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How do you hold the previous administration, in particular the former president, accountable?

Well, ang mga kaibigan ko na lawyers din, pinakita nila na there is actually a provision in the anti-craft law.

Nakalagay doon, a government official who causes injury, undue injury to the government, causing undue injury to the government through manifest partiality or gross inexcusable negligence is liable.

At saka penalty dyan is 6 years to 10 years, imprisonment. At saka 20 years and prescriptive period.

So, papasok yan kasi yung gentleman's agreement talaga will cause injury to the government kasi pinabigay mo yung ayung insyo ulit.

At saka we have the right to bring repair materials, you agreed na hindi tayo magdala ng repair materials.

So, that is causing undue injury to the government. Mawawala sa atin yung insyo ulit. So, pwede pumasok yan dyan.

Okay.

So, may mga pwedeng gawin to hold the former president accountable. Pero yung handshake agreement na yan, hindi ba effectively na-rescind na yan nung sinabi ni President Marcos na kung meron mang pinasok yung previous administration's agreement, I rescind it. Was that enough po?

Yeah, ang position natin kasi yung agreement na yan was not revealed to the public. Walang nakaalam yan eh.

Kahit na si President Marcos Jr., nalaman niyo na lang yung lumabas yan. Ako, nalaman ko na lang yung lumabas yan. So, wala sa atin nakaalam na meron palang agreement na ganyan.

Now, if it is not disclosed, it's not announced, it will not bind. The government, at saka parang agreement lang between two heads of state na it will not survive their term.

Pag natapos na yung term nila, hindi na pwedeng...

That will bind the next president kasi hindi naman alam yan eh. Wala naman nakaalam yan eh. So, that is our position. It was hidden from the public. Sila lang nakaalam so it cannot bind the public. So, yun ang position natin. It will not bind the next president.

Tsaka, sinabi rin ng next president, I refuse to be bound by that. I rescind that kung adyan pa yan.

So, that's the correct way.

And, Justice, how do we move forward from this? Kasi nga, in China, pinalutang yung secret agreement na yun for a reason, no?

Nileak nila yan siguro sa media. Obviously, nileak nila. So, meron silang target dyan. And I think this is part of their influence operations.

In the meantime, habang nang bubuli sila, yung mga leader natin dito sa Manila, nag-aaway-away.

Nagde-debate tayo. Ano ba yung laman ng secret agreement na yan?

I mean, how do we move forward from this?

Hindi ba parang naiisahan tayo lalo na napakiyotik ng domestic issues natin dito when it comes to that agreement?

Nag-aaway yung dating pangulo at saka yung kasalukoy ang pangulo.

In the meantime, China is still doing its own thing dito sa ating sariling bakuran po.

Well, tama ka dyan. Kasi this is distracting us. But we have to face this.

Kasi alam mo, sabi niyo Duterte, personal agreement lang yan namin.

Pero yung China, nagsalita sila, yung foreign ministry ng China, nagsalita na this is a state-to-state agreement.

This is an agreement not between Xi and Duterte, but between China and the Philippines.

So iba yung kanilang narrative ha. They want to bind the Philippines.

So magkakaroon tayo ng away dito sa China whether the agreement binds the Philippines or not.

Kasi ang posisyon nila, binding on the Philippines.

We have to face that problem. Kasi they will tell the world.

Eh may agreement kami with the Philippines na dapat hindi nila dalay yung construction material eh.

We have to explain to the world that this is not binding on the Philippines.

Kasi it was a secret agreement between Duterte and Xi. Walang nakahalam.

So we have to face this. And we have to explain why it's not binding on us.

That was not declared. It's not an announcement to the country.

It's not an announcement to the world. So it cannot bind the world.

Walang announcement eh. Cannot bind the Filipino people. Walang announcement eh.

So we cannot escape this because nakikita ko na ang posisyon ng China,

ididihin nila ito eh, na may agreement.

Kinonfirm na ni Duterte na mayroon silang gentleman's agreement.

Ang next step nila, sasabihin nila, that is agreement between the state of,

China and the state of the Philippines. Yun ang next step nila.

Sinabi na nila yan sa kanilang press release eh.

This is the agreement between China and the Philippines.

Parang napaka-active po kasi ng kanilang narrative no, yung kanilang influence operations.

Alam naman nilang mali pero ipapakalat nila.

At dun magsisimula yung starting point ng mga discussion.

Pero papano po ba natin itong maganda i-counter?

Kasi unang-una, nanalo na tayo sa arbitral ruling.

2016 pa lang, so sa atin malinaw yung Ayungin Shoal sa low tide elevation.

So, how do we move from here po?

Well, we will continue to supply Sierra Madre with construction materials.

Kasi we cannot, we cannot say na hindi na natin i-supply.

Kasi that means sang-ayo na tayo dun sa narrative ng China.

We must continue.

At saka, we,

we must think of putting up another structure.

Kasi yung Sierra Madre talaga lulubog yan eh.

We can only repair it up to a certain extent eh.

So, mag-isip na tayo anong itatayo natin doon.

Because as the, as part of the EEZ of the Philippines, exclusive right natin na magtayo ng struktura doon.

So, ang suggestion ko, we put up a lighthouse, a marine research center, at saka substation ng Coast Guard.

Para meron tayong Coast Guard vessel doon.

Pag inatake yun, we can invoke the mutual defense treaty with the US, no?

So, we maintain it as a Coast Guard substation.

Lastly, Justice, no?

Dito sa ginagawa lagi ang pambubuli ng China dito sa ating resupply missions.

Legally, ano pa ba yung pwede nating ruta?

Ano pa ba yung mga pwede nating puntahan po na korte for instance?

Dito sa ginagawa ng China na pag gano'ng, yung panghahara sa ating mga resupply missions po?

Well, pag tatayo tayo ng civilian structure like lighthouse, marine research center, or substation ng Coast Guard.

Tapos hintuin tayo ng China in constructing those structures, those civilian structures.

We can go to the tribunal.

Kasi ngayon, hindi tayo matatayo.

We cannot go to the tribunal kasi it's a military activity.

Resupplying BRT Sierra Madre is a military activity kasi naval vessel yung BRT Sierra Madre is a military vessel.

And UNCLOS has no jurisdiction over military activities because China in 2006 opted out of arbitration when it involves military activity.

That is allowed under UNCLOS.

So, we have to find a way to convert the activity to a civilian activity.

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