Mga isyu sa transportasyon, bumungad sa bagong opisyal ng DOTr | #TedFailonandDJChaCha
00:55.0
So maghahanda tayo ng libring sakay para to help our commuters.
01:00.2
But basically, I do believe yung sa interagency ng gobyerno kasi they've been doing this for siguro mga one year na rin.
01:07.1
So handa naman po yung ating MNDA, sila Chair Artes, yung mga LPUs at saka PNC.
01:12.9
So we will just have to do the things that we've been doing.
01:17.4
At magiging peaceful naman po yung kanila magiging rally.
01:20.8
Ang claim po ng dalawang grupo is
01:23.9
Mami, ang nag-consolidate, lalo pa daw pong nabawasan.
01:28.7
Pati yung mga sumali nung una, umatras na kasi nga sa mga problema kinakaharap nito pong inyong consolidation.
01:35.5
Kasama po dito ang hindi kumikita, malaki po yung utang, ang iba nga po yung nagsaulin ng mga units.
01:42.9
Ano po yung reaction doon?
01:44.7
Unang-una, nung narinig ko yan, siguro a month or two ago, mga one month,
01:49.3
e tamang-tama may meeting ang LCFRB with the regional directors.
01:53.9
So sabi ko, ano itong nababalitaan ko about withdrawal?
01:57.6
So parang binigyan po sila ng percentage or rather I asked them, ano ba, gaano ba itong malawak?
02:03.6
So well, everybody, buong region or rather lahat ng region nagsabi,
02:07.8
chair maliit lang naman po, kokunti na lang po.
02:10.0
Kunyari sa isang region may 50, may region may 50, bawat region yun ha.
02:15.1
So parang sinasabi sila na hindi naman po ganong karami.
02:18.4
Then eventually, I asked ano ba talaga ang sitwasyon, ano ba ito, nag-withdraw?
02:22.9
Tapos ayaw nang sumama in any groups.
02:27.0
Nung nag-second meeting kami, that was two weeks ago,
02:29.9
ang nangyayari pala based on the info na naragdab ko, Ted,
02:33.8
is that aalit sila sa isang, kunyari, kooperatiba.
02:37.9
Kasi may mga problema sila with the leadership and then lilipat pala sa ibang kooperatiba.
02:42.6
So yun yung sitwasyon ng ating mga ibang kasamahan regarding the consolidation concern.
02:47.6
Okay, sige. So yan po ang sinabi lang sa inyo nila Mr. Guadis.
02:52.9
Ah yeah, yung mga IPs po niya kasi I think they're more than 12.
02:57.3
Pero kung yan pong sinasabi niya, meron bang actual na datos na ibinigay sa inyo sa percentage of consolidation per region?
03:10.2
Ah, sa percentage, ang latest that I got, I'll just say this muna sa nation, kasi nationwide, I just got this two days ago.
03:19.4
Ang pinaka exact number of percentage.
03:22.9
Nationwide, and this is all modes, kasama yung JIP, UB, etc.
03:27.4
It is almost 78%. Yun yung latest na natanggap namin which we announced to the media.
03:34.0
So from 76 sometime January or February, it's now to almost 78%.
03:40.4
Okay, when you talk about nationwide, sa buong Pilipinas, okay, maaari pong tumaas nationwide dahil sa ilang region na mataas.
03:50.2
Pero sa Metro Manila.
03:52.9
Anong porsyento po ninyo?
03:54.9
That's a good question. Ito, si Ardy Tamayo, I remember she presented, siya yung halos na sa dulo nung meeting.
04:02.5
From 52, I think nag-54. Nadagdagan ng mga 2% lang. So it is from the 52 which was I think the end of December, or rather January ata.
04:14.5
So it's now nasa 54. So nagkaroon ng slight increase tayo sa NPR po.
04:18.8
Opo, opo. Pero sir, ito ho.
04:21.3
Ito ho ay nanggagaling sa December figure ho natin na from 26% na pinakahuli.
04:30.1
Ito po, ito, sir, sir, Yusek, ito official ito ha?
04:34.1
From LTFR, official po ito, submitted tumalakan niyang as of December 31, 26% pa lang ha? Pero from that percentage, tumaas ng 54? Kaano ninyo?
04:45.7
Yeah, yeah. Tama ka. I now remember that was the percentage given to the President.
04:50.7
From what I remember, I'll double check my records. But definitely nakita ko yung numero na sa mga a little more than 50%.
04:58.9
But still, sa lahat ng mga regions, kasi parang kailangan namin maraman ang percentage para titignan natin ano ba yung perang problematic or okay.
05:07.6
It is NPR still, after how many months, na pinakamababa. Ngunit it has come to that high of a percentage na.
05:14.4
Okay, sige. So kung assuming po na totoo itong 54%, na consolidated.
05:20.3
Sa Metro Manila, if we're talking about 41,835 na, ito ho, di ba sila naglilinis LTFR? Binala ho ninyo? Ang gulo kasi ng record.
05:31.1
Yes, I remember that. I remember yung LTFR.
05:33.4
Yes, apo, apo, apo. So ito po yung kanilang nililinis. Sa 41,835,000 ha, na mga jeepneys for Metro Manila, kung 54% yan.
05:44.5
So meron pa ho tayong 20,000 mahigit na mga jeepneys na posibleng ma-desenfranchise.
05:50.3
Come May 1. So ang tanong natin nga dito, ready ba ang gobyerno po dito?
05:57.4
No, tama ka no. That was the thing that we talked about. So ang naalala ko rin, after the interview, parang nililinis nga nila.
06:06.5
I remember the word that we used, nililinis nga nila. Parang 20,000 yung hindi pa, what's this, nag-consolidate.
06:13.7
Pero nung tignan nila, yung numero ng actual na prangkisa na nag-register talaga sa LTO.
06:20.3
Kaya doon mo malalaman kung pinabiyahin po talaga. They came out with around 10,000 or more na hindi pa talaga nag-register pala noong 2022-23.
06:29.4
That's why remember, parang may lumabas na information na kung ibabasi natin sa prangkisa na talagang nag-register at nag-consolidate, parang umabot ata ng 90%.
06:38.8
But still, we are not looking at that 90%. We have to look at the 50% plus because yun yung actual na prangkisang pending or nakalagay sa LTFRB.
06:50.3
And while sa sitwasyon na yun, we will have another meeting para bago na po yung deadline ng April 30, magkaroon pa ng more solution or rather more action lalo sa parte ng NTR-LTFRB para matulungan natin yung ating mga commuters after April 30, Ted.
07:08.6
O sige po, sige. So kumbaga magpapa-update na po kayo ng actual figure. Bagamat wala na po talaga itong extension, di po ba? No yun pong klaro?
07:17.5
Yes, yes, Ted. Alam mo, nandun na po sa town hall meeting.
07:20.3
And it was asked by one of the trans-politics, talagang sinabi po ng Pangulo, talagang wala na pong extension.
07:26.7
Sige. Okay. Sir, yung pong route rationalization plan, ito ho napaka-importante nito. Dito ho napag-usapan din natin. Kumusta po so far ito pong ang pagkakaroon ng mga local route plan ng mga LGU?
07:44.6
Dahil ang huling figure po dito as of December 31, ha?
07:50.3
175 na LGUs, 162 pa lang ang merong local route plan.
07:57.6
Tama yun. I think a little higher na by today because namin nakita akong memo from LTFRB. Kaya nga, nung nag-usap sa Congress, remember, nagkaroon po kami ng apat ng hiling sa Congress.
08:08.8
And that was precisely, talagang paulit-ulit po sinasabi ni Congressman Ackoff because he has this belief, and we respect that, na parang para sa kanya, dapat unahin yung LPTRP.
08:20.3
After the consolidation, kasi medyo kailangan na magtutok ng consolidation po, definitely LPTRP will be the highest level of priority because kailangan po natin tumaayos with our LGUs.
08:33.3
And luckily po, nagkaroon po tayo ng mga several communication with Secretary Abalos at alam niya naman po niya, yung pinaka-importanting parte ng LPTRP is the, alam mo, pagtutulong ng LGUs.
08:46.6
So that will be the focus po ng DOTR slash LTFRB.
08:50.3
To talk to the LGUs para yung mga daan-daan na pending ay mapabilis na at hopefully matapos na yung LPTRP on several or cities nationwide po.
09:03.8
Sandali lang. Are you aware po, Yusec, na for Metro Manila, ang route rationalization plan must emanate not from the LGUs but from LTFRB, DOTR?
09:15.9
Yeah, yeah. Tama po yun. Yung Yusec area po.
09:18.6
So tama po kayo. Combination sa LGUs outside, yun po talaga is LGU and LTFRB. But dito po sa Yusec, it is really a task of DOTR and LTFRB po.
09:32.4
Eh yun, sir, wala pang inilalabas ang LTFRB na route plan, sir, for Metro Manila.
09:38.8
Sa totoo lang, yun po yung sitwasyon ngayon. Kaya nga, they have to drop in time. Ngayon po, meron akong task regarding that LTFRB.
09:47.5
Kailangan po natin mapabilis because especially, kailangan po natin masabi na dito sa ating mga kooperatiba, korporasyon, regarding the numbers that are needed for them to have the proper number po sa mga DHLs po.
10:01.4
So Yusec, can you enlighten us?
10:17.5
For NCR, na may pinakamarami pong jeepney units, kung wala ka pang route plan, eh yung nga sinasabi ng mga congressman nila, congressman Akope, at maging ng mga eksperto na ito dapat ang una.
10:30.2
Paano ka mag-a-assign ng mga jeepney or cooperatives sa particular na ruta, eh wala ka pang ang route plan?
10:39.2
Kasi ang mangyayari po doon, so number one nga is consolidation.
10:42.8
So once route will have either kooperatiba or korporasyon.
10:47.5
Ang mangyayari po, once the Yusec will be given the LP therapy or route of consolidation at nagkaroon na po ng numbers, so they will be advised, told na ito po yung number.
10:57.6
So magkakaroon po tayo ng adjustment.
11:00.5
It's either A, dadagdagan po kayo or babawasan po kayo ng konti or magkakaroon ng ruta outside ng mga hindi nag-consolidate at kailangan po bigyan natin yung mga kooperatiba or korporasyon for those routes to be filled up.
11:14.3
So those will be the changes that will happen.
11:16.9
Once natuloy na po natin yung route for consolidation, especially dito sa Metro Manila.
11:22.6
So, sir, madaling sabihin yan pero sa actual implementation, hindi madali yan.
11:30.0
Kasi kapag nag-deadline ka na sa April 30 at wala ka pang route plan at meron kang mga kooperatiba na supposed to be bibigyan ng ruta tapos wala na maraming disenfranchise,
11:43.3
hindi ka basta-basta mga kasasabi na, oi bukas dito ka bumiya, hindi po ganun yung kadali.
11:46.9
Kaya nga po ang wisdom dito, doon sa original po na plano nga nila Tugade, kung papasahin natin, ang first thing, ang first order of business is the route plan.
12:01.1
Definitely po, that was I think done during the time of Secretary Tugade.
12:05.9
But during this time po, ang ginawa po ng ating office is that kung isasabay-sabay po natin, we can really do that parang almost sabay-sabay po.
12:13.9
Because at the end of the day, ang importante po,
12:16.9
is we should know sino po ba ang interesado. Kasi po, once interesado or hindi interesado, then we will have the numbers.
12:24.6
Now when we have the numbers and there will be certain routes na kailangan pinagdagan, then ito po mga kooperatiba po or korupasyon,
12:32.5
they will be the ones given preference, dahil sila po yung nag-agree to be consolidated, sila po yung mag-assume.
12:38.7
Alam po yan ng mga kooperatiba, in fact they are very much willing to assume routes that are needed or rather needed na magkaroon ng unit,
12:46.9
or maybe areas na dadagdagan tayo yung kanilang unit.
12:50.2
So importante po talaga ang first step is the consolidation para alam po natin sino po ba ang sasama sa programa or hindi po.
12:59.4
Paano magpapatupad yan?
13:03.4
Number one, magiging klaro, kulang ang mga units. That's number one. Kulang po sigurado. Kulang yan.
13:10.6
So kung mauuna muna consolidation, tsaka ka mag-a-assign ng mga ruta.
13:17.4
Parang, sir sorry ha, pero parang wala sa hulog. Parang wala po sa common sense. Paano namin intindihin yan?
13:24.7
Yeah, what you're saying kasi pwedeng kulang, pwede sobra. But remember po, ang gagawin po natin dito, in fact sa Metro Manila when it was presented,
13:34.8
may mga routes po tayo na hindi nag-consolidate but there are like maybe one or two.
13:40.5
Kasi kung titignan po natin talaga yung mga ruta na hindi nag-consolidate, there are really routes na in fact may mga ruta pala dyan,
13:46.9
hindi na talaga ginagamit or nagagawa for the past years. So because of those information, parang nandun po yung confidence natin sa LTFRB,
13:55.9
lalo na sa NCR, that this could be assumed by cooperative na mayroong consolidation na medyo either malapit or katabi to assume those routes po.
14:07.0
So yun po yung situation or rather the things that will be done, especially by LTFRB regarding the concerns that you are raising about yung paano po,
14:16.9
Ang sinasabi po ninyo, maaaring isang cooperative na might assume yung ruta na malapit sa kanilang existing route.
14:26.2
Sir, doon pa lang po sa ganun statement, parang mahirap na yun.
14:32.8
Kasi yung ruta from point A to point B and then mag-assume ka sa ibang ruta,
14:39.5
eh yung mananakay nun, sir hindi nyo ba na-imagine kung gaano kagulo yun?
14:43.3
In the first place po, it's best nga na malaman natin who are there to consolidate or nag-agree rather than baka mamaya meron tayong LTFRB tapos wala naman palang interest yung present na nagpapatakbo sa ruta na yun.
14:59.6
And then tayang lang po na hindi pala siya tatakbo dahil ayaw mag-consolidate. So it's really best na malaman po natin sino po ba ang willing sumama sa programang ito and then we will have the numbers.
15:13.3
Or rather, alam naman po nila kung ano yung mangyayari that they will be asked to assume, and I'm sure 100% will say yes, to assume on those small routes na sila po mag-takeover po.
15:26.1
There will be a process by LTFRB naman po.
15:28.5
Okay, sige. So ganito po, para mas madaling maintindihan ng mga kababayan natin, ang wisdom, ang katalinuhan po sa route plan ay para malaman mo kung ilang bang units ang dapat na bumiyahe,
15:41.5
saan saan ito, nang sa ganun po mayroong order, hindi sobra, kasi po ito po utang ito ng mga units, kinakailangan po kumikita ang kanilang ruta.
15:53.7
So kaya po mayroong plan para malaman mo kung ilang ba dapat ang kailangan ng mga bumabiyahe, nang sa ganun masiguro po ang kanilang kita, at ilang ba po ang kailangan, nang sa ganun din po tama ang servisyo sa mga dami ng commuter.
16:08.6
So yun po ang wisdom doon.
16:11.5
So yun po, ngayon baliktad, no?
16:13.4
Ang gusto po ninyo mag-consolidate muna, tsaka na magkakaalaman kung saan ba dapat silang bumiyahe.
16:18.6
Ano ba ang problema sa gobyerno na hindi nyo mauna-una yung route plan na sa logic naman, pati mga congressman sinasabi, yun naman talaga ang logical dapat, mauna ang route plan bago ang consolidation?
16:33.2
Ano ba ang problema sa gobyerno? Bakit po hindi matanggap yun o hindi gawin muna yun para po maging maayos po ang lahat?
16:39.9
Alam nyo, kaya nagkaroon ng desisyon that when the 70% was reached last year po, at re-design tayo ng DOTR, LTFR, Bisa Presidente, and the President approved, because there were studies na even at 60 or maximum of 65% consolidation, kaya na po.
16:59.3
Because in the first place po, unang-una, there are really routes na ikang excess na. Nakikita naman nila, ideal yun, static mong atay yun.
17:07.4
Eksametro man nila.
17:08.4
Eksametro man nila.
17:08.7
Eksametro man nila.
17:08.8
Eksametro man nila.
17:08.8
Eksametro man nila.
17:08.8
Eksametro man nila.
17:08.9
Eksametro man nila.
17:08.9
Eksametro man nila.
17:09.0
Eksametro man nila.
17:09.2
Eksametro man nila.
17:09.2
If you look at the numbers na talagang actual na bumabiyahe, at actual na nag-consolidate, umabot na ata tayo ng 90%.
17:16.8
So that is really a sign na yung numbers ng sinasabi natin, or rather may franchise, or may ruta, talagang sobra-sobra.
17:26.7
And also, yung papalit po ng mga sasakyan, para lang po makita natin bakit ganun yung pag-handle, ang mga papalit po ng sasakyan, example na po yung sa Class 2, kunyari yung Class 2 natin, yun po yung mga jeep, mga 20,000 pateo.
17:39.2
Ngunit ang papalit po is a modern vehicle po, na mga nasa 30, more or less.
17:45.0
So those are the things that LTF are be considered.
17:47.7
Unang-una, talagang may excess sa mga ruta.
17:50.9
Pangalawa po, yung papalit po ng sasakyan will be a greater in terms of numbers, which will cover, kunyari, 10 na lumang yung sasakyan po.
18:00.1
Tapos ang papalit dito lang, it will still cover the need of the riders.
18:04.0
So yung po yung siguro kailangan lang natin maiklaro, why?
18:08.1
Na si po bang even at 70 plus percent approved, okay na po yun?
18:13.1
And why, bakit, sabi nyo nga po, wala pa yung LP therapy or pwede na?
18:18.3
Because meron pong study sa LTFRB that that can still be done, implemented, even with such numbers.
18:25.5
Kasi nga po, meron talagang excess tayo.
18:29.0
That study, is it done by a professional group?
18:35.4
Scientific po ba yan?
18:37.3
O anong study binabagay nyo?
18:39.4
Can that be made public?
18:41.9
I'll be honest with you, this is what LTFRB sa pag-me-meet po namin.
18:47.5
But I will double check para sa inyo po yun.
18:49.8
Because regarding naman po kasi sa ganyang klaseng concern sa ruta, sa yun po, I'll be very honest with you Ted.
18:58.0
It is the expertise of LTFRB.
19:01.1
Sa tagal na po nila yan, sa years po nila yan, they can really make conclusions po.
19:06.5
You know, LTFRB can make conclusions based on distorted facts also.
19:16.4
Kasi itong sinasabi natin na plano, na una yung route plan, is based on a study.
19:22.5
Conducted way before pa sa inyong administrasyon.
19:26.4
Kaya ito, may science ito, may mathematics ito.
19:29.4
Itong LTFRB, based on what?
19:33.4
Based on presumption?
19:37.7
I mean, iba po yung usapin ng based on actual study, scientific, at doon sa presumption o assumption.
19:45.7
Sa atama ka, Ted, regarding such argument, just to be clarified, yung sinasabi po natin yung LPTRP, yung una, that was the time of Secretary Tugade.
19:55.0
And ngayon po, nagkaroon ng changes.
19:57.6
Because obviously, on the part of BOTR slash LTFRB, there are studies, there are findings.
20:03.8
That's why they made conclusions.
20:05.7
We made conclusions na tipo bang, oi, pwede nating isabay ito.
20:10.0
Parang siguro, it's hard naman po mag-accus tayo ng gano'n sa ating makasamang sa LTFRB.
20:15.6
That's why, on the part po ng BOTR po, siyempre po, dahil ang LTFRB kasama namin, naka-officina po namin yun, ginagabayan po namin sila.
20:25.2
And as of now, base po sa mga meetings namin and the things that they've been reporting, especially to Secretary Bautista,
20:31.7
eh, buo po yung aming pagsitiwala sa kanila.
20:35.7
That's why we were able to report it to the President and the President supported that report and made that decision.
20:41.9
But still, dagdag ko lang po, Ted, rest assured, hindi po kami, parabagang it's unfair kung hindi kami nakikinig na mga ganyang klaseng concern.
20:50.7
Because we have that responsibility naman po to make sure everything is good, is fine.
20:56.7
Dahil, gaya mo, ang concern po natin, eh, siyempre po yung mga commuters.
21:00.4
Yes, sir. May tanong na po si Chacha before po ay shift dito sa concern ng Francisco Motors.
21:05.7
Go ahead, Chacha.
21:08.0
Yusek, tungkol dito sa mga sumali na sa kooperatiba pero nagkakaroon po ng problema sa paghuhulog, no,
21:14.5
nung kanilang monthly dito nga sa taas ng presyo nito mga modern jeepneys,
21:18.9
may datos na po ba tayo kung ilan yung mga reklamong natatanggap natin dito sa mga drivers at operators na ito?
21:24.1
Yeah, yeah. It was asked earlier by Ted, ano.
21:26.8
I'll be very honest with you, wala akong datos in terms of percentage because when this information was given to us, no,
21:35.7
or rather hindi ko nahingi yung percentage and I gave them what's the percentage and lahat po ng artists and this is nationwide po,
21:43.5
it's a number na very minimal po.
21:45.9
Yes, ako po dito kasi I just came from OTC po, diba? The Office of Transportation Cooperative.
21:53.1
In fact, ako mas tutuko po dito kesa sa LTFRB a few weeks ago.
21:58.4
Eh, halos wala po kaming, or rather meron naman po kukonte na nagsasabi nga na mag-video.
22:03.3
Pero just to point out, Chacha, no.
22:05.7
Yung pag-wi-withdraw nila is not really getting out of the consolidation.
22:09.2
It is really transferring to another entity.
22:11.9
O, nabanggit nyo nga po yung kanina.
22:13.6
Kaya siguro, gusto nila po yun, parang ganun po yun.
22:15.8
Gano'ng katagal yung proseso ng pag-transfer nila into a different cooperative?
22:19.9
Alam mo, time frame yan ng LTFRB.
22:22.3
Kaya nga ako, I verbally said this sa aking mga cooperative.
22:27.0
Or rather, yung mga napunta nga dito, sabi ko, nako, okay yan yung decision mo na lumipat,
22:32.2
pero sana maabot natin ang deadline.
22:34.1
Kasi ang hirap ng magbibigay.
22:35.7
Withdraw ka, tapos hindi ka makalipat.
22:38.1
Baka mamaya, eh, pagdating ng April 30, parang nakalabas ganun, diba?
22:42.0
So, it's really important that the process will be fast.
22:45.4
Para if ever ma-accommodate yung pag-wi-withdraw nila,
22:47.9
makakalipat lang po agad sila sa gusto nilang cooperative.
22:50.7
O, at hindi sila magkaka-a-bear yan, no?
22:53.8
Tama po yun, yun.
22:56.0
Yusek, puntahan ko lang yung sinabi kanina ni Marval Buena ng Manibela.
23:00.4
Kasi natanong po namin siya kanina dito sa programa
23:03.8
kung kailan sila huling nakipag-ugnayan.
23:05.7
Sa LTFRB, ukol pa rin dito sa kanilang concern sa jeepney modernization.
23:10.1
Ang sinasabi niya, nung huli daw po na nakipag-panayan po yata sila
23:15.4
kay House Speaker noong January,
23:17.8
after po noon ay wala na daw pong paramdama ang LTFRB
23:21.5
o pag-reach out or efforts sa hanay ng kanilang grupo.
23:25.6
Ano pong komento nyo ukol doon?
23:27.8
Kasi syempre with other groups, hindi natin sure.
23:29.8
Baka kasi nakikipag-ugnayan po kay isa-ibang grupo.
23:32.6
Ganito muna, I'll touch dun sa group.
23:35.7
Ang sinasabi niyo po, I remember that we were in Congress
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tapos po nagkaroon ng announcement from Malacanang
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na magkakaroon na extension sa deadline.
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And I do believe pumunta po sila sa office secret ni Speaker Romaldes.
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Nandun po sila LTFRB Chairman Guadiz at saka yung mga board members.
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So after that, I'm not sure kung nag-meet na sila
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but I vividly remember what was decided by the President then
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and what was talked about.
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It was more of the extension of the deadline.
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Extension po, ano?
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Pero yung mga concerns na nasasabi po nila
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kasi there are things that they wanted na babaguhin doon sa ating guidelines.
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That is something that has to be, you know,
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i-discuss pa yan, hindi naman gandong kadali yan.
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In fact, several cooperatives po natin ngayon nationwide
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nagsa-set up na po ng meeting sa amin.
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After the deadline, they would like to meet with us
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para po lalong ma-improve po, no?
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So regarding dun sa grupo na yan, I do believe,
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I'm not really sure what happened.
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But I will go to...
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Kung Kamody po, sa Piston po, yung mga kaibigan natin sa Piston,
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last year I remember, siguro we had almost half a dozen meetings po
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with Kamody, katama po, even at the level of Secretary Bautista.
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So they had around five or seven concerns
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and majority po naayos na.
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So doon po yung proseso eh.
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Pero I think, to be really fair to the two groups,
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yung interest po sa pagkoconsolidate,
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parang doon po kami talaga nagkakaroon ng banggaan
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or hindi pag-aakit po.
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Napaka, yun na po ang medyo for both sides non-negotiable
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kaya deadlock ho dyan sa...
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So sir, ito lang po, no?
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Kung mamarapatin po ninyo,
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alam nyo na po yung concern ng Francisco Motors
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na kahapon po nakapanayam namin siya
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at meron siya hinaing sa DOTR at LTFRB
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dahil hindi po siya sinagot
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o wala pong paramdam sa kanyang LTFRB
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doon sa kanyang proposal
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na maganda po naman ang programa
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na binabanggit niya,
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magbibigay ng libring modern jeepney,
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at meron pa ho itong libring maintenance, etc.
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Pero hindi ito hong superhero program na kanilang proposal
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at ang LTFRB nga daw po
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ay despite the instruction of Secretary Bautista,
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hindi sila binabalikan for the longest time.
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Unfortunately, hindi ko narinig yung panayam nyo.
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With Elmer Francisco.
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But meron po akong awareness sa kanilang concern
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sa position ng LTFRB
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kasi ang ginawa ko nga,
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I tried and I got some documents po
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para magiging may clarity po tayo dito.
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Very true na several meetings po
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si Mr. Francisco with us.
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In fact, ako siguro twice na niya na-meet
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and I'm sure mas marami po siyang connection
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or meeting with LTFRB
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kasi doon po talaga yung concern niya.
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Ang pinaka-summary po nang alam ko
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is that he made a proposal to LTFRB
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parang four things po yung nirace niyang
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parang gusto mangyari
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or kung pwede mangyari
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para magiging matuloy yung programa.
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And I do believe those four concerns
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were addressed isa-isa po,
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in-address ng LTFRB
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through their planning and franchising division
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na umabot po sa level po ata ng board
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and then this was the basis of answer
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to Mr. Francisco.
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So, four things na parang hindi pwede
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Doon sa pata ka rin ng LTFRB
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so kaya nga parang hindi po pwede maka-accommodate
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which will go forward na
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yung special permit po
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ng hindi ingin ni Mr. Francisco.
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But ang pagkaalam ko,
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this is parang unofficial,
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parang may possible na gagawin ata si Mr. Francisco
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on changing certain things
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para ika nga ma-accommodate
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yung mga hindi pwede sa LTFRB.
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So nakikita ko dito, Ted,
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is that siguro kailangan
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tigit na kung sarili ko
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para maging reality
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kung ano yung pwede
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maging clear kung ano yung hindi pwede
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because after the consolidation
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there are a lot of period pa
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for us with LTFRB
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and then Mr. Francisco
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to talk on the concerns
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na nakikita namin gusto niyang tumulong
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ngunit medyo hindi pwede
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dahil may pata ka rin susunod ng LTFRB
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siguro po we will get this
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priority or chance
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The consolidation po
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para matuloy po yung programa
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or kaya po ma-accommodate
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Parang ganun, tutulong po.
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kung baga ano mo na mga concern
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na hindi pa pwede
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ano ba ang legal na maaaring gawin
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para itong programa
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mabigyan ng chance.
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si Mr. Francisco ulit
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kasi nakakuha kami
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ng statement ng LTFRB
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tungkol dito po sa
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proposal ng Francisco Motors
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pero I'll give you an example, sir.
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May kasabihan tayo.
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ang daming dahilan.
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I'll give you an example.
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Sa sinasabi po ng LTFRB,
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the LTFRB explained
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that the proposed route
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Kaluokan to Santa Monica Shop
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and Ride Novaliches,
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an existing route
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Transport Service Cooperative.
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eh hindi rota yan eh.
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Opo, sabi ng LTFRB.
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So hindi ka pa pwede
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sa iyong proposal.
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Pero sa sinasabi nyo ngayon
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na mag-consolidate muna kayo
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tsaka namin kayo bibigyan ng rota.
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kung gugustuhin ng LTFRB,
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eh pwede ho naman din pong
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Pag-aralan nyo rota
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at bibigyan ka ng rota.
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Mr. Undersecretary.
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kapag sinuri mo itong
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kanilang pahayag,
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isa lang ang masasabi mo dito eh.
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Andami nyong katwiran,
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pero pwede naman gawin,
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kung gugustuhin po ninyo
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at naniniwala kayo sa programa.
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ganun po ang reaction mo dito
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pag binasa mo ito eh.
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Lahat ng sinasabing dahilan dito,
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pwede naman nilang gawin.
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Ayaw lang nilang gawin.
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Yung things that were raised
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by Mr. Francisco,
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parang dinikit yan sa rules,
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but it means that
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there could be an appeal
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or baka mamaya may proseso,
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there are processes pa po
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Pero LTFRB has to answer po muna
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base sa kanilang rules po.
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Siguro yun lang po yung
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Yes sir, yes sir.
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Tama po din po naman ano,
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ito yung kanilang sagot.
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But bottom line nga po din dito,
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sa isang programa na gusto magbigay
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ng libring modern jeepney,
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palagay ko po naman,
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ikasasama sa gobyerno
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na pag-aralang mabuti
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kung meron ba hong magagawa
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na kasi nga pilot eh.
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hindi naman ito permanente.
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Pero pwede mong baguhin yan,
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kung ito ba yung uupra.
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we really appreciate
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na ito'y pag-usapan
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dahil bibihira po
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na magpaliwanag sa bayan
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para maintindihan po
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ng inyong kagawaran.
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Parang sinusukli ako lang naman po,
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yung ginagawa po.
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You explain things,
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we explain things.
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we do not agree on certain things
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pero at the end of the day,
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kailangan po magpaliwan
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para yung at least
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to clarify things
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and then makalma yung sitwasyon.
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Yun lang naman po
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yung ginagawa natin.
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Thank you so much po.
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Salamat na marami,
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at muli kami makikipag-ugnayan.
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Si Yusek Andy Ortega.
