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00:00.0
Okay guys, ito na ang pinakainabangan natin pag-usapan natin ang surveys. Pag-usapan natin ang Senate Race 2025 and of course yet another publicly leaked survey of 2028. Mukhang in all of them, isang pinaka-winner dito, the Tulfos.
00:21.7
So I have the, so in the Paul Seisha survey, Erwin Tulfo is number one. The same also dito sa OCTA survey. But in the OCTA survey, slightly mas ahead pa si Erwin Tulfo sa number two which is si Tito Boy Soto.
00:38.0
Si Tito Soto. So 58, almost 59% si Erwin at barely 52% si Tito Soto. So medyo malaki yung agwat niya sa lahat. Kasi the rest are all below 50%.
00:51.0
Si Erwin Tulfo, maxi 60% na. So if he solidifies that lead, then mukhang hindi na siya ma-Robin Padilla kasi si Rafi na Robin Padilla. Diba out of nowhere, bigla nag number one si Robin Padilla.
01:02.2
But here, the difference with the Paul Seisha survey is that there, mukhang five and above si Ben Tulfo. Dito si Ben Tulfo is statistically tied actually almost for, well he's number four, pero hindi siya masyadong malayo dun sa number two and three which is Bongo.
01:18.8
And I can count Bongo essentially as kind of a stand-in for Digong. And then of course Tito Soto was the former Senate President. This is crazy, right? I mean, two Tulfos in the top five. Slightly different in the Paul Seisha, but essentially you have one Tulfo at least, frontrunner, and two Tulfos beyond shoe-in, right?
01:43.0
If you're in top five, that's not even shoe-in. That's like almost sure.
01:48.8
What's going on here?
01:50.0
Well, napag-usapan nga natin yan last episode. Nandun sila sa spectrum ng populism. At sa ngayon, hindi lamang sa Pilipinas, kundi around the world, yung populism na yan ay umaangat sa US, sa North America, sa Europe, sa Latin America, even here.
02:12.4
Yung paborito mong presidente ng Indonesia, diba?
02:16.2
Very populist yung kanya po and using Tito.
02:20.3
Pabawo, diba? Pero napaka-powerful nung framework na quick fix, diba? Yun yung Tulfo brand eh. Quick fix.
02:32.9
Tatawagan nila yung police, tatawagan nila yung asawa, tatawagan nila yung government official in real time.
02:41.1
At kahit hindi ganung kalaki yung natulungan nila, ang tingin ng buong bansa ay,
02:46.2
matutulungan sila. Kaya yung ipapatulpo kita, isumbong ka tulpo, has become a household brand, diba?
02:56.3
Kahit saan, pinag-uusapan yan eh. Pinag-uusapan yan, no?
03:00.2
Kumbaga, yung The Punisher brand ni Tigoong sa Davao ay naging national brand, diba?
03:06.6
At nakakuha siya ng appeal, lalo na sa mga overseas Pilipinos na kinakambahan dun sa kanilang mga pamilya rito because of high crime rates.
03:16.2
pagkamat iba yung narrative,
03:18.3
nandoon sila pareho doon sa populist spectrum, no?
03:22.9
Kaya makikita mo in the future,
03:25.5
yan yung nagdo-dominate, no?
03:31.3
but to Dalarosa, populist naman siya, no?
03:33.9
Marami naman mga tumatakpo na medyo may antics-antics.
03:37.0
Bakit yung itong The Tulfo brand ay pinaka-tatak dito?
03:41.6
I mean, Ronald, would it be even controversial to say na,
03:45.7
nauna pa si Tigoong sa mga Tulfos in national politics, right?
03:50.1
Because if you think about it,
03:51.7
mas sikat ang mga Tulfos before kay Tigoong, diba?
03:54.6
If you ask anyone in 2014, 2015,
03:58.3
mas si Montolfo ang isipin mo may chance sa national office than someone like Tigoong, right?
04:03.8
So, the appetite was already there, yeah.
04:06.9
The gaze was there.
04:08.3
Ang tumakbo lang kasi si Senator Rafi Tulfo, no?
04:12.4
At kung ano siya, bago siyang senador.
04:15.7
na siya, all over the place, no?
04:17.8
Bago siyang senador, less than two years,
04:20.2
pero nagmamarka siya,
04:21.9
umaangat siya sa presidential.
04:23.6
Nalampasan na niya yung lone leader, si Sara.
04:27.8
In less than a few months, diba?
04:31.6
Yun yung nangyayari, no?
04:33.4
At siguro, yung difference sa populist brand ng Digo, ng Duterte, at saka ng Tulfo,
04:39.9
eh hindi violent yung Tulfo.
04:42.4
Quick fix, pero hindi sila na-identify sa libo-libo.
04:45.7
Hindi sila na-identify sa libo-libong extrajudicial killings.
04:47.1
At pumura sila, pero walang...
04:50.6
At saka magaling yung performative politics ni Senator Rafi Tulfo, no?
04:55.2
Yung kanyang main advocacy sa Senate kasi, land use.
04:59.3
So sino yung kontrabida sa land use?
05:01.3
Yung mga billiards, diba?
05:03.4
Yung mga billiards, which some people love to hate, no?
05:06.7
Ikalawa, yung DepEd.
05:10.4
DepEd, indirect na tama kay Vice President, no?
05:13.5
Nung kinakatay niya.
05:15.5
Si Senator Pia Cayetano.
05:17.2
Yung pinapalabas niya yung lahat ng mga papel, lahat ng mga reklamo, diba?
05:21.8
Di mo alam kung may laman nga yung papel.
05:25.2
Pero ang galing nung performance, diba?
05:27.5
Tapos yung Lotto.
05:29.9
Yung Lotto, na very popular sa mga may hirap.
05:33.9
Sa D, na parang ito na lang nga yung path sa mga may hirap
05:38.4
para quick fix or rags to riches,
05:42.6
eh minamanipulate pa.
05:44.8
Tapos panghuling,
05:45.5
itong bagpalat niya sa mga pulis
05:47.9
doon sa committee ni Bato.
05:49.3
Nag-walkout pa siya kay Bato.
05:50.8
Minu-huling niya at nag-walkout siya.
05:52.5
Galit na galit si Bato.
05:53.5
Pero ang beneficiary diyan,
05:55.0
si Senator Rafi Tulpo.
05:56.4
So, magaling din yung kanyang performative politics, no?
05:59.8
In reference doon sa kanilang brand.
06:02.5
So, yung brand nila,
06:03.4
Patronal, is it fair to just say it's performative?
06:07.3
Kasi performative means puro lang papogi,
06:10.6
pero palang substan.
06:12.9
hindi ka naman executive, eh.
06:15.5
Wala ka naman gagawing mga programa,
06:18.2
wala ka naman departamentong hawak, di ba?
06:20.5
May kaunti ka siguro mga budget,
06:22.8
pero kaya mas dominant sa Sen.
06:24.9
Yung performative politics,
06:29.8
Now, speaking of Rafi Tulpo,
06:31.8
obviously, he's the man of the hour.
06:35.1
Both of us knew from other surveys
06:37.0
na he was already leading over Sara Duterte.
06:39.3
Here, he's ahead of Sara,
06:41.1
but more or less statistically tied.
06:42.5
But the trajectory, as you correctly pointed out,
06:45.5
Barely above 15% the other year.
06:48.1
Now, he's at 35%, right?
06:50.8
That's a huge jump.
06:52.8
And sa NCR, he's at 41% in NCR.
06:56.2
So, ang lakas niya sa Imperial Manila, right?
06:59.4
Valens Luzon, he's 37%.
07:01.9
Visayas, he's 46%.
07:04.5
So, ang lakas lang dating sa Visayas.
07:08.0
Dapat bailing with Sara ng Visayas, di ba?
07:10.7
Pero more than double ang lampas sa kanya ni Tulpo, no?
07:14.2
Dapat kabahayin siya.
07:15.1
Bailing with siya yan, eh.
07:17.0
And interestingly,
07:18.3
malakas siya sa ABC at 36%,
07:20.8
well ahead of everyone else.
07:22.4
And malakas siya lalos sa E.
07:24.6
Mga pinakamahirap natin, mga kaubayan.
07:26.3
So, clearly, you can see the Tulpo brand of justice,
07:29.0
the quick fix, the vigilante approach.
07:31.2
This is something that appeals to the poorest of poor people.
07:32.9
Sa D, statistically tied sila ni Sara.
07:35.7
Yes, more or less.
07:36.8
Sa poor of the poor, talagang umalagwa siya.
07:40.5
But then again, Ronald, this is where we see.
07:42.8
If you look at Sara, her number in NCR,
07:45.1
is not even close.
07:46.3
She's only at 26%.
07:47.7
Balance Luzon, 23%.
07:50.4
Visayas, she's even lower at 20%.
07:54.0
It's again Mindanao that pushes up her number at 72%.
07:57.4
So, you could see,
07:58.7
it's really just Mindanao holding her competitive in this race.
08:01.8
But she's extremely vulnerable in Visayas, in Balance Luzon.
08:04.7
Pero kung may makukuha si Tulpo,
08:07.4
kung tumutuloy siya as president,
08:08.7
kung may makukuha siya na tika Bindalao,
08:13.0
Oo, as running mate.
08:16.6
Ano yung, kung kukunin ni Vice President Sara
08:20.0
as running mate si Robin Padilla,
08:21.8
kung titignan mo yung numbers ni Robin Padilla
08:23.5
dito sa Vice Presidential Survey,
08:25.6
wala siya masyadong value-added kay Sara.
08:28.3
Actually, I was very surprised.
08:29.2
Wala siya masyadong value-added.
08:30.4
Kumaga, yung kay Robin Padilla,
08:34.1
Naki-Sara na yun.
08:34.9
Parang overlap lang sila.
08:36.9
So, he's just an extension of Sara.
08:38.7
Wala siyang sariling added value.
08:40.0
You're absolutely correct about that.
08:42.4
Lenny is still there at number three.
08:44.7
And interestingly,
08:45.7
Lenny is statistically tied with Sara in Visayas,
08:50.0
And she's still doing pretty decently.
08:53.0
I mean, in the sense that she's,
08:54.1
I mean, still far away from the others.
08:56.6
But mukhang solid pa rin si Lenny at number 11.
08:59.1
Hindi yan insignificant, Big R, no?
09:03.4
Galing ka sa pagkatalo, eh.
09:05.2
Galing ka sa pagkatalo.
09:06.8
Tapos nag-a-announce ka
09:07.9
na hindi ka tatakbo for national office,
09:09.9
magpa-focus ka na lang sa NAGA,
09:15.6
Dahil nagpahinga ka,
09:17.5
nagbiyahi ka, etc.
09:18.8
Pero meron ko pa rin 11%.
09:20.5
That could be the solid pink.
09:22.9
That could be the solid pink.
09:24.5
At kung maghahanda siya
09:27.0
i-recommend na successor,
09:30.5
kung maghahanda siya,
09:31.8
mas mahaba yung panahon,
09:33.0
unlike yung 2022 election,
09:35.4
na nag-decision siya tumakbo
09:37.8
on the day of the filing.
09:40.3
hindi ko sasabihin na insignificant
09:48.0
Especially if magsama-samang
09:49.5
opposition and all,
09:50.8
Riza, Lenny, whatever,
09:51.6
it goes, it rally behind
09:53.7
then they could be
09:54.5
kind of a third force.
09:55.7
Because I'm sure a lot of people here,
09:57.2
Amy, Robin, Hood, Padilla,
09:58.9
I'm not sure if they're really
09:59.9
gonna run down the road.
10:01.1
But aren't you surprised also
10:02.3
with the vice-presidential situation?
10:04.9
Or perhaps we shouldn't be surprised,
10:06.8
Grace Poe is in a very good position
10:09.4
to become the next vice-president,
10:11.9
assuming she can maintain
10:14.3
Kasi patapos na yung term niya
10:16.2
So the question is what she will do
10:17.6
from 2025 to 2027
10:20.4
until the campaign starts for her to be.
10:23.2
Are you surprised?
10:24.1
Kasi ang alam ko,
10:26.1
she was being considered
10:27.5
as vice-presidential candidate
10:29.1
by at least one or two persons
10:30.8
I knew in last race.
10:32.8
Pero hindi na daw siya tumakbo
10:33.9
dahil tumakbo si Tito Soto
10:35.7
because, you know,
10:36.3
they're family and whatever.
10:37.7
But my sense also is that
10:38.7
perhaps she was not as competitive
10:40.5
because they're Sarah.
10:42.0
But in the next cycle,
10:44.1
Grace Poe may have her second shot
10:46.2
at the top offices of the land.
10:48.5
That's uninteresting
10:49.2
because Grace Poe also represents
10:50.4
another form of populism, right?
10:51.9
The kind of FPJ kind of populism.
10:55.7
Hindi ako surprised
10:56.6
dahil nga yung pinag-uusapan natin
10:59.1
populist spectrum
11:00.2
ay nandun din yung FPJ brand.
11:03.9
Yung vigilante culture natin.
11:10.7
Or actually more like messianic.
11:14.1
Kasi hindi naman vigilante si FPJ.
11:16.2
In fairness naman,
11:16.8
he was a great guy.
11:17.6
God bless his soul, right?
11:19.8
At least yung mga movies niya.
11:21.5
Yung mga movies niya
11:22.4
is also out of the box.
11:23.7
Yes, mag-alpha may Eleonora.
11:26.0
Sabi mo nga, messianic.
11:28.1
ay nag-rub on pa rin
11:33.9
meron namang deliverable si Grace Poe
11:35.8
nung siya ay naging senador.
11:38.5
ang dominant pa rin
11:40.6
pag iniisip ng mga tao si Grace Poe,
11:42.5
ang naiisip nila si FPJ.
11:46.1
within the populist spectrum.
11:50.7
Let's talk about Grace Poe
11:52.0
because this is an
11:52.8
interesting situation, right?
11:57.2
siya yung naging betanwa
12:03.1
Everyone is blaming her
12:04.3
among those people,
12:06.3
Na siya yung dahilan
12:07.0
na nalalo si Digong
12:10.6
I don't know if you agree with me, Ronald.
12:12.2
Let's talk about this
12:12.8
kasi we haven't talked about it
12:14.4
So, I'm glad that we can talk about
12:16.3
because we assume
12:18.6
she's not a factor
12:20.1
she can be once again a factor.
12:21.7
And she's way ahead.
12:24.7
for vice presidency.
12:26.5
The second one is
12:30.4
it's not even close.
12:31.0
And then the others are like 14%.
12:34.2
Robin Padilla is even very weak
12:35.9
also as vice president.
12:39.5
if she just doesn't do anything stupid,
12:42.5
she would be in a very,
12:43.7
very advantageous position.
12:45.9
It's just a question of
12:47.3
as her presidential mate.
12:49.5
Rafi Tulfo and Grace Poe.
12:51.1
that would be also
12:51.7
very interesting setup.
12:53.2
So, let's talk about Grace Poe a bit.
12:54.9
Before we talk about
13:00.4
kung hindi nagkalat si Binay
13:02.5
dun sa mga debates,
13:06.6
because he was already
13:07.5
number one by January.
13:10.1
after yung mga debates,
13:13.7
if I were his team,
13:15.6
Sir, wag mo nang patulan.
13:16.7
Gawin mo yung ginawa
13:17.3
ng unit team last elections.
13:19.0
Gawa ka ng sarili mong
13:19.9
seminar debates, whatever.
13:21.3
Or don't just do anything
13:24.3
I disagree with that
13:25.9
but that would be strategy
13:27.2
kasi mahirapan talaga
13:28.2
siya i-defend yung mga,
13:29.8
yung mga controversy back then.
13:31.9
the biggest factor
13:32.5
why nanalo si Digong
13:37.4
because Binay was
13:40.1
of Philippine politics.
13:42.1
ganito kami sa Makati,
13:43.4
gusto ko maging ganit.
13:44.6
how can you even beat that?
13:46.8
we know the facts of
13:48.7
but in terms of messaging,
13:51.3
ang ganda nung brand
13:52.9
in every sense of the word.
13:54.0
The infrastructure,
13:55.5
the ILG infrastructure,
13:56.8
everything he had
13:57.3
during the time of Pinoy.
14:01.2
is interesting to me
14:05.0
that the questioning
14:05.6
of her citizenship
14:07.4
because temporarily
14:08.4
tinanggal siya sa balot
14:15.8
for all of the good things
14:16.9
I've said about Maro
14:18.4
let's also be very realistic
14:20.9
first and second preference,
14:23.4
graceful would have been
14:24.2
a majority candidate,
14:26.8
number three siya
14:28.3
as first preference,
14:29.8
pero pag sinama yung
14:30.6
second preference
14:32.0
actually graceful
14:32.9
in a run of elections
14:35.1
She would have been
14:35.6
the president of the Philippines
14:36.5
kasi even if bumaba siya
14:38.2
as number one preference,
14:39.6
halos lahat ng ibang candidates
14:40.8
number two preference
14:41.7
sila si graceful eh.
14:42.6
Ito yung nakita ko.
14:42.9
Ito yung nakita ko.
14:43.0
Ito yung nakita ko
14:43.1
sa paulisasyon nun.
14:44.7
But the thing is,
14:46.9
and Digong winning and all,
14:49.1
Maro has just disappeared.
14:50.8
And then graceful
14:51.6
became the kind of
14:57.3
eto kasing itong babae na to,
15:02.0
parang na-cancel siya.
15:03.0
If I can put it that way,
15:05.1
And the thing with graceful,
15:07.5
from my understanding
15:10.3
there's the Poe name,
15:11.2
there's the FBJ branding.
15:12.5
But if you look at
15:13.2
graceful herself,
15:16.2
Democrat president.
15:17.9
a candidate, right?
15:23.7
pragmatic, of course,
15:28.0
a centrist Democrat,
15:30.2
of the Philippines, right?
15:35.1
or should she become
15:35.9
the president in the future,
15:36.9
I think she would do
15:37.9
a lot of good standard policies
15:40.6
what we're even getting
15:45.9
what is your read
15:46.9
Grace Poe episode?
15:49.0
she may have a second shot
15:50.3
at the highest offices.
16:12.9
may sakit na noon, eh.
16:19.9
could have done better
16:24.0
ay tama yung sabi mo,
16:26.3
May mga variables
16:33.2
on corruption charges,
16:35.8
two years yan, eh.
16:38.1
Senate hearing yan, eh.
16:41.7
Na-mishandle niya
16:47.7
nung ganong klaseng
16:53.1
kanyang citizenship,
16:54.9
muntik na siya matalo
16:55.8
sa Senate Electoral Tribunal,
17:02.2
sa Supreme Court.
17:05.0
yung span of time
17:07.9
kung siya ay pwedeng tumakbo,
17:09.7
cost her something, no?
17:13.8
yung kanyang narrative
17:14.7
na wala during the campaign, eh.
17:16.8
Yung kanyang narrative
17:19.4
ampunin si Grace Poe.
17:25.3
ng mga iba niyang kalaban,
17:29.0
para umangat siya, eh.
17:30.2
Pero, during the campaign,
17:31.9
especially during the debates,
17:34.6
a traditional politician.
17:37.0
Kung makikita mo.
17:38.6
Nawala yung kanyang
17:44.0
Na sympathy sa ampun,
17:45.6
tapos dagdag yung FPJ
17:46.9
during the debate.
17:51.8
She did very well
17:52.3
during the debates.
17:53.0
I think she was the best
17:56.5
pero ang hinahanap ng tao
17:58.7
is a disruptor, eh.
18:01.7
Yung hinahanap nila
18:05.2
Siya naging cognitive siya, eh.
18:07.1
Nung debate, diba?
18:08.2
Okay, let's be honest.
18:10.4
the cognitive was the problem.
18:11.8
I think the problem
18:14.5
I mean, let's be honest.
18:15.7
Eskudera's collapse
18:17.2
in terms of knowledge.
18:18.4
Nakabawa sa kanya yun.
18:19.9
purong nagpakit lang siya.
18:21.4
Wala, wala siyang
18:22.7
Pero yung pinakamahalaga,
18:24.2
In-underestimate nila
18:27.6
In-underestimate nila.
18:28.9
Una, yung narrative
18:30.1
hindi siya tatakbo
18:30.9
habang nagbibuild na siya
18:34.7
Kinuwento ko yan, eh.
18:48.0
before the election.
18:49.6
Dumating si Digong,
18:50.6
dumating si Bongo,
18:56.5
at saka si Lillian Briones
19:00.7
Habang in public,
19:02.9
hindi siya tatakbo.
19:04.5
Nireport ko yan, eh.
19:07.0
Huwag kayong maniwalang
19:11.2
Pero ina-underestimate nila.
19:14.1
ay makakatulong siya
19:23.7
ay yung substitution.
19:26.1
hindi siya nag-file, eh,
19:28.8
Si Dino yung nag-file.
19:32.3
ganun din yung sabi ko
19:36.3
walang naniwala, eh.
19:37.5
Walang naniwala, eh.
19:41.6
dahil yung kanyang
19:44.6
Ang hindi nila tinignan
19:46.5
na pinag-uusapan natin,
19:48.2
hindi nila tinignan
19:48.9
yung movement of numbers.
19:51.0
Hindi nila tinignan.
19:51.6
And also the sentiment
19:52.3
that there's a lot of
19:56.8
nag-enrage politics, eh.
19:59.3
At saka hindi nila tinignan
20:00.6
yung mga mobilization,
20:02.4
yung mga rallies ni Digong,
20:05.4
Talagang hindi hakot.
20:09.9
Yung kanyang authenticity,
20:12.0
yung kanyang spontaneity,
20:14.8
Yung kanyang pagmumura
20:18.8
para sa maraming mga tao,
20:21.3
especially the overseas
20:24.1
yun yung ikatlong factor.
20:26.4
In-underestimate nila lahat.
20:32.0
Digong did a trumpet.
20:41.2
hindi yan Pilipino.
21:00.3
Habang doon sa iba,
21:01.0
very critical siya.
21:04.8
Yun ang nagmarka.
21:06.3
Yun ang nagmarka.
21:08.7
audience impact niya
21:09.7
was definitely there.
21:10.7
Tsaka yung inaasar niya,
21:12.1
pangatlong ano mo na yan.
21:18.6
hindi naman si Grace
21:25.0
na in-underestimate,
21:26.9
na naging spontaneous
21:28.8
at saka authentic,
21:30.7
talagang lahat sila
21:33.9
or because yung tatlo,
21:35.7
nagpatayan yung tatlo,
21:36.9
he just came from behind,
21:38.6
Prince Paul versus Mar.
21:39.7
Dahil na in-underestimate nila eh.
21:41.8
In-underestimate nila.
21:43.6
silang tatlong makakalaban.
21:47.6
hindi nila na-monitor,
21:48.9
pataas na ng pataas
21:52.3
Paganda na ng paganda
21:53.3
yung mga mobilizations.
21:57.1
medyo naka-perfect storm
22:02.3
Kaya hindi ko i-blame,
22:03.6
hindi ko i-blame yung iba
22:04.7
sa pagkatalo nila.
22:08.7
because of the Digong
22:11.8
The Digong ecology.
22:18.4
there was a lot of problem
22:19.2
on the side of Binay.
22:21.9
I'm talking about tactics pa.
22:23.5
I'm not even talking about
22:24.5
substantive problems.
22:34.9
not encouraged to
22:36.0
or discouraged from
22:37.2
pushing it to the next level.
22:39.6
what I mean here, right?
22:40.7
God bless his soul,
22:43.0
He had a lot of good things
22:44.4
to bring to the table.
22:46.5
you're not going to win the presidency
22:47.7
by promising the same thing.
22:50.0
the limits of that approach
22:52.0
was already exposed
22:56.0
you tell me if I'm wrong.
22:57.4
My understanding is
23:00.3
some people in his camp
23:02.3
go to the next level
23:03.7
and admit many of the shortcomings
23:08.9
there was an intervention.
23:09.6
I'm not going to say who,
23:10.8
but I'm kind of privy
23:12.0
to some of the conversations there.
23:13.4
we're saying this
23:14.3
not in the context of Marites
23:17.6
We're saying this because
23:19.0
people also have to realize
23:20.6
the Mar and the Po
23:22.5
were not the best version.
23:24.3
My understanding is that
23:25.8
kung siguro hindi siya
23:26.6
nag-team up kay Escudero
23:27.7
and the thing with Mar
23:29.7
you would have seen
23:30.2
a different Grace Po.
23:31.2
A much more out there,
23:33.1
inspirational Grace Po.
23:35.6
I think that was the other thing
23:37.1
that both of them
23:39.4
were kind of like
23:39.9
ipit yung isang kamay nila.
23:42.9
kasi yan ang pagkaintindihan ko.
23:44.7
Some people don't know
23:46.5
Yung brand ni Mar
23:48.7
the brand of Pinoy.
23:51.2
Tama yung sabi mo
23:52.3
na dapat nakakreate si Mar
23:54.2
ng sarili niyang brand.
23:56.9
nandun siya sa shadow
23:58.5
at hindi siya nakaalis doon
23:59.8
at yung brand ni Pinoy
24:03.2
ang naging dominant brand.
24:05.4
Hindi na necessarily
24:11.8
nung in-endorse na si Mar,
24:13.5
in-endorse na si Lenny,
24:17.0
nung kanyang shadow
24:23.0
nagkaroon ng effort
24:24.5
a different brand.
24:29.7
is in retrospect.
24:32.5
Binabalikan natin ngayon.
24:35.4
we're not doing retrospective
24:37.5
to assign blame and all.
24:41.2
out of Philippine politics
24:42.9
kasi I think may tendency
24:44.0
tayo sa Philippines.
24:45.4
Total analysis tayo.
24:47.0
kung tapos na elections,
24:47.9
as if nothing happened.
24:50.3
Yung ganun yung approach.
24:52.4
we can learn lessons.
24:56.2
sa Philippine politics.
24:58.5
that's why we have
25:01.3
It's my bread and butter.
25:03.4
Oo, para lang ano,
25:06.6
na lifestyle natin.
25:10.5
my thing kasi is,
25:17.5
and gets the biggest
25:21.8
talk about the circumstances.
25:29.8
or presumption na
25:31.9
once natalo ka na
25:32.7
sa isang ganyan level,
25:35.9
you can come back
25:36.7
and even come back
25:37.4
with a vengeance, right?
25:39.4
Lenny could still
25:40.8
if she comes back.
25:42.6
we're seeing with Grace Poe,
25:44.2
hindi tapos ang laban niya.
25:45.2
She could actually come back
25:46.2
and do even better
25:47.5
than what many people
25:48.7
expected back in the day.
25:50.1
we're doing this retrospective
25:52.1
because we're trying
25:55.1
if they want to win it back.
26:01.2
She can reinvent herself.
26:03.6
Exactly, exactly.
26:05.5
learn from the past.
26:07.6
and as far as the Tulfos
26:09.0
they're gonna juice it
26:10.1
while they're hot, right?
26:13.9
ba't yung kuya nila
26:18.1
medyo maglosapan na yan,
26:23.8
Sinong kuya nila?
26:32.0
I like this discussion,
26:36.6
if you don't keep on
26:37.6
trying to make sense
26:40.0
this is dialectical,
26:41.2
The past makes sense
26:42.0
in context of the present
26:46.4
from how you understand
26:47.4
the past and the present.
26:48.6
that's what I'm talking about,
26:53.0
I think let's talk about
26:54.0
in the final episode,
26:57.8
Thank you very much.
