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Hello everyone, it's Tuesday, April 9 here in Manila.
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I'm Karen Davila giving you the Head Start for the day.
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Our guests for Hot Copy today, it's an honor to have them back on the Head Start.
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We have Philippine Ambassador to the United States, Jose Manuel Romualdez,
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as we turn our focus to the upcoming trilateral summit between the United States, the Philippines, and Japan.
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And later on, we have Commodore J. Targuela of the Philippine Coast Guard.
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He'll be joining us for our second Hot Copy.
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But first, the headlines.
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Today's big stories.
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China slams the upcoming trilateral summit between the U.S., Philippines, and Japan.
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Vice President Sarah Duterte still mum on the West Philippine issue.
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And a deadlock in the talks for a ceasefire in Gaza with Israel setting a date for its invasion of Rapa.
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China taking a swipe at the upcoming trilateral summit.
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India taking a swipe at the upcoming trilateral summit.
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China taking a swipe at the upcoming trilateral summit.
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coming trilateral summit of the United States, the Philippines, and Japan.
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Beijing's foreign ministry says China is against any circles that threaten regional peace and stability.
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We oppose relevant countries cobbling together exclusionary small circles and creating block confrontations.
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Japan in particularly should learn from the lessons of history
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and be cautious in its words and deeds in the field of military security.
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Any cooperation conducted by any countries should be conducive to regional peace and stability.
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Beijing also singled out Washington, saying it firmly opposes the U.S. attempt to deploy a medium-range missile system in the Asia-Pacific region.
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We have no interest in competing with any country on military policy.
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China firmly opposes the U.S.'s practice of deploying medium-range missiles in the Asia-Pacific region
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and strengthening forward deployments at China's doorstep to seek unilateral military advantages.
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We urge the United States to earnestly respect the security concerns of other countries
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and stop undermining regional peace and stability.
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Meanwhile, President Marcos Jr. hopes maritime tensions,
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along with China, will be tempered after Manila's weekend naval drills with three of its allies.
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Bianca Dava reports.
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President Ferdinand Marcos Jr. expressed hope that Chinese aggression in the West Philippine Sea
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would be avoided following the first-ever multilateral maritime cooperative activity in the West Philippine Sea on Sunday.
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The exercises involved the armed forces of the Philippines, BRP Gregorio del Pilar, BRP Antonio Luna,
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BRP Valentin Diaz, with the naval and air assets of the United States Indo-Pacific Command,
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Australian Defence Force, and Japan's Self-Defense Forces.
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The President also gave the assurance that Philippine officials continue to talk to their Chinese counterparts
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so that tension in the region would no longer escalate.
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We continue to talk at the ministerial level, at the sub-ministerial level, at the people-to-people level.
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We are doing everything.
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We are doing everything.
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So that the Chinese leadership, the Beijing leadership, can talk to each other.
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We don't want to make it too heated.
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So we will talk to each other so that there will be peace, there will be peace, there will be peace.
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The Department of National Defense stressed the MMCA was a show of unity among the four countries
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rather than a show of force against China, something also undertaken by other nations.
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The objective was to strengthen.
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Our cooperative activities with our partners, essentially our ally, the U.S., in this instance, Japan and Australia.
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And we wanted to strengthen our regional and international cooperation with them.
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And of course, enhance our interoperability.
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What we wanted to do here is to uphold the freedom of navigation and overflight.
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And we wanted to stress in the MCA.
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The respect for our maritime rights under international law, namely UNCLOS.
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Japan's defense minister says the South China Sea issue is directly related to peace and stability.
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He adds, Japan opposes any unilateral changes to the status quo and any actions that increase maritime tensions.
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For U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, Washington's activities with its allies underscore their shared commitment
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to ensure all countries have a safe and equal future.
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All countries are free to fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows.
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Communication exercises, division tactics, and anti-submarine warfare drills were conducted during the activity.
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The anti-submarine warfare drill is actually just sensing if there are underwater vessels.
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AFP Chief of Staff General Romeo Bronner Jr. confirmed,
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two peoples liberated.
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The Federation Army Navy vessels were seen some six nautical miles away from the exercise area.
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We noticed the presence of two PLA Navy ships in the distance.
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Pero wala naman pong ginawa itong mga Navy ships na ito para i-block or hadlangan yung ginagawa nating mga exercises.
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So tuloy-tuloy naman, naging tuloy-tuloy, naging successful yung ating multinational maritime cooperation.
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Kaya naman na nalang nalang akit-akit.
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We were able to achieve all the objectives that we have set forth.
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I can also assume that they are also performing freedom of navigation on their own terms.
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But I have no information as to that if they were moving or I have no information also as to what they were doing there in the area.
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China earlier said its PLA Southern Theater Command also organized naval and air combat patrols in the South China Sea
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in the South China Sea.
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that the MMCA was conducted.
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But Bronner said they have not seen
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any Chinese activities in the area.
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Narinig natin na yung China daw
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ay magsasagawa rin ng kanilang combat patrols.
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Pero sa nakita natin pag-monitor dun sa area,
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wala naman pong ganong nangyari.
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Wala naman ginawang mga combat patrol
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or mga exercises.
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Although future MCAs are yet to be scheduled,
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the Defense Department said
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the Philippines is ready and open
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to conduct such activities with its allies,
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partners, and like-minded nations.
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Bianca Dava, ABS-CBN News.
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All right, joining us now on Hot Copy,
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we have with us Philippine Ambassador
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to the United States,
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Jose Manuel Ramaldez.
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Ambassador Ramaldez, good morning to you, sir.
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Good morning, Karen.
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Thank you very much for inviting me.
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All right, with the upcoming historic
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Trilateral Summit this April 11 and 12
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in the United States,
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China had already issued a statement
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and said that it opposes relevant countries
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cobbling together in what it described,
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Ambassador, as exclusionary small circles
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creating bloc confrontations.
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Are we doing that?
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The President has made it very clear
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from the very beginning
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that he would like to have a multilateral approach
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to any situation that we are facing right now
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in the West Philippine Sea
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or the South China Sea,
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whatever you want to call it.
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The bottom line is that we are getting together
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with many of our friends and allies
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who believe in the same rule of law,
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the international waters
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that is obviously important for any country,
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like-minded country,
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and many other countries
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that are now joining us
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in the fact that we have the arbitration case
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that was decided in favor of the Philippines.
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That's all we're doing here,
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a multilateral approach.
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We are not doing anything
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that is outside of the ordinary
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that we feel is important for us.
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And again, I'd like to emphasize
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the President would like to see
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a multilateral approach
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into trying to solve the situation
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in the West Philippines.
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Now, the President will be visiting
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the United States this coming April 10,
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and this is his fourth U.S. visit.
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Within that visit is the Trilateral Summit.
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How historical is this?
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Is this the first of its kind?
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This is the first time
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that an invitation like this
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was sent out to both Japan and the Philippines
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by the White House.
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It is something that I think
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is not only historical
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but momentous in one sense
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because this trilateral meeting
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not only encompasses the defense
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the Indo-Pacific region,
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but also the cooperation,
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the economic cooperation
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that we are putting together
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with both Japan and the United States.
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This is definitely going to be
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not only good for the Philippines
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but good for the Indo-Pacific region.
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This will actually define
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the future of what our area
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will be like in the future.
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Now, what are the expectations?
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When the President arrives in the U.S.
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he'll first have a bilateral meeting
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with U.S. President Joe Biden.
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The meeting will take place.
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President Biden has invited
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President Marcos for a meeting with him
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at the White House on April 11,
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and shortly after that,
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the Prime Minister of Japan
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will be joining them
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in a trilateral summit meeting.
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So, the trilateral summit meeting
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happens after the bilateral meeting.
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And then, is there another trilateral meeting
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with Cabinet officials
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coming from the Philippines?
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Actually, there will be simultaneously,
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well, almost on the same day
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and then perhaps the next day,
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we will have trilateral meetings
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between our Secretary of National Defense,
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our Secretary of State,
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the Department of Defense
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of the United States,
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and also the Ministry of Defense
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Together with that,
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we will also have Secretary of State
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and the Secretary of Foreign Affairs
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will also have a meeting at the same time.
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And then, on the economic side,
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we will have the Department of Trade,
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and the Commerce Secretary
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will also have a meeting separately
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to discuss all the aspects
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of our relationship
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with both Japan and the United States.
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So, this trilateral meeting,
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does it only or solely focus
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on the issues of the West Philippine Sea?
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Or is that the main focus?
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it is really not,
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it's very unfortunate
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that China looks at this
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that is directed towards them.
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the trilateral meeting
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is mainly a cooperation
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of the United States
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of three countries
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that believe that it is in their interest
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that we have this very strong cooperation.
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Not necessarily on defense alone,
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the economic cooperation.
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And there are many aspects
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of the economic cooperation that we have,
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like the clean energy,
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All of these things
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are part and parcel
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of what we see as important
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for the three countries.
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there are other countries
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that most likely will be joining in
12:56.9
the President is also being criticized
12:59.1
for actually escalating
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tensions with China.
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I want to ask you,
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the fact that he's visiting
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the United States
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for the fourth time.
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Some critics have said,
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shouldn't the President
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with ASEAN leaders,
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instead of always
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leaning towards the United States
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when it comes to our maritime issues
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in the West Philippine Sea?
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that is absolutely not true.
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President Marcos has reached out
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to many of our ASEAN neighbors,
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specifically Vietnam,
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He has met with all the other presidents.
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we have overlapping claims
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in the same area,
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but we are talking to them,
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meaning the President himself
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has indicated that he would like
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to see some cooperation
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with these other countries.
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The United States
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is an old ally of the Philippines,
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and there's no question about it.
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nobody can question the fact
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that we have been
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with the United States
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for a very long time.
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This is a country that feels
14:08.2
that if they can help us,
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especially since it also jibes
14:12.9
with their own national interests,
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then it is only natural for us
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to have this type of defense strategy
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with the United States.
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The United States
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on many occasions,
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not only to President Marcos,
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but to other presidents as well
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that we would like to have
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a stronger relationship.
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the Visiting Forces Agreement
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was signed during the time of what,
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and then there was the EDCA,
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which was signed during the time
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of the late President Noynoy Aquino.
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is part and parcel
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of what President Marcos
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is just simply continuing
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this relationship
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that we have with the United States.
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And the fact that he's been invited
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to come to the United States
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doesn't really mean
14:59.3
that he comes here
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because we are trying to lean
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just totally with the United States.
15:05.4
As he has clearly said,
15:07.4
multilateral approach
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to the problems in the region
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is the foreign policy
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that he has already spelled out.
15:21.0
Now, how did this trilateral
15:23.6
summit come to be?
15:25.2
Who actually called
15:26.8
or asked for the summit?
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Because China's also reacted
15:30.6
to Japan and said
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that Japan should already learn
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its lessons from history.
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So how did this trilateral
15:38.5
summit come to be, sir?
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in fact, I was with the President
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the ASEAN meeting
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in Indonesia, in Jakarta.
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there was a side meeting
15:55.1
between Prime Minister Kishida,
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President Marcos,
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and Vice President Kamala Harris.
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It was actually during that meeting
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that they were saying
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that we should try to look for ways
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and means to cooperate together
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in finding ways to be able
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not only to resolve
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some of the issues
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surrounding the West Philippine Sea
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or the South China Sea,
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but more importantly,
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a stronger cooperation
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in the economic sphere.
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that was the takeoff.
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And President Biden,
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he's facing an election now.
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that perhaps inviting
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both President Marcos
16:33.5
and Prime Minister Kishida
16:35.2
to a summit in Washington, D.C.
16:36.8
would be a perfect time
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especially at this juncture
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where we have all these challenges.
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Now, the Philippines
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or our Philippine Navy,
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our Philippine personnel
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has been experiencing
16:51.1
what's been described
16:53.6
anti-zone tactics.
16:56.6
Some have described it
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to actually trigger
17:02.2
the Mutual Defense Treaty.
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What are our expectations
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that would actually change
17:12.4
in the West Philippine Sea?
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I think our Defense Department
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has said it on many occasions
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that they are doing
17:23.1
maximum tolerance
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or maximum restraint.
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We are doing everything we can.
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As the President just said
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in that clip that you had,
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that he would like to find ways
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and means to continue
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to be able to have a dialogue
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The baseline being
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that we have to recognize
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the fact that we are
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protecting merely our territories.
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The President has said
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on many occasions
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what he is supposed to do
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to protect the territory
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of the Philippines.
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That is his duty.
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It's a constitutional duty.
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talking to other friends
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who work in the same,
18:11.6
who are thinking the same way.
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They respect our territory.
18:14.5
At the same time,
18:15.8
they are supporting
18:17.5
the arbitral award
18:18.5
that was given to the Philippines.
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on the freedom of navigation,
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international law,
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and the rule of law,
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and at the same time,
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which was agreed upon.
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China is a member of the
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They are signatory to that.
18:41.8
So, we're just merely
18:45.3
put together here,
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we can talk about other issues.
18:52.7
Now, in terms of this
18:54.5
trilateral cooperation,
18:56.8
retired Senior Associate Justice
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that the litmus test
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oil in the reed bank.
19:09.1
Now, Malaysia's already
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done their own exploration
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without having to ask
19:13.4
permission from China.
19:16.4
it's been a few years,
19:18.1
and several observers
19:22.7
president actually do it?
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Is this part of the discussions
19:27.8
in the trilateral summit?
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I don't think it will be discussed,
19:34.3
when we're talking about energy,
19:35.9
that will be part and parcel
19:37.2
of that particular subject
19:40.8
on the energy exploration.
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we are doing it in Malampaya,
19:47.4
and the president is very keen
19:50.0
on really increasing our energy,
19:52.2
our sources of energy
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and exploring that,
19:58.6
exploration of those resources
20:00.7
in the West Philippine Sea
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is part and parcel of that plan.
20:06.1
When that will be
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something that we're still looking at.
20:09.6
The Department of Energy
20:11.6
with potential investors
20:13.6
and potential partners
20:18.9
for that particular exploration.
20:22.2
But let me also point out,
20:24.4
that the United States
20:26.1
has also encouraged
20:28.7
many of the nations in the area
20:31.3
to get together precisely to,
20:35.4
especially the ASEAN countries
20:37.1
with overlapping claims,
20:38.7
to come out with some kind of a cooperation
20:41.3
where we will be able to explore this area
20:44.7
of the ASEAN region,
20:47.0
and we can be ready to talk
20:48.5
to even China about this.
20:50.5
Actually, what's interesting,
20:52.1
I'm sorry to interrupt you,
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Well, like I said,
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we are finding ways
21:00.3
and means to be able
21:01.4
to use these resources
21:05.1
for the benefit of everyone.
21:09.9
and also even protecting the environment.
21:14.1
Protecting the environment
21:15.1
means protecting everyone else.
21:17.5
We know what climate change can do,
21:20.7
these are the some,
21:22.1
these are the very same things
21:23.2
that we have been pointing out
21:25.1
to our friends in the region
21:30.1
we have had no response,
21:32.9
no positive response.
21:35.7
during the time of former President Duterte,
21:37.9
I remember former Foreign Affairs Secretary
21:41.1
Alan Cayetano told me on Head Start,
21:43.7
there was a moratorium on exploration.
21:47.5
But the bigger question now,
21:49.0
since President Marcos Jr. has gone this way,
21:51.3
President Marcos Jr. has gone this way,
21:51.5
President Marcos Jr. has gone this way,
21:53.1
why isn't exploration his main agenda?
21:58.4
That would make a difference
21:59.8
in terms of his legacy
22:02.0
and walking the talk, right?
22:04.5
Why isn't it the main agenda?
22:06.8
Because the Constitution allows us to contract
22:10.3
a third part for exploration.
22:12.7
Why isn't it actually a part of the talks?
22:16.4
Well, it's not yet part of the talks,
22:19.1
but I can tell you that precisely,
22:21.2
we are doing what we're doing right now,
22:24.3
getting together with our friends and allies
22:27.5
to be able to protect our area.
22:30.7
But then together with that,
22:32.0
obviously is to make sure that the areas
22:35.1
that we are going to explore,
22:36.8
which belongs to us,
22:38.4
will have no problem or will have no hindrance
22:40.9
or any kind of aggressive behavior
22:42.8
coming from other countries.
22:44.3
And again, you know, Karen,
22:45.6
let me just point out the kind of the wrong way of thinking,
22:51.2
but for many years,
22:54.1
since the early 90s or even before that,
22:57.7
we have been patient,
23:01.1
we have been accepting most of the things
23:03.1
that have been happening in that area.
23:06.3
You know, we had people in the Scarborough Shoal,
23:13.3
we left and the Chinese remained there.
23:17.0
And up to this day, our fishermen are not allowed to go into areas where they have been.
23:20.2
And up to this day, our fishermen are not allowed to go into areas where they have been.
23:21.2
And up to this day, our fishermen are not allowed to go into areas where they have been.
23:22.7
So we have been fishing for so many years.
23:23.7
Now, what do you expect us to do?
23:25.0
Just simply sit around and just simply say,
23:27.1
go ahead and do this.
23:29.8
And so President Marcos has made it very clear
23:32.2
that he would like to look at our friends and allies
23:34.8
to be able to bond together
23:38.0
and at the same time,
23:39.6
try to find ways and means to have a dialogue.
23:42.3
But we need to have some kind of a muscle,
23:46.0
for lack of any other word,
23:47.5
to be able to implement what we have said,
23:50.0
that we will protect.
23:50.7
That we will protect.
23:51.2
Now, Ambassador, the United States is the only treaty partner of the Philippines.
23:59.0
What are we expecting from Japan in these talks?
24:02.0
Of course, strengthening trilateral cooperation.
24:06.0
That's the umbrella expectation.
24:08.9
But when it comes to the details, what are we hoping for?
24:13.7
Well, Japan and the United States have come out with an agreement now
24:17.0
that Japan will be actually manufacturing many of the things,
24:23.5
the defense equipment.
24:28.7
They're also into ship buildings.
24:30.7
They have opened up their manufacturing of the ships, perhaps.
24:38.6
And so we are going to be part of that arrangement
24:41.8
where we will be able to acquire that.
24:45.3
Some of them will probably be built
24:46.9
in the United States.
24:47.0
Some of them will probably be built in our Subic Bay area,
24:48.4
which also has a ship building facility there.
24:54.1
So this cooperation is going to help us modernize
24:57.1
not only our armed forces, our Air Force,
25:00.3
but also our Navy and our Coast Guard.
25:04.0
All of this, again, let me emphasize,
25:06.6
this is all part and parcel of what we are just doing
25:09.8
to defend ourselves from any aggression
25:12.7
that's coming from other countries.
25:17.0
What is the reaction of the Philippine government?
25:20.1
And I think moving forward,
25:22.1
as China has said that it will hold its own drills
25:26.7
in response to the Quad exercises in the West Philippine Sea.
25:32.9
Well, as long as they are doing it in the international waters,
25:40.0
obviously they can do that.
25:43.0
But we have come out with our own,
25:46.7
our own cooperation with the other countries,
25:50.6
Australia, Japan, and the United States
25:52.9
to be able to do our own drills.
25:55.7
And again, all of this is,
25:57.8
the bottom line is we are just out
26:00.2
to defend our national interests.
26:04.3
Now, you have the United States, Australia,
26:07.8
President Marcos Jr. is clearly engaging
26:11.7
with these countries,
26:13.1
but none of these countries are stakeholders.
26:15.4
And some have said the United States,
26:18.3
another superpower is in the West,
26:20.4
not our neighbor.
26:21.6
Are we lacking as a country already in terms of engaging
26:26.6
and forming stronger ties really with other stakeholders
26:33.4
in the South China Sea issue?
26:35.4
Not at all, Karen.
26:37.4
As I said, the President has reached out to our ASEAN neighbors,
26:41.6
particularly Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia,
26:46.2
All are claimants of the same area,
26:48.8
are overlapping claims.
26:50.7
And we have succeeded at least at the very least
26:54.0
for them to really seriously look into ways and means
26:57.6
to be able to cooperate in protecting the environment.
27:02.2
But then, you have some observers.
27:05.9
A political analyst once told me
27:07.8
that what President Marcos Jr. is doing won't help
27:12.0
in the sense that ASEAN is very non-confrontational.
27:15.1
So other countries with the same issues against China
27:20.7
are handling it quite differently.
27:22.7
They've said that this is not the manner
27:26.7
in handling China at its best.
27:30.7
I'm rephrasing this, of course, Ambassador,
27:33.2
but I think you'll understand.
27:35.2
This was an interview with Professor Banlawi.
27:38.2
What are your thoughts?
27:40.2
Well, that's also not quite true.
27:42.2
If you remember, there was even,
27:44.2
there was one time,
27:46.2
I don't know how long ago this was,
27:48.2
but Indonesia actually sunk one of the ships of the Chinese
27:52.2
because they were within their waters.
27:54.2
Vietnam has also very strongly and courageously fought off
27:59.2
many of these incursions that they were doing in their area.
28:02.2
We have been very patient.
28:04.2
The Filipino patience has been stretched to the limit.
28:09.2
What President Marcos is doing is just simply
28:12.2
saying that enough is enough.
28:14.2
We are now going to talk to you seriously.
28:17.2
We are not here because we want to have a conflict.
28:20.2
We're not here because we just want to have,
28:23.2
we're looking for a fight.
28:25.2
We are the ones that are being aggressively bullied.
28:30.2
And so what are we going to do?
28:32.2
The Filipino people will not stand for that.
28:35.2
And I think that's clearly on all the surveys that are coming out,
28:39.2
the Filipino people are all behind,
28:42.2
not only President Marcos,
28:43.2
but behind the country as well.
28:46.2
So we can't continue to be like this, Karen.
28:49.2
Otherwise, you know,
28:51.2
people who have this wrong notion that we'll just sit back
28:54.2
and nothing will happen to us,
28:56.2
we may wake up one day and we won't have a country anymore.
29:01.2
You make very interesting points,
29:03.2
especially about the behavior of Indonesia and Vietnam at one point.
29:08.2
So the Philippines is now pushing back.
29:11.2
But is the President ready?
29:12.2
Is the President ready for the consequences or the repercussions?
29:17.2
During the time of the late President Noynoy Aquino,
29:21.2
we've seen how China has supposedly,
29:26.2
in a way, there have been sanctions when it came to,
29:29.2
informal sanctions when it came to our export of bananas,
29:33.2
or even the lessening number of Chinese tourists in the country.
29:37.2
How is the President going to pivot?
29:40.2
Considering that may happen again?
29:45.2
The President, again, has made the right move.
29:51.2
He has reached out not only to the United States,
29:54.2
not only to our ASEAN neighbors,
29:57.2
or even to Japan in economic security,
30:02.2
but he has even gone as far as the European Union.
30:06.2
We are going, the President that is,
30:09.2
his policy is economic prosperity means economic security.
30:14.2
And that is what he's been doing.
30:16.2
Again, people have the wrong notion that he's going gallivanting,
30:19.2
traveling all over.
30:20.2
The President's tired of traveling, to be honest about it.
30:23.2
In fact, he was really,
30:24.2
he wasn't very keen about coming to Washington again.
30:27.2
But he knows how important this trip is.
30:30.2
So he has to do what he needs to do
30:33.2
to protect ourselves from any future problems
30:37.2
that may become a real problem.
30:39.2
A real major problem for us
30:41.2
if we don't do anything about it now.
30:44.2
And so defense is one of them.
30:46.2
But as you mentioned, economic security is very important.
30:49.2
And the President is doing exactly that.
30:52.2
And because of that,
30:53.2
we are obviously getting more investments.
30:56.2
People, again, are saying,
30:57.2
no, you're not getting anything out of this.
30:59.2
That's not, absolutely not true.
31:01.2
The recent visit, for instance,
31:03.2
of a big delegation headed by
31:06.2
Commerce Secretary Gina Raymundo of the United States.
31:09.2
That is a clear indication
31:11.2
that the United States is committed
31:13.2
to precisely do what it said it will do,
31:16.2
is to not necessarily to help us,
31:19.2
but to find ways and means
31:21.2
to have a stronger economic cooperation.
31:23.2
And that's exactly what we are also doing right now
31:25.2
with this trilateral summit that is taking place.
31:28.2
Japan is prepared to also come in
31:31.2
and invest not only in the Philippines,
31:33.2
but to help us in bringing up.
31:36.2
They are investing heavily into our infrastructure.
31:39.2
The subway system, the ports,
31:42.2
many other things that are going to be happening
31:44.2
in the next couple of years.
31:46.2
And all of this is not going to happen
31:48.2
in one sweep or one, you know, a magic wand.
31:52.2
It'll happen successively in the next couple of years.
31:56.2
And we can expect that.
31:58.2
And that is exactly what the President is doing.
32:00.2
It may not happen during his time.
32:02.2
I mean, the economic prosperity that we're looking at,
32:05.2
but we are now planting the seeds
32:07.2
and it's going to come out.
32:08.2
I'm very confident about that.
32:10.2
And many people are also.
32:12.2
In fact, I was just talking to Secretary Recto.
32:15.2
He sees that there will be the economic growth
32:17.2
in the Philippines will be about 6.5%
32:20.2
with foreign investments coming in successfully
32:24.2
in the next couple of years,
32:26.2
all the way up to 2028
32:28.2
when the President's term ends.
32:31.2
Before we end, I wanted to ask you
32:34.2
and follow up on the trade mission.
32:37.2
Of course, more than the trade mission,
32:40.2
I believe it was billions of dollars, right,
32:43.2
in investments in the Philippines.
32:46.2
But the President's previous visits,
32:51.2
I know that he either formed a committee or a group
32:55.2
to actually follow up on these promises
32:58.2
to make sure that they come into fruition.
33:02.2
What's happened with that, Ambassador?
33:04.2
Well, we have now Frederick Nguyen,
33:07.2
who is now the Presidential Assistant,
33:10.2
precisely to follow up on all these investments.
33:13.2
And I think the Secretary Nguyen is at one point in time.
33:17.2
Right now, he's still working hard on it.
33:20.2
In fact, he won't be able to come to Washington, D.C.,
33:23.2
although we encourage him to do so.
33:25.2
But he's quite busy precisely putting together
33:27.2
all of these things.
33:29.2
And before, I would assume
33:31.2
that before the President speaks in July
33:33.2
for his State of the Nation address,
33:36.2
you can expect him to report
33:38.2
on what are these major investments
33:40.2
that have come into the Philippines
33:42.2
and what we can expect in the future.
33:44.2
Right now, Karen, to be honest about it,
33:46.2
I'm hearing something like a hundred billion.
33:48.2
I mean, that's quite a large amount of money
33:51.2
that is being considered for investments
33:53.2
into the Philippines and the Philippine economy
33:56.2
in the next five to ten years.
33:58.2
Now, all of that is because we are now going out of our way
34:04.2
to make sure that the Philippines
34:06.2
is ready, it is a secure place to invest.
34:10.2
And having these relationships with like-minded countries,
34:13.2
including the European Union,
34:15.2
where they're very supportive of all of the Philippines,
34:19.2
is now looking into investing in our part of the world.
34:23.2
And the Philippines happens to be in the center of Asia.
34:27.2
You know, former President Trump said
34:29.2
that the most expensive real estate in Asia
34:32.2
is the Philippines because we are right in the center.
34:36.2
On that note, I want to thank you so much
34:39.2
for joining me today.
34:40.2
And good luck with the Trilateral Summit, sir.
34:43.2
We'd love to hear from you again.
34:46.2
Well, thank you very much.
34:47.2
Thank you, Karen.
34:48.2
And I hope that this will be successful for all of us.
34:51.2
Philippine Ambassador to the United States,
34:53.2
Jose Manuel Romualdez.
34:55.2
We're going to take a quick break.
34:57.2
Head Start will be right back.
35:06.2
Welcome back to Head Start.
35:23.2
Let's continue our discussion
35:25.2
on the maritime tensions in the West Philippine Sea.
35:28.2
We're now joined by Philippine Coast Guard spokesperson
35:31.2
for the West Philippine Sea,
35:33.2
Commodore Jay Tariella,
35:35.2
Commodore Tariella, good morning to you.
35:37.2
Good morning, Ms. Karen, and also to your viewers.
35:41.2
The Trilateral Summit in the United States
35:44.2
or with the United States in Japan
35:47.2
comes right after we've conducted our own drills, right?
35:51.2
With the U.S., Japan, and Australia.
35:54.2
Let's talk about the effect of such drills.
35:59.2
You've heard already a scathing response
36:03.2
from China regarding this.
36:08.2
I think it's very important for us to note
36:10.2
that even without this kind of activities
36:13.2
we had with the United States
36:15.2
or any other like-minded countries,
36:17.2
the level of tension and provocation
36:19.2
of the Chinese has always been the same.
36:21.2
They would still harass our Filipino fishermen,
36:23.2
their supply operation will always be hampered
36:26.2
by their Coast Guard vessels,
36:28.2
and they're still going to carry out dangerous maneuver
36:31.2
towards the Philippine Coast Guard vessels.
36:35.2
with or without this kind of activities
36:37.2
that we're doing,
36:39.2
Chinese has always been increasing the tension.
36:42.2
But the other good side of it is that
36:44.2
it's not just the Philippines
36:46.2
who is contesting or criticizing
36:48.2
these illegal actions of China.
36:50.2
And it's not just,
36:51.2
we're not just limited with our traditional allies.
36:53.2
Since we started this transparency strategy,
36:56.2
more countries are standing up,
36:58.2
more countries are extending security cooperation
37:01.2
with the armed forces of the Philippines
37:03.2
and willing to have this kind of activity
37:05.2
in the West Philippine Sea.
37:10.2
You did mention that,
37:13.2
three PLA vessels were discovered or were sent.
37:19.2
Can you expound on that
37:23.2
in terms of the circumstances surrounding it?
37:27.2
Because that is the latest.
37:30.2
Well, I'm not really sure
37:32.2
as to when are you referring, Miss Karen,
37:34.2
but there are a lot of PLA sightings
37:36.2
that we already did.
37:37.2
Like for example,
37:38.2
with the last resupply mission,
37:40.2
we were able to monitor
37:42.2
as many as four or five PLA Navy vessel.
37:46.2
And then this time,
37:47.2
during the Payao laying,
37:49.2
the floating aggregate device
37:51.2
that we dropped in Rizul Reef,
37:53.2
we also monitored the PLA Navy vessel.
37:55.2
So there are sightings already
37:58.2
of the People's Liberation Army Navy warship.
38:01.2
But all of these warships are not,
38:03.2
directly engaging the Philippine Coast Guard
38:06.2
or even the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.
38:09.2
There are still just a bit afar
38:11.2
from our operation.
38:14.2
we can monitor them too later.
38:19.2
It's important to measure
38:23.2
if there's an improvement
38:25.2
or if we are in a situation
38:27.2
that's actually getting worse.
38:30.2
Compared to the administration
38:32.2
of former President Duterte to today,
38:35.2
where President Marcos Jr.
38:37.2
has a different foreign policy,
38:40.2
Compared to his predecessor,
38:42.2
would you say there are more Chinese vessels
38:45.2
in the West Philippine Sea or less?
38:48.2
Well, first of all, Miss Karen,
38:51.2
I think we should also understand
38:53.2
before we highlight the number of the vessels
38:56.2
of the Chinese being deployed
38:57.2
in the West Philippine Sea,
38:58.2
that this kind of harassment
39:01.2
has also been happening
39:02.2
during the time of President Duterte.
39:04.2
The only reason why we're not talking about it
39:06.2
is because we didn't choose to publicize it.
39:10.2
You know, the public,
39:11.2
the media outlets
39:13.2
are not telling the public about it
39:15.2
because we choose to be silent about it.
39:17.2
So in terms of those kind of activities
39:19.2
and illegal presence of China,
39:21.2
this has been happening
39:22.2
even during the time of President Duterte.
39:25.2
But going back to your question,
39:27.2
are there more vessels now
39:28.2
compared with the number of vessels
39:30.2
that Chinese vessels that are deployed
39:32.2
in President Duterte's time,
39:34.2
we can fairly say there is an increase.
39:37.2
But again, this is in relation
39:40.2
with our response of transparency
39:42.2
telling the world about their kind of harassment.
39:45.2
But in general, still,
39:47.2
you know, the level of provocation of China
39:51.2
remains to be the same.
39:52.2
The only difference is that
39:53.2
they don't need to send more vessels
39:55.2
because in the first place,
39:56.2
we have already told it.
39:58.2
We have already told the Filipino people
40:00.2
that we cannot do anything about it.
40:03.2
if they're going to send like two Coast Guard vessels
40:05.2
or one PLA Navy vessel,
40:07.2
they have already attained their objective.
40:09.2
But for our president now
40:11.2
who choose to publicize
40:12.2
and expose this kind of illegal actions,
40:14.2
they need to flex more muscle
40:17.2
for them to threaten us.
40:18.2
And that's the reason and the explanation
40:22.2
why China has more vessel deployment now
40:25.2
in the West Philippine Sea
40:26.2
compared with the previous administration.
40:30.2
That's quite interesting.
40:31.2
Now, let's get into detail.
40:33.2
Atty. Harry Roque was on KidStart
40:36.2
and he criticized what he described as
40:39.2
the microphone diplomacy of this administration.
40:44.2
So, I wanted to ask you specifically
40:46.2
with Ayungin Shoal.
40:49.2
there was a lot of talk of Ayungin Shoal
40:51.2
in terms of rehabilitating the BRP Sierra Madre, right?
40:56.2
What is the status of the BRP Sierra Madre
40:59.2
today, right now?
41:01.2
When was our last resupply mission
41:04.2
and when will the next be?
41:06.2
Well, to respond to your earlier question,
41:11.2
the last resupply mission is March 23.
41:14.2
And as to the next resupply mission,
41:17.2
it still depends on the Armed Forces of the Philippines
41:19.2
whenever they're going to conduct that.
41:21.2
And since the Coast Guard is just supporting
41:25.2
this military operation in BRP Sierra Madre.
41:28.2
But let me go back to the comment
41:30.2
of Atty. Harry Roque.
41:32.2
You know, people like Atty. Harry Roque
41:37.2
and some of the Chinese trolls online
41:39.2
has always been blaming this,
41:41.2
what they call, microphone diplomacy.
41:44.2
But as far as the national government is concerned,
41:47.2
this is not a microphone diplomacy.
41:49.2
This is an information strategy
41:51.2
that we choose to expose
41:53.2
the factual narrative of what's happening.
41:56.2
They are claiming that this kind of
41:58.2
strategy provokes China and escalates the tension.
42:01.2
But that's not the way it is.
42:03.2
The mere fact that more countries now
42:05.2
are standing up and supporting the Philippines
42:07.2
and more Filipino people
42:09.2
are also supportive of our approach,
42:11.2
that's the very objective of this strategy.
42:13.2
Not to provoke anybody
42:15.2
and not to escalate the tension.
42:18.2
I'm curious, within the area
42:21.2
of BRP Sierra Madre,
42:24.2
is the Philippine Coast Guard constantly
42:28.2
patrolling the area?
42:30.2
Or do we have a vessel on standby
42:32.2
near the BRP Sierra Madre?
42:34.2
Well, Ms. Karen, to be honest about it,
42:36.2
the Philippine Coast Guard
42:38.2
at any one time has three Coast Guard vessels
42:40.2
deployed in Palawan
42:42.2
and it patrols the entire vast sea area
42:45.2
of the West Philippine Sea.
42:47.2
Clearly, that's not enough, right?
42:50.2
Clearly, that's not enough.
42:53.2
But of course, we have our own way
42:57.2
We have, you know,
42:58.2
the Canadian government has been very nice
43:01.2
to support us with the dark vessel detection.
43:03.2
And of course, our other allies
43:05.2
has also supported us,
43:06.2
satellite imagery of what's really happening
43:09.2
in different parts of our West Philippine Sea.
43:12.2
So we can fairly monitor whatever is happening
43:15.2
in the deployment of the PLA Navy
43:18.2
or even the Chinese Coast Guard,
43:20.2
the Chinese maritime militia,
43:22.2
where are the areas that they are swarming.
43:24.2
Those kind of information at real time
43:26.2
our national government is pretty much aware
43:29.2
even if we have a very limited number
43:31.2
of Coast Guard vessels deployed in Palawan.
43:35.2
I'm curious, Commodore,
43:36.2
would you have any information
43:38.2
if during Duterte's time
43:41.2
there was any rehabilitation of BRP Charamadre?
43:45.2
Because this was part of the discussion
43:47.2
that we had with Attorney Harry Roque.
43:50.2
rehabilitate by all means
43:52.2
but don't announce it
43:53.2
or do it in another way.
43:56.2
That's a very delicate question, Miss Karen.
43:58.2
We should ask them, right?
44:00.2
I mean, the rehabilitation has been an issue
44:05.2
has also been raised by Attorney Harry Roque
44:08.2
as one of the provocative reason
44:11.2
why China has been giving us headache
44:13.2
in doing this supply operation.
44:15.2
But as far as the national government is concerned
44:17.2
under this administration,
44:19.2
as what has been mentioned by ADG Jonathan Malaya,
44:22.2
regardless whatever we bring to BRP Charamadre,
44:25.2
whether these are just food,
44:27.2
whether these are just personnel for rotation,
44:29.2
we should not care about what they feel.
44:31.2
This, a union show on board BRP Charamadre
44:36.2
falls within our exclusive economic zone.
44:38.2
So this is not a concern for the national government
44:41.2
as to whatever comments
44:42.2
that they're going to criticize us
44:44.2
that we're bringing in construction materials.
44:46.2
It's beside the point.
44:47.2
We have sovereign rights over these waters.
44:50.2
Regarding their comment,
44:52.2
we don't really care.
44:54.2
We don't really care.
44:56.2
That's interesting.
44:58.2
the Philippine Coast Guard Commodore,
45:00.2
another question is Scarborough Shoal.
45:03.2
What is the status today?
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There's been a lot of talk on Scarborough Shoal,
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especially with my interviews
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with former Senator Antonio Trillanes
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and the commentary of,
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Did we lose Scarborough Shoal?
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You know, that phrase,
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we lost Scarborough Shoal.
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former Senator Antonio Trillanes
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actually disagrees with that statement completely, right?
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So let's go on to what is the status
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of Scarborough Shoal today?
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let me first strengthen
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the statement of Ambassador Valdez this morning
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during his interview.
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He mentioned that in Scarborough Shoal,
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our arrangement is that
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both parties during the standoff will pull out.
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Philippine forces include the Coast Guard,
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the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.
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But the Chinese forces,
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they stayed there.
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there are still Chinese Coast Guard vessels
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inside Bajo de Masinlo for Scarborough.
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Inside Scarborough?
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Inside the Scarborough.
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Would you know how many?
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I responded this already to my previous interviews.
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There were always like two Chinese Coast Guard vessels
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mainstay inside Scarborough Shoal.
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These are the two Chinese Coast Guard vessels
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who have the responsibility in laying out
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the floating barrier every time that they monitor
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a presence of the Philippine government vessel there.
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But let me give you a clear background now
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of what's happening now in Scarborough Shoal.
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During the time of the former administration,
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we have already folded with the idea that,
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we don't need to go near Bajo de Masinlo.
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As far as the Philippine Coast Guard is concerned
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and the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources is concerned,
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we don't really get near PDM.
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As a matter of fact,
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we always maintain like 10 nautical miles
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to 12 nautical miles in patrolling those area.
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recognized that we're not,
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we don't have the ability to go beyond the 10 nautical mile,
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12 nautical mile.
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12 nautical mile of the Chinese Coast Guard who's in that area.
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But for this administration,
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for President Bongbong Marcos,
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going beyond the 12 nautical mile mark,
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10 nautical mile mark,
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until we reach as low as 500 meters away from the pool already,
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from the lagoon already.
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for this administration,
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for President Bongbong Marcos,
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for the Philippine Coast Guard,
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and the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources,
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we can already go to the,
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to Bajo de Masinlo
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as near as 500, 300 meters.
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We are no longer prevented from going beyond that.
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to be honest with you,
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the only problem that we are now experiencing
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whenever we patrol Bajo de Masinlo
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is that we cannot really go inside the lagoon.
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It's very difficult.
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What happens when we try?
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you know for a fact that we already
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removed the barrier
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by a covert operation,
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a special operation
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of the Philippine Coast Guard during the last year,
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the problem now is that
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that the Philippine Coast Guard
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or the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources
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will be supporting our fishermen with,
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there will be additional supplement
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from the Chinese Coast Guard.
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it will be like five
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and then Chinese maritime militia will also be there from eight
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to even 12 Chinese maritime militia.
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And then they would start blocking
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this small opening of the lagoon in Bajo de Masinlo.
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That's the only reason why we are prevented
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in entering the lagoon.
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My last question on this is the relevance to the Filipino people.
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What are the two Chinese vessels inside
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Bajo de Masinlo doing?
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Is it actually setting the stage
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for fishing in Bajo de Masinlo?
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Are the Chinese fishing in Scarborough Shoal
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and the Philippines cannot?
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Because I remember
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during the time of former President Duterte,
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his cabinet members would always say
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because of the peace within the area
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is Filipino fishermen were allowed to fish
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outside the opening of the shoal.
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What is really going on
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inside Scarborough?
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Well, we have released satellite imagery.
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The only vessel that you can find inside the lagoon
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are just the two Chinese coast guard vessels
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guarding inside the lagoon.
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But for the Filipino fishermen,
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we have already interviewed them.
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But are the two Chinese vessels fishing
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or you're talking about really just
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just actually guarding the area?
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They are just there guarding the area,
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preventing the Philippine government
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from entering the lagoon
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and also the Filipino fishermen as well.
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And I think a reminder to all the viewers
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is with the arbitral decision,
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Scarborough Shoal was actually deemed
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as a common fishing ground, right?
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As decided by the arbitral award.
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all countries that fish in the area
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can actually have the right
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to fish in Scarborough Shoal.
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But is it right to say
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no other country does as well?
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Does Vietnam fish in Scarborough?
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Not all countries, Ms. Karin.
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Just three countries.
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Vietnam, Philippines, and China.
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Based on the arbitral award,
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recognized this as a traditional fishing ground.
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And does Vietnam fish in Scarborough today?
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Not that we have monitored.
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Well, on that note,
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anything you'd like to say, Commodore,
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Well, on the part of the Philippine Coast Guard,
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as under the leadership of our Commandant,
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Admiral Ron Gilgaban,
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we're still going to support
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the Armed Forces of the Philippines
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and, of course, the objective of our presence
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for food security.
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You know, Ms. Karin,
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we supported the Bureau of Fisheries
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and Aquatic Resources
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in dropping floating aggregate device
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with a very limited number of the vessels
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that we have in the West Philippine Sea.
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The Filipino people can still rely
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on the Philippine Coast Guard.
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We're not going to be deterred.
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We're not going to yield.
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As what the President has mentioned,
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our presence in the Philippine Coast Guard
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in the West Philippine Sea,
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the Philippine Coast Guard
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can assure the Filipino people
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that despite of the provocation
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and the illegal action of the Chinese Coast Guard,
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we're still going to deal with them professionally
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and we're not going to be the reason of escalation.
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I want to thank you for joining me today,
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Commodore Jay Tariella of the Philippine Coast Guard.
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Thank you, Ms. Karin.
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And let's get started today, everybody.
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I'm Carolyn Davila.
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