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Okay, so nakita ko tong story na to and medyo nagtataka ako hindi siya naging viral, no?

Or I think, I think hindi siya naging viral and hindi ko siya nakita dun sa mga usual suspects ng mga content creator na pinag-uusapan tong debate tungkol kay Leia at Regine

kung sino ba ang mas narapat na maging national artist sa kanilang dalawa.

Well, everybody knows naman na lahat ng mga Pilipino, alam natin na pareha silang deserving, okay?

So, hindi debate yun actually.

Pero, let's make it fun, no?

Sino kung mamimili ka ng isa lang dito sa dalawang ito, sino ang pipiliin mo, diba?

So, ganun lang na.

Yan, hindi naman kailangan piliin yung pipiliin ko.

Pero, I think this is a good topic to discuss, okay?

So, sino ang mas national artist right now, kung sino ang pipiliin nyo between Regine Velasquez and Leia Salonga?

So, ano yung mga merits nila for you to pick, okay?

So,

hindi nila pinag-usapan ito, so tayo ang mag-discuss.

So, first of all, ano muna yung national artist, no?

So, yung national artist, that is the highest order that the government can recognize yung mga alagad ng sining, okay?

So, simple lang naman ang mga patakaran para ma-qualify ka na national artist.

So,

Filipino artist, ito, who have made significant contribution to the cultural heritage of the country.

So, yan yung mga, ano natin, mga kailangang ma-meet na qualifications.

Filipino artistic accomplishment at its highest level and to promote creative expression as significant to the development of national cultural identity.

Parang halos magkaparehas lang ito.

Yung dalawang A at B.

Dega, C, Filipino artists who have dedicated their lives to their works to forge new paths and directions for future generations of Filipino artists.

Okay?

So, tega, ano pinagkaiba nung A sa B?

Contributions to cultural heritage of the country, yung isa.

Promote creative expression.

Ah, okay, okay, gets ko na, gets ko na.

Okay.

So, obviously,

parehas nilang ginawa yan.

Ang tanong na lang, sino ang mas nag-me-meet sa kriteria na yan?

Okay, but first of all, isang thing din about this is, I think, ang naunang nilabas nila na candidate for national artist was Regine Velasquez.

Tapos, parang teka, bakit si Regine?

Parang gano'n, si Leia na lang.

Diba, parang gano'n.

At least sa pagkakaunawa ako, maaaring mali ako.

Kasi nung una ko nakikita si Regine lang eh.

Actually, natuwa nga ako, uy, maggagawing national artist si Regine.

Kasi yung madami sa mga national artist were awarded posthumously.

Ibig sabihin, patay na yung national artist.

O kaya, sobrang tanda na.

Diba, mga tamang 70, late 70s, 80s, ganyan.

Kung baga, if you are young and then you have already accomplished enough contributions for the Filipino arts,

then kahit bata ka pa, kahit middle age ka pa lang, pwede ka talagang ma-awardan ng national artist.

I think it's quite rare. I'm not sure how rare it is na, kung baga, relatively bata pa nabibigyan na ng national artist award yung mga candidates.

Okay, so...

So, I would think that Leia and Regine would be among the youngest, if ever, mabigyan sila ng award ngayon.

Okay, so, well, ano ba yung mga nagiging award ng national artist?

So, well, may pera, diba? May pera siya. Every year ata, binibigyan ka ng fund.

But, itong si Leia at saka si Regine naman, di naman.

Sobrang yaman naman tong dalawang ito.

So, they really don't need that money. Although, why not, diba? It's still free money.

But, also, yung award, meron silang medal itself.

And then, every time that may mga functions, kumbaga, imemension yung name nila, parang ano siya, required, lalo na sa mga government functions,

you would be recognized.

The presence of, ah, madam, ano bang tawag sa, ano, honorable ba?

Basta, kung ano mang salutations ng national artist, Regine Velasquez, national artist for music, diba?

Basta, i-re-recognize ka.

And, of course, yung recognition of, ah, parang fulfillment of a lifelong dream.

Lifelong achievement and to be recognized by the government, saying that you are an important figure.

Na humubog ng kulturang Pilipino sa iyong panahon.

Hindi ba napakalaking karangala nun, diba?

Napakalaking karangala nun.

Lalo na kung alagad ka ng sining.

So, madaming mga, ano eh, madaming mga sining ang ina-awardan.

Hindi lang music, of course.

Yung mga visual arts, theater, ah, visual arts, film, ganyan.

Architecture, sculpture, at kung ano-ano pa.

Yung mga art, poetry, literature.

So, ah, big deal.

Big deal ang maging national artist.

Okay, so, ngayon, mamimili tayo.

We're gonna do the impossible.

Mamimili tayo dito kay Regine at kay Lea Salonga.

Kung mamimili ka ng isang national artist between them to be awarded,

ah, every three years yung, ano eh, yung national artist.

And, ah, parang 2022 yung last na nagkaroon ng awards, I think.

So, 2025 pa mag, ah, ano, mag, ah, magbibigay ng, ng mga awards.

Okay, I think, I'm not sure, I'm not gonna research anymore.

Pero parang 10 ata every time.

I don't think anyone would question the legitimacy ng, ah, pagkakanominate

kina Regine at Lea.

Ah, so, hindi ko alam.

Kasi pwede namang sabay na lang sila eh, di ba?

Bawal ba yun?

Hindi ko alam eh.

Ah, another, another, before we continue pala, another thing is, ah, parang,

the, like I said, these, ah, women are relatively young.

And, ah, there have been, ah, um, singers, musicians,

that came before them

like Armida Sigion Reyna,

like Pilita Corrales,

and others.

Yung iba hindi ko nakilala

kasi sobrang tanda na.

Yung iba manamang namatay na.

And some are saying that

they deserve to be recognized first

before these women,

more contemporary artists.

Okay?

So, tanggalin na natin sa equation yun.

Okay?

Banggitin lang natin

kasi mamimili nga lang tayo

kay Regine at kay Leia.

Kasi ako, wala akong problema talaga

kung mas bata.

Okay?

So, kung mas deserving,

again, yung criteria dito,

kung namimit ba itong mga to.

Of course, the contributions of

Pilita Corrales back in the 60s.

Kaya hindi mo naman talaga matatakot

ng tawaran din.

Pero, hindi naman siya kasali dito

sa dalawa.

Okay.

So, ano ang mga merits ni Regine

para sa akin?

Okay.

So, if I'm going to choose

between these two,

given na ang qualification ay

sa A muna tayo,

contributions to the cultural heritage

of the country.

Between Leia and Regine,

si Regine kasi, ano eh,

ang stark difference nila

is Regine Velasquez

is a truly homegrown talent.

Leia Salonga is a homegrown talent as well.

Pero, her fame

was established abroad.

Or at least, dun siya talaga nag-flourish

abroad.

Sa Broadway,

dun sa Miss Saigon,

historically,

di ba?

Kumbaga,

she was the first

Filipino,

I think Asian,

to win a Tony,

which was a big deal back then.

And back in the 80s

or early 90s ata yun,

kailan ba nanalo?

Yung mga kakakilala ko na

taga ibang bansa back then,

were really proud

when she,

she won.

Naaalala talaga nila yun.

Kasi, back then,

hindi pa naman global yung

wala pang internet, di ba?

So, it's very rare

that the Philippines

get mentioned along

the lines of

the Hollywood elites

and the best

to be ranked

among the best in the world.

Big deal talaga yun.

While itong si Regine naman

had always been,

a local talent.

Although nanalo rin siya

ng isang singing contest

abroad,

nanalo din siya dun,

but that win

compared to

the rest of

her musical career

is but a sparkle

dun sa tunay

na liwanag

ng career ni

Regine Velasquez

as a singer.

So, we're just gonna talk

about the singing.

Kasi pareha silang

nagpilikula din, although

talagang singer talaga sila.

First and foremost.

Si Leia, nagpilikula rin siya,

but hindi naman sila

nominated for

National Artist for Film.

So, yun ang isang punto.

Si Regine is a

homegrown talent.

Legitimate na parang

dito siya sa Pilipinas.

Dito siya na mayagpag, dito siya nakilala,

dito niya ginawa.

Her best works

were done in the Philippines.

Si Leia Salonga,

we can say that her best works

were done abroad.

But, her best works

gave so much

pride to Filipinos

over here

and abroad.

And, she

had been recognized

as a legend

in the international

theater scene.

Si Regine Velasquez,

I think she tried

back then, but

she wasn't able to

penetrate. I don't know what happened

to her. I suppose

dahil okay na okay naman siya

dito eh. Nandito na siya eh.

Kung baka siya na yung reyna

dito eh. Diba?

And, for better

or for worse,

ito yung

dito talaga siya na reyna.

Pagdating dito,

at her peak, at her

prime, nobody touches

Regine Velasquez.

Dito sa first criteria,

cultural

heritage to the country,

I would have to give it to Regine.

Okay?

To Regine.

And also,

mas pang masa

talaga si Regine.

Kung nasa si Regine,

si Leia kasi,

not a lot of Filipinos

can watch

her show. Diba?

Hindi ko nga alam kung...

Kasi theater, even

locally produced theater

productions,

hindi pa rin pang

masa eh. Diba? May pagka-elitista

ang dating ng mga

ng theater talaga.

Whether they admit it or not,

diba?

And hindi talaga siya pang masa.

Unlike Regine Velasquez,

maririnig mo talaga

yung mga kanta niya

everywhere.

Especially back in the

90s at her peak

in the 2000s, early

2000s, diba?

Maririnig mo siya

sa TV, maririnig mo siya

sa radyo, maririnig mo

siya sa mga

jeep, diba? Maririnig mo

talaga siya sa

sa mga

tawag dito? Sa mga

parlor, diba? And also

Regine Velasquez

has become

a gay icon.

Diba? Especially

yung mga older na

bakla.

Regine Velasquez talagang

diyosa nila yan. Diba?

Siguro nung panahon niya

para siyang ano eh.

Para siyang

ka-level niya, si na Whitney Houston,

si na Mariah Carey,

nung panahon na yun sa pagiging

gay icon.

Feeling ko, back then,

kung si Mariah Carey, parang

inutusan niya yung mga

yung mga gays dati,

na parang, atakihin niya yan!

Diba? Kumaga, mag-aklas tayo.

Feeling ko, magsasa, mag-ano

talaga eh, mag-a

magsasama-sama at mag-a

aaklas talaga.

Ang lahat ng mga bakla sa mundo

during that time.

And, I think

Regine Velasquez

would have

the same kind of influence

to the gay community,

to LGBT na ngayon.

Diba? I don't know pala.

Kasi sa lesbians,

wala naman akong

alam na mga lesbians

na mahilig kay Regine.

Pero sa mga gays talaga.

Diba?

I suppose with the trans as well.

Diba? So,

medyo, hindi ko alam kung pwede mo sabihing

LGBT.

Si Leia,

meron din yan.

Pero, mas

lamang pa rin kay Regine.

So, yung

parlor culture,

I don't mean it as

anything derogatory

because it really exists.

Meron naman talagang parlor

culture.

Only up to you if you think that is

a positive or a negative.

Okay? All I'm saying is

it exists.

Okay? And,

so, kaya ako

ibinigay kay Regine Velasquez

itong cultural heritage

of the country.

Okay. So,

1-0 Regine Velasquez.

Filipino artistic

accomplishment at the highest level

to promote creative expression

as significant

to the development of

a national cultural

identity.

I suppose both

artists

have their merits

on this criteria.

I would say tabla sila dito.

I would say tabla sila.

Creative

expression, development

of a national cultural identity.

Ang isang

thing kasi kay Regine is

a very distinctly

yung style niya. Okay?

And, like I said,

mas pang masa yung

kanyang, relatively,

hindi lang naman mga masa yung nakaka-appreciate

kay Regine. Okay?

Even yung mga konyo na

mga kolehyala

dati. Nung kapanahon na

namin ay

gusto rin si Regine. Okay?

So, yan si Regine

kasama niya si Nadjaya,

si Lani Misalucha.

But, I would say,

and I don't think anyone

would dispute that amongst

them, Regine was

the queen. Okay? Although,

of course, madami pa rin haters

si Regine. But,

ganun talaga. When you're

at the top, madami ka

talagang magiging haters.

Si Lea Salonga,

I don't think, I don't know

any Lea Salonga haters.

Kung meron man,

they are very few and

they don't even

have the guts

to come out as

a Lea Salonga hater

sa sobrang rare nyo.

Diba? Unless, meron kang,

sometimes she gets bashed

occasionally when it comes to

politics, when it comes to

yung recently may nag-viral siya

na dun sa dressing room

niya. But,

with regards to

her being an artist,

being a singer,

wala. Wala kang masasabi kay

Lea Salonga.

I suppose,

both artists

influence

other singers

in their own ways.

Kasi hindi naman lahat,

unang-una, hindi lahat kayang

kumanta katulad ni Regine.

Kasi this woman's

voice is really something

else. Just source

out of view.

Gumaga, sobrang

taas.

Sobrang powerful ng voice niya.

And while Lea Salonga

is a more technical singer

and a more

tawag dun

deliberate na

execution

yung training niya

sa

opera, sa

opera ba? Or sa theater pala

rather.

Very

methodical.

Si Regine is a powerhouse.

Pop singer.

So, mas

may freedom siya

na gawin yung mga

gusto niyang gawin.

And

I suppose, yun yung

isa pang pwede

mong i-consider dito na

some people would

consider Lea's

singing

a higher form of art

than Regine.

Kasi hindi lang naman

singing.

Singing din yung ginagawa ni Lea.

Actually, dapat may

separate category ang theater.

Diba? Parang tingin ko

dapat sa theater siya. Kasi singing

is only half of what Lea Salonga

does. Diba? Hindi naman siya

basta singer. Uma-acting

din siya while singing.

And that is a totally

different set of skills.

So, actually

now that I've realized

that,

tingin ko

hindi

tamang comparison.

So, let's see kung merong National Artist

Award for Theater.

Award

for Theater.

Theater and Visual Arts.

O, Theater and Film.

So, dun na nang dapat si

si Lea Salonga.

Diba? Teka.

Ano bang nakalagay?

Teka. Mag-Ctrl-F tayo.

Ito pala o.

Theater and Film.

Iba yung Theater and Film sa music.

Ito yung music. Ito, theater

and film. Diba?

So, I think it would be a

disservice to Lea Salonga if you just

put her

in music.

She is an international

theater icon. The best we have

ever produced. And

you're gonna miscategorize her.

Diba? So,

end of discussion. Regine Velasquez.

Regine Velasquez

for music.

Diba? Dun pa lang.

Salonga for Theater and Film.

Dun dapat.

O.

O.

Pero, yan tuloy.

Nabiglang natapos

ang debate. Diba?

So, Theater and Film dapat

si Lea Salonga.

Hindi siya basta sa music.

Ano bang nakalagay dito?

Pero, kung

sa bagay, national artist lang naman

yung tanong dito. Sino kina Lea at

Regine ang deserving maging national

artist? Ang sagot dyan ay pare.

Parehas. Ang tanong lang,

sino ang mas, kung mamimili ka ng

kung sinong gagawin mong national artist

ngayon, sino ang pipiliin mo?

Just to make it fun. Pero,

as we have realized,

hindi parehas ang

pagiging artist nila. One is

exclusively for music

as a singer. And one

is also a singer, but she also

acts while she sings

because she is a theater performer.

So, magkaiba sila.

So, sino ba yung

nabiktima akong

ayup ka? Sino ka?

RLN News

Nationwide. Magkakomment ako

dyan. Ayup ka.

So,

Filipino artists who have dedicated

their lives to their works to forge

new paths and directions for future

generations of Filipino artists.

Dito sa

category

C, tingin ko

panalo pa rin si Regine.

Regine Velasquez. Kasi

you could just

see it. An entire

generation of singers

singing like Regine

Velasquez. From Sara

Geronimo to

si Katrina Velarde.

Ang dami niyang clone.

Sara Geronimo is her own

artist. Probably a

future national artist as well.

But

at the

start of her career,

she was heavily influenced by

the mighty

Regine Velasquez.

And ano pa ba?

And ang dami.

Sharing Regis.

Yung mga

yung mga

like I said, an entire generation

of Filipino singers

sang like Regine

because of

how

amazing Regine's talent

and contributions were.

So kalimutan na muna natin yung mga

intriga

sa buhay niya.

Huwag na natin isama yun. Let's just talk about

the artistry.

And you can make

up a case na hindi

lahat ng kanta niya

were originals

or sometimes

may mga

seasons na parang

parang wala lang.

Diba?

Kasi may mga nauso kasi yung mga revivals.

So I think those were

the times na hindi ako masyadong natuwa

kay Regine. But then

after

she started collaborating with

her husband, yung

mga kanta ni Ogie,

naging original

ulit ang mga kanta ni Regine Velasquez

and it was

a glorious face

for her. Okay, while

Leia had always been a

stalwart in

the international scene,

in theater, she is revered

by the most respected

people in theater all around

the world. So what more

can you ask for? Leia Salonga

is the shit. And

again,

good news, hindi na natin kailangang

pagpilian kung sino

ang magiging national artist

sa kanilang dalawa. Pareha silang

pwedeng maging national artist

sa 2025 dahil

si Regine ay pwedeng maging

national artist for music.

Kaya ay pwedeng maging national artist

for theater and the arts.

Okay, so that settles

it. Okay!

Paalam paalam!