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Top contributor ng mga atheist views and madami sa mga atheists ngayon ay nakita at napanood yung mga arguments nitong si Richard Dawkins
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at isa siya sa mga nag-influence sa kanila na maging atheists.
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Actually, nagulat ako dito sa story na to. Hindi ko siya inaasahan.
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Nagulat ako dahil yung sinabi niya dito is something that I have been talking...
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about here in the podcast for many years already.
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Okay, so I've had religious conversations dito sa podcast with kay Nico David.
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Sino pa ba? Si Jay Aruga.
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Diba? And dun sa Sausawan podcast, kasama ko si Chris.
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Madaming beses na rin naming napag-usapan ng religion.
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And other, kapatid si Boy Bantot. Kasama rin yun.
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Napag-usapan namin yung mga religion.
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And I have repeated my ideas about religion being a philosophical concept
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apart from the religious side, apart from the supernatural and divinity.
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Divinity asides, religion is also a structured set of philosophies
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that is useful to society.
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Richard Dawkins kind of mentioned that idea by calling himself a cultural Christian.
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Okay? So panoorin natin itong video niya kung anong ibig sabihin niya ang cultural Christian na yan.
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Okay, so panoorin natin yung interview ni Richard Dawkins.
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I was slightly horrified to hear that Ramadan is being promoted instead.
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I do think that we...
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We are culturally a Christian country.
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I call myself a cultural Christian. I'm not a believer.
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But there's a distinction between being a believing Christian and being a cultural Christian.
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Teka, teka. Just for context, kaya niya na nabangget yung Ramadan ay dahil
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recently, diba, naggano, kakatapos lang ng Holy Week, ng Easter Sunday.
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Taga UK kasi ito eh.
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So, on one part of London, nagkaroon sila ng street decors nung Easter Sunday.
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But, hindi tungkol sa Easter Sunday, yung mga decors.
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Okay? So, ito yung mga street decorations sa isang parte ng London.
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Ayan o, Happy Ramadan instead of Easter Sunday.
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Okay? So, I'm not gonna make this video na parang pagbabanggain mo yung Islam at siya, Christianity.
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Because that is really not the point of this.
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I'm just saying the...
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...context kung bakit niya binanggit yung Ramadan kanina doon sa video niya.
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Okay? So, ito yung sinasabi niya na nangyayari ngayon.
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Kaya niya naisip itong mga sunod na sasabihin niya.
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Okay? So, tuloy natin.
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So, you know, I love hymns and Christmas carols.
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And I sort of feel at home in the Christian ethos.
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I feel that we are a Christian country in that sense.
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It's true that statistically, the number of people who actually believe in Christianity is going down.
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And I'm happy that statistically, the number of people who actually believe in Christianity is going down.
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And I'm happy with that.
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But I would not be happy if, for example, we lost all our cathedrals and our beautiful parish churches.
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So, I count myself a cultural Christian.
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I think it wouldn't matter if we...
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Certainly, if we substituted any alternative religion, that would be truly dreadful.
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Well, which brings me to my supplementary point, which is that, as we know, church attendance is plummeting.
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But the building, the erection of mosques across Europe, I think 6,000 are under construction.
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And there are many more, I mean, are being planned.
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So, do you think, do you regard that as a problem? Do you think that matters?
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Yes, I do, really.
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I mean, I don't...
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I might have to choose my words carefully.
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I mean, if I had to choose between Christianity and Islam, I'd choose Christianity every single time.
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I mean, it seems to me to be a fundamentally decent religion in a way that I think Islam is not.
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I think you're going to have to explain why you say that, Professor Dawkins.
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Why is Islam fundamentally not decent like Christianity?
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Yes, I mean, the way women are treated.
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I mean, Christianity is not great.
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I don't know about that.
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It's had its problems with female vicars and female bishops and things.
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But there's an active hostility to women, which is promoted, I think, by the holy books of Islam.
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I'm not talking about individual Muslims, who, of course, are quite different.
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But the doctrines of Islam, the Hadiths and the Quran, is fundamentally hostile to women, hostile to gays.
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that I like to live in a culturally Christian country, although I do not believe a single word of the Christian faith.
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Let's react to what was mentioned by Richard Dawkins in the video.
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Okay, so for decades, he had been one of the loudest voices that disavowed religion.
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And, of course, Christianity as well.
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Sometimes, Islam too.
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But, basically, being a theist, believing in a deity, criticizing the structure of the church,
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criticizing faith, congregation, and saying that it is basically useless.
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That it is nawalang kwenta yan.
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Nakalokohan yan na maniwala ka sa isang bagay na hindi mo kayang patunayan na nag-iexist.
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Okay, so I'm not gonna go into the detail, the tedious detail of trying to prove or disprove the existence of God.
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This is not that video, okay?
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And aside from that, I suppose it would help kung sabihin ko partly yung position ko.
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I used to be a Christian, but then again, somewhere along the way, I wasn't sure anymore on what to believe about God.
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I suppose I'm still a theist, pero it's not about Christianity anymore.
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Hindi ko muna sasabihin kung ano yun.
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So, but, kasi ang niisip ko, ang problema ko nun, when I realized I am doubtful already about the divinity of Christ,
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then, tinatanong ko kung ano na ako.
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Diba? Kasi minsan, pag mapag-uusapan nyo ng tropa yan,
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tatanongin mo ngayon kung, okay, so hindi ka na kristyano, ano ka na?
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And, even for most people, saying that they are atheist or agnostic,
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parang, hindi, ang usual na sasabihin is, agnostic yung pinaka-closest.
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Kasi, your rational mind cannot also...
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commit na talagang wala eh.
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Na talagang walang, walang Diyos.
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There's that 0.001% na baka may eron.
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So, you can't really, or at least for most people.
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But, for Richard Dawkins, he is completely an atheist.
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But then again, I cannot claim to be agnostic as well.
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Kasi problema rin sa akin yun eh.
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Medyo, may problema rin ako.
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Natawagin yung sarili ko na agnostic.
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For the simple fact that everything else that Christianity has told me,
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yung mga values ko na ina-uphold ko na tama at just,
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ay galing sa turo ng Christianity.
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You get what I mean?
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Kumbaga parang, okay, kung ikaw ay hindi na kristyano,
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pero yung paniniwala mo na ang mabuti,
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ay base sa turo ng mga kristyano,
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matatawag mo ba ang sarili mo na hindi ka na kristyano talaga?
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Kahit hindi ka naniniwala na Diyos si Jesus.
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And I think a lot of people, or probably most people,
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don't think about that.
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Actually, wala pa akong namimit.
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Ito, honestly, wala pa akong namimit na binanggit yun.
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So, kung hindi ka naniniwala sa Diyos,
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bakit pinapaniwalaan mo pa rin yung turo ng Diyos na yun?
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Na hindi mo na pinapaniwalaan?
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So, kung pinapaniwalaan pa rin yun,
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murot mo pa rin yung turo ng Diyos na yun,
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na sinasabi mo hindi mo pinapaniwalaan,
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totoo ba na hindi mo na siya pinapaniwalaan?
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Kasi pinapaniwalaan mo pa rin yung values na yun.
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Nakikinabang ka pa rin.
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Doon sa mga tinuro nun, at saka doon sa society,
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na ibinunga noong mga turo,
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noong church na sumasamba sa Diyos na yun.
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So, that was my conundrum back in the day.
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So, it's very hard for me to say that I am completely an atheist.
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Kung naniniwala ka pa rin doon sa values,
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then you are not completely free.
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Let's go back to Richard Dawkins.
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For a non-believing Christian,
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siguro yun na mas maiksing tawag,
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a non-believing Christian.
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So, if you are a non-believing Christian,
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you are still activated.
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You are still actively going along the rules
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that Christianity has set for society
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for a predominantly Christian country
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like here in the Philippines,
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like there in London, in the UK,
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or most parts of Europe,
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like in France, at saka kung ano-ano pa.
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Di ba? Kasi this is another factor in this story.
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Europe had been accepting millions,
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and millions of immigrants from Muslim countries.
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Importanting factor ito.
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Okay, so dahil yung immigration nila,
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madami silang mga woke policies na kailangan
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tanggapin natin lahat.
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Yung mga borderless countries,
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isa yun sa mga woke na ideology
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na ina-apply in policies by Western countries.
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Because many of the progressives,
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yung mga far-left na,
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do not believe in borders.
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So, ibang usapan na naman yan.
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Huwag na tayong mag-duel doon.
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At dahil hindi sila naniniwala sa mga border,
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tanggap lang sila ng tanggap ng mga refugees
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na madami sa kanila ay galing sa mga war-torn Middle East countries
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like Syria, like Libya, Afghanistan.
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Ang point is, madaming Muslim
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na lumilipat sa Europe,
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which is a predominantly Christian culture.
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There are denialists who say na
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walang pinagkaiba ang kultura ng Kristiyano
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Okay, so again, hindi natin gagawing
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Christian versus Muslim to.
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Okay, may mga sinabi si Richard Dawkins sa huli
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about the Muslim faith.
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kaya niya preferred ang Christianity over Muslims.
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So, we're not gonna dwell on that.
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But, ang punto is,
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established na sa kanila yung kultura
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based on the philosophies of Christianity.
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Kasi yung mga turo ng isang religion,
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if you disregard the divine aspects of them,
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you will be left with philosophy
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you will be left with ideologies.
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And kahit hindi ka naniniwala doon sa divinity,
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pwede ka paring maniwala doon sa mga ideology
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yung Ten Commandments,
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Judeo-Christian values yun eh,
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mga galing sa Abrahamic religions,
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like, tawag doon,
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yung mga Jewish at saka mga Christians
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and even Muslims.
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May mga similarities,
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tis din naman kasi yan.
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So, let's say Ten Commandments.
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ang story nun is fantastical eh.
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Parang binigay ng Diyos
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sa taas ng bundok.
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Tapos, pag napanood mo yung pelikula,
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may mga magical stuff na nangyayari.
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Tapos, bumaba si Moses,
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daladala niya na yung tablet
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na sampung utos ng Diyos.
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So, it is fantastic.
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It is fantastical
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na nanggaling yun sa isang Diyos,
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na hindi kayang i-prove
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or at least napakahirap i-prove
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and convince somebody like Richard Dawkins
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na makonvince mo siya na maniwala.
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But, if you take away that story
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na merong divine na binigay yan ng Diyos
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sa mga tao para sundan,
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You will be left with the actual
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which is nakalagay dun,
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wag kang pumatay,
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wag kang magnakaw,
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wag kang makiapid,
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wag kang magsinungaling
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and the rest of the Ten Commandments.
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if you look at our existing laws,
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you would realize na yun yun.
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Nasa Ten Commandments,
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Saan nanggaling yun?
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E di, saan nanggaling?
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Kumbaga, coincidence lang ba
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na ngayon ay bawal pumatay,
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pinapanish yun ng batas?
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Hindi siya coincidence.
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ang nag-establish
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ng mga batas natin
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ng isang religion
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na nananakalagay.
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Anininiwala doon sa mga values na yun
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ng hindi pagpatay,
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ng hindi pagnanakaw,
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ng hindi pakikiapid.
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At para doon sa mga tao na yun
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sa mga batas na ganoon,
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umaayos ang kanilang
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Kumbaga, nagkakaroon sila ng
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If you imagine kung
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hindi bawal pumatay,
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Kung ang pagpatay,
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ay hindi ipapanish
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You can just imagine the chaos.
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O kung okay lang,
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hindi ipapanish yung mga magnanakaw.
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Kasi, you might say na
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na pag pinanganak ka,
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natural sa iyo na lumaki na
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naniniwala na ang pagpatay
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ay masama at ang pagnanakaw
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ay masama. Kunyari, ganyan.
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Pero sa totoo lang,
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that is not the case.
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Kasi madami ng mga
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madami ng mga civilizations
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gone na hindi naniniwala
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Like, let's say yung mga Vikings.
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Okay lang sa kanila na
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Yun ang trabaho nila eh. Pagnakawan nila yung mga
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villages eh, dati.
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At pagpapatayin yung mga nakatira doon.
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hindi kasalanan ang pumatay.
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Hindi kasalanan ang magnakaw.
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Ibang iba yung values nila.
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Ibang iba yung tingin nila
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sa property, at kung paano mo
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ito pwedeng makuha.
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Kumbaga, iba yung
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ng tingin nila sa mga ganoong bagay.
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The same thing with yung mga Aztecs.
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Diba? Para sa kanila,
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So, ibang iba yung
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Ibang iba yung pananaw nila sa pagpatay.
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So, hindi ko masasabi
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na pag pinanganak ka,
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kung walang relihiyon,
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maniniwala ka doon sa values
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na pinapaniwalaan mo ngayon, na bawal pumatay.
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Na yun ang ibig sabihin
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ng isang mabuting tao.
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Na hindi ka manlalamang,
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hindi ka magnanakaw, hindi mo
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ihaharm yung kapwa mo.
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Kasi, kung evolutionist ka,
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survival of the fittest.
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Ang batas ng nature.
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Diba? Actually, that should be
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the atheist point of view.
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Survival of the fittest.
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Na parang kailangan mong gawin
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kung anong narapat
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para mag-thrive ka.
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Life would be a selfish endeavor.
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If you're gonna go Darwin yan.
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yung Christianity, yung set ng values
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ng Christianity, is not like that.
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It tells you to love
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your neighbor. It tells you
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Turn the other cheek.
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Pag nasasaktan ka,
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Treat the poor kindly.
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Diba? Magbigay ka pag meron kang excess.
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Those are Christian values.
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And, at this point
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in time, I don't think
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kailangan mong maniwala
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pa sa isang Diyos.
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na magandang ideas yung mga yun.
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And, a lot of atheists
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believe that. Diba?
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May mga atheists naman nagdo-donate eh.
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May mga atheists na naniniwala
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May mga atheists na matulungin.
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May mga atheists na
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madaming mababait na
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Mababait in the standards
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Okay? Are you still following me?
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yun ang sinasabi ni
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Diba? Yun ang nare-realize
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na kinakabilangan niya,
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yun ang humubog doon
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sa society wherein he
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thrived, wherein he
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gained the fortune,
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gained the influence, and allowed
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everything he has said
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against that culture.
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he is claiming to be a
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cultural Christian.
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Cultural Christian,
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ibig sabihin lang nun,
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na-appreciate niya
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iyong set-up noong
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society na kinakabilangan
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ng mga Kristiyano.
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Diba? Well, I love
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I love Richard Dawkins.
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Richard Dawkins, but
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criticism ko sa mga ATSD.
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different from before.
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recognize the importance
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of the contributions
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ng mga Kristiyano
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Okay? Na yung relative
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peace na meron tayo ngayon.
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Of course, Christianity has its flaws.
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Hindi na natin kailangan isa-isahin.
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Yan, alam natin lahat.
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Yung mga manyak na pare,
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nandiyan na yung mga
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Yung mga tito, tita nyo na
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kupal na Kristiyano.
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Kasama na yan. Diba?
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Yung mga teacher nyo, yung mga madre sa school.
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Diba? Mga sex scandals.
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You can say a lot of things about
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But, Christianity is not
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that. Those are just
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practicing the faith.
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And, of course, people would be
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I don't think you can
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blame it on the faith itself.
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okay, I'm gonna challenge
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Come up with a better
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alternative to the
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Ten Commandments. Kung
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Subukan mo na lang na paltan.
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Yung bawal pumatay.
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magnakaw. Hindi mo
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pwedeng isama yun, ha? Hindi mo pwedeng isama yun.
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Kasi, Ten Commandments yun, eh.
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And then, gumawa ka
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ng isang structured
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society around it
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using your new Ten
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Commandments. Diba?
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Try to come up with laws
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sa mga bagong set
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of morals na gagawin mo.
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And then, see kung
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makakagawa ka ng mas magandang
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society than what we have
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now. And who knows? Malay mo,
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kaya mo nga. Diba? So, I'd love to
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see it. And then,
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So, itong si Richard
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importance of the contributions
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of the Christian philosophy
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he also adheres to
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but fails to give credit.
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diba, you can, yung
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culture na kinikritis,
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na gusto niya, diba?
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Na he says that he loves, he
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loves the hymns, he loves the churches,
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Christmas carols, he loves the
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traditions, kahit hindi siya, kahit
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hindi niya pinapaniwalaan yun.
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Kasi lahat naman ng tao, mayroon ka bang
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kilala na ayaw sa Christmas?
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Kasi kahit yung mga
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na may saltik, ayaw din nila sa Christmas
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eh. Diba? Pag hindi mo talaga
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trip yung Christmas. But that
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would be because of other reasons.
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Maybe Christmas reminds
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them of something or
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someone else or a trauma.
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Pero Christmas itself,
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I don't think you have any good
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reason to hate it. Diba?
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you may not believe it
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dun sa story nung Christmas
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and why people celebrate it
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but the tradition,
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the tradition itself, the gift giving,
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the Christmas carols,
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yung mga Christmas party,
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At kung walang Christianity,
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hindi mabubuo yung culture na yun.
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And that's just Christmas.
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Diba? And again, like I said,
25:19.5
yung mga holidays
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pa lang yan, yung
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ng ating society, ng batas,
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good conduct towards each other,
25:35.0
even our families.
25:38.5
Christian laws-based nation
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like the Philippines,
25:42.8
we should be aware
25:43.9
na galing talaga sa mga philosophies
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ng mga Kristiyano yan.
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I'm not telling you
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the evil side of religion.
25:57.2
Okay? I'm not saying that.
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But just don't forget,
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yung kultura natin
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may pinanggalingan yan.
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Diba? Hindi ka nagising na lang
26:08.7
at lumaki and take credit
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for everything that you are,
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that you believe in.
26:14.4
Every value that you have
26:16.1
were passed down to you
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by society, by your teachers,
26:22.6
by the church, kung nagsisimba ka.
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yung iba kasi galit sa
26:28.8
Christianity because dala lang daw
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Kastila. Which is true.
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talaga yung nagdala,
26:42.6
kung ire-reject mo
26:44.4
yung dinalang Christianity
26:46.5
dito, what are you
26:48.7
gonna replace it with?
26:49.9
Diba? Are you gonna go back
26:52.6
to polytheistic animism
26:54.7
noong pre-colonial
27:00.5
a modern form of government
27:04.1
Okay, so going back to
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I didn't know how
27:10.4
to react. Kumbaga parang
27:12.3
mixed emotions yung naramdaman ko
27:14.6
while watching him
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To explain his thoughts.
27:25.3
Na parang, he looks like
27:27.3
he was having a real-time
27:32.0
it's almost like parang feeling
27:34.6
what have I done?
27:43.9
his entire adult life,
27:46.9
his entire professional
27:52.6
faith, trying to dismantle
27:55.0
the belief in God,
27:57.2
trying to dismantle
27:58.5
Christianity and other
28:04.3
all kinds of faith-based
28:10.8
institutions that are built by it.
28:14.9
here he is, parang
28:18.9
mahal niya yun. Na,
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alam mo yun, parang si
28:22.6
sinisira mo yung isang bagay na
28:24.5
hindi mo alam na napakalaki
28:26.8
pala ng pakinabang mo.
28:28.7
Tapos, the dread sinks
28:30.6
in na, putya, pag nawala
28:32.9
itong bagay na to,
28:34.6
kawawa pala ako. Diba?
28:36.7
Baka hindi ko kayanin.
28:40.8
gonna be a tremendous
28:42.6
effort for me to adapt
28:44.7
to a new world without
28:48.8
kinakalaban ko buong buhay ko.
28:52.6
habang nagsasalita siya, diba, sinabi niya
28:54.6
pa, parang, natutuwa daw siya
28:56.7
na umuunti na yung
28:58.6
mga naniniwala sa
29:00.5
Christianity. While, in the
29:02.6
same breath, gusto niya raw
29:04.6
yung Christianity. Diba?
29:06.6
Gusto niya yung kultura.
29:08.5
E paano magkakaroon ng kultura na
29:10.3
Kristiyano kung walang Kristiyano?
29:18.5
to watch somebody,
29:22.6
as respected as him, and
29:24.5
even I, I still respect
29:26.5
him as an evolutionary
29:28.2
biologist. He really is
29:30.7
one of the best in his
29:32.8
field. Yun nga lang,
29:35.5
as smart as he is,
29:37.5
I don't think napag-isipan
29:39.0
niya mabuti yung positions
29:40.7
niya about atheism
29:47.0
I don't know what happens. Kasi kung,
29:50.6
let's say, some people are saying,
29:52.6
baka daw mag-convert si Richard Dawkins
30:02.7
Diba? At kung mangyayari yun,
30:09.0
kumbaga, kailangan niyang bumawi
30:10.6
ng bonggang-bongga sa
30:14.8
Kaya mo, ilang taon na siya.
30:16.8
Diba? I don't know. Huwag na natin
30:18.6
i-google. Diba? Pero,
30:23.9
o baka 70 plus na rin siya.
30:25.6
I don't know. But,
30:26.8
at his age, ilang dekada
30:32.3
sirain yung paniniwala ng mga tao
30:35.5
sa religion. But, I don't know.
30:37.5
Maybe that will not happen.
30:39.4
Pero, nakita ko lang talaga yung
30:41.2
cognitive dissonance
30:47.3
when he was realizing
30:51.1
he would need to contradict.
30:53.5
Diba? Actually, nagmukha siyang ano eh.
30:55.6
Nagmukha siyang ingrate.
30:57.4
Nagmukha siyang tanga.
30:59.1
Diba? As smart as
31:01.0
Richard Dawkins is,
31:04.0
diba? Parang, you are,
31:07.0
pledging allegiance
31:10.5
that you are supposed to be
31:15.0
That you have spent so
31:17.2
much time trying to
31:23.1
It's sad. Madaming emotions
31:26.8
the interview. But, I suppose
31:29.2
sad would be the most
31:31.1
predominant. And,
31:33.0
ayun. I don't know. Good luck
31:35.4
sa Europe. Good luck kay
31:37.1
Sir Richard Dawkins.
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I suppose that's it.
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Thank you for watching!
