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naval assets, warships
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what not, alright
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so there are all sorts of different
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interesting developments happening in this
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part of the world and obviously the timing
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of the conversations we're having right now
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in the US is also very very
10:13.9
important because
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after all, in few days
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time, so next week na ito
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ayan, si Junior
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Marcos Junior, minamahal yung Marcos Junior
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papunta na dito sa
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Amerika para makapagpulong
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kay President
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President Joseph Biden
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at kasama rin dyan, and of course
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that's what makes this very very interesting mga hameta
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is kasama rin dyan si
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Fumio Kishida, alright
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yung Prime Minister
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ng Japan, so it will be an
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unprecedented, first time ever
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trilateral summit between
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Philippines, Japan, and US
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which I've termed as JAFUS
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so that it also rhymes with
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AUKUS, because as you know
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the United States has finalized
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or
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has had finalized
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earlier, isa pang
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trilateral security arrangement
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with Australia and the United Kingdom
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yung tinatawag na AUKUS, with a particular
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focus on the development of
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nuclear-powered submarines
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not nuclear missile-carrying
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submarines, but nuclear-powered submarines
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and then of course
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last year also you had this
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important trilateral summit kung saan
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nagpulong ang leaders
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ng South Korea, Japan, and United States
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another important trilateral grouping
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as you know, mga Koreans and Japanese
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may dynamics mga yan, at as you know
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I think yung mga
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mga sobrang bentang mga movies sa Korea
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usually ito yung mga movies kung saan
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tinatalo nilang Japan, right
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and yung isang movie na
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palabas ngayon sa Korea na bago
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yung kanilang naval battle
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battle against Japan
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when they defeated the invading
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samurais from Japan
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during the, I mean this is
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probably the pre-chosen or one of the
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major kingdoms in South Korea
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so as you know, ang laki ng dynamics
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between
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South Korea, yung dynamics ng Japan
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and South Korea is very complicated
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malalim ang hugot ng mga Koreans
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laban sa mga Japon
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especially dun sa mga ginawa ng Japon
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sa kanila nung kinolonize
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sila from the 1890s
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all the way to the end of Second World War
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so hanggang ngayon, extremely
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extremely
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competitive
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yung dalawang bansa na yan, and if you are in
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South Korea, believe me, the last thing you want to do
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is praise something from Japan
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although the Japanese are more charitable about this
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they just laugh it off yung competitiveness
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ng mga South Koreans, but South Koreans
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are extremely, extremely competitive
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with the Japanese
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mention anything, I don't know, Cherry Blossom
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the Koreans will say, oh our version is better
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well, pagdating naman sa
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pop music and culture
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mukhang medyo panalo ng Korea ngayon
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at sa pop music
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so yung K-pop definitely is doing way better
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ng J-pop nowadays
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pero bati sa anime, humaabal na rin mga Koreans
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but of course, yung K-pop is doing way better
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mga batang 90s and 2000s
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Team Japan kami
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when it comes to that
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so there is a very, very
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deep-seated
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kind of grievance
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in Korea, similar to China
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laban sa Japon
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and time and again, yung issues
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ng reparations, issues
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ng comfort women, issues ng mga abuso
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ng ginawa ng Japon noong Second World War
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and before it comes up in
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bilateral relationship, there were times
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that South Korea suspended
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intelligence sharing with Japan
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there were times that a Japanese journalist
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I think was arrested
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in South Korea because of
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again, yung mga disagreements
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and issues of historical revisionism
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of Japan. Again, I hope personally, I'm quite critical
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of the fact na sa tingin ko talaga
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may pakapulang talaga ng Japan
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pagdating sa recognition
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of its mistakes
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and all. It's not about one speech that
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I don't know, one or two
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prime ministers in Japan gave. It's about
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institutionalism
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and internalizing redemption, right?
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And this is what we see in
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Germany. So, in Germany, just
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malapit lang sa hotel namin, no?
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Naandun yung Holocaust Memorial, no?
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So, constantly in Germany, you see
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you see reminders
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you see institutionalized
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repentance, no?
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by the Germans
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when it comes to yung mga
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sobrang mga malalaking
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krimen na ginawa nila noong
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Second World War. Now,
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that is not to say that others
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should get off the hook, but obviously
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yung ginawa nila sa Holocaust was
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totally next level of
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genocidal inhumanity.
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Obviously, other countries
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also committed a lot of crimes. The Ottomans
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for instance, had their own genocide
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against the Armenian people,
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something that today's Turkish regime
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does not recognize.
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In fact, if you push for that argument in Turkey,
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you're going to be in deep, deep trouble
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and some of their greatest thinkers,
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Orhan Pamuk, among others,
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their Nobel Prize literary genius
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is living outside Istanbul,
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his beloved city
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because, you know,
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because of, you know, the kind of issues that he raised
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about the Armenian genocide.
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Obviously, mga ibang bansa, mga
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Briten, mga Pranses, mga
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Amerikano, lahat sila may ginawang
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sobrang daming mali. In fairness,
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in fact, one of the interesting things that came out during one of our
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discussions due to South Carolina and some of the folks
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here was yung
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yung daming,
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yung casualties,
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ng Philippine-American War.
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Because alam niya naman,
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yung revolusyon natin laban sa Espanya.
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Pero hindi natin masyadong pinag-usapan
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yung revolusyon natin laban sa mga Amerikano.
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It is not true na nung dumating
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mga Amerikano, biglang, hello, happy na tayo
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and take over the country. Hindi naman tayo gano'n.
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Lumaban ang mga Pilipino, lumaban ang mga ating
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mga ilustrado,
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lumaban yung ating mga
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katipuneros and revolutionaries,
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including General Aguinaldo.
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They kept on fighting for a few years
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and,
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by some account, hundreds of thousands of
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Filipinas died, directly and
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indirectly as a result of the war.
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But so, dito sa Amerika,
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I don't see as much recognition of their
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dark past in the Philippines, including
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the colonization of the
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Philippines. In fact, yung term na colony,
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colonization, is not something I hear
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much in conversations, in official conversations.
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And I think,
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pagdating sa Amerika, hindi silang masyadong
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nag-they're not educating
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their folks enough
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about also their own
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colonial past in the Philippines, among others.
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But, this is all about,
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but this is America.
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I mean, ano naman,
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wala naman silang ginagawa mali, diba?
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Lahat naman naman ginagawa nila, tama, diba?
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Gano'n naman eh. Parang China din yan, diba?
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Yun din sa China, wala naman maling China.
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Tapos yun sa China pa, sila pa ang diktima, diba?
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So, China, pag nagselta, parang
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hindi nilang bansa, parang hinan nilang bansa,
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parang kawawan nilang bansa, parang atin nilang pinag-usapan.
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Hundred years of humiliation
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and opium wars and all that.
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But diba sa inyo, hundred years lang kami,
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four hundred, five hundred years of humiliation.
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Yung mga mga kapitay natin,
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also, sobrang kinawawa ko sila ng mga Dutch,
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ng mga British,
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not to mention yung mga colonies of Germany
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and Africa. So, there were many
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horrible things that happened throughout the centuries
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in different countries around the world.
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Pero pag dating sa China,
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pag magsalita sila, parang sila lang
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ang kinawawa ng ibang bansa.
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So, obviously, it tells you that there's definitely
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this sense of,
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there's this sense of entitlement,
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there's sense of hubris,
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the sense of,
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inherent superiority
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that unfortunately
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blinds
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China's strategists
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and diplomats to
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also the grievances and
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feelings and sentiments of smaller countries
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in the region.
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Ito yung tinatawag na superpower
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narcissism.
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Yung mga narcissism. Nakikita rin natin
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sa Russia yan. Pag si Putin nagsalita,
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parang sila pa yung kawawa.
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Never mind the fact na
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in-invade nila yung Georgia, in-invade nila yung Ukraine.
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Kahit binubully nila yung mga maliit na bansa
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around the region.
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They bully their way through Central Asia.
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Well, I know this because I'm familiar with those parts
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of the world, right?
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So, this is what we're facing right now.
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But anyway,
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balingan natin yan. Of course, napag-usapan natin
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with si
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Ronaldo Llamas, Richard Alden
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sa itong issue natin to a certain degree
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the other day.
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But let me tell you guys,
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pagdating dito sa
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pagdating dito sa
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issue ng
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trilateral summit
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between Philippines, Japan, and the US.
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Ang basa ko talaga dito
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is
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tatlo.
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Unang-una, I think
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and this is where sabi ko,
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dapat ingat talagang Pilipinas.
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And alam ko, dahil si BBM medyo
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pababa, spaghetti pababa yung approval
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ratings niya. I'm sure na mayroon siyang
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you know, there's this
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how should I put it?
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There's this incentive for
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him to go all-in
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sa West Philippines issue
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and by extension to go all-in dito
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sa ating aliansa with America.
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Not to mention, itong emerging
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also military cooperation natin
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with Japan at a whole different level.
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Alright?
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I have some problems with that.
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Ang fear ko dito is
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baka
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we will eventually over-limit
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our room for maneuver.
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because I'm sure ang hihingi ng mga Japon at hihingi ng mga Amerikano
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is maximal flexible access doon sa mga pinaka-priced military assets and facilities natin, right?
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Now, in theory, that shouldn't be a problem when you deal with your allies and friends
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but clearly, pagdating sa Pilipinas,
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I would say we're the most vulnerable to China's retribution and reprisals.
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Japan can hold its own, the United States is way out of the region.
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I mean, they have outer territories, Guam, Hawaii, but mainland America is across the Pacific Ocean.
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Philippines is very vulnerable, it's very much on the front line.
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And ang basa ko dito, a lot of the bullying that China is doing,
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including, again, this latest bullying na ginawa nila sa Philippine Coast Guard just a few hours ago,
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a lot of that is because natatakot sila na bibigyan natin ang access sa mga Amerikano.
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At potentially, ibang mga Japon and others doon sa mga key bases natin sa north of the Philippines, right?
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Kaya nga, I think it was important that yung Governor Batanes recently came out and clarified
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that hindi na matutuloy yung U.S. port facility construction plan sa Batanes
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because I always felt that would be a tad provocative perhaps.
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I mean, I'm not, again, I'm all for us developing whatever we can,
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pero you have to do this steady and surely and in a calibrated manner, no?
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So, I really hope na itong discussion ngayon, upcoming discussion ngayon sa Washington, D.C.
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between Kishida, Marcos, and Biden, dapat Marcos make sure na he doesn't get overly involved in all sorts of different issues.
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And if ever, he is going to give a lot of access to the Americans and also to Japan
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because Japan is also negotiating its Visiting Forces Agreement style deal with the Philippines
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and RAA reciprocal access agreement.
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Reciprocal, but we know naman ang Japan naman talaga mas magpadala sa atin kaysa the other way around
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while we're still developing our capacities.
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Ang point ko lang, I hope the Philippines make sure that we are playing this very smartly
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along with very effective diplomacy behind the scenes.
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And importantly, I hope hindi lang boots and bases.
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Ang mga kuha natin dito, sobrang importante dito ng Pilipinas,
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gets really decent, good defense support from these countries.
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Last time I checked, wala pa tayong nakuha kahit isang advanced modern fighter jet from the United States, right?
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And I'm not also sure if you have got a single advanced as in 21st century,
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not Vietnam era, not 1990s, not your favorite frigate or warship.
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The difference...
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The best weapons we have, the most modern weapons we have, they're all from South Korea.
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The missile systems that we're going to have is from India.
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So none of it is from the United States.
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And then pagdating naman sa Japan, Japan naman has been very, very helpful to us.
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Japan, Japan.
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But we want to make sure na as Japan relaxes restrictions on export of advanced weapon systems,
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dapat ang Pilipinas should be a primary, not only customer,
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because we're hoping to get a lot of these advanced weapon systems on the best possible deal, right?
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So that's one of the issues that is going to come up there.
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But the second issue I think is also to make sure na hindi lang puro mga armas lang pag-usapan,
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dapat pag-usapan din ang economic cooperation.
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I think that is extremely, extremely important,
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particularly pagdating sa semiconductor development, manufacturing investments.
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So those are very important things that Marcos has to talk about.
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He has to bring investments.
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He has to bring in job.
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He has to...
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No, I'm not talking about donations.
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I'm talking about at least, you know, discounted deals or whatever.
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Semiconductors, those are the things that the Philippines has to focus on during these conversations.
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Japan is in the midst of a renaissance in the semiconductor industry, investing $67 billion in it.
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So Japan could also probably tie in the Philippines into semiconductor development.
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And the United States has to be more proactive in pushing for a bilateral free trade agreement
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with the Philippines or something that really makes sure that Philippine exports to the U.S.
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are far more competitive than they are.
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Because Vietnam is exporting like, what, 7, 8, 9, 10 times than the Philippines to the United States.
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That's a crazy situation, right?
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And lastly, I think this is also about making sure na ma-insulate itong aliansa ng tatong bansa na yan
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should Duterte come back or more urgently for that matter.
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A Trump win comes over the horizon, right?
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Kasi if Trump wins or Duterte comes back, there are many ways that Duterte can come back,
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biglang baka everything will be up in the air.
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So I think the challenge also right now is to super tighten military intelligence,
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cybersecurity cooperation, strategic cooperation, that whoever wins in U.S. elections in November,
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whoever becomes the next Filipino president, or if ever BBM has to step down or whatever, replace,
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the fundamentals of those alliance will hold together.
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So I think that's why it's also kind of a race against time.
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Although, of course, I'm still not sure Trump will win this November.
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I think Biden is still doing pretty decently in some of the battleground states based on some of the surveys.
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So the surveys are actually very inconclusive.
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There are 12 surveys out there.
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Six of them say this.
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Six of them said that.
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And I think a lot of the Democrats are also now angry at Biden because of his policies on Gaza,
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among others.
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But who knows?
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Maybe come November, they're going to have a very different stance on these issues.
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All right, guys.
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Medyo humabal tayo sa next natin ng mga gagawin.
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Thank you so much.
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Maraming salamat sa lahat ng mga sumuporta sa atin.
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Maraming salamat sa lahat ng mga nag-comments, suggestions, stickers, stars, whatever.
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All of these things really, really gives us a sense of encouragement, inspiration.
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And I'll tell you what, kagabi, kahit sobrang pagod na ako,
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some videos and all, may mga learnings, some of the basic things,
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you know, the tripod and all of that.
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So I'm just trying to experiment also to do things that hindi lang pang politika,
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pang sports pa, at pang pamilya.
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All right?
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At baka naman, baka naman, gusto natin mag-showbiz.
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So kailangan natin ng mga production.
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All right?
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Pero self-production lang.
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All right?
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On that note, thank you very much.
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God bless.
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And talk to you soon.
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Maraming salamat.
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Thank you very much.
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God bless.
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Talk to you soon.