin yung vice presidency.
16:25.3
Gusto mo mawala yan?
16:26.9
For a fight na hindi ka sigurado?
16:31.6
even if it is after the midterm?
16:34.6
Tingin ko yung mga advisor niya
16:37.3
later on, pinapabayaan muna siya
16:41.1
Mahirap pigilan ng isang Duterte
16:46.5
pag nahimas-masa na,
16:47.9
baka bumalik na sila sa kwant.
16:50.2
So, you're saying, Ronald,
16:52.4
they will be in a better position
16:56.3
especially should the ICC case come,
17:00.8
kung pagpalagay na mag-succeed
17:04.1
na kunin si Digong at saka si Bato,
17:06.7
eh pwede nilang i-spin yan
17:08.5
for sympathy with the vice president.
17:11.7
Pwede nilang gawin yan
17:15.3
At dahil vice president na siya,
17:18.1
ang plano kasi ni Digong dyan
17:20.2
ay magkaroon ng EDSA 3
17:22.3
katulad nilang put si ERAP.
17:25.1
I doubt kung yung
17:26.8
sumuporta kay ERAP
17:28.8
ay susuporta rin kay Digong.
17:32.0
At yung mga sumuporta kay ERAP noon,
17:35.0
Hindi na namin gagawin yan
17:36.3
unless siguradong-sigurado
17:42.9
medyo malabo yan.
17:46.7
baka pwede nilang isipin
17:48.6
na makakuha ng sympathy
17:55.3
Pero kung wala ka ron,
17:56.6
kung wala ka ron,
17:57.4
paano mo siya ma-harness?
17:58.7
Kung wala ka ron,
17:59.8
kung ikaw ay congressman,
18:00.8
parang sobrang baba eh.
18:03.0
Parang sobrang baba
18:04.2
para maging rallying point.
18:06.1
Para makakuha ng sympathy.
18:08.5
yung mga saner minds around her,
18:15.2
Oo, hindi pwede yan.
18:20.4
we wish him well.
18:22.5
Pero he's not also
18:23.7
in the best of health.
18:26.4
Yun ang isang point
18:29.1
Kung mayroong mangyari,
18:33.2
si Pastor Kibuloy
18:34.1
na hindi lang lumindol,
18:36.6
hindi lang bumagyo.
18:38.3
Kung hindi may mangyari
18:40.6
sino yung papalit?
18:43.4
Yeah, kasi number two ka.
18:44.9
Speaker of the House
18:45.7
puts you at what?
18:46.9
You are literally
18:47.6
a heartbeat away.
18:50.9
nakita naman natin
18:51.7
nung Valentine's Day,
18:53.9
yung minamahal natin,
18:55.2
na keep a healthy lifestyle.
19:00.1
that his self-love
19:01.5
especially, of course,
19:02.2
yung mga travel-travel niya.
19:03.3
I'm sure he's gonna get
19:04.5
some good advice,
19:08.4
Mark, ano yung balita mo?
19:09.9
Nabalitaan ko kasi
19:11.4
ilalabas ni Maharlika
19:13.8
yung kanyang pulboron video
19:18.8
Eh, June ba yung kay Maharlika?
19:20.9
for Smith Concert,
19:22.0
meron silang gano'n
19:24.0
Narinig for June, eh.
19:25.0
Mas believable yung April 2
19:26.9
dahil malapit-lapit.
19:28.8
Nakataon yung April 2,
19:35.5
Hindi April 2 lang,
19:36.4
hindi April Fools.
19:39.8
baka April Fools, eh.
19:41.6
Pwede rin, April Fools.
19:42.9
Meron totoo lalabas sa June.
19:44.8
Baka yung April yung
19:46.7
hindi nga lalabas, eh.
19:53.9
papa CGI pa nila yan.
19:55.8
Matagal yata yung CGI yan,
19:57.7
Medyo mahal-malang CGI.
20:02.3
I-deep CGI pa nila yan.
20:06.9
What does your gut say?
20:09.7
are they gonna just drama na,
20:11.2
ah, ayoko na mag-VP,
20:12.4
bawaba na lang ako
20:13.2
kasi in-uppy ako?
20:15.8
and then in the end,
20:17.0
stay put pa rin siya
20:18.7
kasi VP pa rin, eh.
20:20.5
I think the only way
20:21.9
na bababa talaga si Sarah
20:23.8
aalis sa pagka-VP
20:25.3
and kung sakaling bababa siya
20:28.4
ma-threaten yung hold nila
20:30.1
I think that's the only
20:35.9
kung hindi kakayanin
20:37.6
That's why siguro
20:38.3
Baste is making all this
20:39.4
effort to show na
20:40.5
he is asserting na
20:41.9
hindi, kaya ko na,
20:43.7
I can hold the fort,
20:45.6
Pero aside from that,
20:48.6
Masyadong malaki yung
20:49.8
mawawala for something
20:51.6
na hindi naman sigurado.
20:54.6
Siguro pinag-uusapan,
20:56.7
but in the end, ano,
20:57.9
masyado pa rin sayang, eh,
20:59.1
na yung pwesto niya
21:00.9
Because, of course,
21:01.7
everything is also about
21:02.8
2028 for her, no?
21:04.7
of course, she's a
21:07.2
so far we have a president
21:08.8
self-care, self-love
21:11.0
so mukhang 2028 talaga
21:12.3
yung realistic option here.
21:15.4
perfectly sets it home
21:16.4
because there's no way
21:17.0
for us to talk about
21:17.7
the Duterte family and all
21:19.1
without talking about
21:20.0
the best spokesman ever
21:22.3
that the Dutertes had.
21:24.5
si Salvador Panelo.
21:26.6
Ito po ay isang tao
21:27.9
na kilalang kilala
21:31.2
ang Gentleman's Agreement
21:33.1
sa West Philippine Sea.
21:34.9
What's so gentleman
21:37.8
and what's so manly
21:39.7
Pag-usapan natin yan.
