00:35.2
Ito po kasi yung nagpaalam sa mama nito eh.
00:38.7
Ito yung kumuha doon sa isla sa mamawan na kukunin niya.
00:43.5
12 years na sa kamay niya to eh.
00:45.7
12 years. So since 18 years old, parang ganun po.
00:49.8
Pumunta po, nakitira kasama yung pastor.
00:53.3
Okay. At ano po ang ginagawa niya kasama yung pastor?
00:56.3
Binaaral niya to eh.
00:58.1
Naging pastor din to.
00:59.8
Ah, okay. So naging pastor din si Sir Renbel.
01:04.0
12 years na silang magkasama nitong pastor.
01:07.4
At kailan po huling nakita ng mga magulang ni Sir Renbel itong si Sir Renbel?
01:13.1
Hindi kasi to, laging umuwi doon sa bahay.
01:16.2
Kasi nakatira nga kay pastor.
01:17.9
Pero kailan po sila huling nag-usap, ma'am?
01:19.8
Hindi ko po natanong po.
01:21.3
Hindi ko po natanong yung mama niya.
01:22.9
Pero sa kasalukuyan, ma'am, nung nakausap niyo po yung mga magulang,
01:28.1
Mas may detalya yung parents ni Sir Renbel, ano.
01:31.8
Sa kasalukuyan, ma'am, wala po silang any form of communication.
01:36.0
Nakapatay na po ba ang cellphone?
01:37.7
Hindi na rin po ba ma-message sa Facebook?
01:42.3
Si Sir Renbel mismo?
01:44.7
Isang buwan na po na hindi na tumawag sa kanila.
01:47.8
Itong pastor na to, hindi po sinabi sa magulang ni Renbel na nawawala.
01:53.0
Doon na nagsabi sa girlfriend niya ni Renbel,
01:56.6
nagsabi na nawawala daw si Renbel.
01:58.1
Actually, Atrini, meron tayong hawak dito.
02:01.3
Meron binigay si ma'am na note.
02:19.5
So, ibig sabihin, meron pong nakitang note sa cellphone.
02:25.6
Yung pastor ang nagbigay mismo niyan sa mama,
02:29.5
Kanina po ba ang cellphone niyan, ma'am?
02:32.2
Okay. So, naiwan yung...
02:33.6
Pero yung note na lang yung binigay ni pastor,
02:36.1
yung note na yan,
02:37.9
yun yung binigay ni pastor sa mama ni Renbel.
02:40.5
So, lahat ng ito, ma'am,
02:41.7
linawin ko lang, ma'am,
02:42.6
lahat po ng ito, pati yung letter na yan,
02:46.2
nalaman niya lang po kay Pastor Kirk.
02:49.7
Wala po bang nakitang labi?
02:52.2
Kasi kung totoo man po na nagkaroon po ng suicide note
02:55.6
at kung may tendency po talaga,
02:57.2
eh, nasaan na po ang mga labi niya?
03:00.5
Ano po ang sinami ng Pastor Kirk nung kayo po ay nag-uusap?
03:05.8
Kagaya po na, ano po ang sinami niya, ma'am?
03:19.1
Magandang hapon po, Sir Lloyd Garcia.
03:22.9
Yes po, ma'am. Magandang hapon din, Tanyol.
03:25.8
Nabanggit po ni ma'am,
03:27.2
buwan, mahigit na po, since March 15,
03:30.5
ay nawawala po itong si Sir Ren Bell.
03:34.5
And apparently, may naiwan pong note,
03:36.7
suicide note daw po,
03:38.3
pero wala pong nakitang kahit anong labi
03:40.9
or hindi po natin alam kung nasaan na po talaga
03:43.4
ang katawan po ni Sir Ren Bell.
03:45.6
Ano po ang masasabi niya dito, Sir?
03:47.7
Actually po, ma'am,
03:49.4
wala kaming natanggap na balita
03:53.1
o mismo nag-report sa amin dito sa opisina.
03:57.2
Na, ano, nawala missing person si Rendell Opunda.
04:04.0
So, simula po noong March 15 hanggang ngayon, Sir,
04:07.2
wala pa pong nagre-report na missing siya?
04:09.4
Wala. As of this time and date, ma'am,
04:11.4
wala po kaming recorded sa aming police platter
04:15.6
na nawala si Rendell Opunda
04:18.4
kasama si, ano, Pastor.
04:22.8
So, kahit po yung magulang ni Sir Ren Bell,
04:26.9
wala si Sir, si Ma'am Lottis,
04:28.5
hindi pa po nagpupunta dyan sa inyo?
04:30.6
Hindi pa po. Wala pa kaming, ano,
04:32.7
hindi pa nakipag-coordinate sa amin yung mga pamilya.
04:39.2
Ah, ganito, Sir, kilala niyo po ba itong Pastor Kirk?
04:42.1
Meron po ba kayong,
04:43.5
siyempre dyan po sa inyong community, Sir,
04:45.6
meron pamilyar po ba kayo
04:47.1
sa isang pastor na nag-angalang Pastor Kirk?
04:50.2
Hindi ko kabisado yung pastor
04:51.6
kasi maraming pastor dito sa amin.
04:56.5
Taga saan daw po si Pastor Kirk, Ma'am?
04:58.7
Taga Cebu daw po yun,
04:59.9
pero lagi po daw sa Calapi.
05:05.2
nabanggit nga ni Sir Garcia,
05:06.7
marami daw pong pastor sa kanila.
05:08.6
Ganda na lang siguro, no.
05:10.1
Wala pa pala kahit anong investigasyon
05:12.0
dahil hindi pa rin nare-report at all.
05:14.4
Siguro maganda makausap po yung mismong nanay.
05:17.6
wag po yung tiyahin, ano,
05:19.2
kasi mukhang mas nakakaalam po yung
05:21.1
nanay sa nangyayari.
05:23.2
Ganto po, Sir Lloyd Garcia.
05:27.2
Siguro, pasasamahan po namin
05:33.1
At para po ma-report na po diyan,
05:36.0
total, nandito naman po,
05:37.1
tumawag na po kami mismo,
05:38.9
na nawawala po itong si Sir Renbel Oponda
05:43.3
So, isang buwan na po,
05:45.2
higit na nawawala itong tao.
05:47.2
So, baka maaari din po, Sir,
05:51.5
ng paunang investigasyon, ano?
05:56.5
Sige po, maraming salamat po,
05:58.2
Sir Lloyd Garcia.
05:59.6
Nasa linya po, at yun is si Pastor Kirk.
06:02.8
speaking about the societal note,
06:05.8
okay, it was found in the
06:07.6
note compartment of his phone.
06:11.0
And in the first place,
06:11.9
it wasn't me who found it.
06:14.3
Sino po ang nakahanap, Sir?
06:18.4
if there is going to be an,
06:21.1
a sort of invitation done like this,
06:23.2
my co-pastor should be included
06:25.0
in this kind of investigation.
06:28.9
Because I think he is the right person
06:32.2
Because that note was found,
06:34.5
Rainville left us
06:36.2
without any notice
06:37.6
early morning Friday.
06:39.4
That was on the second week of March.
06:43.8
without leaving any word,
06:47.6
where he was intending to go.
06:50.3
He left everything to us.
06:54.5
on the following day
06:57.5
because he left his phone,
06:59.9
that my co-pastor decided to
07:02.5
check on his phone.
07:04.1
And then when he checked it,
07:06.0
there he found a societal note.
07:08.9
And I was already in a different town
07:11.4
because during the time,
07:13.2
I had a commitment to another island.
07:16.3
So before heading to another island,
07:18.4
while waiting for our,
07:19.8
you know, bangka,
07:21.3
my co-pastor who found
07:23.6
the societal note,
07:27.4
forwarded it to me.
07:29.1
And it was that very day,
07:31.3
that was Saturday,
07:32.5
that I also forwarded
07:33.9
the societal note to the mother.
07:36.7
And on that very day,
07:40.8
or had that information
07:43.3
concerning the societal intent
07:46.2
or the letter of the son.
07:49.1
And that's the only thing I can say.
07:52.4
Is that true, ma'am,
07:53.7
that you informed him?
07:54.6
Agad-agad daw ni Pastor Kirk?
07:58.6
Ang sabi ng kapatid ko,
08:00.5
doon mo sinabi sa girlfriend
08:02.3
na nawawala yung pamangkin ko?
08:04.8
Hindi mo sinabi ka agad?
08:05.6
It's something like this.
08:06.3
Let me correct that one.
08:10.8
the would-be wife of your son.
08:13.3
Tinawagan ko yung
08:14.4
sana maging wife niya
08:17.7
That was Friday morning.
08:19.6
Because he got lost
08:20.9
early morning Friday.
08:23.1
at around 10 a.m.,
08:26.4
I started to get worried
08:28.8
over the absence of Rainville.
08:31.9
So, I decided to ring
08:33.3
the would-be wife of your son
08:36.5
in the name of Jennifer.
08:38.0
I think also Jennifer
08:39.2
had to be interviewed
08:40.3
because there are a lot
08:42.3
of misinformation
08:43.2
that has been circulating
08:45.7
because of wrong information
08:47.8
and wrong conclusions
08:49.7
concerning the absence of Rainville.
08:52.5
You need also to interview
08:54.3
the wife of your son.
08:54.4
You need also to interview
08:54.5
the wife of your son.
08:54.5
You need also to interview
08:55.6
So, Friday morning,
08:59.4
about why Rainville was gone.
09:03.5
Maybe she had some knowledge about it.
09:07.5
that she doesn't know about it.
09:11.0
By calling Jennifer,
09:14.1
that they had this
09:15.6
misunderstanding Thursday night.
09:20.4
And so, I concluded,
09:22.6
this is my conclusion.
09:25.1
that because of their misunderstanding
09:28.5
that maybe Rainville was just simply outside
09:30.9
trying to relieve himself emotionally.
09:34.1
Maybe he was somewhere in the seashore
09:37.1
or something like that.
09:38.4
That was really my conclusion.
09:40.5
Jennifer had even to blame herself.
09:44.8
oh, I need to be blamed
09:47.4
because she had a misunderstanding
09:50.6
She really cried.
09:54.2
I understand that, Pastor Kirk.
09:57.3
what you're saying.
09:59.4
But what we're wondering,
10:04.2
that Sir Rainville was gone.
10:10.7
maybe there are other pastors
10:12.1
who looked for him
10:13.7
or just went to the police
10:18.7
or as a missing person
10:20.3
of Sir Rainville?
10:21.3
Hang on, hang on.
10:21.7
I would like to make
10:24.9
That on the very day
10:26.6
that the suicidal note
10:28.0
was read or discovered,
10:32.8
my co-pastor who found
10:34.3
the suicidal note,
10:36.6
reported it to the police
10:39.8
when we found that.
10:41.7
Because at first,
10:43.1
the first move we did Friday,
10:47.5
the first thing I did
10:48.8
was to go to his place of assignment
10:51.1
because his place of assignment,
10:54.8
And the barangay name was Bunakan.
10:57.4
And our training time
11:02.0
were done in Calapi.
11:03.8
So Calapi and Tubigon
11:05.3
are two, of course,
11:07.4
two separate barangays
11:09.9
So at around 3 p.m.,
11:16.1
or took its toll,
11:17.8
so I went to her,
11:20.7
to his place of assignment
11:27.5
whether or not he was there.
11:32.5
use his motorbike
11:33.7
because he left his motorbike.
11:37.5
that the doors were closed.
11:40.3
And my conclusion was that
11:44.3
I went back to Calapi.
11:46.8
the following day,
11:49.6
fulfill my commitment
11:51.1
to the other island.
11:54.1
So it was Saturday
11:56.2
please bear with me,
11:58.0
the suicidal note
11:59.5
was found in his phone.
12:05.6
the police officers
12:12.4
who were left in Calapi did
12:18.3
if ever he was really inside
12:23.1
That was the second time
12:24.1
that the house was checked.
12:28.0
go inside the house
12:33.4
let me clarify lang po,
12:34.8
because we were talking
12:39.8
chief investigator
12:44.8
nare-report sa kanila
12:45.8
sa missing person
12:47.0
itong si Sir Renbel Oponda.
12:50.4
that your co-pastor
12:53.1
as a missing person
12:57.0
Calapi, not Bienonido
12:58.0
because the place
12:59.7
is not Bienonido.
13:01.5
So it's in Calapi, Bohol, Sir.
13:03.9
mabigyang linaw din
13:05.2
because as of now, Sir,
13:08.8
kaanak ni Sir Renbel
13:11.0
it should have been
13:12.4
reported in Bienonido.
13:13.6
At least ngayon po
13:14.3
may clarification
13:14.9
that it was reported
13:20.0
or ng co-pastor ninyo,
13:24.0
na pumunta po sa inyo
13:27.1
mula po sa Calapi PNP?
13:29.0
In fact, it is like this, ma'am.
13:30.6
One of the family members
13:34.5
I think the daughter,
13:35.7
there was a story
13:36.9
that they said that
13:40.0
one of them had a dream
13:48.3
the church of Calapi.
13:50.5
And what they did was this.
13:51.8
They brought with them
13:54.9
they used the dog
13:57.3
just to, you know,
13:59.6
whether the dream
14:01.9
authentic or not.
14:03.7
they brought with them
14:04.9
some police officer
14:06.2
to the Calapi church.
14:09.1
And with the use of the dog,
14:14.1
And they literally,
14:16.6
of the sniffing of the dog,
14:18.4
they started to dig
14:21.3
to confirm whether
14:23.2
was really buried
14:24.7
May nakita po ba,
14:26.6
nung sila po ay naghukay?
14:29.5
In the first place,
14:30.5
as I hear the information
14:31.7
from my co-pastor,
14:32.9
the police officers
14:34.0
really asked them
14:35.2
if they would just
14:36.4
be given permission
14:43.2
And that is really
14:46.3
that we were behind
14:48.6
of Pastor Renbel.
14:52.6
una-una po sa lahat,
14:53.7
wala pa naman pong
14:56.4
na si Pastor Renbel po
15:00.1
Wala pa nga po tayong
15:01.1
nakikitang katawan.
15:03.0
What we only have is
15:06.3
na hindi din po natin
15:10.8
or kung ano man po yan.
15:13.1
we are asking the help
15:15.1
at maski po kayo,
15:17.3
is highly appreciated
15:18.6
because we want to know.
15:22.2
and kung nasaan po
15:23.4
itong si Sir Renbel.
15:24.9
If he's still alive
15:26.4
at kung kailangan po niya.
15:28.7
That's the problem.
15:31.7
if he really intended
15:33.1
to take away his life
15:35.0
by his own making,
15:37.2
so he shouldn't have
15:38.3
made it something
15:45.4
in the front of God
15:46.3
and it is against
15:47.2
the teaching of God,
15:48.7
we should take away
15:51.3
and our own decision.
15:53.5
Why hide his death?
15:54.7
Because our common
15:55.7
knowledge is that
15:59.2
to take away his life
16:00.8
through suicidal means
16:02.0
wouldn't really give
16:03.7
any headache to people
16:04.9
to let them know.
16:08.2
respeto na lang din po
16:09.4
doon sa mga kaanak
16:10.5
because they're here.
16:11.4
Nandito po si Ma'am Evangeline.
16:13.0
We cannot question
16:16.1
na may nangyari po
16:18.4
at binawian po niya
16:21.3
Respetuin po natin
16:23.3
Hindi pa naman po tayo
16:26.0
we are clarifying things.
16:30.1
ibaba yung telepono.
16:31.2
We are very grateful
16:32.6
ay sumagot sa aming tawag.
16:35.1
na meron po nangyaring
16:35.9
reporting na missing person
16:37.3
po itong si Sir Renbel?
16:40.2
So at least that's
16:41.0
already verified, Ma'am.
16:42.5
Sa Calape, Bohol po sila
16:44.9
na missing person.
16:47.4
Police Major Dacolio,
16:49.5
kahit anong update
16:55.2
we closely coordinated
16:56.8
with the co-hand relatives
17:00.9
At the same time,
17:02.0
we also coordinated
17:06.3
during that time.
17:15.9
naglaho yung tao.
17:20.9
wala na mga report
17:27.1
Wala na silang idea
17:29.7
ganito na lang po,
17:30.5
Police Major Dacolio,
17:32.4
papakiusapan po namin
17:34.5
na maimbestigahan po
17:37.5
We are doing our best,
17:39.1
Ma'am, to at least
17:39.6
locate the co-hand
17:43.3
We closely coordinated
17:44.4
with the relatives.
17:46.5
Marami naman yung
17:47.3
tumatanong sa amin
17:50.1
Actually, I directed
17:55.0
conduct of the investigation
18:10.3
ibababa yung linya ka.
18:11.2
Kakausapin po kayo
18:13.0
Nasa linya natin,
18:15.4
para lang ma-verify natin
18:16.5
kung yung sinasabi
18:22.6
Ah, magandang hapon.
18:25.2
Kasi nakausap namin
18:27.2
regarding sa pagkawala
18:30.1
na kayo ni Renbel
18:34.4
Oo, nag-away po kami
18:36.6
parang malalim na away.
18:38.3
Ano pong pinag-awayan
18:40.9
nag-update sa akin.
18:46.4
ang inyong pinag-awayan.
18:51.7
ninyong pag-uusap, ma'am?
18:56.7
Nag-sharing ng Bible
18:58.3
tapos nakikinig lang ako
19:02.9
kasi hindi maganda
19:05.2
yung loob ko sa kanya
19:07.9
tinupad yung pangako niya.
19:11.5
Nung araw, ma'am,
19:12.4
na nawala po siya
19:14.4
kasi ang binanggit po
19:15.3
sa amin ni Pastor Kirk
19:16.4
in-inform daw po niya
19:17.7
kayo at tinawagan.
19:19.2
Totoo po ba yun, ma'am?
19:22.4
nag-hintay ako nun
19:23.8
ng tawag ni Renbel
19:24.8
kasi kapag mag-away kami niyan
19:26.7
tumatawag niyan sa akin
19:30.3
So yun lang na time
19:32.4
na hindi na siya tumawag.
19:34.4
Kaya nabigla ako.
19:36.1
So since March 15, ma'am,
19:37.7
meron po ba kayong
19:38.3
any form of contact
19:39.4
like sa Facebook,
19:41.0
or kung saan pa pong
19:42.2
other social media platforms
19:43.7
or sa cellphone po
19:47.8
Messenger lang kami
19:51.0
At may nagtulog sa akin.
19:51.5
Kailan po yan, ma'am?
19:53.0
Wala naman siyang phone nun eh.
19:55.3
Nagchat-chat ako sa kanya nun
19:57.9
Nagchat siya sa akin
19:58.6
ng early morning.
19:59.5
Last message na yun sa akin.
20:04.0
Ano pong sabi niya, ma'am,
20:05.1
sa last message po?
20:07.3
Na good morning siya sa akin.
20:09.2
At nasabi pa nga niya
20:11.2
bago kami natulog
20:12.5
see you tomorrow.
20:17.9
So nagsabi pa niya
20:19.2
nang see you tomorrow.
20:24.7
Sige, ganto na lang po,
20:26.4
Ha, huwag niyo po
20:26.9
ibaba yung telepono
20:28.1
para makausap po namin
20:30.4
ah sa mga huli niyo pong
20:33.9
At ah kakausapin lang po
20:35.8
si ma'am Evangeline.
20:36.9
Siguro po manawagan na
20:38.8
kung may nakakita
20:39.7
o baka nanonood po
20:40.6
si Sir Renvel ngayon.
20:43.8
kung nakakita man ka,
20:47.3
hindi sa uliin taon.
20:52.6
Maloy kasi mong maman
20:56.9
Hindi nakatarong utog.
20:59.7
Hindi na makakaon.
21:03.9
as sa mga karoon.
21:08.1
Kung namin nakakita
21:09.2
sa kong pag-umangkon,
21:13.5
kung tawag sa ina
21:16.0
na nakabotang sa iyang
21:23.5
sa mga nakakalam po
21:25.1
sa kinalalagyan ni Sir Renvel
21:27.4
kayong informasyon
21:28.2
tungkol sa kanya.
21:29.4
Maari po magbigay alam
21:30.5
dito sa Wanted sa Radyo
21:31.6
o kung ma-ordinate po
21:34.7
ang Chief of Police po
21:38.9
Ma'am Evangeline,
21:39.8
maraming salamat po
21:40.7
sa pagpunta niyo po
21:43.3
na matagpuan na po
21:45.9
Kaya sabihin po namin
21:46.7
kaysa kabilang studio, Ma'am.
