02:12.4
Yung paborito mong presidente ng Indonesia, diba?
02:16.2
Very populist yung kanya po and using Tito.
02:20.3
Pabawo, diba? Pero napaka-powerful nung framework na quick fix, diba? Yun yung Tulfo brand eh. Quick fix.
02:32.9
Tatawagan nila yung police, tatawagan nila yung asawa, tatawagan nila yung government official in real time.
02:41.1
At kahit hindi ganung kalaki yung natulungan nila, ang tingin ng buong bansa ay,
02:46.2
matutulungan sila. Kaya yung ipapatulpo kita, isumbong ka tulpo, has become a household brand, diba?
02:56.3
Kahit saan, pinag-uusapan yan eh. Pinag-uusapan yan, no?
03:00.2
Kumbaga, yung The Punisher brand ni Tigoong sa Davao ay naging national brand, diba?
03:06.6
At nakakuha siya ng appeal, lalo na sa mga overseas Pilipinos na kinakambahan dun sa kanilang mga pamilya rito because of high crime rates.
03:16.2
pagkamat iba yung narrative,
03:18.3
nandoon sila pareho doon sa populist spectrum, no?
03:22.9
Kaya makikita mo in the future,
03:25.5
yan yung nagdo-dominate, no?
03:31.3
but to Dalarosa, populist naman siya, no?
03:33.9
Marami naman mga tumatakpo na medyo may antics-antics.
03:37.0
Bakit yung itong The Tulfo brand ay pinaka-tatak dito?
03:41.6
I mean, Ronald, would it be even controversial to say na,
03:45.7
nauna pa si Tigoong sa mga Tulfos in national politics, right?
03:50.1
Because if you think about it,
03:51.7
mas sikat ang mga Tulfos before kay Tigoong, diba?
03:54.6
If you ask anyone in 2014, 2015,
03:58.3
mas si Montolfo ang isipin mo may chance sa national office than someone like Tigoong, right?
04:03.8
So, the appetite was already there, yeah.
04:06.9
The gaze was there.
04:08.3
Ang tumakbo lang kasi si Senator Rafi Tulfo, no?
04:12.4
At kung ano siya, bago siyang senador.
04:15.7
na siya, all over the place, no?
04:17.8
Bago siyang senador, less than two years,
04:20.2
pero nagmamarka siya,
04:21.9
umaangat siya sa presidential.
04:23.6
Nalampasan na niya yung lone leader, si Sara.
04:27.8
In less than a few months, diba?
04:31.6
Yun yung nangyayari, no?
04:33.4
At siguro, yung difference sa populist brand ng Digo, ng Duterte, at saka ng Tulfo,
04:39.9
eh hindi violent yung Tulfo.
04:42.4
Quick fix, pero hindi sila na-identify sa libo-libo.
04:45.7
Hindi sila na-identify sa libo-libong extrajudicial killings.
04:47.1
At pumura sila, pero walang...
04:50.6
At saka magaling yung performative politics ni Senator Rafi Tulfo, no?
04:55.2
Yung kanyang main advocacy sa Senate kasi, land use.
04:59.3
So sino yung kontrabida sa land use?
05:01.3
Yung mga billiards, diba?
05:03.4
Yung mga billiards, which some people love to hate, no?
05:06.7
Ikalawa, yung DepEd.
05:10.4
DepEd, indirect na tama kay Vice President, no?
05:13.5
Nung kinakatay niya.
05:15.5
Si Senator Pia Cayetano.
05:17.2
Yung pinapalabas niya yung lahat ng mga papel, lahat ng mga reklamo, diba?
05:21.8
Di mo alam kung may laman nga yung papel.
05:25.2
Pero ang galing nung performance, diba?
05:27.5
Tapos yung Lotto.
05:29.9
Yung Lotto, na very popular sa mga may hirap.
05:33.9
Sa D, na parang ito na lang nga yung path sa mga may hirap
05:38.4
para quick fix or rags to riches,
05:42.6
eh minamanipulate pa.
05:44.8
Tapos panghuling,
05:45.5
itong bagpalat niya sa mga pulis
05:47.9
doon sa committee ni Bato.
05:49.3
Nag-walkout pa siya kay Bato.
05:50.8
Minu-huling niya at nag-walkout siya.
05:52.5
Galit na galit si Bato.
05:53.5
Pero ang beneficiary diyan,
05:55.0
si Senator Rafi Tulpo.
05:56.4
So, magaling din yung kanyang performative politics, no?
05:59.8
In reference doon sa kanilang brand.
06:02.5
So, yung brand nila,
06:03.4
Patronal, is it fair to just say it's performative?
06:07.3
Kasi performative means puro lang papogi,
06:10.6
pero palang substan.
06:12.9
hindi ka naman executive, eh.
06:15.5
Wala ka naman gagawing mga programa,
06:18.2
wala ka naman departamentong hawak, di ba?
06:20.5
May kaunti ka siguro mga budget,
06:22.8
pero kaya mas dominant sa Sen.
06:24.9
Yung performative politics,
06:29.8
Now, speaking of Rafi Tulpo,
06:31.8
obviously, he's the man of the hour.
06:35.1
Both of us knew from other surveys
06:37.0
na he was already leading over Sara Duterte.
06:39.3
Here, he's ahead of Sara,
06:41.1
but more or less statistically tied.
06:42.5
But the trajectory, as you correctly pointed out,
06:45.5
Barely above 15% the other year.
06:48.1
Now, he's at 35%, right?
06:50.8
That's a huge jump.
06:52.8
And sa NCR, he's at 41% in NCR.
06:56.2
So, ang lakas niya sa Imperial Manila, right?
06:59.4
Valens Luzon, he's 37%.
07:01.9
Visayas, he's 46%.
07:04.5
So, ang lakas lang dating sa Visayas.
07:08.0
Dapat bailing with Sara ng Visayas, di ba?
07:10.7
Pero more than double ang lampas sa kanya ni Tulpo, no?
07:14.2
Dapat kabahayin siya.
07:15.1
Bailing with siya yan, eh.
07:17.0
And interestingly,
07:18.3
malakas siya sa ABC at 36%,
07:20.8
well ahead of everyone else.
07:22.4
And malakas siya lalos sa E.
07:24.6
Mga pinakamahirap natin, mga kaubayan.
07:26.3
So, clearly, you can see the Tulpo brand of justice,
07:29.0
the quick fix, the vigilante approach.
07:31.2
This is something that appeals to the poorest of poor people.
07:32.9
Sa D, statistically tied sila ni Sara.
07:35.7
Yes, more or less.
07:36.8
Sa poor of the poor, talagang umalagwa siya.
07:40.5
But then again, Ronald, this is where we see.
07:42.8
If you look at Sara, her number in NCR,
07:45.1
is not even close.
07:46.3
She's only at 26%.
07:47.7
Balance Luzon, 23%.
07:50.4
Visayas, she's even lower at 20%.
07:54.0
It's again Mindanao that pushes up her number at 72%.
07:57.4
So, you could see,
07:58.7
it's really just Mindanao holding her competitive in this race.
08:01.8
But she's extremely vulnerable in Visayas, in Balance Luzon.
08:04.7
Pero kung may makukuha si Tulpo,
08:07.4
kung tumutuloy siya as president,
08:08.7
kung may makukuha siya na tika Bindalao,
08:13.0
Oo, as running mate.
08:16.6
Ano yung, kung kukunin ni Vice President Sara
08:20.0
as running mate si Robin Padilla,
08:21.8
kung titignan mo yung numbers ni Robin Padilla
08:23.5
dito sa Vice Presidential Survey,
08:25.6
wala siya masyadong value-added kay Sara.
08:28.3
Actually, I was very surprised.
08:29.2
Wala siya masyadong value-added.
08:30.4
Kumaga, yung kay Robin Padilla,
08:34.1
Naki-Sara na yun.
08:34.9
Parang overlap lang sila.
08:36.9
So, he's just an extension of Sara.
08:38.7
Wala siyang sariling added value.
08:40.0
You're absolutely correct about that.
08:42.4
Lenny is still there at number three.
08:44.7
And interestingly,
08:45.7
Lenny is statistically tied with Sara in Visayas,
08:50.0
And she's still doing pretty decently.
08:53.0
I mean, in the sense that she's,
08:54.1
I mean, still far away from the others.
08:56.6
But mukhang solid pa rin si Lenny at number 11.
08:59.1
Hindi yan insignificant, Big R, no?
09:03.4
Galing ka sa pagkatalo, eh.
09:05.2
Galing ka sa pagkatalo.
09:06.8
Tapos nag-a-announce ka
09:07.9
na hindi ka tatakbo for national office,
09:09.9
magpa-focus ka na lang sa NAGA,
09:15.6
Dahil nagpahinga ka,
09:17.5
nagbiyahi ka, etc.
09:18.8
Pero meron ko pa rin 11%.
09:20.5
That could be the solid pink.
09:22.9
That could be the solid pink.
09:24.5
At kung maghahanda siya
09:27.0
i-recommend na successor,
09:30.5
kung maghahanda siya,
09:31.8
mas mahaba yung panahon,
09:33.0
unlike yung 2022 election,
09:35.4
na nag-decision siya tumakbo
09:37.8
on the day of the filing.
09:40.3
hindi ko sasabihin na insignificant
09:48.0
Especially if magsama-samang
09:49.5
opposition and all,
09:50.8
Riza, Lenny, whatever,
09:51.6
it goes, it rally behind
09:53.7
then they could be
09:54.5
kind of a third force.
09:55.7
Because I'm sure a lot of people here,
09:57.2
Amy, Robin, Hood, Padilla,
09:58.9
I'm not sure if they're really
09:59.9
gonna run down the road.
10:01.1
But aren't you surprised also
10:02.3
with the vice-presidential situation?
10:04.9
Or perhaps we shouldn't be surprised,
10:06.8
Grace Poe is in a very good position
10:09.4
to become the next vice-president,
10:11.9
assuming she can maintain
10:14.3
Kasi patapos na yung term niya
10:16.2
So the question is what she will do
10:17.6
from 2025 to 2027
10:20.4
until the campaign starts for her to be.
10:23.2
Are you surprised?
10:24.1
Kasi ang alam ko,
10:26.1
she was being considered
10:27.5
as vice-presidential candidate
10:29.1
by at least one or two persons
10:30.8
I knew in last race.
10:32.8
Pero hindi na daw siya tumakbo
10:33.9
dahil tumakbo si Tito Soto
10:35.7
because, you know,
10:36.3
they're family and whatever.
10:37.7
But my sense also is that
10:38.7
perhaps she was not as competitive
10:40.5
because they're Sarah.
10:42.0
But in the next cycle,
10:44.1
Grace Poe may have her second shot
10:46.2
at the top offices of the land.
10:48.5
That's uninteresting
10:49.2
because Grace Poe also represents
10:50.4
another form of populism, right?
10:51.9
The kind of FPJ kind of populism.
10:55.7
Hindi ako surprised
10:56.6
dahil nga yung pinag-uusapan natin
10:59.1
populist spectrum
11:00.2
ay nandun din yung FPJ brand.
11:03.9
Yung vigilante culture natin.
11:10.7
Or actually more like messianic.
11:14.1
Kasi hindi naman vigilante si FPJ.
11:16.2
In fairness naman,
11:16.8
he was a great guy.
11:17.6
God bless his soul, right?
11:19.8
At least yung mga movies niya.
11:21.5
Yung mga movies niya
11:22.4
is also out of the box.
11:23.7
Yes, mag-alpha may Eleonora.
11:26.0
Sabi mo nga, messianic.
11:28.1
ay nag-rub on pa rin
11:33.9
meron namang deliverable si Grace Poe
11:35.8
nung siya ay naging senador.
11:38.5
ang dominant pa rin
11:40.6
pag iniisip ng mga tao si Grace Poe,
11:42.5
ang naiisip nila si FPJ.
11:46.1
within the populist spectrum.
11:50.7
Let's talk about Grace Poe
11:52.0
because this is an
11:52.8
interesting situation, right?
11:57.2
siya yung naging betanwa
12:03.1
Everyone is blaming her
12:04.3
among those people,
12:06.3
Na siya yung dahilan
12:07.0
na nalalo si Digong
12:10.6
I don't know if you agree with me, Ronald.
12:12.2
Let's talk about this
12:12.8
kasi we haven't talked about it
12:14.4
So, I'm glad that we can talk about
12:16.3
because we assume
12:18.6
she's not a factor
12:20.1
she can be once again a factor.
12:21.7
And she's way ahead.
12:24.7
for vice presidency.
12:26.5
The second one is
12:30.4
it's not even close.
12:31.0
And then the others are like 14%.
12:34.2
Robin Padilla is even very weak
12:35.9
also as vice president.
12:39.5
if she just doesn't do anything stupid,
12:42.5
she would be in a very,
12:43.7
very advantageous position.
12:45.9
It's just a question of
12:47.3
as her presidential mate.
12:49.5
Rafi Tulfo and Grace Poe.
12:51.1
that would be also
12:51.7
very interesting setup.
12:53.2
So, let's talk about Grace Poe a bit.
12:54.9
Before we talk about
13:00.4
kung hindi nagkalat si Binay
13:02.5
dun sa mga debates,
13:06.6
because he was already
13:07.5
number one by January.
13:10.1
after yung mga debates,
13:13.7
if I were his team,
13:15.6
Sir, wag mo nang patulan.
13:16.7
Gawin mo yung ginawa
13:17.3
ng unit team last elections.
13:19.0
Gawa ka ng sarili mong
13:19.9
seminar debates, whatever.
13:21.3
Or don't just do anything
13:24.3
I disagree with that
13:25.9
but that would be strategy
13:27.2
kasi mahirapan talaga
13:28.2
siya i-defend yung mga,
13:29.8
yung mga controversy back then.
13:31.9
the biggest factor
13:32.5
why nanalo si Digong
13:37.4
because Binay was
13:40.1
of Philippine politics.
13:42.1
ganito kami sa Makati,
13:43.4
gusto ko maging ganit.
13:44.6
how can you even beat that?
13:46.8
we know the facts of
13:48.7
but in terms of messaging,
13:51.3
ang ganda nung brand
13:52.9
in every sense of the word.
13:54.0
The infrastructure,
13:55.5
the ILG infrastructure,
13:56.8
everything he had
13:57.3
during the time of Pinoy.
14:01.2
is interesting to me
14:05.0
that the questioning
14:05.6
of her citizenship
14:07.4
because temporarily
14:08.4
tinanggal siya sa balot
14:15.8
for all of the good things
14:16.9
I've said about Maro
14:18.4
let's also be very realistic
14:20.9
first and second preference,
14:23.4
graceful would have been
14:24.2
a majority candidate,
14:26.8
number three siya
14:28.3
as first preference,
14:29.8
pero pag sinama yung
14:30.6
second preference
14:32.0
actually graceful
14:32.9
in a run of elections
14:35.1
She would have been
14:35.6
the president of the Philippines
14:36.5
kasi even if bumaba siya
14:38.2
as number one preference,
14:39.6
halos lahat ng ibang candidates
14:40.8
number two preference
14:41.7
sila si graceful eh.
14:42.6
Ito yung nakita ko.
14:42.9
Ito yung nakita ko.
14:43.0
Ito yung nakita ko
14:43.1
sa paulisasyon nun.
14:44.7
But the thing is,
14:46.9
and Digong winning and all,
14:49.1
Maro has just disappeared.
14:50.8
And then graceful
14:51.6
became the kind of
14:57.3
eto kasing itong babae na to,
15:02.0
parang na-cancel siya.
15:03.0
If I can put it that way,
15:05.1
And the thing with graceful,
15:07.5
from my understanding
15:10.3
there's the Poe name,
15:11.2
there's the FBJ branding.
15:12.5
But if you look at
15:13.2
graceful herself,
15:16.2
Democrat president.
15:17.9
a candidate, right?
15:23.7
pragmatic, of course,
15:28.0
a centrist Democrat,
15:30.2
of the Philippines, right?
15:35.1
or should she become
15:35.9
the president in the future,
15:36.9
I think she would do
15:37.9
a lot of good standard policies
15:40.6
what we're even getting
15:45.9
what is your read
15:46.9
Grace Poe episode?
15:49.0
she may have a second shot
15:50.3
at the highest offices.
16:12.9
may sakit na noon, eh.
16:19.9
could have done better
16:24.0
ay tama yung sabi mo,
16:26.3
May mga variables
16:33.2
on corruption charges,
16:35.8
two years yan, eh.
16:38.1
Senate hearing yan, eh.
16:41.7
Na-mishandle niya
16:47.7
nung ganong klaseng
16:53.1
kanyang citizenship,
16:54.9
muntik na siya matalo
16:55.8
sa Senate Electoral Tribunal,
17:02.2
sa Supreme Court.
17:05.0
yung span of time
17:07.9
kung siya ay pwedeng tumakbo,
17:09.7
cost her something, no?
17:13.8
yung kanyang narrative
17:14.7
na wala during the campaign, eh.
17:16.8
Yung kanyang narrative
17:19.4
ampunin si Grace Poe.
17:25.3
ng mga iba niyang kalaban,
17:29.0
para umangat siya, eh.
17:30.2
Pero, during the campaign,
17:31.9
especially during the debates,
17:34.6
a traditional politician.
17:37.0
Kung makikita mo.
17:38.6
Nawala yung kanyang
17:44.0
Na sympathy sa ampun,
17:45.6
tapos dagdag yung FPJ
17:46.9
during the debate.
17:51.8
She did very well
17:52.3
during the debates.
17:53.0
I think she was the best
17:56.5
pero ang hinahanap ng tao
17:58.7
is a disruptor, eh.
18:01.7
Yung hinahanap nila
18:05.2
Siya naging cognitive siya, eh.
18:07.1
Nung debate, diba?
18:08.2
Okay, let's be honest.
18:10.4
the cognitive was the problem.
18:11.8
I think the problem
18:14.5
I mean, let's be honest.
18:15.7
Eskudera's collapse
18:17.2
in terms of knowledge.
18:18.4
Nakabawa sa kanya yun.
18:19.9
purong nagpakit lang siya.
18:21.4
Wala, wala siyang
18:22.7
Pero yung pinakamahalaga,
18:24.2
In-underestimate nila
18:27.6
In-underestimate nila.
18:28.9
Una, yung narrative
18:30.1
hindi siya tatakbo
18:30.9
habang nagbibuild na siya
18:34.7
Kinuwento ko yan, eh.
18:48.0
before the election.
18:49.6
Dumating si Digong,
18:50.6
dumating si Bongo,
18:56.5
at saka si Lillian Briones
19:00.7
Habang in public,
19:02.9
hindi siya tatakbo.
19:04.5
Nireport ko yan, eh.
19:07.0
Huwag kayong maniwalang
19:11.2
Pero ina-underestimate nila.
19:14.1
ay makakatulong siya
19:23.7
ay yung substitution.
19:26.1
hindi siya nag-file, eh,
19:28.8
Si Dino yung nag-file.
19:32.3
ganun din yung sabi ko
19:36.3
walang naniwala, eh.
19:37.5
Walang naniwala, eh.
19:41.6
dahil yung kanyang
19:44.6
Ang hindi nila tinignan
19:46.5
na pinag-uusapan natin,
19:48.2
hindi nila tinignan
19:48.9
yung movement of numbers.
19:51.0
Hindi nila tinignan.
19:51.6
And also the sentiment
19:52.3
that there's a lot of
19:56.8
nag-enrage politics, eh.
19:59.3
At saka hindi nila tinignan
20:00.6
yung mga mobilization,
20:02.4
yung mga rallies ni Digong,
20:05.4
Talagang hindi hakot.
20:09.9
Yung kanyang authenticity,
20:12.0
yung kanyang spontaneity,
20:14.8
Yung kanyang pagmumura
20:18.8
para sa maraming mga tao,
20:21.3
especially the overseas
20:24.1
yun yung ikatlong factor.
20:26.4
In-underestimate nila lahat.
20:32.0
Digong did a trumpet.
20:41.2
hindi yan Pilipino.
21:00.3
Habang doon sa iba,
21:01.0
very critical siya.
21:04.8
Yun ang nagmarka.
21:06.3
Yun ang nagmarka.
21:08.7
audience impact niya
21:09.7
was definitely there.
21:10.7
Tsaka yung inaasar niya,
21:12.1
pangatlong ano mo na yan.
21:18.6
hindi naman si Grace
21:25.0
na in-underestimate,
21:26.9
na naging spontaneous
21:28.8
at saka authentic,
21:30.7
talagang lahat sila
21:33.9
or because yung tatlo,
21:35.7
nagpatayan yung tatlo,
21:36.9
he just came from behind,
21:38.6
Prince Paul versus Mar.
21:39.7
Dahil na in-underestimate nila eh.
21:41.8
In-underestimate nila.
21:43.6
silang tatlong makakalaban.
21:47.6
hindi nila na-monitor,
21:48.9
pataas na ng pataas
21:52.3
Paganda na ng paganda
21:53.3
yung mga mobilizations.
21:57.1
medyo naka-perfect storm
22:02.3
Kaya hindi ko i-blame,
22:03.6
hindi ko i-blame yung iba
22:04.7
sa pagkatalo nila.
22:08.7
because of the Digong
22:11.8
The Digong ecology.
22:18.4
there was a lot of problem
22:19.2
on the side of Binay.
22:21.9
I'm talking about tactics pa.
22:23.5
I'm not even talking about
22:24.5
substantive problems.
22:34.9
not encouraged to
22:36.0
or discouraged from
22:37.2
pushing it to the next level.
22:39.6
what I mean here, right?
22:40.7
God bless his soul,
22:43.0
He had a lot of good things
22:44.4
to bring to the table.
22:46.5
you're not going to win the presidency
22:47.7
by promising the same thing.
22:50.0
the limits of that approach
22:52.0
was already exposed
22:56.0
you tell me if I'm wrong.
22:57.4
My understanding is
23:00.3
some people in his camp
23:02.3
go to the next level
23:03.7
and admit many of the shortcomings
23:08.9
there was an intervention.
23:09.6
I'm not going to say who,
23:10.8
but I'm kind of privy
23:12.0
to some of the conversations there.
23:13.4
we're saying this
23:14.3
not in the context of Marites
23:17.6
We're saying this because
23:19.0
people also have to realize
23:20.6
the Mar and the Po
23:22.5
were not the best version.
23:24.3
My understanding is that
23:25.8
kung siguro hindi siya
23:26.6
nag-team up kay Escudero
23:27.7
and the thing with Mar
23:29.7
you would have seen
23:30.2
a different Grace Po.
23:31.2
A much more out there,
23:33.1
inspirational Grace Po.
23:35.6
I think that was the other thing
23:37.1
that both of them
23:39.4
were kind of like
23:39.9
ipit yung isang kamay nila.
23:42.9
kasi yan ang pagkaintindihan ko.
23:44.7
Some people don't know
23:46.5
Yung brand ni Mar
23:48.7
the brand of Pinoy.
23:51.2
Tama yung sabi mo
23:52.3
na dapat nakakreate si Mar
23:54.2
ng sarili niyang brand.
23:56.9
nandun siya sa shadow
23:58.5
at hindi siya nakaalis doon
23:59.8
at yung brand ni Pinoy
24:03.2
ang naging dominant brand.
24:05.4
Hindi na necessarily
24:11.8
nung in-endorse na si Mar,
24:13.5
in-endorse na si Lenny,
24:17.0
nung kanyang shadow
24:23.0
nagkaroon ng effort
24:24.5
a different brand.
24:29.7
is in retrospect.
24:32.5
Binabalikan natin ngayon.
24:35.4
we're not doing retrospective
24:37.5
to assign blame and all.
24:41.2
out of Philippine politics
24:42.9
kasi I think may tendency
24:44.0
tayo sa Philippines.
24:45.4
Total analysis tayo.
24:47.0
kung tapos na elections,
24:47.9
as if nothing happened.
24:50.3
Yung ganun yung approach.
24:52.4
we can learn lessons.
24:56.2
sa Philippine politics.
24:58.5
that's why we have
25:01.3
It's my bread and butter.
25:03.4
Oo, para lang ano,
25:06.6
na lifestyle natin.
25:10.5
my thing kasi is,
25:17.5
and gets the biggest
25:21.8
talk about the circumstances.
25:29.8
or presumption na
25:31.9
once natalo ka na
25:32.7
sa isang ganyan level,
25:35.9
you can come back
25:36.7
and even come back
25:37.4
with a vengeance, right?
25:39.4
Lenny could still
25:40.8
if she comes back.
25:42.6
we're seeing with Grace Poe,
25:44.2
hindi tapos ang laban niya.
25:45.2
She could actually come back
25:46.2
and do even better
25:47.5
than what many people
25:48.7
expected back in the day.
25:50.1
we're doing this retrospective
25:52.1
because we're trying
25:55.1
if they want to win it back.
26:01.2
She can reinvent herself.
26:03.6
Exactly, exactly.
26:05.5
learn from the past.
26:07.6
and as far as the Tulfos
26:09.0
they're gonna juice it
26:10.1
while they're hot, right?
26:13.9
ba't yung kuya nila
26:18.1
medyo maglosapan na yan,
26:23.8
Sinong kuya nila?
26:32.0
I like this discussion,
26:36.6
if you don't keep on
26:37.6
trying to make sense
26:40.0
this is dialectical,
26:41.2
The past makes sense
26:42.0
in context of the present
26:46.4
from how you understand
26:47.4
the past and the present.
26:48.6
that's what I'm talking about,
26:53.0
I think let's talk about
26:54.0
in the final episode,
26:57.8
Thank you very much.
