01:53.5
Okay. So, walang choice ng Kongreso kung di magpasa ng batas laban sa political dynasties.
02:00.0
Ang tunong po, hanggang kailan sila pwedeng magpabanjing-banjing?
02:06.7
Kasi more than 30 years na po, ano? Wala pong lumulusot na anti-political dynasty law sa Kongreso.
02:12.5
Well, to borrow your language, very colorful, pabanjing-banjing sila ng 37 years since the enactment of the 1987 Constitution.
02:22.5
At dapat niyan, right there and there, if they're doing their job and the duty that they're following the mandate of the Constitution,
02:30.0
dapat niyan, as early as after the enactment of the Constitution, gumawa na sila ng batas.
02:37.3
Diba? Dapat i-define na lang ang political dynasties up to now, after 37 years, they have not done so.
02:44.8
That's why we have this petition.
02:46.9
Pakie-explain nga po yung Mandamos petition niyo, no?
02:50.0
Ano ba yung nature niyan kung saan pwedeng i-compel ng hukuman ng isang ahensya ng gobyerno o sangay?
02:56.4
Pwede bang gamitin po yan sa Kongreso to do its job?
03:00.0
Pwede po yan because they're supposed to be doing their job, imperative, mandatory job.
03:05.7
If they're not, they have neglected performing their job under the Constitution, then they can be subject to a writ of Mandamos.
03:15.0
Hindi po ba, ano yan, pwedeng i-cite ng Kongreso?
03:19.3
Teka, co-equal bodies tayo dito.
03:21.8
Magkapantay tayo, kayo judiciary, kami legislature.
03:25.5
Sino kayo para sabihan kami kung anong dapat namin gawin?
03:30.0
Well, kung ganila lang ang reasoning nila, medyo malabnaw yata yan because the Constitution actually commands and orders them to enact a law along that line.
03:41.4
So the supreme document that should compel them is the Constitution itself, not the Supreme Court.
03:53.8
The Supreme Court will simply ask them to abide by the constitutional mandate.
04:00.0
E kung hindi po nila gawin?
04:02.4
Well, they'll be probably cited for contempt.
04:06.7
By the Supreme Court?
04:08.3
By the Supreme Court.
04:09.9
Okay. So technically, sino po respondents dito sa inyong petition? House Speaker at Senate President?
04:15.1
Opo, at saka Kongreso itself.
04:18.2
Okay. Can you walk us through the process?
04:20.9
So nag-file kayo ng petition and then magkocommentin po yung respondents and then what else? What will happen?
04:28.0
Then the court will probably call for...
04:30.0
for an oral argument at their discretion.
04:34.3
And perhaps we'll have to ask us what would be the issues and what our arguments?
04:39.2
And the Supreme Court, the honorable Supreme Court will decide accordingly.
04:42.8
Hopefully they will take cognizance and give us our petition due course because of its transcendental issue that we have posed and therefore the Supreme Court will
04:56.5
issue a judgment along that line.
04:58.6
And hopefully it will be...
04:59.8
and bank decision which is
05:01.5
doctrinal in nature.
05:03.9
Doctrinal. Pero pwede rin ba, siyempre,
05:06.3
dun sa realm of possibilities,
05:08.2
pwedeng ibalik yan. Iba to sa Kongreso.
05:09.9
Teka, labas kami dyan.
05:11.6
Let Congress make that decision
05:15.9
Pero kung gagawin natin dun,
05:17.8
anong remedy ng mga tao?
05:20.1
The sovereign people
05:21.0
who enacted and approved
05:23.6
the Constitution.
05:25.7
The supreme organ
05:29.8
Nakalagay yan sa state policy
05:31.9
natin. Yung section
05:33.7
26 is one of the 28
05:38.0
in that particular
05:42.2
And that is a mandatory.
05:44.7
Mandatory command
05:46.1
of the Constitution itself.
05:48.6
So hindi dapat babaliwalain
05:52.1
of the government there.
05:53.7
For example, the Supreme Court has
05:56.0
already issued mandatory or
05:58.0
writ of execution
05:59.2
against the executive
06:01.9
branch. Barami po tayong
06:03.9
na-encounter na ganyan.
06:05.3
Why can't the Supreme Court now
06:07.1
issue a writ of mandamus against
06:12.2
Commanding it to enact
06:13.8
a law as mandated and
06:15.7
as imperatively mandated
06:17.7
by the Constitution to enact
06:19.8
a law defining and prohibiting
06:22.1
political dynasties.
06:25.9
also, why did you decide,
06:27.9
you and your colleagues decided,
06:29.2
to file this petition at this time?
06:31.9
Ano yung nag-trigger?
06:32.9
Or ano ito? Talagang frustrated lang
06:35.1
kayo over the years?
06:37.5
Alam mo, Christian,
06:39.0
kaming mga magkakaklase,
06:44.7
And one of my classmates who is
06:49.6
ay nagsabi sa amin,
06:53.0
ito pa bang bulag pong
06:54.9
ang nagsabi pa sa amin,
06:55.9
si Atty. Wilfredo Trinidad.
07:01.0
na 37 years na na walang nangyayari
07:03.3
dito sa Section 26
07:04.9
implementation. Sabi niya,
07:06.9
why don't we come up with a petition
07:08.4
for a writ of mandamus?
07:12.1
Sabi namin mga magkakaklase,
07:16.6
sabi namin, oo nga,
07:19.4
malapit na tayo. We are already
07:21.0
at the last stage of our legal practice.
07:24.0
Hindi ba natin kailangan
07:24.9
utang natin sa mga kababayan natin,
07:27.3
sa future generations,
07:29.2
at sa ating mga anak?
07:30.8
Nagbigyan sila ng heritage
07:33.8
na dapat ay magkaroon ng batas
07:37.8
na dapat ay sumususog
07:39.8
sa constitutionally mandated
07:41.8
and imperatively mandated
07:45.8
i-prohibit ang political dynasties.
07:47.8
Alam na po naman natin kung bakit natin
07:49.8
pinaprohibit ang dynasties
07:51.8
na talakay na yan.
07:53.8
Sinabi mo nga kanina, meron ng studies
07:55.8
si Professor or Dr.
07:57.8
si Professor or Dr.
07:57.9
si Professor or Dr.
07:59.2
ng De La Salle and of course the
08:01.7
Ateneo School of Government.
08:03.7
Itong from fat to obese political
08:05.8
dynasties after the
08:07.4
2019 midterm elections.
08:10.5
They are all documented.
08:12.0
We have empirical data,
08:13.8
Christian, that show that
08:15.8
the political dynasties are the root
08:18.0
evil, the root cause
08:19.8
of the bad governance
08:22.3
as well as the underdevelopment
08:23.9
of the country. And we have not done
08:25.9
that to prohibit the political
08:29.2
And we have not done that since 1987.
08:31.2
In fact, the records of the
08:33.2
Commission, the Constitutional Commission
08:35.2
will show that's exactly what
08:37.2
is the need for our
08:39.2
country. That's why they inserted
08:41.2
that Section 26, included that
08:43.2
Section 26, Article 2
08:47.2
Oh nga eh no, konting background din po dito sa mga
08:49.2
viewers natin no. The last time I
08:51.2
interviewed one of the members of the 1986
08:53.7
Constitutional Commission, si Atty. Christian Monsud.
08:56.3
Naitanong ko rin po kasi yan, Sir no.
08:58.3
Bakit kasi hindi nyo pa ginawang self-executory yung provision na yan?
09:02.8
Bakit iniwan nyo pa yung desisyon sa Kongreso para i-define kung ano ba yung political dynasties
09:08.5
para ma-eban sila sa ating politika?
09:12.4
Ang sabi niya, well, they underestimated the greed for power of our politicians.
09:19.2
And true enough, talagang tumaba po ng tumaba yung mga dynasties.
09:23.1
Pati nga yung party system natin na hijack and na-bastardize nila.
09:27.0
Ang tanong ko po sa inyo, attorney, realistically,
09:31.0
paano makakapagpasa ng anti-political dynasty law ang isang Kongreso na infested,
09:40.0
for lack of a better word, infested by political dynasties?
09:44.1
Because if you think about it, that would be an existential threat to them.
09:50.7
Paano? Would be talagang malaking question mark yan.
09:54.7
For the past 37 years.
09:57.0
Hindi pa nila ginagawa yan.
09:58.8
But somehow, somebody has to compel them.
10:02.4
Because the Constitution is the supreme organ that should be followed.
10:07.1
And it says you should prohibit political dynasties.
10:10.4
Kung hindi tinutupad dyan ng Kongreso for whatever reason that you have just stated,
10:17.5
na hindi na puro self-serving yan, marami siyang public of interest sa mga Kongreso
10:21.5
because they're part of the political dynasties themselves,
10:24.6
most of them, if not all,
10:26.0
then ang tao na ang maguhusgat sa kanila.
10:30.4
Because the Constitution is the sovereign people's enactment.
10:36.9
Ang Constitution, ang sovereign people ang gumawa niyan, hindi ang Kongreso.
10:42.5
Sinasabi ng Constitution, dapat i-prohibit ang political dynasties, Christian.
10:48.2
Maliwanag na maliwanag na imperative at mandatory ang command ng Constitution.
10:53.9
At hindi dapat yun ay banal.
10:56.0
Pinabalik wala ng Kongreso.
10:59.4
Yung context po ng tanong ko, sir, I completely understand where you're coming from.
11:04.1
Napakalinaw po yan sa Constitution.
11:05.6
Pero realistically, for instance, although in fairness naman,
11:08.5
I think baka nga mas may pag-asa pa yung lumustad sa Senado kesa dito sa mababang kapulungan.
11:13.6
Pero that's just my gut feel.
11:15.2
Pwedeng mali po ako, no?
11:16.4
Kasi for instance, tingnan po natin yung composition ng Senado.
11:20.0
May mag-ina, Villar.
11:22.4
May magkapatid, Alan and Pia Cayetano.
11:26.0
Magkapatid na naman, Jinggoy and JV.
11:29.1
Dati nga nag-abot pa si Jinggoy at saka nanay niya, si Loy Ejercito.
11:33.2
Kung nanalo pa si Vice President Binay noong nakarang eleksyon,
11:36.8
I think he placed 13, edi nag-abot pa sila na si Binay.
11:41.1
I mean, for a 24-seat chamber, andami magkakamag-anak.
11:46.1
So dun pa lang po sa Senado yan.
11:47.6
E pupunta pa tayo sa House.
11:48.8
Yung Speaker mismo, di ba?
11:51.2
Belongs to a very fat dynasty.
11:54.4
Tapos yung mga Marcoses, nagugulong.
11:56.0
Grumpa na mga susunod sa kanila, for instance, di ba?
11:58.6
I mean, realistically po yung tanong ko.
12:01.0
I mean, aside from the legal, we know that's a very clear issue.
12:04.9
Pero realistically, do you think Congress would be, would it be in their interest to pass a law
12:11.7
that would go against the interests of the political dynasties?
12:17.3
Because they're answerable to their constituents.
12:20.6
Remember, they are representatives of the people of their respective territories.
12:26.0
That they are supposed to be a congressman of, a governor of, the palanggay of, the town of, or the city of.
12:33.6
So they are answerable to the people themselves.
12:35.9
That's why dapat, Christian, dapat we should heighten the awareness of the Filipino people, the electorates,
12:43.9
na ito ay evil, na nandito sa atin for 37 years or even before that.
12:48.8
That's why the Constitutional Commission put that, Section 26, Article 2,
12:54.5
dapat ng mga tao mamulat.
12:56.0
At sila ay mismo magsabi,
12:60.0
O, congressman, matagal na po kayo dyan.
13:03.6
Mayon, matagal na po kayo dyan.
13:05.2
Wala po ba namang marunong at qualified na mga ibang kandidato
13:11.0
so that we can change leadership and hopefully have a better leadership in the future.
13:15.9
And not people belonging to political dynasties
13:19.3
who are monopolizing political power and influence in their respective districts and territories.
13:26.9
We need to also tell the people,
13:30.0
kailangan na magkaroon ng spark flag dito
13:32.4
for the people to be able to realize that they are being shortchanged by the representative and districts
13:41.5
because it is in the interest of these political dynasties
13:45.0
to keep the people poor, right, Christian?
13:49.4
So that during the election time,
13:51.8
these poor people, their constituents who come to them
13:55.9
and resources from them.
13:58.7
And they want that to be perpetuated.
14:01.2
That condition to be perpetuated.
14:03.2
That's why we have these political dynasties.
14:06.3
There's no competition whatsoever.
14:08.3
Ang dami-dami magagaling ng mga kandidato.
14:11.3
Talo because wala silang pera,
14:13.5
wala silang influence,
14:14.7
at wala silang network.
14:16.7
That's exactly why Section 26, Article 2
14:19.6
was promulgated by the Commission in 1987.
14:25.9
Ang paliwanan niyo, Atty. Rico Domingo, no?
14:27.9
Yan po yung talagang root cause natin, no?
14:30.6
Nakadikit po sa political dynasties, sa mga viewers po natin,
14:33.7
yung issue ng political patronage, o yung tinatawag na clientelism, no?
14:37.9
Nararamdaman po natin yan, across levels of government, no?
14:40.6
Para bang yung Pilipino nakatanghod sa mga politiko
14:42.9
for resources na galing din naman sa kanila, no?
14:46.0
That's another issue.
14:48.4
Merong kayong katukayo.
14:50.2
Ay, hindi pala katukayo, sorry.
14:53.7
Pinapatanong po, no?
14:54.4
He was eagerly awaiting.
14:55.9
Your appearance dito po sa ating programa.
14:58.6
Si Atty. Michael Henry Ucinco.
15:00.7
Ando rin po siya, no?
15:01.9
Senior fellow dyan sa Ateneo Policy Center.
15:04.8
Interesting din yung tanong niya, no?
15:07.1
What if dumaan na lang
15:10.1
yung pag-enact ng isang batas against political dynasties
15:14.0
dito sa People's Initiative?
15:17.1
Baka mas realistic daw yun
15:18.5
kesa idaan sa pandamus.
15:23.9
That's an alternative.
15:29.8
in practical terms,
15:31.8
pwede yung People's Initiative naman eh.
15:33.8
Ginagalaw din mga political dynasties yun eh.
15:39.3
the design of the system
15:42.6
such that that will favor them.
15:45.4
So saan nating makikita yun?
15:49.9
ang Honorable Supreme Court will now
15:53.0
and issue the writ of mandamus.
15:55.9
Para makita ng tao,
15:57.9
merong nangyayari dito sa ating bansa
16:00.9
na tukusin natin ang political dynasties
16:03.9
that is mandated by the Constitution
16:07.9
imperatively to be enacted.
16:11.9
Dapat pressure yun natin
16:16.9
Kung pakita natin kung ano sino magbaboto
16:19.9
sa political dynasties law proposed bill
16:21.9
at anong nature ng definition ng political dynasties,
16:24.9
pakita natin kung ano sino magbaboto sa political dynasties law proposed bill at anong nature ng definition ng political dynasties.
16:25.9
Makikita natin sa mga tao
16:27.9
sino ang mga nagre-reject
16:30.9
ng proposal ngayon.
16:32.9
those who are part of the political dynasties
16:36.9
who would like to perpetuate themselves in power and influence.
16:40.9
Makikita ng tao yun.
16:41.9
Sa next electoral contest,
16:43.9
makikita ng mga tao,
16:45.9
ito ang mga political dynasties.
16:47.9
Ito ang ating tinutukoy dito.
16:49.9
Ito ang pinaprohibit ng saligang batas natin.
16:54.9
yung mga ganyang dynasties,
16:55.9
hindi naman sila nahihiya dyan.
16:57.9
Nagmamalaki pa nga.
16:58.9
Pinaparada ba ang susunod na mayor sa ating lungsod?
17:03.9
Alam na alam natin yan eh.
17:06.9
pinaperpetuating ang feudal system
17:08.9
na ating umiiral dati.
17:10.9
Feudalistic na ang sistema natin.
17:13.9
It's only a modern-day feudalism.
17:16.9
Kaya dapat puksuinan natin yan.
17:18.9
We are a democratic polity.
17:20.9
Dapat puksuinan natin yung political dynasties.
17:22.9
To avoid the feudal system
17:24.9
that we are experiencing right now.
17:26.9
At hindi lang yun.
17:28.9
Nakatuon din yan sa corruption.
17:33.9
Because kung ikaw ay kongreso,
17:35.9
siyempre meron ka mga allowances,
17:39.9
At kukuni mo yung pera niyan
17:42.9
para ma-elect ka ulit sa iyong term,
17:44.9
sa iyong respective territories.
17:47.9
So that will only permit corruption
17:50.9
of the electoral system as well.
17:53.9
Not to mention the corruption of actual
17:56.9
the actual budget disposition
18:00.9
ng mga congressmen at sa mga local government.
18:03.9
Kaya ngayon sabi natin,
18:05.9
bakit for example ang local government
18:08.9
unit elections are very violent?
18:13.9
Because the political dynasties
18:15.9
would like to perpetuate themselves in power
18:17.9
at makipagpapatayan sila
18:19.9
para they can maintain their monopoly
18:21.9
of the electoral process
18:23.9
as well as their leadership.
18:26.9
So itong mapasagod ko po sa inyo yung mga
18:28.9
rationalizations.
18:31.9
Hindi siya justification eh.
18:32.9
Rationalization na madalas ko po madinig sa mga
18:35.9
members ng political dynasties
18:37.9
na ako mismo nakakausap ko po.
18:39.9
For example, yung Arab dynasty.
18:42.9
Isa po yan sa mga longest running
18:45.9
and the biggest political dynasties
18:47.9
in the Philippines.
18:48.9
Nagsimula sa San Juan.
18:50.9
Tapos he tried to expand sa Manila.
18:52.9
Pero siyempre eventually natalo rin siya.
18:54.9
Mukha kasing medyo manipis na eh.
18:57.9
That was the story of the Arab of the Estradas in Manila.
19:01.9
Pag nakakausap po si Arab,
19:03.9
ang lagi niyang sinasabi,
19:04.9
eh teka, binoboto kami ng mga tao eh.
19:06.9
Hindi naman kami monarchy eh.
19:08.9
Hindi naman daw pinapamana technically.
19:10.9
Binoboto raw sila ng tao.
19:12.9
And this argument is not
19:14.9
just being used by the likes of Joseph Estrada.
19:18.9
Si Jingo Estrada,
19:19.9
pag pinanong nyo,
19:20.9
ganun din naman ang argument niya
19:21.9
and many other political clans and dynasties.
19:25.9
Ano ba yung tamang sagot doon?
19:27.9
Ano ba yung mali roon?
19:28.9
Kasi parang ginagamit din ng demokrasya
19:30.9
to justify the perpetuation to power
19:33.9
by members of these political clans.
19:35.9
Ano pong sagot nyo doon?
19:37.9
Ang sagot po natin dyan eh,
19:39.9
tinang naman natin,
19:40.9
you respect to Sen. Estrada,
19:42.9
he's the most man of conviction.
19:45.9
Kita mo naman ang ginawa niya,
19:47.9
na conviction ng Sandigan Bayan.
19:49.9
So in other words,
19:51.9
naitatago sa mga electorate,
19:55.9
mga maboboto ang kanilang layuning
20:00.9
because the electorates themselves
20:02.9
are not very well informed of exactly
20:04.9
what kind of people they are.
20:06.9
Because they have already the machinery,
20:08.9
they have the media,
20:10.9
which they are actually the environmental media,
20:14.9
and they have the influence and the network.
20:17.9
Hindi mananalo ang kalaban nila
20:20.9
kung talaga may political dynasties na yan.
20:22.9
Hindi mananalo sila kahit kailan.
20:24.9
So anong gusto natin?
20:25.9
We're gonna wait for another 37 years
20:28.9
for the Supreme Court to compel
20:30.9
Congress to pass the political dynasty prohibition?
20:34.9
Baka hindi naman yata natin gusto yan.
20:37.9
Okay. Isa pang madalas ko madinig sir,
20:40.9
eh huwag nyo lalahatin kasi meron namang
20:42.9
good dynasties at saka merong bad dynasties.
20:45.9
Marami naman daw, in fairness din naman, no?
20:46.9
May mga lugar sa Pilipinas na ang namumuno
20:49.9
ay political dynasties.
20:51.9
Ang madalas sa parasot po nila dyan,
20:53.9
kunwari lang ah, hindi naman kayo siyempre dynastia.
20:56.9
Example lang, Domingo, brand of public service.
21:00.9
Nakikita kayo sa mga probinsya eh, no?
21:02.9
Mula noon hanggang ngayon, di ba?
21:04.9
Yung ganyan, do you subscribe to it?
21:06.9
Do you buy that argument?
21:08.9
Hindi, meron namang mga good dynasties
21:10.9
and they also bring change and development
21:12.9
in areas in the Philippines.
21:14.9
Well, that's a good question.
21:16.9
That can be probably true with respect
21:18.9
to some more enlightened and more altruistic
21:23.9
political dynasties.
21:25.9
But again, why did the Commission enact
21:31.9
That means that there are empirical data
21:34.9
that will support that political dynasties
21:36.9
are not good for the governance of our country.
21:40.9
So kahit ano sabihin nila na they're more qualified
21:43.9
and therefore they're enlightened political dynasties,
21:45.9
at binoboto kami ng tao,
21:47.9
paano sila binoboto ng tao?
21:50.9
Sino bang, let's say, dalawang kalaban nila,
21:53.9
isa'y napakagaling at isa naman ay convicted
21:56.9
sa isang krimen, sinong ibaboto ng tao?
21:59.9
Siyempre, kung mulat ang matanda ng mga tao
22:03.9
ng electorates, ibaboto nila yung malinis,
22:06.9
na walang conviction, right?
22:10.9
So yun ang baboto nila because that would be a promise
22:13.9
that the leadership of that particular person
22:15.9
that they will vote on will be a good one
22:19.9
as compared to the one who had been convicted.
22:23.9
Okay. Tsaka ang problema po dyan, di ba?
22:25.9
Yung mga dynasties, eh kontrola din nila
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yung rules of the game, pati electoral system.
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Magkadikit yan kasi.
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Kunwari, the high cost of campaign
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or election spending, eh miski magaling ka
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pag wala kang pera, di ba po?
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Hindi ka naman napaka-slim ng chance
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ng kandidatong gano'n to actually win an election.
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Kung ang kalaban is political dynasties.
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Oo. Ang mechanism or machine ng mga political dynasties
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eh something very enviable.
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Hindi natin magtututukan na mapapantayan yan.
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Kung ordinary Juan de la Cruz na napakagaling
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ay lalaban sa political dynasties, eh wala siyang kalabang laban.
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Kaya dapat eh magkaroon ng pagbabago sa electoral system natin.
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And that will be, part of this would be
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to reform the electoral system by abolishing,
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prohibiting the political dynasties
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which is required by the Constitution nonetheless
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na hindi pa natin ginagamit since 37 years ago.
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Ito pala sir, paano kung idaan naman na ito
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ng ating magagaling na congressmen o members ng Senate
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sa isang charter change o kaya constituent assembly?
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O James, sige gusto niyo i-define namin yung political dynasties
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saka mag-pass kami ng anti-political dynasty law.
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Eh isabay na natin sa political chacha hindi lang economic chacha
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which we all know can open a Pandora's box.
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Paano kung ganun po yung mangyari?
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Yan ang pwedeng gawin nilang gambit, Christian.
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Pwedeng nilang sabihin kasama naman ng people's initiative
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or amendment ng Constitution.
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But I think makikita naman ng tao ang kanilang ginagawa.
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So probably the people who would be enacting
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or be faced with the referendum will reject that kind of initiative.
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Isa pa pala sir, before I forget,
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one of the arguments I usually hear from members of political clans,
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sinasabi nila eh undemocratic yan eh pag binan yung political dynasty.
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Kunwari, very qualified naman yung anak, yung pamangkin o yung pinsan,
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eh bakit nyo pipigilang magservisyo sa tao?
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Kunwari, edukado naman.
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O mataas yung pinag-aralan.
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Ano po ba ang sagot doon?
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Eh tinan natin ang kalaban nila.
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Ang ginagawa nila eh, there is stifling competition eh.
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Political dynasty is pinag-echofera nila yung kalaban nila eh.
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Tinan natin mabuti eh.
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Then the people will elect freely and choose themselves.
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That's why the section 26 state policy says
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to guarantee the people's ability to choose their own candidates.
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Yan ang pinapangalagaan ng section 26.
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Because kung ang political dynasties na nandiyan, hindi na free ang choice nila.
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Diba? Hindi na free. Hindi na free. Hindi na malawak ang kanilang...
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They are constricting the pool of candidates who are qualified.
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Kung kinonstrict mo ang pool of candidates,
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number of candidates na lalaban doon sa political dynasties, eh walang kalaban talaga yung ibang pang...
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I think we can even ask, I'm sure if there is a survey,
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maraming mga magagaling na Filipino.
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In fact, maraming nag-text sa akin na Christian.
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Sabi nila, tama po ang ginagawa nyo.
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Kasi dito sa aming probinsya, wala nang nangyayari.
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Eh puro mga abogado yun.
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Puro mga professionals yun.
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Hindi kami namanalo. Sabi nila, hindi po kami mananalo dyan.
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Kasi malakyo ang makinaryo ng political dynasties.
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I sabi ko, di gumawa kayo ng manifesto para mai-support ang aming ginagawa.
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Magtulong-tulungan tayo.
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That the people be more aware of what's happening.
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And we have been sleeping for 37 years, Christian.
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Hindi natin sinusukoy itong political dynasties.
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And I think this should be a spark plug for the nation to have
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and to rally around this petition.
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Para tayo ay magkasama-sama.
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Pag nakita ng Supreme Court na tayo magkakasama at kailangan natin ng batas along that line,
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then perhaps makikinig ang Supreme Court.
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Because that is their duty to also implement the Constitution,
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particularly in this particular respect, the Section 26, Article 2.
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Bilang panghuli, attorney, tanungin ko na rin po kayo.
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Kung kayo yung magkakraft ng batas na ito, ano ba dapat yung degree of affinity and consanguinity na maganda
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na makover ng isang anti-political dynasty ban?
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Sinasabi na ba second degree? Iba up to third degree?
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Sa inyo po ba? Anong tingin niyo?
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Sa akin, hindi ko pa masyadong masusi kong na-analyze yan.
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Kasi that actually, Christian, that is on the discretion of the Congress.
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We don't want to tell the Supreme Court, to tell the Congress to define what they want to do.
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Because that's discretionary sa Congress.
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What is imperative and mandatory would be the passage of the anti-political dynasty bill or law.
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Pero kung ako ang iisipin mo, kung ako ang tatanungin mo,
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as wider as possible that we can have.
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So that we can really remove the vestiges of the political dynasties, Christian.
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Makikita naman natin dyan eh.
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Pati ng asawa, kahit nakabit ng mga congressmen, eh nagigiging kasama sa political dynasties, right?
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Kahit na kung saan, kung layo-layo na ang kanilang agwat sa political dynasty, pumapasok pa rin doon because
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meron silang agwatan or may connections sa political dynasties.
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Dapat eh ating ma-anticipate yun.
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Kasi magagaling ang ating mga mababatas na paikutan ang the value and the intent of the constitutional provision against political dynasties.
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Kaya dapat tayo eh bihilante.
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We should be vigilant.
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If they propose a bill and we don't like it because that would only circumvent the prohibition against the political dynasties under section 2.2.3.3.
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26, which is mandatorily mandated by the constitution.
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Tayong mga tao ang dapat lumalabas sa sinasabi, oh eh niloloko niyo naman kami.
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Huwag naman ganyan.
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Kasi that is actually in contravention of the essence and the objective of the constitutional provision on that.
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So hindi natin papayagan yan.
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Kaya nga tayo meron ano eh.
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Meron tayong Christian.
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Ako eh natutuwa sa iyo.
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Napakabata mo pa.
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Marami ka nang nararating sa ating journalism at ating pagpapalawak ng kaalaman ng mga tao.
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Sana eh ituloy natin yan at sana eh mas maraming taong kagaya mo Christian.
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I'm not saying yes because I want to applaud you personally but I think we need to have a snowballing support for that kind of initiative.
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At implementsan natin ang ating mga kababayan.
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Kailangan natin ito Christian.
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Para ito sa mga bata.
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Sa mga anak natin.
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Sa future generations.
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Para maputol na ang vestiges ng political dynasties sa ating electoral system at ating gobyerno.
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Nakakatabuhan ng puso yung sinabi niyo.
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Pero talagang yung political dynasties po kasi.
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Isa po ito sa mga matagal ko na po tinututukan ng issues.
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Dahil talaga naman napakagarapal ng mga political dynasties.
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At kadikit po dyan yung tinatawag na clientelism o yung political patronage.
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Meron pa nga yan.
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Yung rent seeking.
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Tsaka yung mga regulatory capture.
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Yan po yung mga madalas nating pinapaliwanag.
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Kanina natawa ako nung binanggit niyo pati yung kabit.
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Kasi totoo pong nangyayari yan.
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Nga pala legally.
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Paano ba ikakategorize siya?
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Diba sa batas kailangan ng categorization or differentiation.
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Kasi napaka creative ng ating mga politiko.
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Basically creative for all the wrong reasons.
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Baka sabihin nila.
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Paano naging dynasty?
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Kabit ko nga yan.
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Hindi nga minsan nakaaminan.
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Wala kaming relations whatsoever.
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So I can't imagine for now what kind of law would be able to cover that.
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Palagay ko kailangan ng creative mind ng mga professionals who are in this kind of business.
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Kailangan makikita natin.
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Kasi kung kabit lang yun, legally hindi pwede.
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Pero kung let's say ang kanyang influence sa kabit niya ay malawak din.
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Siguro titinan natin ang background ng kabit.
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Kung ang kabit ay talagang naka-angkla sa political dynasty.
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Siguro sasabihin natin pati yung kabit dapat hindi kasali.
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So it has to be more creative and more forward-looking Christian.
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Hindi maaari tayong liiitan natin ating mga paningin natin eh.
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We'll anticipate what the political dynasties have been doing since 37 years.
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Dapat anticipate natin yun at i-flag natin ng loopholes para hindi na sila makalusot.
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Nakakalusot sila ng 37 years eh, Christian. Even before that.
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Gusto nilang i-perpetuate itong system na ito para sa kanilang kapakanan.
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At sa interest nila at hindi interest ng ating mga kababayan.
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Okay. Maraming salamat Atty. Rico Domingo. At least you filed a very important petition sa Supreme Court.
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Kahit kung dito sa mga viewers natin, sana nasundan niyo po yung binabanggit ni Atty.
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Importante dyan yung vigilance ng public. Kasi minsan may pag-aasa pa rin kahit napakagarapal na ating mga legislators.
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Basta meron tamang push from the people. Just like during the pork barrel issue.
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Miski administration ng time na yun gusto naman yung pork barrel eh.
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Pero eventually, they were forced to give it up. Although nandun pa rin naman yung pork barrel ngayon.
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Medyo tayo natutulog tayo Christian. I'm sorry to say. Medyo natutulog tayo ng 37 years eh. Hindi natin binubulaga ang mga liderato natin.
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Eh dapat eh maano na tayo, mag-enforceful na tayo sa ating adikain.
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Sabihin natin ang hirap sa ating mga Pilipino, with your respect to our countrymen, eh apathetic sila eh. Hindi sila naninindigan eh. Manindigan tayo.
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Siguraduhin natin na ang gusto natin mangyari.
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Sa ating mga mga mababatas. Ito, huwag tayong patumpik-tumpik pa.
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Dapat sabihin natin sa kanila, mag-pass kayo ng anti-dynasty bill and law. Gusto namin yan.
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Kami ang bumabota sa inyo. Gusto namin yan. Pag narinig nila yan, matatakot din yan eh.
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Dapat. Manindigan tayo. Huwag tayong papayag na gagawin nila ang dapat nilang gawin.
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Dapat ang tao mismo, ang people power, eh dapat umiiral na naman ngayon.
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