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Catch our special episode on Rodrigo Duterte’s “as is, where is” deal with Beijing on the West Philippine Sea. We’ll be joined by former SC Justice Tony Carpio
Christian Esguerra
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00:00.0
Thank you for watching!
00:30.0
April 14, dito po sa ating Facts First Podcast.
00:33.6
Baka iba sa inyo medyo nagugulat.
00:36.0
O bakit nagpoprograma ka linggong-linggo?
00:38.3
Di ba Monday to Friday lang ang programa mo?
00:41.2
Yung live episodes?
00:42.9
Well, napaka-importante po ng pag-uusapan natin ngayong gabi.
00:45.4
So hindi naman po ito yung first time na nagprograma po tayo on a Sunday.
00:49.4
Dahil pag meron po talaga mga issues na sobrang importante,
00:52.6
e wag na po natin yung pagpabukas.
00:54.4
Ang pag-uusapan po natin,
00:56.2
ito pong issue ng secret deal
00:58.2
na inamin naman
01:00.3
ni dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
01:02.6
na ipinasok niya.
01:04.4
May karoon daw siya ng isang handshake agreement,
01:07.2
kasunduan,
01:08.5
dito sa Presidente ng China,
01:10.9
si Xi Jinping.
01:12.5
Tapos, syempre,
01:13.5
nagsalita rin si Pangulong Bongbong Marcos Jr.,
01:17.2
meron po siyang mga tanong
01:18.4
pagdating dito sa secret deal na ito.
01:21.1
Para sa kanya,
01:22.0
gusto niyang malama kung ano ba yung detalye nito.
01:24.6
Gusto niyang makausap.
01:26.3
Gusto niyang makita yung mga kongkretong
01:27.9
nilalaman.
01:29.3
Kung nakasulat ba ito, no?
01:30.9
Dahil tulad na iisip ng marami,
01:33.3
for an agreement as important as this,
01:36.0
something that concerns our
01:37.5
sovereign rights,
01:39.0
something that concerns the West Philippine Sea,
01:41.6
in particular, the Ayungan Shoal,
01:44.2
eh, di ba dapat nakasulat dyan?
01:46.1
Pwede bang handshake-handshake na lang yan
01:47.7
o sekreto?
01:49.7
And of course, ang development dyan, di ba?
01:51.2
Nagpreskon pa si dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
01:53.5
at muling ininsulto
01:55.6
si Pangulong Bongbong Marcos.
01:57.9
Sabi niya, eh, kung dumiretto ka lang sa akin,
01:59.5
nag-usap o nagtanong ka sa akin,
02:01.8
di ba, nalaman daw niya kung ano yung deal na yan.
02:04.6
Eh, in the first place, di ba,
02:05.8
sino ba yung may obligasyon na magpaliwanag
02:08.4
at
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magbigay na mas marami
02:11.7
o kongkretong impormasyon tungkol dyan sa deal na yan?
02:14.1
Di ba, ininsulto niya si Bongbong Marcos,
02:15.6
sinabi ni Duterte,
02:17.5
di ka nakagraduate, second year college ka lang.
02:20.4
Ah, gano'n, napakataas talaga
02:22.0
ng antas ng diskurso,
02:24.3
no? Paggaling kay dating Pangulong
02:25.8
Rodrigo Duterte. So ngayon,
02:27.9
usapan po natin yung mga implications
02:29.4
itong ipinasok, yung pinasok ng secret deal
02:32.2
ni dating Pangulong
02:33.9
Rodrigo Duterte, pagdating po
02:35.9
dito sa West Philippine Sea,
02:37.7
in particular, Ayungan Shoal.
02:39.9
I'd like to welcome to
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our program, si
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former Supreme Court Senior
02:45.6
Associate Justice, Tony
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Carpio. Magandang gabi, sir, and
02:49.6
thank you for joining us again dito po sa Factsverse.
02:52.7
Magandang gabi,
02:53.7
Christian. Magandang gabi sa ating
02:55.5
mga viewers.
02:57.9
First, sir, let's establish yung
02:59.8
what we know so far, based on the
03:01.9
pronouncements from the Chinese
03:03.7
Embassy, from Rodrigo
03:05.7
Duterte, from President Ferdinand
03:07.7
Bongbong Marcos Jr. Ano ba yung
03:09.7
alam natin, in concrete terms, dito
03:11.7
sa deal na ito?
03:14.0
Well, if you recall,
03:17.0
nag-umpisa ito
03:17.7
sa isang news item sa
03:19.6
Manila Times.
03:21.8
Sabi ng Manila Times,
03:23.4
quoting a
03:25.0
Chinese Embassy official in Manila,
03:27.9
na merong gentleman's
03:30.0
agreement, si President Duterte
03:31.8
with President Xi, na
03:33.6
ang pwedeng dalahin lang
03:35.8
sa Sierra Madre
03:37.0
ay pagkain
03:39.9
at tubig, at hindi pwede magdala
03:41.8
ng mga repair materials,
03:44.4
construction materials,
03:45.8
para i-repair yung
03:46.9
BRP Sierra Madre. At
03:49.7
lumabas naman si Harry Roque,
03:52.0
former spokesperson
03:53.7
ni President Duterte, na
03:55.2
totoo yan, may gentleman's agreement.
03:57.9
Eh, yung si
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Sal Panelo, another
04:01.5
spokesperson of President Duterte
04:03.5
and legal counsel,
04:06.0
nagsalita. Sabi niya,
04:08.0
I check with President Duterte,
04:10.2
walang ganyang
04:12.0
gentleman's agreement.
04:14.3
Sinungaling si
04:15.5
sinungaling si
04:18.8
Harry Roque
04:19.9
at publicity seeker lang yan.
04:22.2
So, for a few days,
04:24.1
ganyan, ano. Pero
04:25.2
biglang nagsalita yung
04:27.4
foreign ministry ng China,
04:29.1
sabi ng foreign ministry
04:31.1
spokesperson, totoo,
04:33.1
meron talagang gentleman's agreement.
04:36.2
Immediately,
04:37.6
si President, former President
04:39.2
Duterte, sabi niya, oh nga, meron.
04:42.2
So, kinonfirm ni
04:43.2
President Duterte na may merong
04:45.9
gentleman's agreement.
04:47.8
At saka sabi niya, yung gentleman's
04:49.3
agreement is just
04:51.4
status quo. At saka
04:53.3
yung status quo, meaning
04:54.8
walang
04:57.4
magre-repair
05:00.9
ng Sierra Madre,
05:03.6
walang
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gagamit ng
05:07.1
military
05:09.8
activity o
05:11.1
military pressure. So,
05:14.3
ang pwedeng dalayin lang sa
05:16.2
Sierra Madre, tubig at
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pagkain lang. So, walang
05:19.7
construction material. Kasi yun daw ang status
05:22.0
ko.
05:23.8
You know, yun ang facts, no?
05:26.2
So, ang
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analysis ko ito,
05:30.2
yun ba talaga ang status
05:31.6
ko when that
05:33.8
gentleman's agreement was made in
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2017?
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Totoo ba na ang dinadala lang
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natin noon in 2017
05:41.6
ay
05:43.1
tubig at pagkain lang?
05:47.4
Hindi.
05:47.9
Because, hindi totoo yan.
05:49.9
Hindi yan ang status ko. Kasi yung
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1999,
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sinadsad natin yung
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Sierra Madre sa
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Ayunginsyol, no?
06:01.2
So, yun na naging outpost natin.
06:04.2
In
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2002,
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three years later,
06:09.5
nagkaroon ng Declaration of Conduct.
06:13.0
Declaration of Conduct
06:14.8
by the parties
06:16.0
between ASEAN and China
06:18.4
at sabi ng
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Declaration of Conduct,
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no country will
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occupy unoccupied
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features
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as of 2002.
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Bawal mag-occupy
06:33.0
pag unoccupied yan as of
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2002.
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But if you occupied it as of
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2002, you can maintain it.
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If you have a facility,
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pwede mo i-repair. Yun ang kasunduan
06:45.0
sa
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2002 Declaration of Conduct.
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Yung
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Sierra Madre,
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andu na yan yung 2002.
06:54.6
When the Declaration
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of Conduct was signed in 2002,
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anduro na yung
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Sierra Madre since
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1999, mga three years na.
07:04.8
So, yung Sierra Madre,
07:08.0
hindi kasama yun sa
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prohibisyon. We can maintain
07:11.6
Sierra Madre, repair it,
07:13.4
because that is the status
07:15.3
ko when
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the 2002
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Declaration of Conduct was signed.
07:21.0
Klaro yan, kasi yung
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outpost natin sa
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pag-asa, yung outpost,
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ng Vietnam sa ibang isla nila,
07:29.1
outpost ng China sa ibang isla nila,
07:31.1
as of 1902,
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at 2002, will continue
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and will be repaired, will be
07:36.8
maintained. So, ganyan din yung sa atin
07:38.8
sa Sierra, sa
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Ayungin Shoal.
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So, ang status ko,
07:44.9
as of 2002,
07:46.9
we continue to repair,
07:48.6
we continue to repair
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Sierra Madre, at saka we can continue
07:52.7
to supply our troops there
07:54.7
with water and,
07:56.6
with food. So, mali yung
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sinasabi nila na ang
08:00.1
status ko, in
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2017,
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yung nagkaroon sila ng
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kasunduan, verbal, with
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Presidency, ang status ko
08:10.9
in 2017,
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tubig at pagkain lang
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pinapadala natin sa
08:15.8
Sierra Madre. So, yun
08:18.6
ang mali. Now, anong
08:20.3
meaning yan? Pag hindi
08:22.6
natin i-repair ang Sierra Madre,
08:25.7
ko-collapse,
08:26.6
yan, at lulubog yan, kasi
08:28.4
kinakalawang na yung
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superstructure. So, it
08:32.6
requires
08:33.3
continuous maintenance.
08:36.9
Pag hindi nito natin yung
08:38.4
repair, lulubog yan. Mawawala
08:40.6
tayo. We will lose our outpost.
08:42.9
Papasok ngayon ang China.
08:45.5
So, pag
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pumayag ka na hindi na natin i-repair,
08:48.9
parang sinasabi mo na, oh,
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aalis na kami dito,
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kukunin na ninyo yung
08:54.0
Ayungin Shoal. Yun ang
08:56.5
meaning. Pag hindi mo i-repair,
08:59.6
parang binibigay mo na yung
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Ayungin Shoal. Kasi hindi na tayo
09:03.0
tatagal doon sa Sierra Madre.
09:05.4
Second,
09:07.2
in 2017,
09:09.2
nagkaroon na ng
09:10.4
orbital award.
09:13.7
Ang orbital award is
09:14.9
July 2016.
09:17.0
So,
09:18.9
yung pumayag si
09:20.9
Duterte sa gentleman's
09:23.0
agreement, alam niya na na yung
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Ayungin Shoal na declared,
09:26.5
na na atin yun, part of our
09:28.3
EEZ. Pag part of our EEZ,
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we have the sole
09:32.6
right to put up a structure.
09:35.0
Tayo lang pwedeng tumayo ng
09:36.4
struktura doon. Tayo lang pwedeng
09:38.7
mag-exploit, kumuha ng
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oil,
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gas, o fish.
09:45.3
Hindi pwede ang China
09:46.4
magkaroon ng
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outpost doon. Hindi pwede ang
09:52.3
Chinese fishermen mangisda doon.
09:54.1
Hindi sila pwede kumuha ng langis.
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Doon. Tayo lang.
09:58.4
So, yung economic resources
10:00.8
sa atin lang, at we have the sole right,
10:02.6
ito ha, sole right to put up
10:04.5
a structure on Ayungin Shoal.
10:07.0
So, yun,
10:09.0
gineam up ni Duterte yun.
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Kasi pumayag siya na
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na hindi tayo
10:14.8
mag-repair ng
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hindi tayo pwede mag-repair
10:18.8
ng Sierra Madre. So, wala tayo.
10:20.8
Mawawala yung ating
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outpost doon. Yun ang problema.
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At saka sabi ni
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Duterte doon sa press conference niya,
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hindi ko nga alam
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kung ano yung Ayungin Shoal na yan.
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I do not know anything
10:34.5
about Ayungin Shoal. So,
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yung presidente
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entered into the gentleman's agreement
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pero wala siyang alam ng Ayungin Shoal.
10:43.0
Pero yung Ayungin Shoal is
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the very essence of the agreement.
10:47.8
Pwede ba tayo
10:48.6
to continue
10:50.8
there? Pwede ba tayo
10:52.9
pwede ba natin i-repair
10:54.6
yung Sierra Madre para hindi tayo
10:56.4
mapaalis
10:58.9
dyan o hindi tayo mawala
11:00.4
ng outpost sa Ayungin Shoal?
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So, for you
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to enter that gentleman's agreement,
11:07.1
pag pumayag ka doon,
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dapat alam mo ano yung Ayungin Shoal.
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Sabi Duterte, wala akong alam sa Ayungin Shoal.
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So, anong klaseng agreement
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ng pinasukan niya na wala siyang
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alam sa subject matter of the
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agreement?
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Bakit importante yung Ayungin Shoal?
11:22.9
Kasi yung Ayungin Shoal, mga
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20 nautical miles lang yan.
11:26.4
From Mischief Reef.
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Ang Mischief Reef is the largest
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air and naval base of China.
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Pinakamalaking
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air and naval base
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ng China sa Spratly.
11:38.3
E pag andyan tayo
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sa Ayungin Shoal,
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makikita natin, we can monitor
11:44.4
the Chinese. Kaya ayaw
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ng Chinese,
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ayaw nila yung presence natin sa
11:50.2
Ayungin Shoal. At saka yung Ayungin Shoal,
11:53.3
that is the gateway.
11:54.4
That's the gateway.
11:56.4
The gateway to Reitbank.
11:58.3
Kasi after Ayungin Shoal,
11:59.8
everything is submerged already.
12:03.5
Mga reefs don't
12:04.4
submerge at low or high
12:06.5
tide. Totally submerged. Pero yung
12:08.3
Ayungin Shoal, pag low tide,
12:10.4
makikita mo pa yung mga
12:11.7
rocks, no?
12:14.1
It is low tide. Kasi pag low tide,
12:16.5
makikita mo. High tide, wala.
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So, that is the ideal
12:20.3
outpost to guard, to monitor
12:22.3
Reitbank. Ano yung Reitbank? Reitbank
12:24.3
is very rich in gas.
12:26.4
Two or three times
12:28.4
more gas
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reserves than Malampaya.
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So, napaka-importante na
12:34.0
we will be in control of Ayungin
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Shoal. So,
12:38.6
yun yun. Pumasok ng
12:40.3
kasunduan si Duterte sa
12:42.3
Ayungin Shoal without knowing
12:44.2
what Ayungin Shoal is. Sabi niya, hindi ko nga
12:46.4
alam yun. Kaya ano klaseng
12:48.3
presidente yun? So, that is
12:50.5
the situation.
12:53.6
Okay.
12:54.0
Sir, direjihin na po natin ang justice.
12:56.4
Unang-una, itong
12:58.3
handshake deal na ito na inamin
13:00.2
naman ni Pangulong Duterte,
13:01.9
was this valid? And number two,
13:04.1
hindi po ba ito paguhudas
13:06.2
o pagdatraydor sa interes ng Pilipinas?
13:09.5
Well, definitely
13:10.5
dihado tayo, no?
13:12.2
Pag yung pumayag siya na hindi natin
13:14.2
i-repair, parang sinabi mo na
13:16.3
na sa inyo na ito, mag-intay na lang
13:18.0
kayong few more months,
13:20.1
lulubog na itong Sierra Madre.
13:22.3
So, aalis na kami dito.
13:23.7
Yan ang meaning yan.
13:26.4
So, talagang against
13:28.1
national interest yan. Pinamigay niya
13:30.1
in effect ang ayong insyaol.
13:33.1
Okay. Nabanggit niya po
13:34.5
justice yung 2002
13:35.9
declaration on the conduct of parties
13:38.5
in the South China Sea,
13:40.4
no? So, ang ganda
13:42.1
ng pagkakalatag niya po nun. Pero,
13:44.1
alam po natin, hindi po siya legally binding
13:46.0
and mismo China, vinylate po yan, no?
13:48.8
So,
13:50.2
should that still be part of the
13:52.2
equation? Eh, lalo, nanalo
13:54.3
na naman tayo against China in 2016?
13:56.4
So, don't you think ang conversation
13:58.4
dito, hindi nga dapat pinag-uusapan
14:00.5
dito yung handshake deal or what, eh?
14:02.6
Wala aking karapatan dyan in the first place.
14:04.7
I mean, that's really my opinion
14:06.6
there. Well, so far,
14:09.0
the parties are more or less
14:10.7
complying, no, with the
14:12.2
declaration of conduct. Kasi makita mo,
14:15.3
2002 yan,
14:17.6
2012,
14:19.4
China
14:20.4
seized Scarborough
14:22.8
Shoal. Pero hanggang ngayon,
14:24.3
hindi sila nagtatayo doon.
14:26.4
Just surround it with their
14:27.7
militant militia and
14:29.3
Coast Guard vessel. Kasi,
14:32.4
they don't want to be seen by the
14:34.6
world na vina-violate nila
14:36.6
yung declaration of conduct.
14:38.7
Hanggang ngayon, ini-invoke pa yun, eh.
14:41.0
So, it is
14:42.3
a restraint
14:43.9
on China. So, hindi rin tayo
14:46.7
pwede i-violate yan, kasi
14:48.7
sabihin ng
14:50.8
China, oh, kayo nag-violate. So,
14:52.9
free for all na ngayon, magbabiolate
14:54.9
na lahat. So,
14:56.4
everybody tries to
14:58.1
follow the
15:00.9
declaration of conduct.
15:04.5
Kaya lang, nakalagay doon sa
15:06.5
declaration of conduct, the parties
15:08.9
shall resolve the
15:10.6
dispute in accordance
15:12.5
with UNCLOS.
15:14.4
Importante yun. Okay,
15:16.7
walang gagalaw, restraint, you cannot
15:18.7
occupy and unoccupy
15:20.6
features, pero
15:21.7
you resolve your dispute in
15:24.6
accordance with the UNCLOS. Ngayon,
15:26.4
we went to UNCLOS in
15:28.4
2012. 2002 yun,
15:31.7
our
15:31.9
declaration of conduct, 2012.
15:35.2
Nanalo tayo.
15:36.7
Sabi ng
15:37.7
tribunal,
15:41.4
yung ayung insyo, low tide
15:42.8
yan, part of
15:45.0
the EEZ. So,
15:46.5
dagdag yan sa ating
15:48.0
legal
15:50.9
right.
15:52.3
Kasi, when we go to
15:54.9
UNCLOS, that is actually,
15:56.4
in accordance with the code of conduct.
15:58.8
Kasi sabi ng code of conduct,
16:01.0
you settle your, the parties will
16:02.7
settle the disputes in accordance with
16:04.7
UNCLOS. So, pagpupunta ko sa
16:06.6
UNCLOS, that is
16:08.0
complying with the
16:09.6
declaration of conduct. So,
16:12.8
we can cite both.
16:14.7
Both documents.
16:17.0
Both,
16:18.4
although declaration of conduct
16:20.7
is just persuasive,
16:23.0
we can still cite it kasi everybody
16:24.6
tries to
16:25.6
follow it eh.
16:27.7
Kasi, pag
16:28.6
annihilate mo yan,
16:31.2
you will be,
16:33.8
you will lose the moral high ground.
16:35.9
Even China tries to keep it.
16:39.1
Kaya ako lang po nabanggit
16:40.6
yun, Justice, kasi nga,
16:42.6
speaking of moral high ground,
16:44.2
I don't know kung merong ganun ng China ngayon,
16:46.0
dahil, bukod sa pambubuli nila,
16:48.2
they militarize the occupied
16:50.1
features dito sa
16:52.2
South China Sea. Kasama na po yung pasok na
16:54.0
pasok sa ating exclusive economic,
16:55.6
zone. So, wasn't that also,
16:58.0
yung artificial
16:59.5
island building nila,
17:01.4
weren't those activities
17:03.3
violative of the DOC?
17:05.3
Maski na hindi po siya legally binding?
17:08.2
Well, yung DOC
17:09.6
kasi,
17:10.6
ang pinagbawal,
17:12.8
you occupy unoccupied.
17:16.2
Ang sinasabi nila,
17:17.5
na-occupy na namin yung
17:18.9
Missifrip 1995 pa eh.
17:21.5
So, yun, pwedeng
17:23.7
may wiggle room sila doon.
17:25.6
Ah, but,
17:28.0
kasi nakalagay doon,
17:29.7
you settle your dispute in accordance
17:31.8
with UNCLOS, yan ang ginawa natin,
17:34.3
eh natalo sila sa UNCLOS.
17:35.8
Sabi ng UNCLOS, tribunal,
17:38.3
yung Missifrip, hindi sa inyo yan,
17:40.5
sa Pilipinas yan. That's part of the
17:42.4
EZ. So, dapat, doon sila,
17:44.9
dapat i-respeto nila yan.
17:46.9
Kasi kasama yan sa Code of Conduct eh,
17:49.2
na, sa Declaration of Conduct,
17:50.8
na, you settle your dispute
17:53.1
in accordance with UNCLOS.
17:55.0
Kaya, pumunta nila,
17:55.6
matay doon. So, sabihin natin,
17:57.9
oh, sabi ng Declaration of Conduct,
17:59.8
settle it in accordance with UNCLOS,
18:01.9
sinettle nga namin,
18:03.8
eh, China, you comply.
18:05.5
So, dagdag yun, no.
18:08.5
Yun, sir, yung ano,
18:09.5
yung accountability naman. Kasi isa rin po yan
18:11.6
sa mga binanggit ni President
18:13.1
Bombo Marcos. So, sabi niya,
18:15.6
if it's a bad decision, you're accountable.
18:18.2
So, ngayon, nililino pa nila
18:19.5
from the Duterte administration,
18:21.6
ano ba talaga yung pinasok na agreement.
18:23.3
Pero, in cases like this,
18:25.6
how do you hold the previous
18:27.6
administration, in particular,
18:29.6
the former President, accountable po?
18:32.1
Well, ang
18:33.3
tinu, ang, ano,
18:35.0
mga kaibigang po na lawyers din,
18:37.8
pinakita nila na
18:39.4
there is actually a provision in the
18:41.1
anti-craft law. Nakalagay doon,
18:44.2
a government
18:45.5
official who causes
18:47.5
injury,
18:50.8
injury
18:50.9
to the government.
18:55.6
Causing undue injury to the government
18:57.7
through manifest partiality
19:00.2
or gross inexcusable
19:01.9
negligence is liable.
19:04.8
Tsaka, penalty dyan
19:05.9
is 6 years to 10 years, no?
19:08.2
Imprisonment. Tsaka,
19:09.7
20 years and prescriptive period.
19:12.1
So, papasok yan. Kasi yung
19:14.0
gentleman's agreement talaga
19:15.8
will cause injury to the government.
19:18.1
Kasi, pinabigay mo yung
19:19.7
insyo ulit. Tsaka,
19:20.7
we have the right
19:22.9
to bring
19:24.3
repair materials.
19:27.0
You agreed na hindi tayo magdala
19:28.9
ng repair materials. So,
19:31.0
that is
19:31.5
causing undue injury
19:35.0
to the government. Mawawala
19:36.7
sa atin yung insyo ulit.
19:38.9
So, pwede pumasok yan dyan.
19:42.3
Okay.
19:43.1
Yung ano po, sir? Yung
19:44.5
tao dito. So, may mga pwedeng
19:46.9
gawin to hold the former president
19:48.8
accountable. Pwede ting dito.
19:50.7
Pero yung handshake agreement
19:53.0
na yan, hindi ba, if
19:54.3
effectively, na-rescind na yan nung sinabi
19:56.1
ni President Marcos, na kung meron
19:58.2
mga pinasok yung previous administration
19:59.9
sa agreement, I rescind it.
20:02.5
Was that enough po?
20:04.7
Yeah. Ang position natin,
20:06.8
kasi yung secret agreement
20:09.1
na yan was not revealed
20:10.2
to the public. Walang nakaalam yan eh.
20:12.7
Kahit na si President
20:14.1
Marcos Jr., nalaman nyo na lang
20:16.3
yung lumabas yan. Ako, nalaman ko na lang
20:18.0
yung lumabas yan. So, wala
20:20.1
sa atin nakaalam na
20:22.1
meron palang agreement
20:24.1
na ganyan. Now, if it is
20:26.1
not disclosed, it's not announced,
20:28.2
it will not bind
20:29.0
the government. At saka,
20:32.9
parang agreement lang
20:34.2
between two heads of state na
20:36.0
it will not survive
20:37.5
their term. Pag natapos na yung term nila,
20:40.2
hindi na pwedeng
20:41.3
that will bind the next president
20:44.1
kasi hindi nyo naman alam yan eh.
20:46.9
Wala naman nakaalam yan eh.
20:48.8
So, that is our position.
20:50.5
It was
20:51.0
hidden from the public.
20:54.1
Sila lang nakaalam.
20:56.4
So, it cannot bind the public, no?
20:58.8
So, yun ang
21:00.2
position natin. It will not
21:02.3
bind the next
21:04.1
president. At saka,
21:06.6
sinabi rin ng next president,
21:08.1
I refuse to be bound by that. I rescind
21:10.1
that kung adyan pa yan. So,
21:12.2
that's the correct way.
21:14.4
And, Justice, how do we
21:16.0
move forward from this? Kasi nga,
21:19.2
in China, pinalutang
21:20.2
yung secret agreement na yan for a reason, no?
21:22.7
Nilik nila yan siguro sa media.
21:24.1
Obviously, nilik nila.
21:26.1
So, meron silang target dyan. And, I think
21:28.1
this is part of their influence
21:30.1
operations. In the meantime, habang
21:32.0
nang bubuli sila, yung mga leader
21:34.0
natin dito sa Manila, nag-aaway-away.
21:36.7
Nagde-debate tayo.
21:38.2
Ano ba yung laman ng secret agreement na yan?
21:40.0
I mean, how do we move forward from this?
21:42.1
Hindi ba parang naiisahan tayo lalo na
21:44.2
napakiyotik ng domestic
21:45.9
issues natin dito
21:48.3
when it comes to that agreement? Nag-aaway
21:50.3
yung dating Pangulo at saka yung kasalukoy
21:51.9
ng Pangulo. In the meantime, China,
21:54.3
is still doing its own thing
21:55.7
dito sa ating sariling bakuran po.
21:59.0
Well,
22:00.1
tama ka dyan.
22:02.0
Kasi this is distracting us.
22:04.0
But, we have to face this. Kasi, alam mo,
22:06.4
sabi niya Duterte,
22:08.3
personal agreement lang yan namin
22:09.8
ni President Xi. Pero, yung China,
22:12.0
nagsalita sila, yung foreign ministry
22:14.1
ng China, nagsalita na
22:15.8
this is a state-to-state
22:18.1
agreement. This is an agreement
22:20.0
not between Xi and Duterte,
22:21.9
but between China and the Philippines. So,
22:24.1
iba yung kanilang narrative, ha?
22:26.6
They want to bind the Philippines.
22:28.8
So, magkakaroon tayo
22:30.6
ng away dito
22:32.5
sa China, whether the agreement
22:34.2
binds the Philippines or not.
22:36.3
Kasi ang posisyon nila, binding
22:38.1
on the Philippines. So, we have to
22:40.2
face that problem.
22:42.4
Kasi, they will tell the world,
22:45.2
eh, may agreement kami
22:46.2
with the Philippines na dapat na hindi nila
22:48.3
dalayin yung construction material, eh.
22:50.5
We have to explain to the world that
22:52.3
this is not binding on the Philippines.
22:54.1
Kasi, it was a secret
22:56.3
agreement between Duterte and Xi.
22:58.6
Walang nakaalam. So, we have to face
23:00.4
this. And we have to
23:02.5
explain why it's not
23:04.4
binding on us. That was
23:06.4
not declared. It's not an announcement
23:08.1
to the country or to the world.
23:10.9
So, it cannot bind
23:12.4
the world. Walang announcement, eh.
23:14.2
Cannot bind the Filipino people. Walang
23:16.2
announcement, eh.
23:18.0
So, we cannot
23:19.1
escape this because
23:21.3
nakikita ko na ang posisyon ng China,
23:24.1
eh, ididihin nila ito, eh,
23:26.6
na may agreement,
23:28.0
kinonfirm na ni Duterte
23:30.6
na mayroon silang
23:31.9
gentleman's agreement.
23:35.0
Ang next step nila, sasabihin nila,
23:36.7
that is agreement between
23:38.7
the state of China and the
23:40.7
state of the Philippines. Yun ang
23:42.5
next step nila. Sinabi na nila yan
23:44.5
sa kanilang press release, eh.
23:46.7
This is the agreement
23:48.6
between China and the Philippines.
23:51.7
Oo nga, eh.
23:52.7
Parang napaka-active po kasi
23:54.0
ng kanilang narrative, no, yung kanilang
23:55.6
influence operations na alam naman nilang
23:58.0
mali pero ipapakalat nila
23:60.0
at doon magsisimula yung
24:01.8
starting point ng mga discussion. Pero
24:03.7
paano po ba natin itong maganda
24:05.7
i-counter? Kasi nga, unang-una,
24:08.1
nanalo na tayo sa arbitral
24:09.5
ruling 2016
24:11.8
pa lang. So, sa atin malinaw
24:13.9
yung ayung insyol sa low tide
24:15.8
elevation. So, how do we
24:17.8
move from here, po?
24:20.2
Well, we would continue to
24:21.8
supply
24:22.5
eh,
24:24.0
share of matter with construction materials
24:26.2
kasi we cannot
24:27.1
we cannot say na hindi na natin
24:30.8
i-supply. Kasi that means
24:32.5
sang-ayo na tayo doon sa narrative ng
24:34.5
China. We must continue, no?
24:37.3
At saka,
24:38.2
we
24:39.7
we must think
24:42.6
of putting up another
24:44.3
structure. Kasi yung
24:46.6
share of matter talaga lulubog yan, eh.
24:49.9
We can
24:50.7
only repair it up to a certain extent, eh.
24:52.9
So, mag-isip na tayo, anong
24:55.0
itatayo natin doon? Because as the
24:57.3
as part of the EEZ
24:59.5
of the Philippines, exclusive right
25:01.3
natin na magtayo ng struktura doon.
25:04.0
So, ang suggestion ko, we put
25:05.6
up a lighthouse, a marine
25:07.4
research center, at saka substation
25:09.5
ng Coast Guard. Para meron tayong
25:11.7
Coast Guard vessel
25:13.6
doon. Pag inatake yun, we can
25:15.3
invoke the mutual defense
25:17.6
treaty with the US, no?
25:18.9
So, we maintain it
25:20.6
as a Coast Guard
25:22.7
substation.
25:25.7
Lastly, Justice, no?
25:27.5
Dito sa ginagawa lagi ang pambubuli
25:29.3
ng China dito sa ating
25:31.4
resupply missions, legally,
25:33.5
ano pa ba yung pwede nating
25:34.7
ruta? Ano pa ba yung mga
25:37.3
pwede nating puntahan po na
25:39.2
korte, for instance, dito sa
25:41.5
ginagawa ng China na pagganong?
25:43.5
Yung panghahara sa ating mga resupply
25:45.6
missions po?
25:47.5
Well,
25:48.8
pag
25:49.8
tatayo tayo ng
25:52.7
civilian structure like lighthouse, marine
25:55.2
research center, or substation
25:57.6
ng Coast Guard,
25:59.7
tapos hintuin tayo ng China
26:01.3
in constructing those structures,
26:03.9
those civilian structures,
26:05.1
we can go to the tribunal.
26:07.6
Kasi ngayon, hindi tayo,
26:09.4
we cannot go to the tribunal kasi it's
26:11.1
a military activity.
26:13.6
Resupplying BRT
26:15.4
Sierra Madre is a military activity
26:17.4
kasi naval vessel yung BRT
26:19.1
Sierra Madre is a military vessel.
26:22.0
And, and,
26:22.7
UNCLOS has no jurisdiction
26:24.4
over military
26:27.3
activities because China
26:28.8
in
26:29.8
2006
26:32.9
opted out
26:35.3
of arbitration when
26:37.2
it involves military activities
26:39.4
that is allowed
26:40.4
under UNCLOS. So, we have to find
26:43.2
a way to convert the activity
26:44.8
to a civilian activity.
26:48.3
Like pa paano po?
26:50.2
Yan, magtayo tayo ng
26:51.3
lighthouse.
26:52.7
To be manned by the Coast Guard.
26:55.0
Magtayo tayo ng marine research center
26:57.5
to be operated by the
26:59.3
UP Marine Science Institute.
27:01.8
At saka may substation ng Coast Guard doon.
27:04.0
We can park there,
27:05.9
station there, two small Coast Guard
27:08.1
vessels so that if that will be
27:10.0
attacked, it's still an armed attack
27:12.2
on a public vessel of the Philippines
27:14.0
covered by the
27:15.6
Mutual Defense Treaty.
27:19.1
Okay.
27:20.0
So, marina po yung mga options for the Philippines.
27:22.7
And maraming salamat po
27:24.0
Justice Carpio as always sa inyo pong
27:26.3
matagang pagpapaliwanag
27:28.7
dito sa mga bagay na napakalinaw
27:30.7
po na mali. Maraming maraming
27:32.6
salamat Justice and thank you for joining us
27:34.5
po tonight dito po sa Fox First.
27:36.6
Maraming salamat Christian. Maraming
27:38.6
salamat sa mga viewers natin. Good evening
27:40.7
to everybody. Magandang gabi po sir.
27:43.9
Yan po si
27:44.6
Justice Tony Carpio.
27:46.7
Piniliwanag po yung
27:47.6
mga problema, intricacies
27:51.2
dyan sa issue.
27:52.7
Ng secret deal
27:54.4
na pinasok ni mahal na
27:56.5
Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
27:57.9
with the Chinese President
28:00.7
Xi Jinping.
28:02.8
O kayo, mag-decide nyo.
28:04.8
Tanggalin nyo yung kulay ng politika
28:06.7
dyan. Sino bang tama dyan?
28:08.4
Sino mali?
28:11.8
Tama ba
28:12.7
yung pinasok na deal
28:14.8
ni mahal na Pangulong Rodrigo
28:16.8
Duterte?
28:18.4
Ngayon, nabuhay yung mga trolls na naman.
28:20.0
Late na kayo. Kayo yung mga trolls.
28:22.7
No? Pumabul pa kayo.
28:25.7
Tapos yung mga comments
28:26.7
nyo walang kakwenta-kwenta.
28:28.3
Lagyan nyo naman ng konting laman.
28:30.5
Medyo debatihin nyo naman ng konting
28:32.4
sustansya ng pinag-uusapan natin dito.
28:35.2
Yan. Huwag nyo gawing
28:36.4
badge of honor yung katangahan.
28:39.6
Okay?
28:40.6
So, maganda nga po pinag-uusapan
28:42.7
nitong secret deal na ito. Dahil
28:44.2
pag inisip nyo,
28:46.4
paano kung binibenta na pala interest
28:48.2
ng Pilipinas dyan? Ang problema kasi
28:50.3
kay Rodrigo Duterte, hindi mo alam kung
28:52.7
minsan kung anong sinasabi.
28:54.3
Seryoso ba? O nagjo-joke?
28:56.4
Hindi mo maintindihan minsan.
28:58.0
Siya mismo, ang gulo-gulo eh.
29:00.3
So, ang malinaw lang sa kanya,
29:02.7
napakahilig niya mag-insulto.
29:04.3
And more recently,
29:06.4
in-insulto na naman niya si Bongbong Marcos.
29:09.0
Sinabi, hindi ka nga naka-graduate eh.
29:10.8
Second year, college ka lang eh.
29:14.6
Ayos, no?
29:15.9
Ganyang kataas
29:16.8
ang level ng diskurso
29:18.0
pag galing kay Rodrigo Duterte.
29:20.5
Ayan, you be the judge.
29:22.7
Tingnan nyo mabuti,
29:24.2
sino ba rito yung tama at sino yung mali?
29:27.5
Ang sakin kasi,
29:28.2
dapat hindi tayo nag-aaway-aaway kung
29:29.8
issue ng West Philippine Sea
29:32.6
ang pinag-uusapan.
29:34.2
Hindi ko alam dito sa ilang mga tangan trolls dito.
29:36.6
Hindi ko alam kung magkano binayad sa iyo.
29:38.6
Sapat ba yan para
29:39.6
ibenta nyo yung prinsipyo nyo
29:42.7
o yung pagiging Pilipino nyo.
29:45.1
Yan ang hindi ko maintindihan
29:46.5
minsan. Actually, naintindihan ko.
29:49.5
Money talks.
29:50.5
Okay?
29:52.7
So, sa mga pinag-uusapan natin ngayong gabi,
29:54.7
okay na po ba kayo?
29:56.7
Papaalam na tayo?
29:58.3
Okay.
30:04.7
Gusto ko na magpaalam gabi na eh.
30:06.6
10.17 eh.
30:07.8
Pero may sumulput eh.
30:09.8
Kayo ba nagpasok nito?
30:13.1
Ba't may ganito?
30:16.1
Ang ganit na gabi.
30:18.2
Pwede mo makasigit?
30:19.4
Parang gabing-gabi na.
30:21.0
Galit ka pa rin eh.
30:22.7
Ganda-ganda nung usapan namin ni Jossie Scarapie.
30:25.3
Bigla kayong papasok eh.
30:26.9
Ano ba yan?
30:29.3
Parang galit ka eh.
30:30.5
Gabing-gabi.
30:32.7
Sunday ng gabi.
30:34.1
Dapat nagpapahinga mga tao.
30:35.8
Medyo agitated ka eh.
30:37.8
Kaya,
30:38.5
binanatang ko yung mga trolls.
30:42.4
May tinamaan eh.
30:45.2
Sabi ko, masamahan nga si Christian.
30:47.7
May mga tinamaan eh.
30:49.9
Wala akong pinapangalakan ng trolls eh.
30:51.7
Pero may mga tinatamaan eh, no?
30:53.7
Siguro na-insulto na nasabihang tanga.
30:55.7
Eh, hindi ba kayo tanga talaga?
31:00.2
Baka mas matalino.
31:01.2
Baka mas matalino lang sa atin.
31:03.2
Dahil naghahanap buhay eh.
31:04.6
Tayo hindi naghahanap buhay eh.
31:06.6
Ganun ba?
31:07.5
Teka, paano kayo sumulput?
31:08.9
Anong nangyari?
31:09.9
Ha? Eh, alam mo naman.
31:11.9
Chinese hacking.
31:13.9
Nak-hack na naman ako dito ah.
31:15.9
Ano ba yan?
31:16.9
Ayong background.
31:17.9
Mount Fuji ba yan?
31:18.9
Oo eh.
31:19.9
Hapon yan.
31:20.6
Hapon yan.
31:21.1
Trilateral yan.
31:22.1
Naman trilateral.
31:23.1
Hindi yan.
31:24.1
Ah, okay.
31:25.1
Hindi naman sa China.
31:26.1
Although yung pinapanood ko kanina, no?
31:28.1
Bago kita...
31:30.1
Bago kong kayo pinanood ni Justice Carpio, ay pinapanood ko kanina ay yung one.
31:35.1
China from above.
31:37.1
Sa...
31:38.1
Sa what?
31:39.1
Sa Disney Channel.
31:40.1
Ganda.
31:41.1
Ganda.
31:42.1
China from above.
31:43.1
Yung modern technology.
31:44.1
Tinignan yung Great Wall.
31:45.1
At saka yung Shanadu.
31:47.1
Sanadu.
31:48.1
Ni Kublai Khan.
31:49.1
No?
31:50.1
Eh.
31:51.1
Hindi ko alam na may ganun pala.
31:53.1
Magsubscribe na nga ako sa Disney Channel.
31:54.1
Mukhang maganda yan ah.
31:55.1
Oo.
31:56.1
Lalo na yung suggestion ko sa iyo.
31:57.1
Yung 90s.
31:58.1
Saan nagsimula ang social media tsaka yung mga magkagandang mga technology.
31:59.1
Yung ba yung sinegest nyo?
32:00.1
Parang huling yung message sa akin.
32:01.1
Check mo tong bagong Prime Minister ng Japan, Maria Ozawa.
32:02.1
Check mo yan.
32:03.1
Ayang.
32:04.1
Ayang ka na naman.
32:05.1
Iyan.
32:06.1
Iyan.
32:07.1
Iyan.
32:08.1
Iyan.
32:09.1
Iyan.
32:10.1
Iyan.
32:11.1
Iyan.
32:12.1
Iyan.
32:13.1
Iyan.
32:14.1
Iyan.
32:15.1
Iyan.
32:16.1
Iyan.
32:17.1
Iyan.
32:18.1
Iyan.
32:19.1
Iyan.
32:21.1
Iyan.
32:22.1
Iyan.
32:23.1
Ayan.
32:24.1
Iyan.
32:25.1
Iyan.
32:26.1
Iyan.
32:27.1
Iyan.
32:28.1
Ayan.
32:29.1
Iyan.
32:30.1
Iyan.
32:31.1
Iyan.
32:32.1
Iyan.
32:33.1
Iyan.
32:34.1
Iyan.
32:35.1
Iyan.
32:37.1
Iyan.
32:39.1
Ayan.
32:40.1
Ayan.
32:42.1
Ayan.
32:43.1
Ayan.
32:45.1
Ayan.
32:46.1
Ayan.
32:49.1
Ayan.
32:50.1
Okay, sige.
32:51.8
Mapag-usapan natin to.
32:54.3
Yan yung sulto na naman ni Duterte
32:56.2
si Bobo Marcos.
32:59.0
Ano ba meron sa taong yan?
33:01.4
Nung wala ko yan narinig.
33:04.2
Pinanood ko eh.
33:05.4
Yung kanyang press call nung Webes.
33:07.9
Webes, Merkules.
33:10.1
Mahigit sang oras eh.
33:12.2
May binanatan siya.
33:13.9
Minumura siya.
33:15.4
Hindi ka naman nakatapos ng second year college.
33:17.7
Nung una, medyo
33:19.3
kinabahan ako eh. Baka ako yung tinitira.
33:21.9
Naalala ko, mabot pala ako ng third year college.
33:25.3
Ah, okay.
33:25.9
Mali, mali, mali.
33:27.4
False alarm.
33:29.2
Iba pala yung tinitira.
33:31.7
Pero purumura. Purumura kaya Justice Carpio.
33:34.5
Kaya katinest ko si Justice Carpio eh.
33:36.7
Sabi ko,
33:38.0
mukhang you must be doing
33:39.7
something right dahil minumura kayo ni
33:41.5
Digo.
33:44.4
Wala akong yung sagot ni Justice Carpio
33:46.1
sa inyo. Wala akong.
33:47.7
Ano?
33:49.3
Pwede, pwede.
33:50.4
Who's this, please?
33:52.9
Who you?
33:55.7
Magpapaalam nga ako sa iyo na
33:57.1
pwede ko maggamitin yung salita kong
33:58.9
paborito.
34:01.5
Ano?
34:03.0
Deconstruct.
34:04.0
Ano yung din deconstruct?
34:05.2
Ano yung din deconstruct natin?
34:06.9
Kanina din deconstruct ni Justice Carpio.
34:09.6
Yung mga
34:11.2
statement, no?
34:12.9
Na contradictory statement
34:15.3
ni Digo, diba?
34:18.0
Oo.
34:19.3
Nilabas ni Harry Roque
34:20.7
na may secret agreement.
34:23.9
Kinontra ni Panelo.
34:25.8
Pausap daw niya si Digo.
34:27.1
Tsaka si Executive Secretary
34:29.8
Medial Day. Wala daw
34:31.1
secret agreement.
34:35.2
Tapos naglabas yung China.
34:37.0
Sabi, meron.
34:38.4
Sabi ng China, meron.
34:39.9
Mukhang mas papaliwalaan ko pa yung China
34:42.3
kaysa kay Digo.
34:44.6
Napilitang umamin tuloy ngayon si Digo
34:46.5
doon sa kanyang puweskon. Meron nga.
34:49.3
Maganda yung deconstruction
34:51.9
na ginawa ni Justice Carpio.
34:53.9
Pero yun diba classic Duterte yan?
34:55.5
Hindi mo alam kung ano yung sinasabi niya.
34:57.3
Ang description ko sa kanyang mga
34:59.1
salita. Parang ano eh.
35:01.7
It's like viewing
35:03.6
a Salvador Dali painting.
35:06.4
And it's not funny.
35:09.1
Parang stream of
35:10.1
consciousness kung anong maisip.
35:12.6
Ibo-bunga nga, diba?
35:14.1
Kasi doon sa gentleman's agreement,
35:15.5
parang hindi naman yung sinabi na gentleman's agreement
35:17.8
yun. Pero,
35:18.4
sealed with a handshake.
35:21.7
Parang hindi ko magtindihan.
35:23.4
Ano ba yun?
35:25.1
Sabi niya, hindi gentleman's agreement
35:27.2
dahil status quo lang eh.
35:29.8
Yun yung kanyang ibig sabihin.
35:31.4
Hindi ko pa rin magets.
35:33.0
Ang ginamit niyang term, status quo.
35:35.4
Ibig sabihin, walang gagalaw.
35:38.9
Pinapaalis nga natin yung China
35:40.5
doon sa kanilang artificial island
35:42.1
sa ating EEZ eh.
35:43.8
Na napanaluna natin sa Oklos.
35:45.5
Tapos, mag-agree tayo
35:47.6
na hindi sila aalis.
35:49.4
Tapos, tayo naman, meron
35:50.7
nabubulok na BRP Shera Madre
35:53.3
na sinusuplaya natin
35:55.8
para hindi gumuho.
35:57.3
Pero, ang ibig sabihin pala ng status quo
35:59.3
ay hindi tayo magsusuplay.
36:01.4
Ibig sabihin, inaprubahan niya
36:03.4
na gumuho.
36:05.6
Kaya, may method
36:07.3
yung kanyang madness eh.
36:09.0
May method yung sanity, diba?
36:12.0
Yun yung, kaya maganda yung
36:13.4
statement ni
36:15.0
Justice Carpio.
36:17.6
Kanyang ipakita yung
36:19.4
insanity.
36:20.7
At saka yung contradiction
36:23.1
sa mga statements
36:24.4
ni Digong.
36:27.4
Misa kasi, nalilito yung mga
36:28.8
mismo yung mga trolls na nalilito eh.
36:32.4
Nalilito nga yung mga trolls dito eh.
36:34.2
Hindi maayos-ayos yung mga
36:35.4
narrative nila eh.
36:37.2
Pinapahilit pa yung ulo ni Christian.
36:39.2
Hindi eh. Napaka-cool ko nga eh.
36:41.7
Napaka-cool ko nga dito.
36:43.2
Pag sinabi ko ng tanga at bobo yung mga
36:45.3
yung mga bayaran na dito.
36:47.6
Hindi mo nako galit.
36:49.1
Statement of fact lang.
36:51.0
Wala akong pinapangalanan, tinatamaan eh.
36:53.7
Pag sinabi mong bayaran, hindi lang troll siya.
36:56.9
Oo, may mga
36:57.5
analyst din.
37:00.1
Yung ba, nagsisurvey pa eh.
37:03.1
Kanina nga,
37:04.0
pinadala ko kaya Randy David
37:05.4
yung isang lumabas na scholar.
37:07.4
Sabi ko, kilala mo ba sa scholar na to?
37:09.2
Sabi niya, hindi.
37:12.2
Scholar ng ano yan?
37:13.4
Scholar, nagsisurvey sa China.
37:15.5
At saka, buwang-apalat sa...
37:17.6
foreign policy ni BBM.
37:19.2
E di pinadala ko sa kanya.
37:20.5
Kilala mo ba sa scholar na to?
37:22.7
Pasan naman, pasan naman.
37:24.4
Baka nakasalubo ka na sa Moraita yan.
37:28.5
Sabi niya,
37:29.6
di ko alam sa manag-scholar ito.
37:34.3
Pag scholar kasi,
37:36.2
mas pinagkakatiwalaan ko
37:37.4
si Randy David.
37:38.4
Kesa dun sa UST na elemental.
37:42.6
Baka naman yung sinasabi,
37:44.1
literal na scholar ng
37:45.6
ched.
37:47.6
Baka naman gano'n.
37:49.6
Pwede, pwede.
37:50.4
Kung magkapaaral.
37:51.6
E kahit hindi ako grammatik,
37:52.8
scholar din ako eh.
37:53.8
Ang barsitariyan.
37:54.8
Oo.
37:56.3
Ako, at one point in my life,
37:57.6
naging scholar din naman ako.
37:58.8
Pero hindi mo na ako magpapanggap
38:00.1
ng China analyst.
38:01.1
Ako rin, hindi na ako magpapanggap.
38:03.1
Pahit lang tayo dyan.
38:05.1
May meron-meron lang tayo.
38:06.5
At sinusunda natin yung mga
38:07.9
analysis ni Justice Carpio.
38:09.7
Oo, sumusulupot-sulupot minsan sa programa.
38:12.0
Meski patulog na ako,
38:13.2
biglang darating.
38:14.2
Next time, maggawa natin na special,
38:17.4
special effects.
38:18.4
Yung gumagano sa screen.
38:19.4
Umangat.
38:20.4
Umangat.
38:21.4
Umangat.
38:22.4
Kasi nung huli nangyari ito,
38:23.4
galing kayo sa impyerno, di ba?
38:25.4
Nung huli nangyari ito eh.
38:26.4
Oo.
38:27.4
Amoy asupro pa ako doon.
38:29.4
Oo.
38:30.4
Tsaka marami kinakasalubong sa impyerno, no?
38:33.4
Habang umaahon.
38:34.4
Marami.
38:35.4
Marami.
38:36.4
Okay.
38:37.4
Ang mga taksil takatray doon na nando?
38:40.4
Oo nga.
38:41.4
Ibig sabihin, nando pa sila.
38:42.4
Maski buhay pa.
38:43.4
Nando na sila.
38:44.4
Ganun pala yun?
38:45.4
Bagal na.
38:46.4
E ako naman,
38:47.4
wala na ako.
38:48.4
Di naman katak sila.
38:49.4
Ano ba?
38:50.4
Huwag mo lang.
38:51.4
Huwag mo lang.
38:52.4
Wala nang ganyan.
38:53.4
Wala nang ganyan.
38:54.4
Ano?
38:55.4
Yan ang problema rito eh.
38:56.4
Kinagaya mo si Digong, tsaka yung China, naglalaglagan eh.
38:59.4
Pati pa naman.
39:00.4
Okay.
39:01.4
First, may laglagan.
39:02.4
Okay.
39:03.4
Eto, pag-uusapan natin.
39:04.4
Eto, interesting doon.
39:05.4
Hindi ko na nabago itong ano eh.
39:08.4
Itong ating cargent.
39:09.4
Pagtsagaan na natin ito, no?
39:11.4
Oo.
39:12.4
Yung sagot ni Bongbong Marcos doon sa mga banat ni Rodelio,
39:16.4
mga banat ni Rodrigo Duterte.
39:19.4
Mukha bang calculated o mukha nakitaan na ng pagkapikon?
39:24.4
All of the above.
39:25.4
Tingin ko medyo piko na rin siya.
39:27.4
Pero at the same time, dahil doon sa kanyang saging approval ratings,
39:33.4
ay naisipan din niya na gamitin na.
39:37.4
I-vaporize na itong usapin ng West Philippine Sea.
39:41.4
Dahil ang taas ng approval rating dito eh.
39:44.4
Tsaka ang taas ng galit sa China.
39:46.4
So tingin ko it's partly calculated, partly galit.
39:50.4
Kaya yung kanyang horrified statement na napakahaba nung kanyang interview
39:56.4
na hindi madalas niyang ginagawa, eh nangyari.
40:00.4
Kaya okay lang sana eh. May sumunod pa siya ng mga statements.
40:04.4
Sabi niya na naniniwala siya talaga na merong ganyang klaseng secret agreement.
40:11.4
Sa kanyang pagkakapaliwanag,
40:14.4
ay talagang treasonous yung substance.
40:17.4
Hindi niya ginamit yung salitang treason.
40:19.4
Pero yun yung ibig niyang sabihin doon sa kanyang interviews na sunod-sunod nung habang nasa Amerika siya.
40:25.4
Nagulat lang ako na dinipensahan niya si Vice President Sara doon sa no comment statement.
40:36.4
Sorry, nagkamali ako ng pindot.
40:38.4
Wala ko na. Wala ko na. Wala ko na.
40:40.4
Wala ko na. Akibuloy na naman ako eh.
40:42.4
Take two, take two. Take two, take two.
40:47.4
Mamaya akong explain kung ano nangyari. Mamaya akong napapaliwanag ha. Sandali lang. Game, game.
40:52.4
Nagulat lang ako doon sa kanyang no, yung kanyang pagdepensa sa no comment statement ni Sara.
40:57.4
Kaya na po talagang sadya eh nung sinabi ko yung no comment statement.
41:01.4
Nawala.
41:03.4
At sabi niya, eh hindi naman niyang trabaho yan as Secretary of Education.
41:07.4
Eh, medyo mali. Medyo mali yung sinabi naman.
41:11.4
Sinabi naman, trabaho niya yun. Siya ang in-charge sa pag-educate ang ating kabataan.
41:16.4
Tapos ang kanyang statement doon sa pang bubuli, pananakit sa ating mga kababayan ay no comment.
41:24.4
Eh, mali naman yata yung statement ni President Bongbong Marcos.
41:28.4
With all due respect. With all due respect.
41:31.4
O sige, for a second kayong mga nanonood at nakikinig, tanggalin niyo muna yung focus niyo rito sa ating guest na obviously instigator. No?
41:41.4
Baka naman kaya naman sinabi ni mahal na Pangulong Bongbong Marcos yun.
41:46.4
Yung depensa niya. Pag-depensa niya kay VP Sara Duterte.
41:50.4
Baka meron naman siyang isang goal politically.
41:53.4
He wants to keep this Duterte, the daughter, within arm's length kahit papano.
42:01.4
Ayaw niya munang ilaglag. Kahit alam mo naman na mahirap paniwalaan na hindi sila nagpa-plastikan.
42:08.4
Ang suggestion ko na lang.
42:09.4
Ang suggestion ko na lang. Ang suggestion ko na lang.
42:10.4
Ang suggestion ko na lang. Ang suggestion ko na lang.
42:11.4
Ang suggestion ko na lang. Ang suggestion ko na lang.
42:12.4
But why not?
42:13.4
Yung submit niya si真的 Ayaw na siかmal nalilaglag eh.
42:18.4
Ayaw ka nalilaglag pero nilalaglag siya.
42:20.4
Sumama sa Liwasang Bonifacio. Sinortahan niyong gustong magpapagsak sa kanya.
42:25.4
Eh siya yung nilalaglag. Pero yun lang. Eh kung talagang gano'n ang kanyang pagtingin at gano'n yung kanyang, tawag dyan,
42:34.4
conflict averse attitude.
42:36.4
E di, good luck. No?
42:37.4
Good luck.
42:38.4
Sana hindi siya magimyusi later on.
42:40.4
Pero alam ko kasi, humpty-dumpty,
42:42.3
mahilip na isole.
42:45.0
Hindi, mayroon na mabuo.
42:46.8
Pero nga,
42:48.2
kasi nung minomonitoring nga yung mga sinabi
42:50.2
nung nasa Amerika siya,
42:51.4
nasa Washington,
42:53.9
may mga times na parang feeling mo
42:55.5
yung ante umaangat eh.
42:58.1
Minsan naman parang biglang bumababa.
43:01.0
Parang sabi niya,
43:01.8
hindi pa rin niya kinukonsider na
43:03.7
halaban ang mga Duterte.
43:06.3
Diba?
43:07.2
Tapos gusto pa rin niya makipag-usap.
43:09.3
But, I mean,
43:12.6
ano ba nakukuha niya rito out of this?
43:16.0
Hindi, sabi ko nga doon sa isang episode natin,
43:18.9
eh, syempre, nanalo ka dahil sa unity na yan.
43:22.8
Kahit malinaw na,
43:24.2
too much unity and disunity under the bridge,
43:28.9
too much water under the bridge,
43:30.4
at saka humpty-dumpty na,
43:32.1
eh, gusto mo pa rin i-maintain yung image na,
43:35.7
oh, hindi ako pan.
43:37.3
Yung leadership ko ay,
43:38.5
nagpapatuloy dito sa unity na ito.
43:42.4
Pero, yun nga,
43:43.1
kinokontradict na niya yung sarili niya.
43:45.3
At,
43:45.6
nagpupansya eh,
43:47.7
naghihirapan siyang ibalance yung pagiging strong leader
43:50.8
at yung unifying leader.
43:53.9
At a certain point,
43:55.2
kailangan niya magpasya eh.
43:56.3
Siya ba ay a strong leader,
43:59.3
a unifying leader,
44:00.5
o i-unify niya yung bansa
44:01.9
laban sa mga taksil?
44:04.1
Sino ba mga taksil?
44:05.4
Ang hirap ma-identify ko,
44:06.5
sino mga taksil?
44:07.3
Sino ba?
44:07.6
Sino ba?
44:07.7
Sino ba?
44:07.7
Sino ba?
44:07.8
Sino ba?
44:07.8
Sino ba?
44:07.8
Sino ba?
44:07.9
Sino ba?
44:07.9
Malinaw naman sa sinabi niya
44:09.7
sa kanyang interview
44:10.9
about the secret agreement.
44:12.4
Sino mga taksil?
44:13.9
No?
44:14.2
Ito ay,
44:15.1
itong agreement na ito
44:16.2
ay kontra sa ating konstitusyon.
44:18.6
Kontra sa ating national sovereignty.
44:21.9
Kontra ito sa lahat
44:23.2
ng ating pagiging bansa.
44:24.9
Anong tawag mo ron?
44:26.7
Anong tawag mo ron?
44:27.7
Di ba lumalabas na, no?
44:29.5
Ano ba nagiging,
44:30.3
parang imahe ni President Bongbong dito?
44:33.7
Mukha ba siya nagbumukhang weak?
44:35.8
O baka naman unifying?
44:37.4
Ano ba?
44:37.4
Ano ba?
44:37.5
Ano ba?
44:37.5
Ano ba?
44:37.5
Ano ba?
44:37.6
Ano ba?
44:37.6
Ano ba?
44:37.6
Tulad ng binanggit niyo.
44:39.3
Nagmumukha siyang urong-sulong.
44:41.2
Kailangan,
44:42.0
pumunta na siya dun sa aspeto na
44:43.6
ang i-unite na yung bansa.
44:45.8
Tapos na yung i-unite niya
44:47.5
yung Duterte at saka Marcos narrative.
44:50.4
Yung continuity
44:51.2
ng message ng last election
44:53.1
ng 2022.
44:54.4
Tapos na yun eh.
44:55.5
Tapos na yun, no?
44:56.6
Ngayon,
44:57.5
yung hamon,
44:58.4
paano mo i-unite yung bansa?
45:00.3
Laban sa isang foreign aggressor
45:02.1
na sinusuportahan
45:04.0
nung dati niyang
45:05.3
kay unity.
45:07.1
Ganun na kasi.
45:07.2
Ganun na kaklaro eh.
45:08.6
No?
45:09.1
So, huwag ka na mag
45:09.9
ifs and buts.
45:11.2
Huwag ka na mag-bacillate.
45:13.0
Huwag ka na mag-urong-sulong.
45:14.7
No?
45:15.1
Wala ka na makukuha dyan.
45:16.9
Wala ka.
45:17.1
Sino makukumbinsi mo dyan?
45:19.0
No?
45:19.7
Ang kumbinsihin mo na
45:20.9
ay kailangan natin mag-unite
45:22.4
bilang isang bansa.
45:24.1
Laban sa mga aggressor.
45:25.6
Katulad ng ginagawa
45:26.7
ng ating Coast Guard.
45:28.5
Diba?
45:28.8
Katulad ng ginagawa
45:29.7
ng ating mga frontliners.
45:31.6
Yun na yung unity
45:32.5
na habulin mo.
45:34.0
Huwag na yung unity
45:34.9
dun sa mga
45:35.8
Taksil,
45:36.7
Tridor.
45:37.8
No?
45:39.1
At mga
45:39.7
gustong pahinain
45:41.6
yung ating
45:42.9
Sovereign niya.
45:44.3
So,
45:44.8
ganun na.
45:45.2
Ganun na yung puntahan mong unity.
45:47.3
Hindi naman kaya na yan.
45:48.4
Parang pagtanaw din
45:49.2
ng utang na loob.
45:50.2
Tsaka siguro,
45:51.4
trying to keep the
45:53.0
semblance of unity
45:55.1
kasi baka naman politically
45:56.7
mas magkaroon ng
45:58.2
negative effect sa kanya
45:59.3
pag talagang naging
46:00.4
out and out
46:01.3
yung away nila.
46:04.2
At least from his end.
46:06.2
Well,
46:06.7
yung utang na loob,
46:08.1
okay naman yan.
46:09.5
Pero yung utang na loob
46:10.7
ay may pinagbabatayan
46:12.1
ng mga prinsipyo,
46:13.9
ng mga vision.
46:15.6
Hindi mo pwedeng,
46:16.5
hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon
46:18.0
ng utang na loob
46:18.8
dun sa
46:19.3
nagtataksil na sa bansa.
46:21.7
Hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon
46:22.9
ng utang na loob
46:23.6
dun sa
46:24.1
nagtatridor na
46:25.6
at ibinibigay,
46:27.6
pinapayagang ibigay
46:28.9
yung ating Sovereign niya
46:30.1
sa mga dayuhan.
46:31.6
So,
46:32.1
whether yan ay China
46:33.8
or ibang mga bansa,
46:35.3
eh,
46:36.0
dapat,
46:36.7
hindi ka,
46:37.5
hindi ka maghabol
46:38.5
ng utang na loob
46:39.4
sa mga ganyang klaseng
46:40.5
mga kaalyado before
46:42.6
o mga ganyang klaseng
46:44.1
mga
46:44.4
mga political allies before.
46:47.9
So, yung
46:48.3
yung political loyalty ngayon
46:50.4
ay dapat nakasalalay
46:51.9
sa national interest.
46:53.7
At,
46:54.4
may mga panahon
46:55.1
na binabanggit na yan.
46:56.5
Ang problema lang,
46:57.3
yung minsan
46:58.1
magbabackpedal siya eh.
46:59.8
Magkukan siya
47:00.4
para balikan yung
47:01.5
sabi mo nga,
47:03.1
utang na loob.
47:04.4
Eh,
47:04.9
false utang na loob yan eh.
47:07.4
Dapat ang utang na loob mo,
47:09.0
eh, may batayan.
47:10.1
At yung batayan na yan,
47:11.3
ay ano ba yung ikabubuti
47:12.4
ng bansa?
47:13.4
Kung hindi,
47:13.8
hindi yan utang na loob.
47:15.4
Baka ma,
47:15.9
mabahirang ka pa
47:16.9
nung kanilang pataksilan.
47:18.7
Diba?
47:19.6
Huwag ka naman magpabahit.
47:21.5
Ah, ganun.
47:22.5
Okay.
47:24.5
Okay, okay.
47:25.6
Mga pala,
47:26.0
may nag-comment dito, no?
47:27.5
Dapat daw,
47:28.2
ikaw ay advisor
47:29.1
ni BBM.
47:30.6
Ako?
47:32.9
Papasok na ba?
47:33.6
Baka naman advisor
47:34.5
na kayo ni BBM, ha?
47:36.0
Hindi nagsasabi.
47:36.7
Pwede, ha?
47:38.5
Hindi tayo pwede dyan.
47:39.7
Okay na tayo dito.
47:40.7
Mga pa,
47:41.1
singit-singit,
47:41.8
pangat-angat.
47:42.5
Pag merong,
47:42.9
merong guest,
47:44.7
okay na ako dito.
47:47.4
Yung panira
47:48.2
ng magandang episode, no?
47:49.5
Bilang susulpot.
47:52.3
Pag nandun tayo sa,
47:53.4
pag nandun tayo sa Malacanang,
47:55.0
hindi na tayo mag-guest dito.
47:57.0
Oo,
47:57.5
nalala ko eh.
47:58.8
Pag nalala rin ako nung host.
48:01.2
No,
48:01.6
nalala ko yan.
48:02.3
Nung nasa Malacanang,
48:03.2
yung Rural Llamas,
48:04.0
hindi ko nakitaan nino yan eh.
48:05.4
Napaka-soplado yan eh.
48:06.7
Wala eh.
48:08.6
Hindi ako inuintitahan ako eh.
48:10.2
Nang ANC na eh.
48:11.6
May mga paborito nila.
48:13.0
So okay lang naman ako dahil,
48:14.5
sabi rin naman ng boss ko,
48:15.6
kamisada magsalita.
48:16.5
Advisor ka lang.
48:17.8
Ah, ganun.
48:18.6
Eto,
48:18.9
nabasa nyo ba ito yung ano?
48:20.7
Merong interview.
48:21.5
Alam nyo ba yung Global Times?
48:24.3
Global?
48:24.6
Oo, oo.
48:25.6
Ito yung
48:26.4
Paragon of Journalistic Excellence and Virtues.
48:31.6
Yan po ay,
48:34.0
if I understand,
48:34.9
ano,
48:35.1
pinapatakbo ito ng
48:36.0
Communist Party ng China,
48:37.6
kung gusto nyo pong maalaman,
48:39.6
ang tunay na pamamahayag
48:41.0
what real journalism is all about,
48:43.5
ang babasahin nyo po,
48:45.1
Global Times.
48:47.6
Sarcastic po yan ah.
48:48.8
Sarcastic po yan.
48:49.8
Baka po akala nyo,
48:51.3
totoo yung sinasabi ko.
48:52.4
Sarcastic po yan.
48:53.4
Kasi recently,
48:54.8
ito,
48:55.1
April 12,
48:56.3
two days ago,
48:57.2
merong exclusive interview
48:59.0
ang Global Times
49:00.7
kay dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte.
49:03.2
Pag binasa nyo yung interview,
49:04.7
parang,
49:05.3
ah,
49:06.0
talino pa na talaga
49:06.8
ni dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte,
49:08.5
no?
49:08.7
Napaka-eloquent.
49:10.5
Kumaga,
49:11.2
alam niya lahat ng mga sinasabi niya.
49:13.5
Pati yung background sa trade,
49:15.1
et cetera, et cetera.
49:16.2
Galing, ah.
49:16.8
Medyo nabilibo ko ng sobra.
49:19.0
Medyo, no?
49:19.6
Nabilibo ko ng sobra
49:20.6
kay mahal na Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte.
49:22.7
Kasi pag pinapanood natin siya sa
49:24.3
kanyang mga speeches,
49:26.3
diba,
49:26.5
tulad ng pinakahuli,
49:27.6
yung in-insulta na naman niya sa BBM,
49:30.6
eh, rambling, eh.
49:31.4
Hindi mo alam kung saan hinugot yung thoughts, eh.
49:33.1
Pero dito, napaka-organize, ah.
49:34.7
Kaya, sabi ko,
49:36.2
wow,
49:36.9
ganun pala talaga
49:37.6
pag in-interview ko ng, ano,
49:38.9
Global Times.
49:40.1
Baka China yung gumawa
49:41.1
yung kanyang interview.
49:42.8
Kaya, organize.
49:44.2
Hindi, nakalagay dito,
49:45.7
pumunta rito yung reporters ng Global Times
49:47.9
para kausapin si mahal na Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
49:50.9
sa Davao, eh.
49:53.0
O, diba?
49:55.0
Kaya nga,
49:55.7
bilib ka lang, sobra pa, diba?
49:57.0
Talagang bilib.
49:58.2
Sobra talaga, nag-uumapaw.
50:00.0
Eh, kasi, ayun, no?
50:01.6
Nagsasalita na si,
50:02.5
maya, dinidiscuss ni, ano,
50:04.4
ni,
50:04.7
yung mahal na Pangulong Duterte
50:06.0
yung
50:06.4
Belt and Road Initiative.
50:08.4
O, grabe.
50:09.6
Hindi ko na,
50:10.2
hindi, parang hindi,
50:11.0
parang hindi siya nagsasalita rito, eh.
50:13.9
Sinabi ba niya na,
50:14.9
sinabi ba niya na,
50:16.0
yung commitment ng Belt and Road Initiative,
50:18.1
eh,
50:18.7
katiting yung pumasok dito?
50:21.0
Ah, parang hindi.
50:23.2
Pero ang clear dito,
50:24.5
binanata niya yung,
50:25.5
binanata niya yung America
50:26.7
tsaka si Bongbong Marcos.
50:30.2
Ayan.
50:31.7
Hindi, yung ganyan.
50:32.8
Yung ganyan, clearly.
50:33.9
Okay.
50:34.7
I mean, let's not be naive
50:37.7
sa mga ganyang discussions, no?
50:39.0
Kasi hindi mo naman makakausap
50:40.3
basta-basta ang
50:41.9
mga leader of that statue.
50:44.6
Pero for you to have
50:46.3
an exclusive interview
50:47.9
with the former president,
50:49.6
ibig sabihin, ano yan, di ba?
50:50.8
Kung baga merong agenda.
50:52.0
Tama ba?
50:53.2
Siyempre.
50:54.1
Siyempre.
50:54.7
Pero bilanggit ba niya dyan,
50:55.9
yung bilanggit na nung press call niya,
50:57.9
na ang kanyang iniiwasan
50:59.7
ay nuclear war.
51:01.3
No?
51:02.0
Alam mo ba?
51:02.7
Binanggit ba niya
51:03.4
kung ano yung mangyayari
51:04.5
sa atin
51:04.8
pag nagkaroon ng nuclear war?
51:06.7
No?
51:09.3
Alam ba natin
51:10.1
kung ano ibig sabihin
51:10.8
ng radiation?
51:11.9
O, di mo alam yun?
51:13.8
Hindi ko pa na...
51:14.6
Hindi ko pa nabasa
51:16.1
ng buo itong article, eh.
51:17.4
Kasi baka...
51:18.7
Panorin mo yung internet, guys.
51:20.5
At kalahating oras.
51:22.0
Hindi, hindi.
51:22.4
Itong article kasi
51:23.1
hindi ko pa binabasa ng buo
51:24.3
kasi medyo
51:25.6
nagpapahinga muna ako
51:27.1
sa pagbabasa ng fiction.
51:31.6
Mas gusto ko ng fiction.
51:33.6
Baka kasama sa...
51:34.3
Mas kasama sa Netflix yan.
51:35.3
Yung three-body problem.
51:37.1
No na sci-fi.
51:38.6
Hindi, kasi yan
51:39.4
yung Global Times.
51:40.3
Yan ang binabanata ni
51:41.3
Commodore G. Tariella
51:43.9
nung madalas
51:44.6
sa Twitter.
51:46.2
Lagi niyang kinokorrekt
51:47.2
yung disinformation yan.
51:48.8
Eh, kaya medyo
51:49.7
bulat na gulat ako, no?
51:52.3
Na nagkaroon siya
51:53.0
ng exclusive interview
51:54.0
with Rodrigo Duterte.
51:56.4
Yung Global Times,
51:57.2
iba naman yan sa Manila Times.
51:60.0
Parehong Times,
52:01.1
pero mag-iba naman.
52:02.0
Okay.
52:04.3
Bakit?
52:04.8
Ganun din ba yung Manila Times?
52:06.4
Ah, hindi naman.
52:07.2
Hindi naman.
52:07.6
Meron naman dumatitin ako.
52:10.1
Pero ang dominant lang kasi,
52:12.1
ah, yun yung una kong binabasa eh.
52:13.7
Parang ikaw,
52:14.2
babasahin mo Global Times.
52:15.9
Ako, papanorin ko
52:16.7
Fox News.
52:17.5
May daming lunatik doon eh.
52:19.3
At ang babasahin ko
52:20.6
itong Manila Times
52:21.7
dahil paborito ko
52:22.6
si Bobby Tiglao.
52:24.1
Saka yung mga ibang
52:24.9
katulad nito.
52:26.1
Magkaibigan ba kayo
52:26.9
ni Bobby Tiglao?
52:28.8
Ha?
52:29.9
Magkaibigan ba kayo?
52:31.6
Eh!
52:31.8
Eh!
52:34.3
Parang magsalita ko.
52:39.0
Dito,
52:39.5
lilinawin ko lang po ah.
52:40.8
Ang kaaway ni Ronald Llamas,
52:42.5
hindi ko kaaway.
52:43.5
Ang kaaway ko,
52:44.5
hindi niya kaaway.
52:45.7
Baka madamay ako.
52:46.6
Ang daming kaaway
52:47.3
yung tao na yan.
52:48.4
Kaaway mo,
52:49.0
kaaway ko rin.
52:50.3
Yung kaaway ko,
52:51.0
hindi mo kaaway.
52:51.8
Magkaiba yun.
52:52.5
Hindi,
52:53.0
laglagan to.
52:56.6
Parang ah,
52:57.6
parang si Harry Roque,
52:59.1
si Sal Panelo,
53:00.1
at saka si,
53:00.8
hindi ko nga,
53:01.1
laglagan.
53:01.6
Hindi mo alam.
53:02.6
Buti na lang.
53:03.7
Salit tayong,
53:04.3
kaya na,
53:04.6
na meron ngang deal
53:06.4
with President,
53:08.2
ex-President Duterte.
53:10.0
So,
53:11.3
kung kakasuhan mo si Digong,
53:13.2
eh,
53:13.5
China ang gagamit yung mga testigo.
53:16.5
Hmm.
53:17.0
Eh,
53:17.1
pero nga kasi,
53:18.1
parang labo kung anong laman eh.
53:20.1
Di ba?
53:20.9
Hmm.
53:21.4
Although,
53:21.7
inamin din naman ni President Duterte,
53:23.5
no,
53:23.7
status ko.
53:24.9
As is,
53:25.6
where is.
53:26.7
Oh.
53:27.8
Inanong siya ng inquiry,
53:29.0
doon sa press con niya eh.
53:30.3
Anong huba ang ibig sabihin niya?
53:32.4
Parang nalito na eh.
53:33.7
No?
53:34.0
Inanong siya ng inquiry,
53:34.1
doon sa press con niya eh.
53:34.2
Inanong siya ng inquiry,
53:34.3
Inanong siya ng diretsyo.
53:35.2
Ano ba?
53:35.6
Meron ba ho talagang secret agreement?
53:38.1
No?
53:39.0
Di ba dati ka inquirer?
53:41.3
Oo,
53:41.8
dati.
53:42.2
Siya ba nagtanong doon?
53:43.6
Ha?
53:43.8
Basta babae eh,
53:45.0
may nagtanong.
53:46.8
Parang,
53:47.2
parang,
53:47.6
parang,
53:48.2
parang nilawin nyo lang.
53:49.9
Ano?
53:50.8
Baka nalito rin siya eh.
53:52.4
Hindi kasi,
53:53.1
ayaw niya gamitin yung ano,
53:54.4
di ba?
53:54.8
Parang hindi niya ginagamit yung gentleman's agreement.
53:57.5
Oo.
53:58.6
Sabi nga,
53:59.4
ibig nyo,
54:00.2
ibig nyo ba sabihin,
54:01.9
tama yung sinabi ni Harry Roque?
54:03.5
Si Harry Roque nga ginagamit eh.
54:07.1
Sabi nyo,
54:07.5
oo.
54:09.4
Sabi nga nga pala.
54:10.6
Eh,
54:10.8
paano yun?
54:11.2
Di ba din?
54:12.0
Ang sabi lang niya,
54:13.6
hindi lang niya ginagamit yung term na gentleman's agreement.
54:16.2
Hindi nga daw niya alam kung nasan yung ayungin eh.
54:18.9
Di ba?
54:20.1
Presidente ka ng bansa,
54:21.0
di mo alam pa yung ayungin.
54:23.2
Well,
54:23.7
may kilala ko dati nga no,
54:25.0
mataas na official ng DT administration,
54:27.2
hindi alam kung nasan yung Benham Rice,
54:28.7
to be fair.
54:29.9
Ah,
54:30.6
hindi eh,
54:31.0
baka nalito siya,
54:31.6
kala niya kasi Philippine Rice.
54:33.5
Bibigyan ko na siya ng ganun pa.
54:36.1
Leeway.
54:37.3
Hmm,
54:38.2
ganun ba?
54:38.9
So,
54:39.2
anong,
54:39.3
anong,
54:40.0
teka,
54:40.2
hindi ba napahiya naman dito si ano,
54:41.9
yung isang magaling din na abogado,
54:43.8
si
54:44.0
Atty. Salvador Panelo?
54:46.3
Kasi dininay eh.
54:47.9
Oo,
54:48.1
definitely.
54:48.5
Merong gentleman's agreement.
54:50.9
Definitely,
54:51.6
pero,
54:52.4
dahil siya ay
54:53.4
abogado,
54:55.2
pwede niyang ipaliwanag yan.
54:58.5
O paano?
54:59.5
Yan yung mga,
55:00.4
yan yung magagaling na abogado ni Degong.
55:03.5
Na nilang depensahan nila yung presidente,
55:05.4
pero pag nilaglag na sila ng presidente,
55:07.5
ipapaliwanag nila na joke only.
55:09.7
O ipapaliwanag nila na,
55:11.4
hindi,
55:11.7
ganito ibig sabihin yan.
55:13.0
No?
55:13.5
Diba?
55:14.5
Kaya dapat believe ka sa mga ganyang klaseng abogado.
55:17.8
Anong nangyari dito?
55:18.8
Yung isang magaling din na abogado,
55:19.5
ayun,
55:19.9
magaling din yun.
55:20.6
Magaling siya ata.
55:22.4
Kahit nahuli na, eh.
55:26.2
Go, go, go.
55:27.5
Anong nangyari?
55:27.9
Hindi mo ba i-test dito,
55:28.8
yung mga magaling na abogado?
55:30.0
Magsabay-sabay mo sila.
55:31.4
Maganda yun.
55:32.9
No?
55:33.5
Si Roque,
55:34.3
si Panelo,
55:35.1
pagharap mo.
55:36.5
Hindi,
55:36.8
nabay ko minsan yun, eh.
55:37.9
Hindi mo na ako sinasagot, eh.
55:40.7
Si Attorney Sal Panelo,
55:42.9
ano mo mapapala natin
55:43.8
pag hines siya?
55:45.3
Madalas ko ma-interview dati yan, eh.
55:46.7
Ano mo mapapala natin
55:47.7
pag in-interview yan?
55:50.1
Ang mapapala natin,
55:51.5
ay matututo tayo
55:52.6
paano magsinungaling.
55:54.7
Eh, kasi dati, no,
55:56.0
naalala ko,
55:56.7
gines ko sa ANC yan, eh.
55:58.2
Pinag-usapan namin yung,
55:59.3
i-remember yung isang event,
56:01.3
I forgot kung saan bansa ito,
56:02.9
yung,
56:03.5
may hinalikan si Duterte
56:05.2
sa stage na Pinay,
56:06.7
lips to lips.
56:07.3
Oo, sa Korea.
56:09.2
Korea.
56:10.3
Oo, eh.
56:12.2
Anong sabi niya?
56:13.3
Ang palusot ni Harry,
56:14.5
ni ano,
56:15.0
ni Salvador Panelo doon,
56:16.9
it's like kissing your
56:18.3
granddaughter
56:20.2
or daughter,
56:21.5
ganun daw.
56:23.5
Hindi lang pedophilia.
56:27.2
Oo,
56:27.5
parang mahirap yata.
56:29.2
Imagine yun, ha,
56:29.9
nilalaplap mo yung ano, no?
56:33.5
Kaya baka sa akin na natural lang.
56:35.5
Natural lang yan.
56:36.5
Ha, ha, ha.
56:37.4
Medyo weird.
56:38.0
Ibang level,
56:38.5
ibang level din yung mga yan, eh.
56:40.0
Kaya nga,
56:41.3
kaya minsan mapapaisip ko eh,
56:42.5
dapat bang bigyan pa ng
56:43.3
plataporma to?
56:44.3
Pero nang time na yun kasi,
56:45.3
meron pa siyang posisyon.
56:46.8
If I'm not mistaken,
56:47.8
chief presidential legal council
56:50.4
or
56:51.3
tagapagsalita.
56:52.6
I forgot.
56:53.1
Yun lang naman yung dalawang posisyon, eh,
56:54.4
na, na,
56:55.2
na-occupy niya, diba?
56:56.5
Hmm.
56:57.3
Ayan.
56:57.8
Okay.
56:59.2
Ano ba pinag-uusapan natin?
57:01.2
Ha, ha.
57:02.3
Eto.
57:03.4
Okay.
57:04.7
Si Sarah Duterte, eh.
57:06.5
Oo.
57:07.3
Dapat ba nasa cabinet pa yan?
57:09.5
Given the,
57:10.2
eto, diba dati eh,
57:11.4
grabe na yung pagmurang tatay niya.
57:13.7
O ngayon,
57:14.1
in-insulto na naman yung presidente.
57:16.8
Kasi dinefend siya ni Bongbong Marcos.
57:18.8
Sabihin kay ko si Sarah Duterte,
57:20.6
what's the,
57:22.1
what's the
57:23.5
prudent thing to do?
57:25.6
Eh, kung may
57:26.5
konti ka man lang, ah,
57:28.6
konti na nga,
57:29.2
ounce pa, no?
57:29.9
Sabihin ko sana,
57:30.6
may konti kang ounce of self-respect.
57:32.5
Ha, ha, ha.
57:33.4
Eh, dapat kusa ka na.
57:35.2
Huwag ka na maghintay.
57:36.1
Huwag ka na pahirapan yung boss mo.
57:38.1
Lalo na kung yung boss mo, eh,
57:39.6
ayaw ka ipahiya.
57:40.5
E di,
57:41.2
irespeto mo na.
57:42.0
Ikaw na yung magkusa.
57:43.7
No, na,
57:44.4
na mag-resign.
57:45.0
Dahil,
57:45.8
lalo na,
57:46.3
may statement pa yung kapatid mo.
57:48.4
No, na,
57:49.9
ah,
57:50.4
na,
57:50.7
kwan, no?
57:51.6
Parang may hint na,
57:53.4
may hint ng kwan, eh.
57:54.9
Nang, ah,
57:56.4
very, ah,
57:57.4
strong antagonism.
57:58.4
Na, gusto ba,
57:59.6
gusto ba ni,
58:01.0
gusto ba ni presidente
58:02.1
na mangyari sa kanya?
58:03.2
Itong mga diktador
58:04.2
na namatay,
58:05.4
no?
58:05.7
Habang nasa posisyon.
58:07.0
Parang may gano'ng klase niya
58:08.6
not-so-veiled threat, eh.
58:10.3
May binanggit siya,
58:11.0
Mussolini,
58:12.2
Romanov.
58:12.8
Yan, di ba?
58:13.8
Romanov,
58:14.6
Mussolini,
58:15.2
et cetera.
58:15.7
Eh, alam niyo,
58:16.2
pinatay yun habang na,
58:17.5
habang sila yung mga pinuno,
58:18.6
di ba?
58:19.2
Oo.
58:19.4
So, may gano'ng veiled,
58:20.4
ah,
58:20.7
not-so-veiled threat pala.
58:22.4
Napanood mo rin pala,
58:23.3
yung, ah,
58:24.6
na,
58:24.9
Naninisip ko lang,
58:25.7
ang, ang takeaway ko ron,
58:27.8
ah,
58:27.9
nagbabasa pala siya.
58:33.9
Maganda ka.
58:35.1
Baka nakakita ka ng positibo
58:36.7
sa mga bagay-bagay na ganyan.
58:38.6
Oo.
58:39.0
Hindi, kasi, eh,
58:39.7
do'no,
58:40.0
baka naman binasa niya yun,
58:41.2
ah, yung mga historical account
58:43.0
doon sa,
58:43.6
Oo.
58:44.7
Yung paborito kong salita,
58:45.8
dialectical ka rin pala magsasabi.
58:47.5
Dialectical.
58:48.3
O baka naman,
58:49.4
baka naman nakabasa ng inang akla
58:51.4
tungkol doon sa
58:52.0
Last Days of the Romanovs,
58:53.5
di ba?
58:54.4
O baka yung mga
58:55.2
fictional,
58:55.9
fictional conspiracy theories,
58:57.6
ah,
58:57.8
buhay pa raw.
58:59.1
Yung, ah,
58:59.9
Oo,
59:00.3
ang sakit nung isa kasi,
59:01.1
hemophilia,
59:01.7
di ba?
59:02.5
Oo.
59:02.8
Yung, ah,
59:04.0
uniko iho
59:05.4
ni
59:05.9
Sir Nicholas.
59:07.5
Pero sa panahon ito kasi,
59:08.6
may kwala eh.
59:10.1
No?
59:10.4
Pag andyan yung Netflix,
59:11.5
binapalabas lahat yan,
59:12.6
di ba?
59:13.4
Disney Channel,
59:14.7
HBO Go,
59:15.6
Amazon Prime,
59:16.4
na nandyan.
59:17.0
Tapos may chat GPT pa.
59:18.9
Pwede mo namang
59:19.3
itanong yun doon eh.
59:20.2
So,
59:20.8
pwede ka namang panggap
59:21.7
na nabasa mo yung libro.
59:23.4
Di ba?
59:23.6
Hindi, ako pagtatanggol ko siya.
59:24.9
Tingin ko nabasa niya.
59:25.8
Tingin ko lang ah.
59:26.4
Oo.
59:27.2
Eh,
59:28.5
we can agree to disagree.
59:30.3
Hmm.
59:31.4
Yabo.
59:32.6
Mataas yung pagtingin mo sa kanila eh.
59:34.2
Ako hindi.
59:35.2
Mataas talaga.
59:36.2
Sige.
59:36.9
Sa akin kasi,
59:37.4
pag bumanit ka na ng mga Romanovs eh,
59:39.1
no?
59:39.4
Medyo,
59:40.3
wow,
59:40.7
medyo higher consciousness ka na ah.
59:43.1
Iniinday ko ako
59:43.8
mapupunta sa Bolshevik's Revolution eh.
59:45.7
Bolshevik Revolution eh.
59:46.9
Sabi ko,
59:47.3
baka magkaroon tayo ng konting
59:48.6
lecture about,
59:49.8
ah,
59:50.8
Tsarist Russia and,
59:52.2
ah,
59:52.9
Soviet.
59:53.7
No?
59:54.0
Yan, yan.
59:54.7
Yan.
59:54.9
Yan.
59:54.9
Yan.
59:55.4
Yan.
59:55.7
Yan.
59:56.0
Yan.
59:56.6
Kunti lang ka lang po dyan.
59:58.2
Pero,
59:58.6
pwede mo ako talungin,
59:59.5
no?
60:00.0
Hahaha.
60:00.9
Hindi,
60:01.0
huwag na.
60:01.3
Ibang kasabihin.
60:02.3
Oo.
60:02.6
Talagang talungin mo si Baste.
60:03.9
Ano bang ibig sabihin ng Romanov?
60:05.7
Hahaha.
60:07.6
Baril ba yun?
60:08.6
Oo.
60:09.1
Baka,
60:09.4
baka baril yan ah.
60:10.4
Hahaha.
60:10.6
Ano ba talagang ibig sabihin ng Romanov?
60:13.1
Hahaha.
60:14.4
Paano ba nagsimula
60:15.3
yung ah,
60:15.8
dynasty na yan?
60:16.7
Diba?
60:17.3
Hahaha.
60:17.8
Oo.
60:18.1
Oo.
60:19.0
Hindi naman niya sumulpot
60:20.1
na parang ah,
60:20.7
kabuti.
60:21.5
Hahaha.
60:22.3
Oo.
60:24.9
Ang nabasa ko kailan ba?
60:25.9
A few years ago,
60:26.6
no?
60:26.7
Parang meron daw segment ng
60:28.2
Russian population na alam.
60:30.1
Parang,
60:30.8
meron pagtingin,
60:31.6
no?
60:31.9
They wanted to return to that,
60:33.3
ano?
60:33.8
Oo.
60:34.4
To the age.
60:35.6
Hmm.
60:36.4
May gano'n.
60:37.2
Mukhang may mga kumpay,
60:38.2
may mga kamag-anak pala na tira eh.
60:41.9
Oo.
60:42.8
Oo.
60:43.0
Pero,
60:43.7
ang isa sa mga importanteng
60:45.0
characters doon si Rasputin eh.
60:47.0
Na,
60:47.3
alam natin,
60:48.8
meron din sa ilang mga.
60:50.8
Hahaha.
60:53.0
Sino ang mga Rasputin dito?
60:54.8
Hahaha.
60:56.0
Si Rasputin,
60:56.8
di ba ano rin yan?
60:57.7
May pagtabulang propeta yan?
61:00.0
Oo.
61:00.6
Parang pwede rin eh.
61:01.8
Womanizer.
61:03.4
Oo.
61:04.3
Sektab.
61:05.6
Oo.
61:05.9
Manyakis din yan eh,
61:06.9
no?
61:07.2
Oo.
61:08.4
Parang lahat,
61:09.5
parang lahat ng,
61:10.7
lahat ng sakit niya,
61:11.4
di ko yung binabanggit mo.
61:13.0
Hindi,
61:13.5
tsaka siya,
61:14.0
ano,
61:14.3
naalala ko na,
61:15.1
nabasa ko.
61:15.8
Ito naman,
61:16.3
nabasa ko talaga,
61:17.1
no?
61:17.2
Hindi man toot siya na
61:17.8
TPT.
61:19.0
Alam ko mabantot pa yan eh,
61:20.2
kasi galing siya sa isang,
61:21.2
ano,
61:21.5
sa isang ah,
61:22.6
parang liblib na
61:23.9
kumulidad.
61:24.8
Rural area.
61:26.5
Tapos he was able to
61:27.5
warm his way into power.
61:29.0
Tapos na-convince niya yung,
61:30.5
ano,
61:31.4
sa ina.
61:32.0
Nakakabot daw siya.
61:33.2
Saka hypnotic pa yung mata,
61:35.0
di ba?
61:35.6
Oo.
61:36.2
Na nakakontrol daw yung,
61:37.4
ano,
61:37.6
yung hemophilia ng bata.
61:39.3
Oo.
61:39.7
Huwag siya yung,
61:40.1
ano.
61:40.8
Saka ilang beses siya,
61:42.7
ilang beses siya sinubukan patayin.
61:44.3
Hindi mapatay-patay.
61:45.3
Lason,
61:46.4
barel,
61:47.0
saksak.
61:47.5
Patagal yan bago namatay,
61:48.6
di ba?
61:49.4
Oo.
61:51.3
Iyon yung classic naman
61:52.3
sa manta.
61:52.8
Oo,
61:52.9
masamanda mo.
61:54.2
Oo.
61:54.6
Pero oo,
61:55.6
patagal mamatay,
61:56.3
no?
61:57.2
Alam ko hinulog pa yun sa,
61:58.2
ano,
61:58.5
sa river,
61:59.0
di ba?
61:59.9
Hindi,
62:00.1
sa well.
62:01.5
Sa well.
62:01.9
Well,
62:02.2
well,
62:02.4
well,
62:02.6
well.
62:02.9
Oo,
62:03.2
oo,
62:03.6
oo.
62:04.0
Tama,
62:04.4
tama.
62:05.6
Ayun.
62:06.4
Ayun.
62:07.3
Hindi ko nakikinig sa atin si
62:08.5
Baste,
62:08.8
baka may natutunan siya.
62:10.6
Oo.
62:11.0
Hindi,
62:11.2
yun lang kasi,
62:11.7
medyo telling nga yun.
62:12.4
Nakita ko yung bahagi na yun,
62:13.4
no?
62:13.6
Binanggit niya,
62:14.0
Romanovs and Mussolini.
62:15.2
Parang ano ba to?
62:16.4
Tinatakot mo ba si
62:17.8
mahal na pahulong
62:18.6
Bongbong Marcos
62:19.5
na baka ganun yung
62:20.6
anahin mo?
62:21.4
Kasi brutal ang pagkamatay
62:22.5
ng mga Romanovs,
62:23.2
eh,
62:23.4
no?
62:23.7
Ano yan?
62:25.3
Ah,
62:26.0
saan ba sila pinatay?
62:27.4
Ah,
62:28.1
Yekaterinburg.
62:29.5
Oo.
62:30.4
Oo.
62:31.0
Akala nila dadalhin sila
62:32.2
sa ibang bansa
62:33.4
para exile.
62:34.1
Yung pula,
62:36.3
ayun.
62:37.2
Ganun yan, eh.
62:38.2
Wala yung legend
62:39.1
ni Natasha
62:40.1
na may survivor na yun.
62:42.3
Ah,
62:42.5
ano yun?
62:43.1
Ah,
62:43.5
kalokohan yun.
62:44.7
Oo.
62:45.2
Mga 15 years ago,
62:46.8
may lumabas sa
62:47.4
Inquirer
62:48.5
front page,
62:50.1
someone claiming na siya yun.
62:52.0
Hmm.
62:53.1
Hmm.
62:54.1
Hmm.
62:55.2
Ah,
62:55.7
obviously hindi.
62:56.5
Kasi,
62:57.3
ano na yan,
62:58.0
nagkaroon ng DNA
62:59.5
findings dyan
63:00.4
na talagang patay lahat.
63:02.2
Wala nakasurvive.
63:04.0
Ano ba tayo napunta dyan,
63:05.1
no?
63:05.6
Parang pinapa,
63:06.5
parang pinapamukha mo
63:07.6
na hindi nabasa, eh.
63:09.0
Eh,
63:10.4
ako kasi
63:10.9
dinidepensahan mo na nabasa, eh.
63:12.4
Ako may duda, eh.
63:13.2
So,
63:13.5
Okay, sige, sige.
63:14.4
Oo,
63:14.8
ah,
63:15.1
kasuko na ako.
63:15.8
Mukhang hindi nabasa.
63:17.0
Oo,
63:17.3
umabot tuloy tayo po
63:18.2
saan-saan,
63:18.7
pati kay Rasputin.
63:19.3
Okay.
63:20.4
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
63:22.2
Hahaha.
63:24.3
Hindi, pero kasi
63:25.2
sa mga administration,
63:26.2
minsan may mga
63:27.3
karakter na gano'n,
63:28.1
di ba, eh.
63:28.4
Rasputin yung taga-bulong,
63:30.3
di ba?
63:31.2
Oo.
63:32.1
Oo, may ganyan, no?
63:33.1
Sa...
63:34.5
Sa inyo ba?
63:35.6
Sa inyo ba?
63:36.0
Baka ikaw yun, ha?
63:36.9
Hahaha.
63:38.1
Kaya ako kaya
63:38.8
konting,
63:39.2
kaya ako kaya
63:39.8
konting masamang tao.
63:41.2
Para napalit
63:42.1
sa mga masasamang tao.
63:44.0
Oo.
63:44.6
Dito pa nung
63:45.4
nakaraang administration,
63:46.4
sino ba yung mukha Rasputin dyan?
63:47.6
Parang wala naman yata, no?
63:49.5
Sa...
63:50.6
Parang marami rong Rasputin
63:52.0
yung nakaraang administration.
63:53.8
Oo.
63:54.2
Ah, marami ba?
63:55.3
Oo, parang marami ron.
63:56.6
Oo.
63:57.9
Hmm.
63:58.8
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
64:00.8
Pagkatapos...
64:01.8
Kaya sa akin yung
64:02.4
pre-administration, di ba?
64:03.0
Yun yung nakaraan, eh.
64:04.2
Marami ba?
64:05.2
Oo.
64:05.8
Marami, marami.
64:07.6
Hmm.
64:08.6
Maybe na...
64:10.1
Isa-isa yun ba natin?
64:11.0
Huwag na, ha?
64:11.4
Hindi, huwag, huwag.
64:11.9
Hindi, hindi.
64:12.4
Ang nga pala, may silver rin yung, ano, ah,
64:14.0
yung discussion natin about the Romanovs, ha?
64:16.1
Kasi medyo naligaw yung mga trolls, eh.
64:18.2
Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.
64:20.8
Baka...
64:21.5
Baka napunta sila sa hanggang kung ano, eh.
64:23.5
Hanggang Roman Empire.
64:24.8
Dasa...
64:25.2
Oo, no?
64:26.2
Romanov.
64:28.4
Romanov po.
64:29.0
Yun po yung nga Roman
64:30.0
na nag-invento ng Molotov.
64:31.5
Yun po yun, Romanov.
64:33.0
Diba?
64:35.0
Yun po ang ibig sabihin nun.
64:36.6
Oo.
64:38.8
Ang nga pala,
64:39.1
ba't mukhang wala kang ginagawa ng Sunday night?
64:41.2
Anong, anong meron?
64:42.4
Sabi siguro ni Justice Carpenter,
64:44.3
ba't ba ako,
64:45.0
ba't ba ako napasok-pasok dito?
64:47.0
Oo nga.
64:47.9
Pero susalpot na.
64:49.7
Pasaway.
64:50.7
Ha ha ha ha ha.
64:52.0
Siguro,
64:52.8
nanonood pa siya, sabi,
64:54.3
ang ganda-ganda ng panayang, eh.
64:56.0
Tali-tali na, eh.
64:57.2
Parang nabahiran, eh.
64:58.8
Napaka-rigorous at napaka-desente.
65:01.2
Tapos biglang may,
65:02.2
may pinasulpot dito na po.
65:04.1
Sabi-sulpot.
65:05.4
Pasensya na po, Justice.
65:06.3
Biglang mo sumulpat, eh.
65:07.3
Hindi ko po mahiwasan, eh.
65:08.6
Talaga nandiyan, kumakapoy.
65:09.9
Kumagano'ng kanina po.
65:11.0
Nandito ako.
65:12.6
At least, umabot naman ang Churchill College.
65:15.1
Ah.
65:16.1
Kaya pala, ito, may nagpapatulong
65:17.4
kanina pang umaga, no?
65:18.7
Ah, ay kanina pa.
65:19.8
Kanina pa nung sumula, no?
65:21.2
Kayo ba'y naghapuna na?
65:22.9
Oo!
65:23.6
Busog na busog.
65:24.2
Kaya tingnan mo, malusog ako,
65:25.5
masigla, di ba?
65:26.6
Hindi ka tulad sa nakataan.
65:28.1
Hindi ka tulad sa nakataan.
65:29.2
Di ba lang?
65:30.6
Ang init ng ulo, grabe.
65:32.2
Raktang hindi ko eh.
65:34.9
Tapos nag-message ako after,
65:36.2
ang tagal sumagot.
65:37.7
Ha ha ha ha.
65:39.0
Sabi ko, mukhang,
65:40.5
ha ha ha ha ha.
65:41.0
Bakit tanim ng galit na?
65:42.8
Oo nga pala, may babatidin ako
65:44.1
dahil nung kumakain kami sa Italianist
65:46.2
no'ng isang araw nila, Glenda Gloria,
65:48.1
eh, biglang may i-wack up sa'kin
65:50.4
na si Fernando at saka si Susan Bacani.
65:55.5
No?
65:55.8
Talagang fans daw sila, fans mo daw sila.
65:58.8
Nadamay lang ako, no?
66:00.2
Hindi, damay lang ako dyan.
66:01.5
Dati raw natutunan sa atin, no?
66:03.4
Ganyan-ganyan.
66:04.1
Tapos nung isang araw naman,
66:06.1
dito sa book sales, sa Trinoma, no?
66:08.5
Ah, si Dr. Sarmiento,
66:10.8
kasama niya yung kanyang pamilya, no?
66:13.2
Oo, ano nangyari?
66:14.6
Ayun, sabi niya, nakikinig siya.
66:16.6
Sabi ko, sabihin ko sana, may natutunan naman kayo.
66:20.5
Doon sa...
66:22.6
Actually, yan din ang ano, o.
66:23.8
Yan ang layak kong sagot sa mga...
66:25.1
Kunwari, minsan,
66:26.4
paminsan-minsan lang naman, o.
66:27.4
Hindi naman tayo mga sikate, no?
66:28.6
Paminsan-minsan, may nakakakilala sa mall.
66:31.0
Sabihin, uy, napapanood ko kay King Ian.
66:32.4
Sabi ko, o, may napupulot ba kayo?
66:36.0
May napala ba kayo?
66:39.2
Gano'n.
66:40.3
Kulat nga ako doon kay Fernando, eh.
66:42.0
Ihakap ako, eh.
66:43.4
Sino to?
66:44.9
Sabihin ko.
66:47.0
O, yan po isang lesson.
66:48.5
Pag lalaki po kayo,
66:49.5
huwag po kayong basa-basa aakap kay Ronald Llamas.
66:51.9
Kung babae, okay lang.
66:54.1
Gagalit siyang pag lalaki.
66:56.4
Anong pangalan? Fernando?
66:58.3
Fernando at Susan,
66:59.7
tsaka yung Susan Bacani.
67:01.4
Fernando and Susan Bacani.
67:04.2
O, maraming magandang gabi po sa inyo.
67:06.0
Sino yung pangalawa?
67:07.2
Dr. Sarmiento.
67:09.2
Walang first name?
67:10.3
Sino?
67:11.1
Nakalimutan ko eh. Pero mukhang disente.
67:14.0
Ano ba yan?
67:16.1
Di pa kano'ng pangalan?
67:18.1
Baka nag-reunion kayo?
67:19.5
Ah, ito ba yung reunion ng wagpo?
67:21.8
Ah? Hindi, hindi.
67:23.3
Iba na yan.
67:24.7
Ah, iba.
67:25.8
Sunday yan.
67:27.2
Tapos may isa pa lumapit eh,
67:30.7
nasa Jollibee ako eh.
67:32.8
Jollibee ah?
67:35.0
May lumapit eh na ehersito daw ang pangalan.
67:38.3
Teka pagsanghan din.
67:39.4
Baka related sa ano?
67:41.4
Kay ER?
67:42.4
Pwede.
67:43.4
Kaya pagsanghan.
67:44.4
Pagsanghan kasi ako eh.
67:45.4
Lumapit habang magbabayad ako sa Jollibee.
67:48.4
Jollibee ah.
67:49.4
Nakikilan ba?
67:50.4
Baka nakikilan yan ah.
67:53.4
Oo.
67:54.4
So, alam mo naman ah.
67:55.4
Hindi ako pumupunta doon sa mga tambayan ni Christian Esguerra.
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Hanggang kaming tayo.
68:00.4
Ano ba?
68:01.4
Jollibee at tsaka mamonlok.
68:03.4
Saan ba ako tumatambay?
68:05.4
Ha?
68:06.4
Iba sa mga kuwang ah.
68:07.4
Sa mga...
68:08.4
Manila Pen.
68:09.4
Sa mga labi ng mga hotel.
68:11.4
Di ba? Diyan ka nakatambal.
68:12.4
Oo.
68:13.4
Hindi lang si Sulu.
68:17.4
Ang dami kasi ang politiko roon eh.
68:19.4
Sulu Hotel.
68:20.4
Hanggang ngayon ba?
68:22.4
Oo. Hanggang ngayon.
68:23.4
Yung mga labi, tambayan ng mga kwentan eh.
68:25.4
Mga...
68:27.4
Mga politiko.
68:28.4
Dahil dapat diyan ka kasi nakikita.
68:30.4
That's where you can be seen.
68:32.4
At ah...
68:34.4
Parang kuwang ka.
68:36.4
Medyo...
68:37.4
Medyo...
68:38.4
Arrive ka.
68:39.4
Arrive ka.
68:40.4
Hindi katulad nung mga iba dyan ah.
68:41.4
Nasa Jollibee.
68:42.4
Oo.
68:43.4
Hindi naman.
68:44.4
Hindi arrive yan.
68:45.4
Hindi.
68:46.4
Dati kasi nung...
68:47.4
Hindi naman no.
68:48.4
I'm not naming any hotel in particular no.
68:49.4
Pero minsan may mga na-identify ako ng hotel na infested ng mga trapo eh.
68:54.4
Parang doon nabubuo yung mga wheeling and dealing eh.
68:57.4
Nakikita ko lang.
68:58.4
Oo.
68:59.4
Oo.
69:00.4
Tama.
69:01.4
Gusto mo bang pangalala?
69:02.4
Kasi yung mga nakikita mo.
69:03.4
Hindi na.
69:04.4
Huwag na. Huwag na.
69:05.4
Oo.
69:06.4
Medyo dalawang naaalala ko eh.
69:08.4
Hehehe.
69:09.4
Ano pang hotel yun?
69:10.4
Nagkukwentuhan tayo nila ko eh.
69:11.4
Nila Ambassador Bataclan.
69:12.4
Dati natin...
69:13.4
Ano yun?
69:14.4
Desente yun.
69:15.4
Bacati Diamond Hotel yun.
69:16.4
First time ko nakapunta.
69:17.4
Across Greenbelt.
69:18.4
Mmm.
69:19.4
Diba?
69:20.4
Oo.
69:21.4
Hindi.
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Ayako.
69:23.4
Ang tambayang ko lang naman.
69:24.4
Yung mga Evergutesco Grand Central.
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Yung mga ganun.
69:26.4
Eh wala na ngayon yan eh.
69:27.4
Oo.
69:28.4
Mga Cherry Food Arama.
69:29.4
Yun yung mga tinatambayan natin.
69:30.4
Wala naman.
69:31.4
Try normal lang.
69:32.4
Okay.
69:33.4
Okay.
69:34.4
Okay.
69:35.4
Okay.
69:36.4
Eh pang mayaman pa nga yun eh.
69:38.4
Tayo, karaniwang obrero lang tayo.
69:39.4
Mas gusto ko nun dahil nakakakuha ko naman saanas na libre.
69:42.4
Oo.
69:43.4
Hindi nakakarating sa akin.
69:44.4
Idiin pa.
69:45.4
Wala pa rin ah.
69:46.4
Tagal na.
69:47.4
Hehehe.
69:48.4
Ibang mga saanas pwede mo parang ginagawa sa steak yung inaano, yung di na dry age?
69:55.4
Pwede.
69:56.4
Pwede.
69:57.4
Oo kaya...
69:58.4
Pag nating sa akin buto na lang no?
70:00.4
Hehehe.
70:01.4
Yung isa nilagay ko lang sa altar eh.
70:03.4
Hmmm.
70:04.4
Hahaha.
70:05.4
Hmm.
70:06.4
Oo.
70:07.4
May tanong si John Wanderer.
70:08.4
Tumatambay ba kayo sa podium?
70:09.4
Ah gusto ko sana eh.
70:10.4
Kaso malayo eh.
70:11.4
Tsaka ang traffic dyan eh.
70:12.4
Tsaka pang mayaman dyan eh.
70:13.4
Parang hindi ka pwedeng limandaan lang ang laman ng wallet mo dyan eh.
70:14.4
Pupunta lang ako dyan pag may sale yung gordos.
70:15.4
Ano?
70:16.4
Pag nag-sale yung gordos dyan.
70:17.4
60, 70 percent.
70:18.4
Ah oo.
70:19.4
May card ako no?
70:20.4
Gordos.
70:21.4
Oo.
70:22.4
Nag-sale dyan.
70:23.4
Mas malaki siya eh.
70:24.4
Mas malaki siya kaysa doon sa ibang gordos.
70:25.4
Kaya marami ka makikita.
70:26.4
Yung mga panluto.
70:27.4
Dyan.
70:28.4
Oo.
70:36.4
Kaya mabibili eh.
70:37.4
Which reminds mo.
70:38.4
Oo.
70:39.4
Kaya magkakaalaman no?
70:40.4
Oo.
70:41.4
Yung mga naghahamon na magluto.
70:42.4
Oo.
70:43.4
Gordos no?
70:44.4
Oo.
70:45.4
Nakahandaan na yung ano ko eh.
70:46.4
Kitchen knife eh.
70:47.4
Nakahasaan na eh.
70:48.4
Ah.
70:49.4
Tagal ko na nabinig yan.
70:50.4
Tagal ko na nabinig yung mga ganyan.
70:51.4
Hmm.
70:52.4
Okay na.
70:53.4
Gabi na.
70:54.4
Oo.
70:55.4
Pagkainan tayo ulit eh.
70:56.4
Baka bukas na.
70:57.4
Oo.
70:58.4
Sige.
70:59.4
Oo.
71:00.4
Maraming salamat.
71:01.4
Oo.
71:02.4
Sige.
71:03.4
Pag wala.
71:04.4
Pag may nakita mo.
71:05.4
Oo.
71:06.4
Pag wala akong ah decenting diskusyon, sisigin tayo para.
71:09.4
Oo.
71:10.4
No, no.
71:11.4
Next time ano.
71:12.4
I-standalone tayo ulit.
71:13.4
Nagulat na ako.
71:14.4
Biglang sumulupot.
71:15.4
Hindi, hindi.
71:16.4
Ininvite ko po si ano.
71:17.4
Si Mr. Ronald Llamas.
71:18.4
At antagal na lead tayo ng invitation ko sa kanya.
71:19.4
Ininvite ko siya siguro mga nine.
71:22.4
Hindi, hindi.
71:23.4
Mga nine.
71:24.4
Nine fifteen.
71:25.4
Hindi naman.
71:26.4
Oo.
71:27.4
Oo.
71:28.4
Oo talaga.
71:29.4
Ano ba?
71:30.4
Fake news ka.
71:31.4
Fake news ka.
71:32.4
Decent discussion.
71:33.4
Nakala ko ba naman.
71:34.4
Ikaw yung paragon.
71:35.4
Ano ba sabi ko?
71:36.4
Ano ba ako nag-invite?
71:37.4
LSGs?
71:38.4
Nine fifty plus.
71:39.4
Nine fifty five.
71:40.4
Hindi, hindi.
71:41.4
Hindi, hindi.
71:42.4
Babalikan ko.
71:43.4
Babalikan ko.
71:44.4
Oo.
71:45.4
Kalagitnaan po ng interview with Justice Carpio.
71:47.4
Ah, hindi.
71:48.4
Grabe.
71:49.4
Ang kapal ko.
71:50.4
Oo.
71:51.4
Ininvite ko siya ten oh six.
71:52.4
Oo.
71:53.4
Di ba?
71:54.4
Oo.
71:55.4
Di ba?
71:56.4
Oo.
71:57.4
Sabi ko, ginagawa ko sa buhay to.
71:58.4
Sabi niya, pwede.
71:59.4
Always available.
72:00.4
Available.
72:01.4
Oo.
72:02.4
Oo.
72:03.4
Oo.
72:04.4
Oo.
72:05.4
Oo.
72:06.4
Sabi ko.
72:07.4
urespo.
72:08.4
Okay.
72:09.4
Oo.
72:10.4
O sige, sige.
72:11.4
Kita, kita tayo soon ah.
72:12.4
Kitakits.
72:13.4
Ah.
72:14.4
Sa panggit ng gabi po.
72:15.4
Long time na usin.
72:16.4
Ah.
72:17.4
Sige, oo.
72:18.4
Nabiss ko si Ronald Yamas eh.
72:19.4
Ang tagal kami hindi nagkakausap eh.
72:21.4
Parang tatlong araw lang.
72:22.4
Oo.
72:23.4
Sige, sige.
72:24.4
Sabi ko.
72:25.4
одali.
72:26.4
Mga salamat!
72:27.4
Good night.
72:28.4
Happy Sunday!
72:29.4
Oh.
72:30.4
Thank you.
72:31.4
Okay.
72:32.4
Kayana.
72:33.4
Okay na.
72:34.4
Tama na.
72:35.4
si Professor J. Batong-Bakal.
72:37.7
Pag-uusapan pa rin po natin itong
72:39.1
secret deal na pinasok
72:40.7
ni Rodrigo Duterte sa China.
72:43.4
Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.
72:45.5
And maraming maraming salamat po sa mga
72:47.5
sumama po sa ating diskusyon
72:49.6
miski Sunday ng gabi.
72:51.5
Maraming maraming salamat po.
72:53.1
Okay? Thank you, thank you, thank you po
72:55.3
sa inyong lahat. Ako po si Christian Esguerra.
72:58.1
See you tomorrow
72:59.4
dito po sa Facts First. Magandang gabi po.
73:05.4
Thank you for watching!