BAKIT BA KASI NANDYAN ANG CHINA? MATAGAL NANG GUSTONG KAMKAMIN NG MGA TSINO ANG WEST PHIL. SEA
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Si National Security Council, si Jonathan Malaya.
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Makikibalita kami, so nagkaroon ng meeting kanina yung security cluster
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tungkol dito sa ginagawang pambubuli ng China, specifically yung latest incident.
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Ano po ba napagusapan?
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Well, unang-una, nagpatawag kasi, nag-request ng meeting si National Security Advisor Ed Anio
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to the President, to the Executive Secretary, sorry, to the Executive Secretary
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because napansin namin na medyo tumataas na yung tensyon.
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There is, kumbaga, alam na nga natin na agresibo, mas agresibo.
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Kasi kung nakita natin yung mga balita kanina, Christian,
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and we released all these videos and footages to the public last Saturday
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and then nag-invent tayo ng media.
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Isang oras pong binayo yung ating unay sa May 4. Isang oras.
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So, and because of that, nagkaroon ng physical injuries yung ating mga tropa
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na papunta sana ng Ayungin Shoal for them to be able to bring supplies and provisions
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to our troops there and mag-rotate ng mga tao.
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So, because of the seriousness of the incident, the National Security Advisor
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met with the Executive Secretary plus the members of the National Security Cluster.
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Ngayon, ang purpose ng meeting na ito is,
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for us to make adjustments to our approach and to recommend these adjustments to the President.
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Okay, napaka-importante. Actually, ito yung mga pag-uusapan natin.
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Adjustments to the approach. Marami nagtatanong at marami tayong mga kababayan na frustrated.
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Lagi nang binobomba yung ating mga tropa yung ating resupply mission.
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Ano ba yung mga pwedeng gawin na hakbang para kahit pa pano siguro magdalawang isip yung China dito sa ginagawa nila?
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You know, Christian,
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kung frustrated yung ating mga kababayan, ano pa kaya kami sa National Security Council?
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Kasi kami yung naatasan ng ating pamahalaan na pamahalaan yung ating West Philippine Sea
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kasi nga ito yung yaman, yamang dagat na magagamit sana natin sa ating pag-unlad bilang isang bansa.
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There are, we have several options in mind.
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Unfortunately, Christian, hindi naman ako academic. I am a government official.
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itong mga discussions na ito will have to be brought to the President.
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And the decisions that will be rendered, I am sure ipapaalam po sa ating mga kababayan.
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Pero as of now, because of national security considerations, I cannot share what those options are.
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Baka kasi we cannot be telegraphing our moves to China.
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Okay, we understand na yung national security implications niyan.
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Pero ito on principle, no?
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Kasi yung ginagawa ng China kasi, sinasagad nila yung mga pwedeng gawin na panghahara sa ating mga vessels
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na hindi umaabot doon sa tinatawag na armed attack, no?
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Kasi that would trigger the mutual defense treaty with the US.
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Pero yung paggante, gamit din yung pagbomba ng tubig, pag binobomba tayo ng China Coast Guard,
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on principle, no? Is that an option?
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Well, na pag-usapan na po yan ng ilang beses, no?
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Pero hindi natin...
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Kumbaga, hindi natin nakikita yung benefit noon.
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Kasi para ang mangyayari kasi dyan is pagalingan na tayo ng mga water cannon, no?
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Just imagine, in terms of laki ng mga barko,
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ang China, mas malaki yung kanilang mga barko kumpara sa atin.
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Meron tayong mga Japan-made na mga Coast Guard vessels na...
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100 meters, around 97 or 98.
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Pero hindi pa rin siya kapantay. Malaki siya, pero hindi siya kapantay ng China.
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So kahit yung mga kagamitan nila, in terms of water cannon, hindi rin ganun kalaki.
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So kumbaga, we are not looking at it.
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Ang response natin, hindi na rin nakikita sa ganun, no?
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But let me just assure the public and Christian na
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kung iniisip ng China na hihina tayo,
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na madadaan tayo sa Indonesia,
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dahil nakakaroon na tayo ng mga physical injuries or damage to our ships,
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natitiklop na tayo,
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as I think they expect,
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they will be in for a rude surprise, no?
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They should not underestimate the Filipino fighting spirit.
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Ang pinaglalaban po natin dito ay hindi naman maliit na bagay, no?
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We are fighting for the decision of the arbitral tribunal,
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which clearly said that West Philippine Sea is a part of our maritime zone entitlements.
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And ang pinaglalaban natin dito is the rules-based international order
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and the supremacy of international law.
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So hindi po tayo magpapatinag, notwithstanding what is happening.
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Okay. Malinaw naman yan, no?
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Doon sa mga nag-iisip lang, no?
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Kung hindi naman China propagandist, malinaw naman talaga kung sino yung merong legal nakarapatan
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dyan sa exclusive economic zone natin.
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Nabanggit nyo kanina na mas agresibo yung ginagawa ng China lately.
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Ano yung mga possible explanations doon?
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Bakit na mas nagiging agresibo sila doon sa pag-atake ng ating mga vessels?
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Well, I cannot, it's difficult for me to speculate, Christian, no?
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Mas maganda sana if I was an academic, no?
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If academic, nawala.
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Unfortunately, I speak for the National Task Force West Philippine Sea
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and anything I say here in your program
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may be considered as an official position of government, notwithstanding,
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kahit sabihin ko,
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it's my own personal opinion.
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But, well, at the onset, I think they're testing our resolve, no?
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They're trying to look for weaknesses or gaps in the way we respond.
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Kasi nga, obviously, the intent of China is to weaken us, no?
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So, nagpo-probe sila, tinatry nilang baguhin yung lakas ng ating mga vessels.
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So, nagpo-probe sila, tinatry nilang baguhin yung lakas ng ating mga vessels.
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So, nagpo-probe sila, tinatry nilang baguhin yung lakas ng ating mga vessels.
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So, nagpo-probe sila, tinatry nilang baguhin yung lakas ng ating mga vessels.
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But remember, at the end of the day, nandyan pa rin naman ang BRP Sierra Madre.
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If we look at it another way, Christian,
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sila ngayon sa Beijing, may sakit na ulo din sila
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because they think they own the West Philippine Sea
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at hindi naman nila tayo mapaalis.
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So, sino ba ang panalo utilizing that angle?
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sinasabi ng China,
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and may mention din ito ng Chinese Coast Guard,
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na whatever happens will lead to Philippine humiliation.
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Napapaya lang daw ang Pilipinas.
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But isn't China the one that is being humiliated?
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Kasi kitang-kita na ng buong mundo
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kung anong klaseng emerging superpower.
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So, that kind of bully,
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that kind of aggression,
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that kind of intimidation,
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that is not the action of a responsible member of the international community.
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So, kung meron ditong na na-humiliate,
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I don't think it's the Philippines.
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It's the People's Republic of China.
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Incidentally, you mentioned yung sinasabi nila
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na parang we should be prepared to bear all the potential consequences
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Di ba pananakot siya na maliwanag?
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Ano bang pagtingin doon ng gobyerno?
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kasama yan sa statement namin nalilabas noong Sabado
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na our position will not be deterred by threats or hostility.
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Kasi may mga ganun eh.
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There's this veiled threats and hostility on the part of China.
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Precisely, the reason is for us to weaken us.
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To create fault lines.
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Kasi kung maririnig mo naman yung mga supporters nila,
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Christian, kilala naman natin yung mga kung sino-sino yung mga yun,
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they're now increasing the warmongering.
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The threat of war.
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Parang, uy, the Philippines should take a step back,
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rethink its position kasi magkakagera
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and let's not push China.
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That misses the entire point.
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They're the ones that's pushing us.
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Yung ginama natin sa Ayungin,
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is a regular mission.
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We have been doing it for the past how many years?
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Ngunit, at walang binagbago yung ating resupply approach.
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Sila yung tumataas yung tensyon.
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So, sila yung clearly at fault here.
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Hindi, let's not miss the point, no?
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Ano bang pakialam dapat ng China?
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Eh, sa atin yung exclusive economic zone.
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Nandun yung BRP, Sierra Madrid, tsaka Ayungin Shoal, no?
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Kasi dapat lagi natin inuulit yun.
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Business being in our exclusive economic zone.
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Pero that being said, no?
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Binapalutang lagi ng China,
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kaya binabomba ng tubig yung resupply mission.
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Kasi hindi lang naman daw purpose ay yung i-resupply yung tropa
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na nakastation doon sa BRP, Sierra Madrid.
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Kundi meron din daw dalang building materials
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to repair the Sierra Madrid.
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Ano ba strategy nila?
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Intayin mabulok, tapos gumuho.
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Then eventually, madi-commission?
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Yan ba yung long-term goal?
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Well, let me answer una.
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Number one, it shouldn't matter kung anong dala natin.
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Kasi una-una, as you said yourself, atin yun.
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It's a long-standing outpost.
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Matagal na yan dyan, LS-57.
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And whatever we do with our resupply mission is our business.
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Kasi tayo nga yung may hawak yan.
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The Ayungin Shoal is well within our exclusive economic zone.
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It's a continental shelf and it has been clearly awarded to us.
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Now, pero let me state this, Christian.
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Wala namang lamang construction materials yung unay sa May 4.
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In fact, kanina sa GMA, pinalabas ni Joseph Morong yung video
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wherein napasok ng tubig yung loob ng unay sa May 4.
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May nakikita ba tayong construction materials doon?
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May nakita ba tayong mga bakal, cemento?
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Kung ano-ano man?
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Kasi nga, pinakita eh.
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So yung sinasabi nila na, why are we bringing construction materials?
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No, we are not bringing construction materials.
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Ito yung mahirap eh.
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When China presupposes something,
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they're escalating the tensions in the West Philippine Sea
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without clear evidence.
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Wala naman silang, they're creating these tensions.
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Even din nga, ano bang pakialam nila kung mayroong construction?
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Construction materials.
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Bakuran mo yun eh, diba? Tama ba?
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Exactly. Kaya nga sinagot ko ng ganun.
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Pero ang nakakatawa is, they're creating problems with the Philippines
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on something which does not exist.
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Okay. Eto, babasahin ko isang comment, ADG Malaya.
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Alam ko kasi this represents a big part of our population
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that's very frustrated with what's happening.
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Of course, I understand kailangan ng nuancing dito.
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Pero pag-uusapan natin ito.
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Comment ni Ian Binondo.
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Daming kuda. Anong aksyon ng gobyerno?
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Hain ulit ng protesta?
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Simulan natin sa kasuha ng treason, yung mga enabler ng China.
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Bakit ang Indonesia kaya pumalag sa China?
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Ano yan, no? I'm not saying that this is the correct action.
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Pero this is a reflection of the frustrated population.
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Well, as I said, we are also frustrated.
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Kaya nga nagpatawag ng high-level meeting today.
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Normally, hindi naman nagpapatawag.
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Nagpapatawag ng ganito because these missions to Ayungin
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are rutinary missions which we have been doing for so many years.
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Unang-una, pumapalag nga tayo sa China.
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Kaya nga naiinis yung China.
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China keeps repeating back to claims of agreements in the past,
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promises in the past.
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Pumapalag nga tayo.
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Hindi nga natin sila pinapakita.
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And yung ginagawa natin, kinaiinis nila.
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So, I don't think it's true na hindi tayo pumapalag.
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Ang gusto nila, sumunod tayo sa kanila.
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And we are not going to do that.
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Dito naman, ADG Malaya, may tanong dito, no?
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Si Alex de los Santos.
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Ano po hakbang na ginagawa nyo laban sa mga vlogger
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o political analyst na nagtatanggol sa China?
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Tulad ni Harry Rodgers.
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Lagi niya sinasabi, napakana daw yan ng US para magkagyera.
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Well, alam mo kasi, Christian, and to our,
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yung nagbigay ng comment,
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we are a democracy.
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parang yung mga komunista lang yan, no?
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We respect their rights to say what they want
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so long as they do not take arms against the government.
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In fact, wala na nga tayong,
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yung anti-subversion law.
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So, to believe in communism is no longer a crime.
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Ang problema natin sa mga NPA is,
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pag nag-ano sila ng armas, no?
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Nag-hawak sila ng armas.
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Ganon din yan dyan sa mga vloggers na yan.
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They are just exercising their rights
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to express their views, no?
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Once they don't cross the line, no?
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The line into treason,
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and I'm sure our lawyers would be able to explain that better than me, no?
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We can't do anything about them.
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The way to fight them is by spilling out the facts, no?
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Parang yung disinformation lang yan or fake news.
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Ilabas natin yung totoo
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para maintindihan ng ating mga kapabayan
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at wala nang makinig sa kanila.
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Okay, understand dyan.
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falsehood with facts.
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Kaya nga may first day.
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Pero syempre, napaka-importante dyan
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sa paglaban sa disinformation.
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In this context, yung Chinese influence operations
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na napakalawak, no?
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Meron bang malino na strategy,
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for instance, yung National Security Council,
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in terms of dealing with the specific
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which is the Chinese influence operations?
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Kasi nga, honestly,
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hindi naman sapat na sabihin yung line,
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You also have to understand
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yung distribution channels,
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kung saan namamayagpag yung mga disinformation
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na ginagawa nila.
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So, talk to us about the strategy
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or kung ano man yung ginagawa ng gobyerno.
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Yes, we understand that this is a national security issue.
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We started this effort
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around middle of last year,
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nung nakita namin na
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mabigat pala yung
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Chinese malign information operations
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in the Philippines.
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itong lahat ng mga information operations
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para malaman natin yung extent
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ng who are the actors,
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what are the activities that they do,
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what are the narratives that they do,
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nagkakatraction ba itong mga ito.
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These are the things that keep us at night.
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Kasi very important yung cognitive.
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This is part and parcel of hybrid warfare.
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Ito yung sinasabi mo kanina, Christian,
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na what China does
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the level of the Chinese.
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Ito yung level of kinetic warfare.
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Yung quote-unquote gray zone tactics.
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And part of gray zone tactics
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is what is known as cognitive warfare.
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in the position of the,
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creating fault lines
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creating misinformation
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so as to doubt the government position.
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Lahat yan, ginagawa nila.
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we appreciate and we
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are trying to understand
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their operations here now.
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We feel it is a security issue.
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also to update our laws
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with regards to this.
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Kasi nakita namin
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for example, Australia,
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they all have passed their
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foreign interference acts.
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And then Singapore
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also just passed,
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At meron na silang kinasuhan
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na isang individual.
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So we have been talking to our partners and allies
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on how to craft our own
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about foreign interference.
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And we're also looking at
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how to fortify our
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Kasi paparating ng election
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and then meron pa tayong 2028.
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And ang nangyayari ngayon,
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mas nagiging uso yung
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foreign interference in elections.
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So given that we are at the forefront
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of tensions in this part
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of the world, hindi malayo na magkakaroon
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din ang foreign interference sa ating mga eleksyon.
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So these are the things that we're doing.
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Ano yung mga parameters na tinitinan nyo in terms of
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that proposed foreign interference act?
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Isa rin kasi sa mga madalas magbanggit
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yan, na kailangan daw yan
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si Commodore J. Tariella.
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Pero so far, ano yung mga tinitinan
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yung parameters dyan?
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Well, unang-una kasi, it's all about
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is all about transparency.
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Of course, yung batas,
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na kinakraft na namin ngayon
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government officials,
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public officials,
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from receiving foreign funding
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Okay? So, given that
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situation, tinitinan din yung
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batas na kailangan magpa-register
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The issue is transparency.
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So, if you are, for example, a
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lobbyist and you're receiving money
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from a foreign power,
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whether it is the United States,
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whether it is China, whether it is
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the UK, whether it is North Korea,
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or Syria, or whatever country,
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or Iran, you must register
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with government. Kasi kung hindi ka
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then that's prima facie evidence of some
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type of wrongdoing.
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So, pwedeng i-compel ng gobyerno na buksan
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yung books mo, pwedeng buksan
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ng unblock yung mga
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if you do not register.
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So, dun pa lang sa
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registration, nakita ng best practices
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abroad na makakatulong to
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for us to weed out
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Yung deterrence factor pa lang malaki na.
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Kaya nakita namin na kailangan din
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talaga sa ating bansa.
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Anong target nyo na maipasa ito?
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for instance before the 2025
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We hope, kasi nagsimula pa lang kami
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sa technical working group this year.
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Alam mo, Christian, all of these things
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are new. These things that we're
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doing now, lahat ito
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The threat from foreign interference,
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hindi naman natin yan na-realize.
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Na-realize lang na natin yan.
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when I joined the National Security Council
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in the middle of last year.
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Tati kasi, alam mo naman sa Pilipinas,
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everybody has their own opinion
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and we respect people's rights
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to express their views and opinions.
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So, ngayon pa lang natin ito binabalangkas.
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Kami rin yung nagpupush
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ng Maritime Zones Act
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papasa na, nag-buy camp na.
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Ang susunod yung archipelagic sea lanes,
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pumasa na rin ito sa House.
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Malapit na rin sa Senate
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kasi may special committee under Tolentino.
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Ang susunod naman namin itong
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a new law on foreign interference
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and an update to the Espionage Act.
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The things that we need to do
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to fortify our legislation
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against foreign interference.
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Ang kakaalama kung sino yung mga merong
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Pagdating ng deliberations.
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Maraming papalag dyan sa tingin ko.
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This will be a very controversial law
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but we have to recognize that
22:57.2
foreign interference is a
22:58.9
clear and present danger
23:00.3
to our national security.
23:03.1
Yung sinasabi nyo kanina na
23:04.3
cognitive warfare, no?
23:06.1
So far, do you think
23:07.0
sa monitoring nyo,
23:09.0
is that being effective
23:10.9
in terms of influencing
23:12.9
the Filipino mindset
23:15.0
toward what China is doing
23:16.3
sa West Philippine Sea
23:17.2
o limited lang yan doon
23:18.3
sa mga bayaran ng mga propagandista?
23:20.0
Well, we're very optimistic
23:21.8
kasi nakikita naman namin
23:23.4
yung result ng surveys.
23:24.7
May OCTA research survey
23:26.1
which showed that
23:26.9
the vast majority of the public,
23:30.2
support the Philippine position.
23:32.5
At the same time,
23:34.9
yung Freedom House
23:35.7
naglabas ng research study
23:38.6
which showed the Philippines
23:40.3
to Chinese disinformation.
23:45.9
Pero when you go to the ground, Christian,
23:47.8
iba yung maririnig mo eh.
23:49.5
Especially in areas, no?
23:53.1
Some parts of Bindanao,
23:54.7
some parts of the Visayas,
23:55.9
even here in Luzon.
23:56.9
So, makikita mo na
23:58.3
may mga, may ganong klaseng
24:01.1
ano eh, approach.
24:03.2
Kumbaga, nakumbinsi sila
24:05.1
na ang ginagawa natin
24:06.4
sa West Philippine Sea
24:07.5
is pakanalang ng US
24:09.6
at ang US ang nagkokontrol
24:13.0
And this kind of approach
24:14.8
wherein pumapayag tayo
24:16.1
maging papit ng US
24:17.3
is creating the conditions for war.
24:19.8
So, we should pull back
24:20.9
and disengage from the United States.
24:27.6
madaming naniniwala dyan.
24:29.3
So, it's important and critical
24:31.6
na palakasin din natin
24:33.6
yung civic education.
24:36.3
Get more people to discuss this issue.
24:38.7
Make them understand
24:39.7
na this is a issue
24:41.9
of significant national importance.
24:45.1
may-may nakausap ako
24:46.4
anong pakialam namin yun
24:47.3
sa West Philippine Sea?
24:48.3
Tagal ganito kami.
24:49.2
Malayo yung probinsya nila
24:50.5
sa West Philippine Sea.
24:53.4
And then, I told them
24:55.0
na ang West Philippine Sea,
24:56.8
isa yan ang pinagkukunin natin
25:02.2
hindi na makapangisda
25:03.1
ang mga Pilipino dyan,
25:04.3
that can lead to high prices.
25:06.4
In the same manner,
25:07.3
nung nagka-shortage tayo
25:08.3
ng sibuyas or onion,
25:10.5
nagtaasan yung presyo
25:11.8
ng sibuyas sa buong Pilipinas.
25:14.6
So, utilizing that same analogy,
25:17.6
hindi dahil wala ka sa
25:19.1
10 provinces facing
25:20.4
the West Philippine Sea,
25:21.4
wala ka ng pakialam.
25:22.4
This is a national issue
25:24.9
that everyone should be concerned about.
25:26.8
Nagdagang pa natin,
25:31.0
Darating yung panahon
25:31.7
na mauubos yung supply
25:33.3
galing sa Malampaya,
25:35.4
pero hindi natin ma-explore
25:36.5
yung sariling nating resources
25:37.8
sa ating Exclusive Economic Zone
25:39.3
dahil meron tayong kapitbahay
25:40.9
na makapalang muka
25:42.1
na pinipigilan tayo
25:43.3
from even exploring
25:45.8
or the possibility
25:51.5
nag-start na tayong
25:56.8
Sa West of Palawan,
25:58.9
medyo malapit-lapit lang ito
26:00.4
sa coastline ng Palawan
26:02.8
because the President
26:03.9
has already directed
26:07.2
of these oil fields,
26:08.6
na may mga reserves.
26:14.4
untapped potential
26:17.4
of the West Philippine Sea
26:19.7
for our energy security.
26:23.4
alam ko malaking issue yan
26:28.2
sa mga pinag-uusapan nyo
26:29.4
sa National Security Council
26:30.9
tsaka sa security cluster
26:33.3
how to deal with TikTok
26:36.6
or the possibility
26:38.3
a platform spreading
26:39.7
Chinese propaganda
26:43.6
I don't know, no?
26:44.8
Hindi mo na ko ganun kalalim
26:45.8
sa pagdududa ko sa TikTok
26:47.7
pero pinag-uusapan kasi yan
26:53.1
pinag-uusapan yan.
26:56.0
special committee
26:57.4
sa National Security Council.
26:59.5
Tapos na yung recommendations
27:00.7
ng committing ito.
27:04.0
It's actually on my desk.
27:08.7
to National Security Advisor
27:14.3
kasi our recommendation
27:16.4
is for the issuance
27:17.8
of a memorandum circular
27:20.8
government officials
27:23.0
about the use of TikTok.
27:25.5
ayoko lang pangunahan
27:32.4
Baka mapagalitan ako.
27:37.4
we have studied it
27:39.2
recommendations to him
27:41.4
some form of regulation
27:45.4
Pag pinagalitan ka pa,
27:46.7
pwede bang sabihin mo na lang?
27:47.7
Ang kulit ko kasi.
27:50.3
Maglabas ang memorandum circular
27:54.0
huwag magdownload
27:55.5
Yun ba yung tinutumbok niyan?
27:58.1
Kasi nung natanong ako nito
27:59.8
a few months back,
28:02.3
our recommendation was
28:03.7
for the security cluster.
28:07.5
So, yung ating mga kababayan
28:09.2
na nanonood ngayon
28:12.4
from the security cluster,
28:17.5
please don't worry,
28:18.3
we are not going to ban
28:22.8
And so far as the NSA is concerned,
28:26.1
the national security implications
28:28.2
for people who are working
28:29.8
in the security sector.
28:31.2
Like people in the military,
28:33.4
people in the police,
28:35.6
intelligence community,
28:38.8
who work in the NSC,
28:40.1
who work in the Coast Guard,
28:42.0
sila po yung nakikita namin
28:43.8
may vulnerabilities
28:45.1
to the use of TikTok.
28:47.0
Because as you said,
28:48.7
many, many countries in the world
28:50.3
have banned the use of TikTok
28:52.3
in government-issued phones.
28:56.3
for various reasons
28:58.5
from possible use
29:03.2
possible use for monitoring,
29:07.7
for disinformation
29:10.4
many of these countries
29:11.7
have come to the conclusion
29:15.8
national security threat
29:17.8
the security sector is concerned.
29:20.4
Pero napag-aralan ba
29:21.4
yung technical aspect niyan?
29:24.2
devil's advocate lang.
29:25.2
Baka naman overreacting tayo
29:26.9
China yung origin ng TikTok.
29:33.4
Napag-aralan namin.
29:35.6
Napag-aralan namin na matagal
29:37.5
kaya nga inabot din ang buwan
29:43.2
tapos na yung recommendation.
29:47.0
memo that I have to submit
29:51.1
by after Holy Week
29:54.9
mailabas na ng NSA
29:57.9
yung aming recommendations
30:01.7
kailan may implement dyan?
30:03.8
sa paggamit ng TikTok
30:05.4
by all government employees
30:08.5
Or dun lang sa security cluster?
30:14.1
the approval of Malacanang
30:23.6
take too much time
30:24.9
reviewing the MC.
30:29.0
this has to be reviewed
30:33.7
once we have submitted
30:35.8
our recommendations,
30:38.7
immediately issue this
30:40.3
and promulgate it.
30:42.3
At the last point,
30:45.8
and I really respect that.
30:48.6
Identified niyo naman
30:49.5
yung mga propagandista
30:51.2
Napaka-ingay naman nila.
30:54.9
Paano ba pinag-aaralan yan?
30:56.6
Tinitingnan nyo rin ba
30:57.4
kung baka naman may pumapasok
30:58.7
ng mga pera sa ano nila?
31:01.6
yung mga unexplained na
31:02.9
infusion of funds
31:04.9
coming from foreign sources
31:06.8
sa kanilang mga bank accounts.
31:10.5
tinitingnan ba yung mga ganyang bagay,
31:13.3
Ang problema nga sa kanila,
31:16.4
some months back,
31:18.6
we are monitoring them,
31:22.2
tinatag ko daw sila.
31:24.9
They wrote a letter
31:27.2
to Secretary Eduardo Año.
31:31.7
they protested what I said.
31:33.7
So sabi ko naman,
31:35.4
ang sabi ko naman,
31:36.9
is that's our job,
31:39.0
Hindi naman namin sinabing,
31:40.4
sinusurveillance namin kayo
31:42.1
ang dating sa kanila,
31:44.4
sinusurveillance ko daw sila.
31:47.5
hindi ko po trabaho
31:48.3
mag-surveillance sa inyo.
31:54.5
look at what you have said
31:57.4
and then nakita ko
31:59.6
is the same talking points
32:04.0
yung sinabi ng Beijing
32:06.3
ng Chinese Foreign Ministry
32:07.9
or the Chinese Coast Guard,
32:09.8
kaparehong-pareho
32:12.8
nung sinabi ko yan
32:16.7
at tinatag na ako
32:17.7
sa mga posts nila,
32:19.2
binabanatan ako sa Twitter,
32:23.8
I am just doing my job.
32:27.4
pinangalanan mo ba sila
32:28.5
o baka naman sila
32:29.2
nag-out sa sarili nila?
32:32.3
Wala nga akong sinabing
32:35.8
Wala akong sinabing
32:38.5
we are monitoring
32:39.6
these pro-China personalities.
32:42.4
hindi nila nagustuhan
32:43.2
yung word na monitor
32:44.1
because coming from
32:45.7
the National Security Council,
32:47.5
it's a threat to their
32:48.7
life and liberty daw.
32:53.8
posts where there are none.
32:57.0
Kaya nga sinabi ko,
32:58.6
kami ginagawa lang namin
32:59.6
ng trabaho namin.
33:03.5
eh natutulog kami
33:08.2
medyo natawa ako doon.
33:10.5
may isang DJ sa radyo.
33:11.8
Magandang araw po
33:13.3
tapos someone felt
33:16.7
Parang naging personal eh.
33:20.5
ng lahat ng mga pangit.
33:22.4
Ba't mukhang pinapersonal?
33:23.5
Parang gano'n yung dating eh.
33:30.9
na parang gano'n.
33:33.9
nag-a-out sa kanila.
33:40.5
for what they really are.
33:42.5
kung ako sa kanila,
33:43.4
pagalingan na lang tayo
33:45.7
Wala nang personalan.
33:47.2
Kasi kung sa feeling nyo,
33:52.0
ginagawa rin namin
33:54.1
at sa Coast Guard
33:55.1
at sa iba pang mga ahensya
33:56.2
ang aming trabaho.
33:57.3
And if we don't do that,
33:58.5
eh di ba't pa kami
34:02.5
Maraming salamat,
34:03.3
Assistant Director General
34:05.4
ng National Security
34:08.3
Makikibalita pa ako,
34:09.4
Especially dun sa
34:10.7
memorandum circular
34:15.6
Pero in the meantime,
34:18.0
dito sa Facts First.
34:20.1
Thank you for having me.
34:20.9
Nagustuhan nyo ba
34:24.1
ang ganitong pagtalakay?
34:26.8
Informador FB page
34:29.0
sa Informador YouTube channel.
34:33.9
ni Atty. Ricky Tomotorgo
34:37.0
upang lalong lumawak
34:39.1
ng pagpapalaganap
34:42.6
at kasinungalingan.
34:50.9
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