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Hello everyone, it's Thursday, April 18 here in Manila.
00:23.4
I'm Karen Davila giving you the kid's start for the day.
00:26.6
Our guests for Hot Copy today,
00:28.6
we have UP professor and security analyst Chester Cabalza and house lawmaker Franz Castro.
00:37.3
In focus today, concerns over what they call and describe as creeping Chinese infiltration
00:45.4
amid an influx of Chinese students and an alleged existence of sleeper cells in the Philippines.
00:53.0
But first, the headlines.
00:55.3
Today's big stories,
00:57.2
a surge in Chinese,
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students in Cagayan province
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and reports of Chinese nationals
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buying land near major ports and military sites
01:07.6
raise security concerns.
01:10.8
China warns the joint military exercises of the Philippines and the United States
01:16.7
will only undermine regional stability.
01:20.3
And the Philippine Supreme Court asks the Senate to comment on a petition
01:25.3
to nullify the arrest warrant of fugitives,
01:28.6
with Pastor Apollo Quibuloy.
01:32.5
On Hot Copy this morning,
01:35.1
lawmakers sounding the alarm into alleged Chinese sleeper cells in the Philippines
01:41.2
and a reported influx of Chinese students in a province hosting joint U.S.-Philippine military exercises.
01:51.1
Pia Gutierrez reports.
01:54.4
The Armed Forces of the Philippines says it is looking into the influx of
01:58.5
thousands of Chinese college students in the province of Cagayan.
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AFP spokesperson Colonel Francel Margaret Padilla says
02:06.5
they are coordinating with the Philippine National Police and other government agencies
02:10.8
to determine if the presence of these Chinese students
02:14.4
pose a threat to national security.
02:18.5
Naval Base Camilo Osillas in Santa Ana, Cagayan
02:21.1
was named as one of the four new sites
02:23.5
for the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement, or EDCA.
02:27.2
And sabi nga, estudyante,
02:28.5
kung meron ba silang student visas that are required.
02:31.5
So we are coordinating with the Bureau of Immigration,
02:36.1
and since students to sir, pati yung CHED.
02:38.5
At the House of Representatives,
02:40.5
ACT Teacher's Partylist Representative Franz Castro
02:43.4
is calling for a probe into suspected Chinese sleeper cells in the country.
02:48.5
Kunyari ay estudyante,
02:50.4
kunyari sila ay mga pangkaraniwang mamamayan,
02:54.0
pero meron silang mga skills na pang-spy.
02:58.5
O military skills na later on naman kung gagamitin sila
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ay mabubuhay sila.
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Ito yung mga sleeper cells.
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Tingin natin ay baka meron ng ganyan dito sa Pilipinas
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kaya tuloy lahat ng,
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kumbaga yung mga kilos nang natin dito sa Pilipinas
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parang tansyado na ng China, no?
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Nakakakaba na, nakaka-worry na itong mga ganitong mga nangyayari.
03:21.7
Surigao del Norte Representative Robert Ace Barbers
03:24.8
for his part said he has received information
03:28.5
Chinese nationals posing as what he calls
03:30.4
fake Filipino nationals
03:32.3
are buying huge tracts of land
03:34.5
near major air and sea ports
03:36.6
as well as near military sites
03:38.9
that can be accessed by the U.S. military
03:41.2
as part of its enhanced defense cooperation agreement with Manila.
03:45.7
Over the weekend,
03:46.9
authorities arrested a Chinese national in
Taguig City.
03:50.4
They recovered firearms, ammunition, hand grenades,
03:53.9
various China-marked tactical gear,
03:55.9
and a Chinese flag.
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Authorities also said that the Chinese national
03:58.5
seized a sports car worth around 30 million pesos
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and other unregistered vehicles.
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Another Chinese national was also detained
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after trying to bribe police with 3 million pesos
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in exchange for the suspect's release.
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We will be investigating and profiling
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and dig deeper to identify cohorts
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and activities including established motives.
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Alright, joining us now on Hot Copy,
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we have with us security analyst Chester Cabalza.
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He's also the founding president
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of the International Development and Security Cooperation.
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Good morning to you, sir.
04:46.0
Good morning, Ma'am Karen.
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Thank you for having me again in your show.
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Alright, now let's talk about this.
04:53.2
So, there's a house inquiry
04:55.7
into the apparent influx
04:57.5
of Chinese nationalists.
04:58.5
Chinese students in Cagayan.
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That's a recommendation that's being made.
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And in an interview,
05:06.3
Cagayan 3rd District Representative Jojo Lara
05:09.2
said that in his province alone,
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his constituents report
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that there are at least 4,600 Chinese students
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in one private university.
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So, first, there were reports of sleeper cells.
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Then, the influx of Chinese students
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Let's talk about the students first.
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Is this out of the ordinary?
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Okay, let's put into context first.
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I think Cagayan hosts a number of foreign students.
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It's not only the Chinese.
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We have Indian and South Korean students also there.
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But what is alarming here is the influx
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of the Chinese students
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which never happened before.
05:54.4
We have to put into context also
05:56.1
that the local politicians
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are Filipino-Chinese.
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They are Filipinos.
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We have to accept that reality.
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But what is alarming
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are the Chinese nationals
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entering the province
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because of the geopolitical situation
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that is happening right now.
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Remember that Tugigarao
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is the regional center
06:19.6
of Cagayan Valley
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that holds Batanes,
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Cagayan Province,
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Two of the EDCA sites,
06:28.2
are located in Cagayan Province
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and one in Isabela,
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fronting the Philippine Rise
06:35.3
So you see the importance
06:36.5
of these provinces,
06:38.3
of this region, Cagayan Valley.
06:39.9
That's the reason why
06:43.0
why all of a sudden
06:44.4
these Chinese students
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are entering our provinces.
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Some were saying that, of course,
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because they have documents to show.
06:53.0
perhaps there is a mutual agreement
06:56.3
between the high-ranking students
06:58.2
and the higher educational institutions
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between Cagayan Universities
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to Chinese Universities.
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At the same time,
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you also have the sister cities,
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which is legitimate
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because with this,
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you have a de-coordination
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of foreign nationals
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to visit and, of course,
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study in these provinces.
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So you have those preferential preferences.
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But we have to investigate
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in such a way that
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why you have these preferences,
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hundreds and thousands
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of foreign students
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coming into our province.
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Because I'm from Cagayan also.
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because we know the people
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who are living there.
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And then all of a sudden,
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we have new entries
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of foreign students there.
07:45.2
I think the national government
07:47.8
should also have to inculcate
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the concept of national security
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because ultimately,
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these are also problems
07:54.8
of local politics.
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Remember that there will be
07:57.0
local elections next year.
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So some were saying
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that local politicians
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for their own political agenda.
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But at the same time,
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because of our national sovereignty.
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That they should have
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to understand also.
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because it concerns
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the Bureau of Immigration,
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the Commission on Higher Education,
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because these are
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higher educational institutions,
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then they should have
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and it has to be investigated.
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And at the same time,
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transparent policies
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these Chinese nationals
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to study in Kagayan?
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wouldn't there be
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of some form of discrimination
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by targeting only
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Chinese students?
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Yeah, I do agree that
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perhaps some might be thinking
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that it's going to be
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these Chinese students?
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Why target only these Chinese nationals?
08:59.2
But I think we have to be stringent
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with the admission processes
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because I, for myself,
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I studied also abroad.
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a lot of requirements
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so that I can pass the entry
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to the universities abroad.
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But on the other hand,
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this is also to elevate
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the quality of the students
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that we are accepting.
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the universities in Kagayan
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are reputable universities.
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They produce top-notchers
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So in other words,
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Chinese nationals,
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or foreign students
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it should be quality students also.
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Not because they are paying,
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then they will just accept it.
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There should be qualifications
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the ranking in world universities,
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because one of the requirements
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in world university ranking
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is the attraction
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to foreign students.
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And I think we have to
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comply with those
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international standards.
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But would it there be a quota,
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it's quite interesting
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that this one private university alone,
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how many private universities
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but in one private university alone,
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there are 4,600 Chinese students.
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Shouldn't there be
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a quota system of some sort?
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I agree with you,
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there should be a quota system.
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There are four universities,
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leading universities,
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these are reputable universities
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top-notchers in the country
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in different fields.
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But at the same time,
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since we are talking
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about the requirements
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the Chinese nationals
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there should be a quota.
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Same as true in UP.
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We have also a quota
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for university foreign students,
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And also abroad, frankly.
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There should be a quota
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it doesn't become dubious
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especially that we are talking
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about education here.
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quality education.
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It's not the quantity
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that we will be admitting.
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I hope that the lesson
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that we can learn here
11:16.2
is not about the monetary
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but at the same time,
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the quality of education
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and how we protect
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our national sovereignty.
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universities and local politicians
11:31.0
should also understand
11:32.4
that there is a bigger scale
11:34.4
beyond this influx
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of Chinese students.
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That we are talking
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about national sovereignty,
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Now, you have information
11:42.8
that some of these students
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are paying 2 million pesos
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to obtain degrees
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without even attending classes.
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some of the reports
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based from intelligence
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and from local people
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spilling the beans
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that they have experienced this.
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I hope that it's not going
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to be a milking cow
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or a diploma meal
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for this government.
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If the intention really,
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No, so the question
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is your information?
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Where is it from?
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from local people
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from an intelligence report also.
12:35.3
It's reliable, basically,
12:40.4
assuming we are talking
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about a college degree,
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well, it's possible
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because that's a four-year degree.
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I think that that is
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a tuition is different
12:58.1
from paying 2 million pesos
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without attending class.
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There are two different issues.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A tuition or is that
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bribing of 2 million
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and not attending class?
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We have to clarify that.
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Those are two different things.
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But one is, of course,
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into context first.
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When you admit Chinese nationals
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studying in Kagayan,
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one of the requirements is
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they should be fluent in English
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because the medium of instruction
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would be English.
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The problem with some
13:29.0
Chinese nationals
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are not fluent in that language.
13:33.0
So the only way for them
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to pass the requirements
13:36.3
is to pay for it, right?
13:39.0
There's a possibility
13:39.9
that they will be paying
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for the 2 million
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so that they can obtain the degree.
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So without, of course,
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or passing the requirements
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So how do we know
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that they are really students
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or fronting as students?
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Oh, well, of course,
13:56.2
because our talks there were talks
13:58.6
of what they call sleeper cells.
14:03.1
is there any connection
14:06.2
That is something we have to verify
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because as of now,
14:10.3
according to some politicians
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there in my province,
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they were saying that
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they have proper documentation
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or correct information
14:18.3
about the profiles of the students.
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So I mean to see that
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the sleepers themselves
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are not yet in the
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In Kagayan, but I think these are legitimate students, but we have to think about it because there is a geopolitical situation that we have to understand also.
14:36.5
But just an add-on, I also received information that this is not only happening in Kagayan, but also in Subic because Subic is fronting the West Philippine Sea also.
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So, it's not only exclusive in Kagayan, but I think in some of the key strategic locations in Luzon basically.
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Okay, now there are also reports, I don't know just if you've received reliable information on this, reports of Chinese nationals pretending to be Filipinos and buying land near major ports and military sites.
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Hmm. I would remember even in the past while touring around the major tourist spots in the country like in Palawan, Boracay, I know that there are Chinese investors trying to buy lucrative properties in those areas.
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So, I think this is not new. It may be possible also. Remember there was a time in…
15:39.8
But then that's against the constitution.
15:42.6
Tourists cannot buy land.
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Agree. We still consider the 60-40, right?
15:47.4
I would remember there were islands before in Kagayan that they wanted to put up a pogo, but I think the AFP went against it because of the national security indication that they are seeing because of the red flag.
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So, I hope that the local politicians and the AFP will have to consider all of these things.
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Okay. Now, at this point, the information that you have, do you consider this?
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A national security concern?
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Definitely, it becomes a national security concern if we see continuous influx of Chinese students.
16:29.4
And why in Kagayan?
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Some are questioning why not?
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But I told you the parameters earlier.
16:37.4
We have multinational universities already there.
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It's good we have foreign students.
16:43.1
That gives reputation also to universities and colleges.
16:46.2
There's no problem about that.
16:47.4
But the problem is why, all of a sudden, we see this wave of students coming in.
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Is it because of the two EDCA sites that Kagayan is hosting?
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Is it because of the geopolitical tension in Taiwan and in the West Philippine Sea?
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So, those are some of the considerations that we are actually asking.
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It's a reflection right now that perhaps we have to consider.
17:16.0
Because when we talk about national security, everything is red flagged there.
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Especially if you see all these influx of Chinese nationals,
17:23.2
they may be pretending students or they may be legitimate students.
17:27.3
But at the same time, why we see all this wave of Chinese students in a certain province?
17:35.4
Okay. Now, China has denied the sleeper cell allegation.
17:40.0
And they're accusing the Philippines of already spreading xenophobia.
17:46.0
And they're accusing the Philippines of already spreading xenophobia.
17:47.8
Xenophobia is essentially a fear of foreigners or a certain race.
17:56.4
So, we are already being accused of spreading this xenophobia.
18:01.8
Well, definitely.
18:02.9
This is also not an exception to the Philippines.
18:07.0
The xenophobia or China threat is also experienced in the US because of the Haitian hate also.
18:13.1
So, I think this is a global...
18:16.0
Phenomenon, basically.
18:17.6
But I hope that we have to remember that we have also Filipino-Chinese who are Filipinos.
18:23.2
We have to consider that.
18:24.4
They are Filipinos.
18:25.3
But we have to distinguish Filipino-Chinese and Chinese nationals.
18:31.7
Although we welcome Chinese nationals in our country because, of course, they're not our enemies.
18:38.2
We just have a strategic problem with them in the West Philippine Sea.
18:42.0
We have to put that into context.
18:44.2
But at the same time,
18:45.3
they should be transparent also in their businesses with us.
18:49.3
If they come here as student, then they have to act as student.
18:52.8
If they come here as businessmen, then they have to provide trade and employment also.
19:00.2
So, transparency is the key here.
19:03.0
And at the same time, we have to create laws where we have to regulate also.
19:07.7
Because we're not a country of...
19:11.2
Although we welcome all foreign nationals.
19:15.3
But at the same time, there are also regulations.
19:17.7
In which case, because we try to re-examine also our consciousness when it comes to national security.
19:26.9
Now, moving forward, would you say that the Philippines at this point,
19:32.9
are we strategic enough to be looking at all aspects?
19:38.3
I mean, if this is true, China is clearly covering tracks in every sector.
19:45.3
It's basically what's happening in the West Philippine Sea, right?
19:48.6
So, are we prepared?
19:51.7
Oh, well, actually, I just have written a book.
19:55.8
Hopefully, it will be published.
19:57.3
It talks about territorial defense of the Philippines or Philippine territorial defense.
20:01.0
This is the first time that our country will be doing external defense.
20:05.0
It is jived in our foreign policy, in our security policy, national security policy that looks an outward looking external defense.
20:14.5
And of course, in the Baltic.
20:15.2
So, we have a lot of exercises that will be happening this month and until May.
20:18.8
They will be exercising the comprehensive archipelagic defense, which is an external defense in nature.
20:25.0
So, meaning to say, a lot of things have been happening lately in the Philippines.
20:29.1
We have to, which I think is a transition also from our five decades of focus on internal security.
20:38.1
So, this time around, our country is flexing our muscles to external defense.
20:43.9
And because of the Hague, we have to do a lot of things.
20:45.2
The Hague ruling, you see all of the connections here.
20:47.4
The Hague ruling, the lawfare.
20:49.2
And at the same time, our country has become a middle power now, which means that our economy is going to the right direction.
20:57.7
We have more confidence now in terms of our diplomatic networks.
21:01.9
That's the reason why 14 countries are observing the Balikatan exercises.
21:06.1
This is something new.
21:07.1
We haven't seen that in the 39th iteration of the Balikatan exercises.
21:11.7
This is the first time that we will be seeing that.
21:13.7
And then in the first.
21:15.2
This is the first time of our military modernization.
21:18.8
We have seen joint sail, joint air, and maritime patrol that have never happened before in the Philippines.
21:25.6
So, you see all these transformations that are happening now in our country.
21:29.7
That means that we have positive outlook when it comes to our external defense.
21:36.4
On that note, I want to thank you so much for joining me today, sir.
21:40.1
Security analyst Chester Cabalza.
21:43.7
Thank you very much, ma'am.
21:46.1
We're going to take a quick break.
21:47.9
We'll be right back.
22:15.2
Welcome back to Head Start.
22:25.5
Let's continue our discussion on China's alleged infiltration.
22:30.3
We're now joined by House Deputy Minority Leader, Franz Castro.
22:34.8
Representative Castro, good morning to you.
22:38.2
Good morning, Karen, and to your viewers and listeners.
22:41.3
All right, what do you make of reports that there's an influx of Chinese students in Cagayan?
22:48.8
And a number that was given was specifically in one private university, 4,600 Chinese nationals.
22:57.5
Is this out of the ordinary for you?
23:01.8
Yes, Karen, we are worried about the influx of the students, especially in the ed sites in Cagayan.
23:11.3
Parang new phenomenon yan, Karen.
23:15.7
You cannot see that in other parts of the country, especially yung mga universities.
23:22.1
So, we are worried at meron tayong duda.
23:27.3
May mga ano to, no?
23:28.5
Pinatawagan natin, baka merong mga sleeper cells dito sa...
23:34.5
And with our experience kasi sa Pogo, diba, na nagkaroon din na investigation yung Pogo,
23:40.8
and we have found out na merong mga PLA na naka-infiltrate doon sa mga Pogo sites.
23:48.0
Kaya, we are worried na baka may mga ganitong plano ang China, especially the government of China,
23:56.9
because we have this dispute in the West Philippine Sea.
24:00.5
And by the way, we are not anti-Chinese people.
24:04.9
Gusto lang natin makita yung dalaw, especially that the dispute,
24:10.6
in the West Philippine Sea, is intensifying.
24:14.3
Okay. But what kind of policy should the Philippines make?
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Other countries are clearer.
24:20.8
Either they've set quotas, and especially now, in many countries,
24:26.1
they now prevent foreign nationals from buying property as it's raised housing prices.
24:33.9
There are reports also of Chinese nationals allegedly pretending to be Filipinos
24:40.7
Near major ports and military sites.
24:45.2
Yes. So, there must be a policy as regards to what we have said.
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Na kagaya din yan, na ibang mga bansa,
24:53.2
kailangan din natin na we have to formulate our own policies.
24:58.8
Especially so that, we suspect,
25:04.6
we suspect some Chinese nationals were sent by,
25:10.6
by the Chinese government for the purpose, no?
25:13.4
Kaya talagang, kailangan natin talagang gawin din yung necessary na mga policies.
25:18.4
So, that's why we have filed, no, yung House Resolution 1682
25:22.1
so that we can formulate policies as regards to that.
25:26.6
Yung pagbili ng mga housing, yung enrollment sa mga schools,
25:30.8
diba, even if it's a private school.
25:32.6
So, parang mag-de-deprive mo naman sa kung maraming mga estudyante sa isang private school.
25:39.4
How about the chances?
25:40.6
Naman yung ating mga local students, even if it's in private schools.
25:45.1
Kasi sa private, kasi meron din tayong support na binibigay dun sa ating mga estudyante.
25:51.6
And also, ito rin, no, kaya namin talaga tinututulan itong chacha, no,
25:57.2
doon sa ownership, no, ownership of utilities, and later on, baka land, no,
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kaya talagang we have to make a clear, clear-cut policy about foreigners,
26:10.6
in our buying housing near the EDCA sites.
26:14.0
Okay. Now, let's move on to something, well, not exactly related,
26:20.0
but connected to the West Philippine Sea issue,
26:25.2
is you are seeking an investigation into the alleged gentleman's agreement
26:31.2
between former President Duterte and Chinese President Xi Jinping.
26:37.5
Solicitor General Francis Ardeleza,
26:40.6
former soldier, has said it's time
26:42.3
to move forward. Why
26:44.1
even investigate a
26:46.3
gentleman's agreement instead of just
26:48.1
moving forward as a
26:50.1
country and speaking in
26:52.1
one voice? Why do we need
26:54.1
to investigate the gentleman's
27:00.1
significant, Karen, this
27:03.1
secret deal with the
27:06.1
former administration, former
27:07.9
President Duterte, and
27:12.0
China, because of the
27:13.8
intensified harassment,
27:18.5
and water cannons.
27:20.2
So, ang lakas ng loob,
27:21.5
tignan natin kung bakit ganun kalakas
27:23.9
ng loob ang Chinese
27:26.2
talaga na i-assert
27:28.0
yung kanilang illegal or
27:30.0
unconstitutional or
27:34.1
West Philippine Sea.
27:36.0
So, gusto natin malaman ano ba itong sinasabing
27:38.1
status ko. Because
27:39.9
the BRP Sierra Madre
27:43.5
Ayungin Shoal is a
27:45.7
significant symbol
27:49.4
sovereign rights,
27:51.6
the national territory.
27:53.6
So, bakit kailangang diktahan tayo
27:55.8
ng China as regards to
27:57.7
what we are supposed to do there?
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Ano ba yung dapat natin dalhin doon?
28:02.4
Even construction materials,
28:04.0
hindi ba pwede? Kung ako nga,
28:05.7
radically, kung ako nga, palitan natin
28:07.9
yung barko doon, kung meron talaga.
28:14.4
Hindi dapat tayo pangialaman ng
28:16.1
China doon sa territory natin.
28:18.7
Kaya hindi tayo dapat na
28:22.5
At gusto natin malaman
28:25.1
that we have filed,
28:27.7
makita natin talaga
28:29.9
klase ng verbal man ito
28:33.9
or whatever, na agreement
28:35.5
na hindi dapat ginagawa
28:39.9
of the state. Especially so na
28:41.9
we have this, I don't know, we have this
28:47.6
Now, China, I think the China
28:49.7
spokesperson has issued a
28:51.7
statement that the Philippines specifically
28:55.7
of the agreements. Number one,
28:59.5
the Philippines promised
29:01.3
to actually remove and
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Shera Madre. And China says
29:07.5
it's been 25 years, the
29:09.5
Philippines hasn't kept its promise.
29:11.8
So that would mean
29:13.0
that if they quoted, it's been 25
29:15.6
years, one would wonder
29:17.7
if that agreement was made
29:19.6
during Duterte's time or even
29:21.5
before. The other promise
29:23.5
they claim is that
29:25.4
the Philippines will not
29:29.4
improve the BRP Shera Madre.
29:32.0
That's two. Number
29:33.4
three is they claim
29:35.3
that the Philippines has promised
29:43.3
update or at least give a heads-up
29:45.3
to China during our resupply
29:47.7
missions. Give them advanced
29:51.2
What do you make of all those alleged
29:55.6
Well, uh, saan ba,
29:57.2
saan ba, ano, no? So we are wondering
30:01.6
administration that
30:03.5
those promises were made.
30:05.6
Kasi, uh, early this, uh,
30:07.7
last part of the year, di ba,
30:09.5
nagduda na nga tayo na, na
30:11.6
sino ba ang administration
30:13.3
yung nagsasabi nung ganyan. So,
30:17.7
former president, uh,
30:21.0
she did not, she did not have
30:23.7
that kind of promise or
30:25.6
agreement. Even the,
30:27.4
uh, even the, uh,
30:31.4
even the sons of former president
30:34.9
I wanted to ask you,
30:37.4
during the time of former president,
30:39.5
Estrada, this is interesting,
30:41.3
historically, it was during
30:43.2
his time that he put not one,
30:45.4
but actually two ships, remember?
30:49.2
Charamadre and, um, another
30:51.1
vessel. Do you remember the name
30:53.3
of that vessel, representative?
30:57.4
So there were two. Technically,
30:59.2
there were two that were marooned,
31:01.2
right? But then the other
31:03.0
vessel was removed
31:04.9
so that the Chinese president would
31:07.1
visit the Philippines. That was the
31:09.5
shot. I think that's what
31:11.1
Markado told us on Head Start.
31:13.9
So could it be possible
31:17.4
former president said he would remove
31:19.4
both, but only removed
31:21.3
one and retained one?
31:23.9
Yes, possible din yan, ano,
31:27.3
possible na kaya kailangan din natin
31:29.3
tawagan din si ERAP, no?
31:31.2
Si former president, ERAP.
31:32.8
Or at the very least, his
31:34.3
defense secretary. Yes,
31:37.4
okay, his defense secretary.
31:39.5
Pwede natin niya matawag doon sa
31:41.4
inquiry or probe na gagawin
31:43.8
natin sa Congress so
31:45.6
that we can find out talaga sino ba
31:47.6
si kay ERAP ba, yung agreement na yan
31:49.7
or during the Duterte's time.
31:51.8
And we know naman, during the
31:53.7
Duterte's time, yung relationship
31:57.7
and the Chinese is so
31:59.8
close, diba? So nakita naman natin
32:01.9
yan. And even, sabi pa nga,
32:03.9
diba, the decision
32:05.7
of the inclose is just a piece
32:07.8
of paper. So don't,
32:09.5
lumakas ang loob no, noong China na talagang
32:12.0
binabaliwalaan natin yung
32:13.8
ating, ano no, yung ating pagkapanalo
32:15.7
doon sa OPLOS. So
32:17.5
we have to find out, so that we can
32:24.7
in this kind of, ano no,
32:27.5
kung meron mga ganitong mga
32:31.0
mga policy, ano ba yung policy
32:33.6
na dapat natin gawin at ano ba yung
32:35.4
pwede at hindi pwede sabihin
32:37.3
ng mga presidente.
32:39.5
But then, is that for Congress
32:41.6
to say, I was going to ask you, because
32:43.7
at the end of the day,
32:46.4
the president is the architect
32:47.8
of foreign policy.
32:49.5
And the problem in the Philippines is you have a
32:51.7
president changing every six years.
32:54.0
It can be both good and
32:55.7
bad, but then there is no
32:57.8
long-term policy.
33:00.5
That's the problem we
33:01.7
have. Unlike, let's say, China
33:03.6
for example, or other ASEAN countries,
33:07.7
term policy when it comes to,
33:09.5
let's say, foreign policy.
33:11.5
So, eto, we are at the mercy
33:13.5
of who sits in Malacanang
33:17.7
to view the West Philippine
33:21.9
Yes, I agree that the president
33:25.6
of the international
33:27.1
or foreign policy, pero
33:29.5
it should be guided,
33:31.6
ano man yung decision ng president, should be guided
33:35.5
permanent policy natin
33:37.4
on foreign policy.
33:39.5
So, katulad ng ibang mga bansa,
33:42.1
meron talaga silang permanent,
33:43.8
whether magbago-bago yung
33:45.5
administration, yung presidente,
33:47.8
meron talaga. So, sabi natin,
33:49.7
gusto natin ng independent
33:51.3
foreign policy na tayo
33:53.8
yung mag-de-decide at hindi tayo
34:00.8
ng China. So, ganoon
34:03.5
naman yung gusto rin natin mangyari. So,
34:05.2
maiwasan na natin na kada administration,
34:07.5
kung pabor o hindi,
34:09.5
US or sa China or sa anumang
34:11.5
powers, ay doon tayo sumusunod.
34:13.9
So, there should be a permanent
34:18.4
Magpapalit-palit man yung
34:20.7
Alright. Now, what's happening right now in terms of
34:25.1
your colleague, former
34:27.2
House Speaker Pantaleon Alvarez
34:29.5
has gone as far as calling
34:31.5
the armed forces of the Philippines and the
34:33.5
police to withdraw their support
34:35.9
for President Marcos
34:47.5
and official of the government ,
34:50.4
this is unfold for.
34:52.2
And we can do naman
34:53.6
yung ating gustong sabihin
34:55.7
with the government,
34:57.2
with our criticism, with the government,
35:00.2
with our mandate.
35:02.4
Through our mandate so
35:04.8
not to the extent naman na
35:08.0
call for like comment to me.
35:08.9
call for rebellion or whatever, na gusto natin sabihin na, well, it's a freedom of speech nga,
35:17.5
pero may malaki yung implication ng kanyang sinabi, di ba?
35:21.7
So, magkakaroon ng kaguluhan dyan.
35:26.3
Dahil alam naman natin, may mga hold din naman ng mga military, yung Duterte camp,
35:32.3
o itong si Campi Pantalion Alvarez.
35:35.5
So, it is unquote for a legislator at that.
35:41.6
On that note, I want to thank you for joining me today, House Deputy Minority Leader, Franz Castro.
35:47.4
Thank you so much.
35:49.1
Thank you, Karen.
35:50.8
Moving on, joint Philippine-US military drills set for next week as described or are described as preparations for war.
36:00.1
Bianca Dava has the story.
36:05.5
More than showcasing its capabilities, training exercises with the country's allies and partners
36:11.2
help the armed forces of the Philippines maintain a high level of readiness in case of a conflict,
36:16.9
according to a military official.
36:18.5
The armed forces has a mandate to defend our territory.
36:23.5
And there is an adjunct to that mandate, which is you have to train for it.
36:30.0
And for realistic training, we train in areas where,
36:35.5
where realism is provided for.
36:39.1
The purpose of an armed forces, why we exist, is really to prepare for war.
36:45.1
There's no, there's no sugarcoating it.
36:48.2
The navies of the Philippines, the United States, and France will conduct a multilateral maritime exercise in the West Philippine Sea
36:56.1
as part of the Balikatan exercise this year.
36:59.6
For the first time, the Coast Guard contingents from Manila and Washington
37:03.8
will participate in the joint sale.
37:07.0
Smaller drills will also be conducted in Batanes, the country's northernmost province facing Taiwan.
37:13.8
These drills are expected to irritate China,
37:16.1
but Balikatan 2024 Executive Agent Colonel Michael Lohico says it's nothing out of the ordinary.
37:22.8
With or without China, let's say for example in a parallel universe, China did not exist,
37:28.0
we would still be doing these exercises.
37:30.7
Because this is a, these are,
37:33.8
things that nations do.
37:36.3
Manila is sending two vessels from the Philippine Navy and one from the Philippine Coast Guard for the MME.
37:42.5
The number of participating ships from the U.S. meanwhile has yet to be determined.
37:47.7
France, which is making a debut as a Balikatan participant,
37:51.3
on the other hand is sending a warship to the drills.
37:54.5
The Philippines has no visiting forces agreement with France yet,
37:58.0
but Lohico said Paris could still join the drills
38:01.0
since it will be conducted outside Manila's territorial borders.
38:03.8
For the French Navy, they will be bringing in the frigate.
38:06.8
So I, those, the frigate will not be entering territorial waters.
38:12.8
They will be joining the group sail, which is beyond 12 nautical miles,
38:16.8
but within our 200 nautical mile EEZ.
38:21.8
So they will not, we will not be seeing French boots on the ground.
38:25.8
The participation is just the Navy.
38:28.8
The official also assured that the possible presence or intrusion of Beijing's vessels,
38:33.4
during the MME, is part of their contingency plans.
38:37.4
Intrusion into our exercise area is a possibility,
38:41.4
but that will pose more of a problem for the people who want to enter the exercise area, not us.
38:50.4
Because we are going there with our Navy vessels,
38:56.4
so with the United States and also with the French Navy.
39:01.4
We are going there prepared.
39:03.4
The annual joint training exercise between the AFP and the U.S. Armed Forces
39:07.4
will also focus on testing the Philippines' comprehensive archipelagic defense concept
39:12.4
announced by Defense Secretary Gilberto Chudoro Jr. earlier this year.
39:17.4
The concept calls for incorporating all services of the AFP in defending Philippine waters,
39:22.4
particularly the country's 200 nautical mile EEZ.
39:26.4
One thing particularly new about Exercise Balikatan is that it's going to also showcase
39:33.4
the comprehensive archipelagic defense concept.
39:36.4
We are focusing on both the physical and the non-physical domain.
39:40.4
We are exercising, particularly in the area of information warfare and cyber defense.
39:51.4
With over 16,700 participants expected from the Philippines and the U.S.,
39:56.4
this year's Balikatan will be the largest since the first staging in 1991.
40:01.4
Representatives of 14 countries will also participate in the drills as observers.
40:06.4
Bianca Dava, ABS-CBN News.
40:13.4
As for China, it says the joint drills between the Philippines and the U.S. forces
40:18.4
will only lead to what it called greater insecurity for Manila.
40:23.4
Beijing's foreign ministry warns the Philippines bringing other countries in a show of force
40:29.4
in the South China Sea.
40:31.4
Will only aggravate tensions and undermine regional stability.
40:38.4
Now in other news, the Philippine Supreme Court ruled the poll body was wrong
40:43.4
in disqualifying Smartmatic from the 2025 elections bidding.
40:47.4
Adrian Ayalin reports.
40:51.4
The Philippine Commission on Elections committed grave abuse when it disqualified Smartmatic
40:56.4
from participating in the bidding for the 2025 automated elections,
41:00.4
according to the Supreme Court.
41:02.4
In the decision of the ANBank in Baguio City,
41:04.4
the petition of Smartmatic against Comelec was granted.
41:08.4
The decision was penned by Associate Justice Jose Maidas Marquez
41:11.4
and read by Supreme Court Spokesperson, Atty. Camille Ting.
41:15.4
Comelec committed grave abuse of discretion when it disqualified Smartmatic
41:19.4
before it had submitted any bids without any reference to the eligibility requirements
41:25.4
prescribed by its bids and awards committee.
41:28.4
It held that Comelec implemented a discretionary pre-qualification regime
41:34.4
antithetical to the Government Procurement and Reform Act.
41:38.4
But according to the High Court,
41:40.4
their decision does not mean that the poll contract awarded to Miru Systems was nullified.
41:45.4
The South Korean firm clinched the nearly 18 billion peso contract
41:49.4
to provide the automated election system for the 2025 midterm election.
41:54.4
However, despite the finding of grave abuse of discretion,
41:57.4
on the part of the Comelec,
41:59.4
the Supreme Court did not find it sufficient
42:02.4
to nullify the public bidding or award of the contract.
42:06.4
It cited considerations of equity, justice, practicality,
42:11.4
and the doctrine of operative fact.
42:13.4
This means that the law produced consequences
42:17.4
before it was declared unconstitutional
42:20.4
that cannot always be ignored or disregarded.
42:24.4
So the doctrine nullifies the law,
42:26.4
but its effects are sustained.
42:28.4
The High Court also said Smartmatic can still participate in future elections.
42:33.4
As of now, Smartmatic can indeed,
42:36.4
they can participate in the next elections,
42:39.4
but subject to, let's say,
42:42.4
if anyone files a disqualification case against them again.
42:45.4
The Comelec said it respects the decision of the Supreme Court.
42:48.4
The decision of the Comelec in the case of Smartmatic
42:51.4
is for the people.
42:53.4
We really looked at what is good for the people,
42:55.4
they exercised equity, they exercised fair play.
42:58.4
But they also underscored
43:00.4
that the court did not nullify the results of their bidding process.
43:04.4
We are grateful that even though our Supreme Court
43:07.4
made such a decision,
43:09.4
it said that it will not affect the public bidding,
43:13.4
the award of the contract,
43:15.4
and in that way, there is no hindrance
43:17.4
in the preparation of the Comelec
43:19.4
in the automation of our elections in 2025.
43:22.4
In the statement, Smartmatic welcomed the decision,
43:25.4
sends a clear message to the Comelec
43:27.4
that due process matters.
43:29.4
Smartmatic also stressed
43:31.4
that it is ready to explore further opportunities
43:34.4
to contribute to the modernization
43:36.4
of Philippine elections.
43:38.4
Adrian Ayalin, ABS-CBN News.
43:42.4
The Philippine Supreme Court orders the Senate
43:45.4
to comment on a petition
43:47.4
of fugitive televangelist Apollo Quiboloy.
43:50.4
Willard Cheng tells us the story.
43:54.4
The Supreme Court has directed the Senate
43:57.4
to comment on the petition for certiorari and prohibition
44:00.4
filed by Kingdom of Jesus Christ founder Pastor Apollo Quiboloy
44:04.4
to declare the arrest and detention order of the Senate
44:07.4
as null and void.
44:08.4
The Senate earlier issued the arrest order
44:10.4
after Quiboloy refused to attend hearings
44:13.4
into allegations of abuse against the religious leader.
44:16.4
Quiboloy claimed the Senate investigation
44:18.4
is not in aid of legislation,
44:20.4
saying it's a usurpation of judicial functions
44:23.4
beyond the powers of the Senate.
44:25.4
The respondents in this case,
44:27.4
they were required to file a comment
44:29.4
within 10 days on the petition
44:32.4
as well as the prayer for the issuance of the TRO
44:35.4
and the writ of preliminary injunction.
44:38.4
So right now, it's at that stage.
44:40.4
We are awaiting the comment of the respondents.
44:43.4
Respondents of Quiboloy's petition include
44:46.4
Senate President Juan Miguel Zubiri,
44:48.4
Senator Risa Ontiveros,
44:50.4
who chairs the Committee on Women, Children,
44:52.4
Family Relations and Gender Equality,
44:55.4
and the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms.
44:57.4
Senator Ontiveros says she is ready to answer any order of the Senate
45:01.4
and that her counsel,
45:02.4
former Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio,
45:05.4
will study and respond as soon as possible.
45:08.4
While she has yet to receive a copy of the court's order,
45:11.4
Ontiveros expressed readiness to comply with the SC directive
45:15.4
in respect of the court
45:16.4
and in recognition of the principle of separation of powers.
45:20.4
A principle, she says,
45:21.4
that should also guide Quiboloy.
45:23.4
Former Senate President Franklin Rilon points out
45:26.4
that since the Supreme Court did not issue a TRO,
45:29.4
Quiboloy should now face the Senate.
45:31.4
The Senate could have been stopped by the Supreme Court
45:35.4
through a temporary restraining order
45:37.4
prayed for by Quiboloy.
45:40.4
The fact that the court refrained from using that power
45:45.4
is an indication that it is their view that
45:49.4
Quiboloy is not entitled to that immediate relief
45:53.4
without prejudice, of course,
45:55.4
to finally deciding the case on its merit.
46:00.4
the failure of authorities to find Quiboloy
46:02.4
affects the credibility of the justice system.
46:05.4
This is a slap on the executive branch,
46:09.4
particularly the enforcement of our orders,
46:13.4
and this does not augur well
46:16.4
for our people's confidence,
46:19.4
in our court system.
46:21.4
Quiboloy's camp has yet to issue a response.
46:24.4
Willard Cheng, ABS-CBN News.
46:29.4
And before we go,
46:30.4
Filipino cuisine takes the spotlight
46:32.4
at a pop-up event in Ontario, Canada.
46:38.4
The non-profit organization Kainana
46:41.4
recently hosted a 10-day pop-up event
46:44.4
at the food district in Mississauga.
46:47.4
It was in celebration
46:48.4
of the 75th anniversary
46:50.4
of Philippine-Canada relations
46:52.4
and the Filipino restaurant month this April.
46:55.4
The event brought together 12 small business owners
46:58.4
to showcase the best of Filipino cuisine.
47:02.4
The main highlights of the event
47:04.4
was the introduction of the Filipino high tea,
47:07.4
a delightful ensemble that includes
47:09.4
the traditional ube mamon,
47:11.4
chicken asado putipaw,
47:14.4
as well as Canadian whiskey ube truffles,
47:19.4
These delectable treats were curated
47:21.4
by 10 food entrepreneurs,
47:23.4
each presenting their best offerings.
47:26.4
This is just the beginning
47:28.4
of our afternoon feast.
47:30.4
This is the merienda
47:31.4
to end all meriendas, I think.
47:33.4
We're starting off with Filipino high tea
47:35.4
and you can see an assortment
47:37.4
of both savory and sweet.
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I grew up in Canada.
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I've lived here my whole life,
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And this is the first time
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I'm experiencing a high Filipino tea.
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So I'm super excited.
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Guests also had the opportunity
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to indulge in Filipino-Canadian fusion dishes
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such as sisig puti,
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adobo burger with ketchup chips,
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and Chef Erwin Bansil's
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pancitroon maple bacon spring rolls.
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Yung sa spring rolls natin,
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pinigay natin siya ng bacon.
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We'll glaze it with maple syrup.
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Pinakita ko sa item natin na pinigay na
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para sa Canadian.
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Grace Oasis, meanwhile,
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brought a unique touch
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with their sari-sari char,
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a delightful fusion of Filipino snacks
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The pop-up was also a platform
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for small business owners
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to showcase traditional specialties
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such as the flaming halo-halo,
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tulon, karyoka, and lechon.
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The small business owners say
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the opportunity to showcase their creations
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at the road district was a milestone.
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With a diverse audience of foodies
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from different cultures,
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cultural backgrounds,
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the event offered a platform
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for these entrepreneurs
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to elevate their businesses
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to the mainstream.
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I'm very proud of small business vendors
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like Katainan Nagri
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for coming up with different concepts
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to introduce Filipino cuisine
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to mainstream Canada.
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Especially, it's being held here
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at Square One, the food district,
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is something to be proud of.
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Founder Janet Lim,
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emphasized the importance
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of collaboration and unity
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within the Filipino community
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and of breaking away
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from the crab mentality culture.
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With the success of the event,
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Katainan Nagri is already gearing up
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for their next pop-up event,
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promising another celebration
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of Filipino cuisine and culture.
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Jocelyn Reyes Zambilay,
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ABS-CBN News, Toronto.
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