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Gusto kayo dyan mga kameta, pasensya na kanina there was a problem with the connection so hindi natin ginawang live yung talk natin dyan sa
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dito sa University of California, Berkeley so
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but I hope to upload it so na I recorded it both dun sa isang phone natin sa Samsung as well as also dun sa isang professional camera natin
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so whatever is the best or baka both na lang yung upload ko kasi may problema ng konti yung Samsung in terms of yung headspace
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yung isa naman I hope it's audio is nice but don't worry I'll post that, it was a good conversation
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we didn't have much time, usually I have more than 2 hours for those kinds of events but this time medyo late kami nag start
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tapos medyo binisbilis namin dahil humahabol ang tao dun sa mga lectures nila but I enjoyed
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if I'm not mistaken, ito yung first talk ko dito sa hindi lang Berkeley but also dito sa Northern
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ah no no no, of course not
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of course I give talks in Stanford all the time and hopefully we'll be back in Stanford University too but
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this is the first talk I'm giving here sa California, Berkeley so at least we did both Stanford and Berkeley
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it was a good conversation
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the students asked very good questions
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the professor who was part of the conversation also asked very good question, head of APEC Center at Professor of Political Science dito
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so things were going well in that sense
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very interesting also dito, ang ganda ng weather oh
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the weather is actually very nice
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wala na, nag-beach mode na yung mga tao dito
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pero kanina nandun tayo sa loob ng library
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to be honest, I don't know if it's good or not, I don't know if it's good or not, I don't know if it's good or not, I don't know if it's good or not, I don't know if it's good or not, I don't know if it's good or not
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guys nung nasa college ako hindi ako basyadong nagla-library
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kinagawa namin dati, nag-iraman lang kami ng buk
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ayan yung mga piratang buk, mga ganun
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Ilocano eh, kulang sa budget eh
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just go slower bro
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but anyway, I enjoyed my time dito sa library
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you know, they have this very classic library, Morrison Library
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kaso bawal ang laptop, pictures, videos there so
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I couldn't join you guys from there kanina
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Medyo masarap maglakad
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Medyo catch up tayo
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Dito sa mga lives natin
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That tends to make things
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I'm keeping in touch
02:47.4
Of course dito sa Amerika
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Especially yung meeting ni
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Ferdinand Marcos Jr.
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Si President Biden
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Prime Minister Kishida
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A number of developments here
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Yung inaasam-asam natin
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Yung pinapush natin parate
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Some strategic investments
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Mukhang may pag-asa yan
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Kasi there's gonna be a push
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For an economic corridor
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Subiclar, Manila, Pampanga
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High quality investments there
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Defense aid package
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So some of the things
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That I've been pushing for
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Some of the things
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That we have been hoping for
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Medyo mukhang may pag-asa na
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Mukhang may pag-asa na
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Ang kaganda ng discussion natin
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With Senator Trillian
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Agree ako sa kanya
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Ang concern kasi dati
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Is ang gulo ni Duterte
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At ang sabog ni Duterte
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Yung mga Amerikano
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Medyo nagdadalawang isipin
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Kung magbigay sila
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Ng mga matitinong armas
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This is Trump era
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So very transactional
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Very non-apologetic
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Ng mga mas magagandang
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Armas sa Pilipinas
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Of course sa Pilipinas
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Bago malis si Marcus Jr.
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There was a very interesting
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Hindi naman drama
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Nakita ko yung mga
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Pro Vice President
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People were saying
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Oh you didn't take the full video
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You were just looking at
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Part of what happened
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And Sarah Duterte was just
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And protocol of Marcus Jr.
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Yung pinost natin na yun
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Yung kaibigan natin
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From my former kapuso
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So yun lang nakita natin
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Maraming nagtag sa akin
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The version of that
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Para makita na naman
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Obviously sa Pilipinas
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Dahil ang dami mga
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Kind of a new tradition
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Pre-departure drama
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Of course may mga nagsabi
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Na sana titignan na lang nila
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Ano din ang reaction
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Kasi nakita natin
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Nag-dead maan talaga
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Mga galit na galit
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Yung si First Lady
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But I really hope
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Brings home the beef
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Brings home the beef
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Hindi naman pwede
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Travel ka ng travel
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Pakit ka ng pakit
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Pero wala naman outcome
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Dapat there should be
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Para naman medyong
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Matatang bansa natin
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So I'm looking forward
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Infrastructure projects
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And strategic agreements
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Na nine-negotiate nila
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So we're gonna update on that
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More than one hour
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Hindi ma-figure out
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Anong pangalan niya?
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Si Bossing Llamas
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Hindi niya ma-figure out
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I think on the road siya
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So hindi niya hawak
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Hindi mahala yung details
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UP Faculty Zoom account
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Registered Zoom account
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Hindi ka makapasok dun
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Igit sa isang oras
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Hindi namin ma-figure out
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Now I'm hoping na
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We can rearrange it
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Maga natutulog yan
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So hindi talaga makahabol
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Kapang sa 11pm arrangement
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Pero mababot na lang
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Hindi pa rin nakasali
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And I was also very tired
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Kasi this same day naman
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In-interview naman natin
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Si Senator Trillanes
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Re-schedule lang natin
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Hopefully by then
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We'll have more details
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US-Philippines-Japan
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Trilateral security agreement
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Latest na pangyari
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Ang pinaka-exciting guys
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Pinaka-exciting talaga
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Na ating mga kabayan
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Political affiliation
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Kalate lang na ating mga kabayan
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Ay directly invested
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Disanchored sila eh
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Hindi sila tethered dito
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So I think that's a very interesting data
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That we have to look at
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And hopefully we can
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Real opposition has to do
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In order to make sure
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That it can take the initiative
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Maybe not next year
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But hopefully in the coming years
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Maraming tayong mga pag-usapan dyan
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Thank you so much
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Pero kung may mga tanong kayo
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Please send nyo na ngayon
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Para you will take into consideration
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Hopefully God willing
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One of the plans that we have here
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So also to set up yung
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Ask me any kind of
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Ask me any question
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Mga matinong questions
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Para we have an interesting
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So ang gagawin ko siguro
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Magkocollect tayo
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Do it live episode
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And we'll call on you
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May isang question and all
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And then we can put them together
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Or what we can do is
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Put two or three questions
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Similar themes together
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And kind of make sense
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Thank you very much
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Ang daming pag-usapan
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Itong sasabihin ko ah
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So nung nasa Washington DC tayo
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Of course after yung talk natin
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Sa Atlantic Council
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Mahita mo talaga eh
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May problema tong bansa na to eh
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Medyo sabog yung politics nila
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More than 50 chance naman na alos si Trump
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And hindi masyadong inspiring si Biden
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People all over the place
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Pennsylvania Avenue
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Near the US Congress
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And then of course
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Pagdating dito sa California also
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Nakita natin na may mga homelessness
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But to be honest guys
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It's hard to underestimate the US eh
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Napakayaman na bansa pa rin tong bansa na to eh
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Flying from South Carolina
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Passing through Chicago
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Passing to New York
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Coming here to New York
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Mayaman na bansa pa rin to eh
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This is a very powerful and rich country
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Ang napansin ko eh
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Is over the years
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Parang lalong umaman pang Amerika
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Lalo kumunta ko sa downtown San Francisco
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And some of the other areas
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Obviously they have still all of these problems
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With distribution of wealth
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They still have all of these problems with
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Political partisanship
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Polarized discourse
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Yes may mga problems with corruption
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I came out of this latest trip sa US
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Medyo mas impressed ako sa US
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Because I used to be very critical of US
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Of course pangit nung public infrastructure nila
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Lalo kumpara sa Asia
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I mean coming from
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Coming from Japan
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Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka, Nagoya
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And then coming from Germany, Berlin
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I mean mga matitinong bansa nito eh
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Maayos na bansa ito eh
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Apparently siguro medyo ina-understimate natin
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Ang United States eh
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I think the US is way stronger than we think
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Nako someone dropped an ID pala dito eh
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I'll just leave the ID there nalang
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Saan kaya natin ilagay yung ID nung bata
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Hindi dito nalang
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No para baliktin siya
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Wala hindi niya mawala
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Mayaman tong bansa na ito eh
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Malakas pa rin sila
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Hindi lang yung military nila
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Ba't yung economy nila
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Nakikita mo dynamic
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Nagge-generate ng growth
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Makikita mo pa rin yung wealth ng bansa na ito eh
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Ano yung sinasabi ng mga major vloggers na
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Ito na ang panahon ng Asia
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I mean if you've been to China recently
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China pa nga yung nagsaslow down eh
12:16.8
Nagpapakita ng mga cleavage eh
12:19.3
Social cleavages and fault lines and all of that
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Baka yung ibang inisip nyo
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Tsaka economy na hindi pa ganun ka dynamic
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An average Chinese is
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Earning one-sixth or one-seventh of an American
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So sobrang layo pa rin yung level of development ng US sa China
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So medyo dumb din yung mga ibang comparison
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Na ang China nag-grow ng 6% fire
12:44.0
Like yeah yeah yeah
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But of course China is you know still a developing country
12:47.6
With the per capita income
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Of $10,000 to $12,000
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Kumpara mo dito sa US my goodness
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Their per capita is almost $70,000
12:55.9
Sobrang yaman na bansa na ito
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Of course kung pumunta ko sa mga
12:59.0
Lugan na katulad ng California, San Francisco
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Mas lalong makitang yaman ng bansa na ito eh
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Ako kasi South Carolina din tayo diba
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So I saw even the south of the country
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Georgia, South Carolina
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Daming mayaman dito eh
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It's a very wealthy powerful country
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Baka masyado na excited yung mga DDS na ito eh
13:19.3
Doon sa fall of the west
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And rise of China
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All that bullshit
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Ay sorry all that nonsense
13:25.3
The reality is that malakas pa rin ang US
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The reality is that yung China medyo nagpipik na siya
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And the reality is that tayo sa Pilipinas
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Kailangan talaga natin mag-grow
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And I'll say this again
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Pagdating sa geopolitics and security
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Siyempre mas malapit tayo dito
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Kasi hindi naman silang sumasakop sa West Philippines eh
13:47.3
Pero pagdating sa economic
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I hope the Philippines will be smart
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And will be able to get as much investment as possible
13:53.2
Para medyo makabalabal din tayo eh
13:56.5
Kalami itong mga Amerikanong
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Nanggugulo sila all around the world
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Ang sabog ng politika nila
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Pero ang yaman pa rin nila
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Ang lalo pa silang umaman over the past few years
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Ayaw ko tayo mga asya
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Kahit kahit na lang tayo para makabal tayo
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But you know the other thing I also notice is
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Ang very different
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Ang layo ng state of mind
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Dito sa West Coast
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Kumpara sa East Coast
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Kasi sa West Coast
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First of all yung demographics
14:29.8
Pasok ka pa lang sa SFO
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Yung mga estudyante
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Karamihan mga asya no
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Taming mga asya no
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And the other thing is
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Hindi lang democratic
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It's very commercially oriented
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Kaya kanina medyo
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Noong nag-talk tayo dito sa Berkeley
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Medyo nag-iisip ako baka
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Masyado ko i-emphasize yung military-military aspect
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Of course from their perspective
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Pinapace ko yung pag-discuss ko ng mga
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Military tensions issues and all of that
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Kasi ang chill nila dito eh
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Sobrang chill lang sila eh
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Sarap buhay diba?
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Sarap buhay diba?
15:18.9
Lakas ng trade and investment ties nila
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With China and Japan and Asia
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With Vietnam and all of that
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So much of trade from Asia is passing through
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Kaya yaman-yaman nila
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Doon naman sa kabila
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Medyo Cold War oriented
15:42.1
China as a threat
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Andun pa rin yung strong
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Almost all of them
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So mas komportable ako
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When I'm in East Coast
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When I discuss West Philippines issue
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Tapos din-discuss ko yung mga
15:57.9
Questions of foreign peace
15:58.9
Parang I don't know kung nakaka-relate sila
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Or something like that
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That's the other thing you notice also eh
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You always talk to very intelligent audiences
16:12.1
Yung mga intelligent audiences
16:13.2
They have very different
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Psychological orientation
16:16.6
And appreciation of the world
16:18.2
So I was a little bit hedging kanina
16:20.2
I want to make sure na
16:22.0
Maganda yung pasok natin
16:23.2
At discussion natin
16:27.1
The other thing is
16:33.2
So nakikita niyo yung tower dyan
16:35.9
Parang may ganun din ng UP eh
16:37.5
So makikita mo yung
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Yung architecture namin
16:41.4
Medyo influenced talaga dito eh
16:43.4
Siguro by Berkeley
16:44.2
We always thought na more
16:45.3
Harvard ang influence natin
16:46.7
But to be honest from my...
16:47.2
From my own observation
16:49.7
Mas similar sigurang UP dito sa Berkeley
16:51.7
Kaysa sa Harvard eh
16:55.4
But the interesting thing is
16:56.4
Salamat kay Parang Leloy
16:58.1
Kanina yung was explaining to me
17:00.1
The geography of this area
17:01.4
Obviously we were going to the places na
17:12.8
Medyo maaga kami masyado
17:15.2
I'll try to see you there
17:17.7
No, so pumunta kami dun sa area sa mga
17:19.8
Andun si Oppenheimer and all of that
17:21.4
So there's lots of history here
17:23.5
Ang dami rin mga pictures ng mga Nobel pri...
17:26.4
Nobel Prize winners
17:30.4
So very impressive
17:32.6
I think way more Nobel Prize winner dito kaysa Harvard
17:37.0
Ah, yung mga mas posh na private school
17:39.1
So very impressive itong Berkeley na ito
17:42.4
The thing that I didn't know about
17:43.8
As far as Berkeley is concerned
17:47.2
To Lely for explaining that is
17:49.5
A lot of people are involved in the colonization of the Philippines
17:55.1
Including yung mga nasa
17:56.6
Philippine Commission
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Yung mga nag-oversee ng colonization of the Philippines
18:01.0
Pre-Commonwealth era
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And then if you look at also the architecture of the university
18:04.9
There's this kind of a
18:06.3
There's this site
18:07.9
I'm walking towards it
18:10.3
Tumingin ka sa baba
18:14.5
And makikita mo yung Golden Gate
18:15.8
Because the Golden Gate was supposed to be the Golden Gate of the United States
18:16.8
Because the Golden Gate was supposed to
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Yun yung site kung saan dumadaan yung ginto
18:24.0
Papunta sa Amerika
18:26.5
And you could also see yung mga imperialist dito
18:29.1
Nung 19th century
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Yun ang tinitignan nila
18:32.3
At they could see all of the opportunities in Asia
18:36.2
And the emerging American Empire in the 19th century
18:39.4
Interesting yun kasi
18:41.7
Parang in a way you could say
18:43.9
Yung pag-colonize ng Philippines
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U.S. as a global empire
18:50.1
If you think of it
18:51.6
Medyo dito rin nangyari yan eh
18:54.0
I would always think na
18:56.2
Galing sa East Coast
18:59.6
Grand Strategies people
19:00.9
But actually it's more from here apparently
19:02.7
When you think about it
19:06.1
Oh it's no, it's the next one
19:10.5
Pagtuminga sa baba
19:14.1
San Francisco Beneful
19:15.3
So there's something also with the architecture here
19:16.8
And history of this place
19:18.8
That sheds light down
19:20.2
Very interestingly also kanina
19:24.3
Beautiful library
19:25.2
I love the library
19:26.1
Parang mas bagay ang porma ko dito sa library
19:28.8
Kaysa mga tao dito
19:29.8
Masaya silang chill
19:32.0
One thing that you must keep in mind
19:35.0
Is that dito sa library
19:38.9
There's a section there
19:40.1
Kay Barrow Seattle yun no
19:41.3
Tapos about the Philippines
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Pero syempre dahil woke yung mga tao dito
19:46.8
Hindi na sya Philippines
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Philippines na sya
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May mga video tayo nakuha kanina
19:54.2
So I'll post something about it
19:56.7
That was quite interesting
19:58.5
I was trying to walk parang dito sa
20:01.1
Papunta sa area niyan
20:02.2
Yung sinasabi natin kanina
20:04.4
So yeah you could see na
20:07.0
The Philippines is very much
20:10.3
I think that was the one kanina eh
20:11.9
The Philippines was very much
20:17.2
Dun sa geopolitical thinking ng mga tao dito
20:20.8
More than a hundred years ago so
20:25.4
Then of course there's that gate there
20:28.2
Very interesting gate so
20:31.8
That gate is very very
20:37.6
For us mga UP academic people
20:39.9
Or mga activist na ganun kasi
20:42.2
That is also the gate that you tend to see a lot of people
20:47.8
Expressing their stance on conflicts
20:50.1
Whether it's in Gaza
20:51.2
You see people talking about socialism
20:55.1
The ills of capitalism
20:58.7
I also found that quite interesting
21:01.2
Yung mga activist spirit
21:02.8
Although I would say the
21:03.8
Activist spirit here in Berkeley
21:07.0
Makikita mo yan sa PUP
21:08.9
Kaysa sa UP Diliman
21:10.7
Kasi sa UP medyo na rin kami eh
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Medyo na inkonyo na rin kami eh
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Mas activist na yun
21:20.9
More true to that
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Spirit compared to us
21:24.9
Interesting I mean
21:26.7
I'll obviously think more about this place
21:30.7
As I said nga mostly
21:33.7
We're on this side of the world we're
21:35.7
Mostly in Stanford
21:39.7
Ibao sa Stanford eh
21:40.9
Dahil marami silang mga experts
21:42.9
On US-China competition
21:44.4
Great power competition
21:45.3
So I feel very comfortable there
21:47.3
Not to mention they have the Hoover Institution
21:49.3
They have many people who work in the
21:51.3
Far East government
21:55.3
Including Trump administration
21:56.3
Ganun ganun ganun
21:57.3
Dito medyo iba talagang vibes eh
21:59.3
Medyo iba yung vibes so
22:05.3
Hopefully tapos na yung class ni Leloy
22:07.3
Mas kaya na natin umabal dun sa mga next engagements natin
22:11.3
At magma marites pa
22:13.3
Kaya may dami pa namin marites
22:16.3
Nagbavlog vlog pa tayo
22:18.3
Kumukawa pa tayo ng mga videos
22:19.3
I think it's this alley no?
22:24.3
Ang orientation neto is
22:30.3
Maraming salamat sa mga nang kinig sa aray
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Masyadong maaga ngayon sa Pilipinas pero
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Have a blessed morning and talk to you soon
