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SENATE 2025: BASTE & BEN TULFO!????
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00:00.0
Okay, guys. Tama na yan.
00:02.0
Gentleman tayo.
00:03.5
Bila mga gentleman, I think dapat
00:05.6
pag-usapan natin. Eto na.
00:08.5
Mark, gusto ko makuha
00:09.8
yung sagot mo bago yung
00:11.6
mas mahabang sagot ni Ronald.
00:13.8
Eto, nilagay na si Baste
00:15.1
at si Ben. Ben and
00:18.1
Bas. Bas and Ben.
00:19.8
B and B. Diba? Nilagay sila
00:21.7
dun sa survey ng OCTA.
00:23.9
Ibang klase. Si Ben nag number
00:25.8
four. Number
00:27.4
four. Ben
00:29.9
don't warehouse. Number four.
00:32.1
Number four. Siya no.
00:33.6
Ibang don't warehouse.
00:35.2
Ang taas na hagulat. Pero I think
00:37.2
it shows
00:39.9
more about ano eh. Yung strength
00:41.8
ng Tulfo brand eh. Yung strength
00:43.9
ni Rafi Tulfo. Nakahit yung kanyang
00:45.8
pangatlong kapatid na
00:47.7
papasok. Eh nasa top.
00:50.7
Oo eh. Top
00:51.7
four. Anong number si Ben?
00:53.6
Top four? Top five ba?
00:55.3
Four. Four diba?
00:57.0
Talagang mag-iisip na yan kung paano tumakbo.
00:59.3
Ngayon,
00:59.9
ang para sa akin, ang issue
01:01.7
na lang nila, paano palalabasin
01:04.0
na hindi naman masyadong ano na dalawa-dalawa
01:06.1
silang tatakbo.
01:07.8
O kaya maaaring itong si Ben
01:09.7
ang nandoon sa side ng mga
01:11.3
DBS. Si
01:13.4
Erwin ang nasa admin.
01:16.8
Para jinger
01:17.8
JV. Diba?
01:19.9
Jinger JV eh. Tapos nakalusot pareho.
01:22.6
O kasi mukhang magkaawa
01:24.0
yung magkapatid. Si the good one.
01:25.6
Tsaka si the sexy one. Diba?
01:27.5
Pero dito, may isang
01:29.3
may isang admin, may isang
01:33.0
DDS. O pwede na kami tumakbo pareho.
01:36.7
Tapos kung mananalo sila pareho,
01:38.4
may titrim sa Senado.
01:40.3
Tatlo. Maging tatlo sila.
01:42.6
Rinig ko nga sila.
01:44.0
Ronald, rinig ko nga yung kuya nila.
01:45.9
Sabi nila, wait lang, wait lang.
01:48.3
Akong nauna dito, bakit
01:50.2
kayong tatlong tumatakbo dyan?
01:52.1
Parang halos shoo-in na silang
01:53.5
In fact, interestingly, bago natin
01:55.6
pag-usapan si Baste, parang
01:57.4
delikado na si Aimee ngayon.
01:59.3
Medyo barely top 10 na si Aimee.
02:01.6
Medyo papunta na siya dun sa
02:03.0
In fact, I think Isco, Aimee, and all are
02:05.2
halos the same. Diba? Parang number 9
02:07.4
onwards. And si
02:08.5
Doc Willie Ong. Diba? Parang naging
02:11.1
sobrang competitive pala ito pag tumakbo
02:13.4
rin si Ben Tulfo. Now,
02:15.3
Baste is a bit lower.
02:17.2
But if the tatay doesn't run,
02:20.1
dahil siguro si Gibolay pa rin
02:21.5
ang matupag niya,
02:23.2
akit for sure si Baste. So,
02:25.5
crazy tong race. Biglang,
02:26.9
even Aimee is not very sure dito.
02:29.3
Anong basa mo dito? Ben number
02:31.2
4, Erwin still number
02:33.0
1, Baste potentially moving
02:35.1
off if Duterte not coming in. Aimee
02:37.3
barely in top 8, top 9.
02:39.1
What's going on there? Well, una,
02:41.2
kung titignan mo yung mga surveys sa presidential,
02:44.1
halos hindi magkaiba.
02:45.7
Yung OCTA, yung
02:47.0
PALS, no? Kung titignan mo yung
02:48.9
surveys sa Senate, OCTA,
02:51.5
PALS, Tangere,
02:53.4
tapos may WR
02:54.8
Panabago, etc.
02:57.5
SWS. Medyo,
02:59.3
maliban sa mga tulpo,
03:01.2
merong differences dun sa
03:03.4
last 6, no?
03:05.1
Yung last 10, no? Yung last 6
03:07.5
at saka yung 4 labas ng 12.
03:09.6
Medyo significant yung
03:11.3
difference, no? Yan kasi ay
03:13.3
dahil kung yung
03:14.6
sinesurvey mo ay kaunti lang,
03:17.5
halimbawa, president, vice
03:19.2
president lang, mas accurate.
03:21.7
Kung masyadong marami, katulad ng
03:23.3
Senate, mas less accurate.
03:25.4
May changes, maliban doon sa
03:27.2
top 3, no? At
03:29.3
kung mas lalong mas marami, katulad
03:31.3
ng party list, lalong
03:32.7
mababa yung accuracy, no?
03:35.3
Kaya, halos parehas
03:37.5
yung surveys sa presidential,
03:39.7
tapos, medyo
03:41.1
medyo
03:42.2
may difference sa Senate,
03:45.1
lalo na kung papasok yung party list, no?
03:47.3
Yun muna to set the
03:49.5
term of reference. Yung kalawa,
03:51.6
ay
03:51.8
itong sa
03:55.0
survey na ito, may differences,
03:57.0
dahil yung halimbawa, yung OCTA,
03:59.3
yung survey, about yung
04:01.2
approval rating ng gobyerno.
04:04.1
Approval rating, specifically
04:05.7
ni Marcos, at approval rating
04:07.8
ng mga Duterte, together.
04:10.0
No? Kumbaga, ngayon lang
04:11.6
ako nakakita ng ganyang survey, eh.
04:13.4
Na the Marcoses, together,
04:15.9
the Duterte, together, the opposition,
04:18.0
together, at lumabas
04:19.7
yung mga ayaw sa lahat.
04:21.7
No? So, yun yung difference siguro
04:23.7
sa OCTA,
04:25.5
at saka sa PALS, at saka SWS.
04:27.4
Parang wala akong nakita ng ganyang survey ang PALS.
04:29.3
Kaya ano daw yun, eh.
04:31.1
Special request yung survey niya, at saka yung
04:33.2
questions and all, designed by the client.
04:35.6
So, minimal yung kanilang
04:37.3
intervention, kaya medyo kakaiba.
04:39.0
I want to talk in the next episode
04:41.2
separately, yung 45%,
04:43.3
na either independent or undecided. I think that's a
04:45.3
big, big thing. Aside from 4%,
04:47.5
dun sa Duterte.
04:48.9
But, itong 30% versus
04:51.0
21%, ang pinakamalaking
04:53.3
tanong ko sa inyo, sino yung 1%
04:55.3
na Ilocano na produterte pa rin?
04:57.3
Kasi, ito siyang demografica.
04:59.3
Big subgroup, eh. May 1%
05:01.6
na Ilocano. Sabi ko,
05:03.3
hanapin ko ito. Sino itong mga
05:05.1
1% na yan? Kasi wala akong
05:06.8
hindi. Baka yung mga kababayan mo sa Baguio.
05:09.4
Hindi, itong mga kababayan natin sa Davao
05:11.4
na third generation Ilocano
05:13.4
siguro, di ba? Baka itong mga yan, talagang
05:15.8
may mga maladigong pa rin na
05:17.3
1%. How dare this 1%?
05:19.9
Baka may Ilocano na mayroon
05:21.3
nasa Mindanao, o ano, baka lumipad na.
05:23.8
Oo, maraming
05:24.9
mga kapangansan, eh.
05:27.0
Yung mga hukbalahap.
05:29.3
Nahuli.
05:31.2
Nandun doon nila, eh, sa southern Mindanao, eh.
05:33.7
Kaya marami nandun. At tukoy nila,
05:35.3
well-off na sila ngayon.
05:37.3
General Santos, marami dyan, eh.
05:39.1
Mga kapampangan. Yung mga hukbalahap
05:40.9
na hinahuli nung anti-insurgency noon.
05:43.4
Pero, sa tanong mo dito sa Senate,
05:45.9
hindi ako magugulat kung si Montulpo
05:47.6
ma-inspire at ma-encourage
05:49.8
na tumakbo rin, no?
05:51.4
Dyan. Pero,
05:53.7
tingin ko, Mark, sila,
05:55.2
yung tatlong Tulfo, clearly
05:57.1
nasa administrasyon. Tingin ko,
05:59.2
hindi lalaro si Ben
06:01.0
na lilipat sa kabila, no?
06:03.1
Talagang, tingin ko, talagang
06:05.2
nasa akin sila.
06:06.5
Although, may differences din
06:08.8
yung mga magkakapatid na yan,
06:11.4
no? Yung isa, mas malapit dito.
06:13.4
Meron din, meron din.
06:14.7
Pero kasi ang pangatignan, eh.
06:17.2
Ang pangatignan, isang ticket
06:19.0
magkasama kayo, magkakapatid.
06:20.5
Pero, tama ka, Mark.
06:22.6
Ang mahalaga kasi dito, yung brand nila, eh.
06:25.0
Parang walang pakialam kung sino yung Tulfo yan, eh.
06:27.3
Basta yung Tulfo brand,
06:29.2
kit sa lahat, no? Nakadikit sa lahat.
06:31.3
Ayun, nauna lang si Erwin kay Ben,
06:33.4
kaya mas mataas si Erwin.
06:35.0
Diba? Naging DS na. Pero bumaba si Erwin,
06:37.1
interestingly. Pero bumaba siya ng
06:38.9
18 points nung nilagay si Ben. So,
06:40.9
ibig sabihin, may pagkasplitting effect pala ito.
06:43.3
Na if you put one Tulfo,
06:44.9
halos sure na mag number one yan.
06:46.8
Once there's two Tulfo, bababa yung
06:49.0
sureness. Ngayon, halos magtatay na si
06:51.0
Erwin Tulfo at si
06:52.9
Tito Soto, eh. May chance na.
06:54.1
Bakit yun yung DDS, eh?
06:57.6
Kasi dahil admin si Erwin,
06:59.2
mawawala ka ng mga DDS
07:01.1
na voters yan.
07:02.5
Puta kay Ben.
07:04.1
Kasi mas DDS mo.
07:09.0
Tumakbo si Imon. Ako, grabe yan.
07:11.2
I mean, Ronald, this looks like the craziest,
07:13.3
tightest Senate race na even
07:14.9
a Marcos might not make it, right? I mean, it's crazy
07:17.2
that even Aimee's struggling
07:18.5
based on the Octa numbers we're seeing.
07:21.5
Pero dahil nga ito sa napag-usapan natin
07:23.2
sa dating episode mo, eh.
07:24.8
Ang problema kay Aimee, masyadong lumalaro sa
07:26.9
bot camps. Tapos walang tiwala
07:29.2
niya ang bot camps. So, nauubusan
07:31.3
siya. Diba? Yung balat
07:33.2
sa kanya ni Bastet. Balat sa kanya
07:36.0
ni Palelo, no?
07:37.4
Tapos, syempre, eh, hindi na siya
07:39.1
makakabalik doon sa kampo ni
07:40.6
Martin at saka ni Lisa Marcos. Diba?
07:43.5
May hirapan na siyang bumalik doon sa kapatid
07:45.3
niya. So, saan siya pupulutin?
07:47.5
Hindi naman siya pwedeng, hindi naman niya
07:49.0
sinusuportahan yung mga calls
07:51.2
ni Digong. So, syempre,
07:53.0
question din yung loyalty niya ng mga Duterte.
07:56.0
Dahil kung sasama ka sa kanila,
07:57.4
dahil dapat total.
07:59.2
Pagsama mo. So, going
08:01.3
into the midterms, eh, baka pareha
08:03.3
siyang ilaglag. Nung kampo
08:05.3
ng kanyang kapatid at yung kampo ng mga
08:07.2
Duterte as a spouse ni
08:09.2
Bastet. No? Yun yung
08:11.1
mangyayari. Lalo na, na tight yung
08:13.1
labanan, no? Kailangan meron
08:15.3
kang isang kampo lang, eh. Or else, ilalaglag
08:17.4
ka, eh. Diba?
08:19.1
Bakit naman siya dadali nung mga
08:20.9
tatakbo sa
08:22.9
Duterte slate?
08:25.5
Eh, kung napaka-tight ng
08:27.1
labanan. Lalo naman siya hindi dadali
08:29.0
nung administration slate.
08:30.9
So, tatamaan siya eventually.
08:33.1
Yan yung problema
08:35.1
pag namamangka ka sa dalawang ilog.
08:37.4
Nahati yung iyong bangka.
08:39.6
Ako, Richard, I talk with
08:43.1
yung ano, eh. Sa vlog ko, yung mga loyalista
08:45.2
nakakausap ko araw-araw.
08:47.1
Talagang ano, eh. Talagang lahat
08:49.0
sila, marakaramihan sa kanila disappointed
08:51.1
kay Senator Aimee.
08:53.4
So, so, pababaan
08:55.0
ang pababaan yung support niya doon sa
08:56.8
mga pro-admin.
08:59.0
And, ano, eh.
09:00.7
Ito, gusto ko lang din i-voice out.
09:03.2
Dito ko na sobrang disappointed
09:04.9
kay Senator Aimee. Nung
09:06.7
araw ng kagitingan,
09:08.8
naglabas siya ng post.
09:11.0
Sinabi niya, aanhin ang
09:12.8
katapangan kung
09:14.0
kulang naman ng bala mo.
09:16.6
O wala ka namang enough na bala.
09:19.1
Para sasabihin ngayon sa araw
09:20.9
ng kagitingan pa mismo. Aanhin mo daw
09:22.9
yung katapangan. Diba?
09:24.6
Kailan ba sa history natin na
09:26.9
marami tayong mga armas,
09:29.0
mga bala, yung mga
09:30.7
nag-ano sa atin, nag-aaklas na
09:32.9
Pilipino, diba? So, kadalasan nga
09:35.2
katapangan lang ang meron.
09:36.8
Sila Andres Bonifacio,
09:38.6
sa gera sa Amerikano, gera sa Japon.
09:41.2
Tapos sasabihin niya,
09:42.6
aanhin mo yung katapangan kung
09:44.5
wala kang bala.
09:46.5
Kung lang naman yung bala mo.
09:48.0
Coach Chot Reyes, pakisama dyan.
09:50.7
Coach Chot Reyes, doon sa courage,
09:52.9
katapangan, puso.
09:55.3
So, walang bala, walang
09:56.4
diskartes.
09:58.3
Iyon.
09:59.0
Kaya, itong si
10:02.4
Sen. Ayn, nung una,
10:04.2
hindi ko talaga maitindihan bakit
10:06.3
ganyan Sen. Ayn. Iniisip ko dahil kay
10:08.2
Lisa. Iniisip ko dahil lang para
10:10.2
protektahan yung mga Duterte. Pero more
10:12.4
and more, habang nakikita ko, habang
10:14.1
nagsasalita siya, it's getting very clear
10:16.4
na ang issue lang naman talaga
10:18.2
between her at saka sa kanyang kapatid
10:20.5
ay foreign policy lang.
10:22.7
Yun at yun lang eh.
10:25.0
Kaya siya tumataliwas kayo.
10:26.1
Hindi yun talaga. Alam natin mas malalim
10:28.4
ito eh. Sibling issue yan naman.
10:30.5
Akala ko nga yung personal eh.
10:32.8
Pero hindi.
10:34.3
Kung maga mas matimbang pa
10:36.3
itong issue sa, kung maga mas matimbang
10:38.4
pa sa kanya yung foreign policy na
10:40.3
difference nila, kesa sa
10:42.4
personal o sa
10:44.2
pamilya na ano.
10:46.1
So, yun ang
10:47.0
talaga kay Sen. Ayn yung pababa eh.
10:50.9
Sorry, Mark.
10:52.0
Tingin ko charot lang niyan.
10:54.0
Tingin ko it's a combination of a lot of things.
10:56.2
Pero tama yung sabi ni Mark na
10:57.7
importante yung foreign policy.
10:60.0
Dahil yung statement, nabasa ko yung buong
11:01.9
statement ni Aimee eh. Nung araw
11:03.8
ng kagitingan.
11:06.6
Sinasabi niya, parang practically
11:07.9
sinasabi niya, huwag na tayo lumaban.
11:10.0
Wala naman tayong panlaban eh. Wala naman tayong
11:12.0
bala.
11:13.0
It's the Duterto school of thought.
11:16.0
Tapos sinisisi niya yung gobyerno
11:17.8
dahil hindi tayo inahanda.
11:19.9
So, in one sense, pinaban natin yung gobyerno
11:22.0
dahil hindi hinahanda yung
11:23.4
defensive capability ng
11:25.3
ating military.
11:27.7
At the same time, sinasabi niya, parang
11:29.6
wala tayong laban. So, makipag-usap
11:32.3
na lang tayo. Eh,
11:33.8
antagal-tagal natin nakikipag-usap eh.
11:36.0
Sa pakikipag-usap natin, nagkaroon ng
11:37.7
status quo na nandoon sa ating
11:39.7
EEZ, yung China.
11:41.2
Hindi na gets yung leverage.
11:44.2
Hindi na gets yung bargaining chip.
11:45.5
I don't know paano naging foreign office
11:47.3
committee chair yan. Wala naman relevant publication
11:49.9
or any kind of legacy yan sa foreign policy
11:51.9
issue. So, anyway. Sana maglayas
11:54.0
yung tao na may alam talaga ng
11:55.8
kahit paano.
11:57.7
Sabi ko nga sa isang interview, sana
11:59.6
yung kanyang statement, ginawa niyang
12:01.5
apat na statements. Dahil yung
12:03.8
kanyang statement, apat na iba't
12:05.7
ibang mga magkakaiba o
12:07.5
nagbubunggu ang mga ideas eh.
12:10.0
Pinalikan din niya yung history eh.
12:11.5
Yung history ng kanyang tatay
12:13.1
na
12:14.1
nag-create ng ating
12:17.2
minimum defensive capability.
12:19.8
So, ibang statement yun.
12:21.9
Tapos, diniscuss niya yung ASEAN.
12:24.0
Bakit hindi na lang tayo
12:25.4
makipag-usap sa China through ASEAN?
12:27.7
Eh, alam naman natin.
12:29.5
Alam naman natin yung limits ng ASEAN.
12:32.2
So, pero dapat ginawa na lang
12:33.6
separate statement yun. Tapos,
12:35.7
yung kanyang sinasabi na kailangan
12:37.8
huwag na tayo makipag-away sa
12:39.6
China. Kausapin na lang natin.
12:41.8
So, separate statement yun. Tapos,
12:43.8
yung kanyang banat sa gobyerno
12:45.5
na hindi gumagawa ng sapat na
12:47.8
armas
12:49.4
para sa atin. So, pinaghalo-halo
12:51.9
niya yan. Pinaghalo-halo niya.
12:54.1
Pero hindi nakakatakas yung
12:55.8
core message niya na
12:57.2
wala tayong laban sa China.
13:00.0
Dahil wala tayong armas.
13:01.5
Yung sinasabi ni Mark.
13:03.4
Pero, okay. I agree
13:06.0
na there's something going on there
13:07.7
pagdating sa foreign policy. In fact,
13:09.7
some of the things that Aimee was saying, I
13:11.3
kinda agree with the spirit of what she's saying.
13:14.4
Ang thing ko lang dito is
13:15.5
we're talking about politicians here.
13:17.8
And, I mean,
13:20.2
the Dutertas are looking, I mean,
13:22.3
China was kinda throwing Duterte
13:23.8
under the bus by publicizing this.
13:25.8
So, baka China is giving up na
13:27.5
Duterte. And, Sara might not be also
13:29.9
I doubt that, Richard.
13:32.6
Tingin ko, ini-strengthen lang nila
13:34.1
yung kanilang narrative
13:36.2
at yung kanilang plano
13:38.3
na napapalapit na
13:39.9
yung kanilang plano na tanggalin yung
13:42.2
BRP, siya Ramadre.
13:43.7
Using the argument
13:45.9
na pumayag ang inyong gobyerno.
13:48.4
Represented by Duterte.
13:50.5
Hindi pwedeng bawiin yan.
13:51.8
Ganun niya kanilang narrative ng China.
13:53.6
Hindi pwedeng bawiin yan.
13:55.8
Gentleman, oral.
13:58.0
Merong kayong agreement
13:59.2
na pinagkasunduan.
14:01.5
Or, actually, more like, kung may nangyaring
14:03.9
masama, kasalanan yan. Kasi kayang nangako eh.
14:06.7
We see the bargain.
14:08.5
So, whatever. If something goes wrong,
14:10.3
kasalanan yan. So, essentially,
14:11.7
shifting the blame.
14:13.0
Huwag mong kalimutan, Richard, nitong nakaraan
14:16.1
from December, yung Christmas
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convoy, hanggang sa kasalukuyan,
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wala na yung
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cabbage strategy. Wala na yung salami
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strategy. Ang nasa harapan na ngayon,
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ay navy. Diba? Yan yung sumalubong
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sa Christmas convoy.
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Last two months ago, for the first time,
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may Chinese navy
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sa Scarborough. Never pa yung
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nangyari, simula nung tension
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noong 2011. Ngayon, nandiyan na sila.
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So, hindi na to yung
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incremental salami
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strategy. Hindi na rin ito
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yung cabbage strategy.
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Parang, nasa unahan na yung
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nasa likod ng cabbage.
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Siga strategy.
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O, medyo, cabbage strategy, essentially,
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they'll use first militia, then
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second layer, last resort yung
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navy nila. Pero ngayon, parang wala na.
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Barda-bula na.
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Which I think this is a perfect segue for the
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next episode. Thank you, Mark, for reminding us
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of that. Pag-usapan natin itong trilateral
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summit recently finished in the United
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States. Was it good? Was it interesting?
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Was it, ano lang, photo op lang
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or is there more to it? Maraming salamat.
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Gentlemen, again, gentlemen, for that very
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fascinating discussion.