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Naghain ng writ of mandamus ang Public Estates Authority Tollways Corp. (PEATC) para ibigay ang operasyon at maintenance ng Manila-Cavite Expressway sa kanila mula sa CAVITEX Infrastructure Co. (CIC)., isang unit sa ilalim ng Metro Pacific Tollways Corporation. Nagsalita naman si MPTC President & CEO Rogelio Singson sa naging hakbang na ito ng gobyerno, at sinabing sundin ang naging arbitration process sa hatian ng gobyerno at ng pribadong sektor. Bukas naman daw sila sa negosasyon para dito. #TedFailonandDJChaCha #DitoTayoSaTotoo #SaTrue #TrueFM --- Follow News5 and stay updated with the latest stories! https://www.facebook.com/News5Everywhere https://twitter.com/News5PH https://www.instagram.com/news5everywhere/ https://www.tiktok.com/@news5everywhere šŸŒ https://www.news5.com.ph
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Ito na nga po mga kapatid, nasa ating linya ngayon si former Secretary Rogelio Babe-Singzon,
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ang kasalukuyan pong Presidente at Chief Executive Officer ng Metro Pacific Tallways Corporation.
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Good morning po, SecBabes!
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Good morning, Ted, and good morning, DJ Chacha.
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Apo, salamat.
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Sa inyo pong panahon na binigay po sa ating programa.
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Pwede ho ba as a backgrounder lang ano po?
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Ito pong MPTC na ngayon nga po ay silang nangangasiwa sa Cavitex.
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Ano ho ba ang kontratang pinasok ninyo sa gobyerno, particularly po dito sa Philippine Reclamation Authority?
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Okay, Ted, ito nagsimula long time ago dahil nag-umpisa ito with PRA pa o Public Estates Authority pa nung una.
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At ang kapartner nila dito is a foreign company.
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Sinasabi nila na tamang share daw po sa hatian ng kita sa operasyon po ng Cavitex.
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Ating balikan si Secretary Babe-Singzon, SecBabes.
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Yeah, kumusta yung audio natin, Ted?
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Apo, better sir. Go ahead, sir. Go ahead po.
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Okay, so ito ay nag-umpisa pa long time ago, mga 1994-1996, dahil merong dating foreign company na kapartner ang Public Estates Authority.
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To operate a portion of the reclaimed area, yung particularly yung Manila-Cavitex Expressway nga.
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So unfortunately, yung foreign company hindi pwede to operate dahil foreign nga.
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There was a ruling that foreign companies cannot operate utility facilities.
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So eventually, that's what we bought into, yung share ng UEM Mara.
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So over the years, up to today, what is being misrepresented is up to today, it's still Public Estates Authority employees and service personnel running MCTEP, yung Cavitex.
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Para madaling ko ang Cavitex.
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So empleyado ng PATC yan.
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In fact, alam mo Ted, kailalan nyo naman siguro.
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Marami na rin akong pipiping.
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Nagulat lang ako nung pagpasok ko dito na bakit ganyan?
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Kala ko ba PPP yan?
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Ba't gobyerno ang nagpapatakbo?
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Ganun lang kasimple ang aking pagkaintindi riyan.
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So sabi ko, teka muna, tingnan natin how we can fully operate that as a PPP project.
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That's where I came in.
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Opo.
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And then, ito nga po ngayon na ang binabanggit po ng PAP.
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Itong Public Estates Authority Corporation na ito, PAPC.
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Ang sinasabi nga daw po na sa kasalukuyan ay disadvantageous itong kontrata ng MPTC at ng Cavitex Infrastructure Corporation.
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Kaya po sila nagsampa ng mandamus petition sa hukuman.
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Well, ang sinasabi nila dapat 60-40 instead of the current cherry of 90-10.
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Mm-hmm.
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Ang pinag-uusapan kasi Ted dito is a total of about 23.8 kilometers.
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Ang natatapos pa lang talaga ay yung naunang tinatawag lang R1 which is on the reclaimed area.
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That's only 7 point something, 7.5 kilometers.
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Tapos nagkaroon ng extension, another 8.6 kilometers.
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Tapos may ongoing ngayon.
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Ito napaka-importante.
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Cavitex connecting to C5, which is fully being funded by the private entity, kami.
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So malaki na yung na-invest namin dyan.
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So the arrangement is it will shift to 60-40 once we recover our investments.
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Wala naman pinapasok na yung PATC.
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No investment is coming from them as far as the expansion.
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Or the extension of ito ngang MCTEP or Cavitex.
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So yun ang pinagagalingan nila na dapat daw 60-40 na dahil tapos na yung first segment.
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Eh hindi naman ganun yung agreement.
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The agreement is tapusin lahat hanggang C5 and then allow us to recover.
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In fact, may mga required return on investment yan.
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Which is part of the original agreement.
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Mm-hmm.
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Ang problema namin, Ted, dito,
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PATC does not even have a board for some reason.
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Siguro meron namang rason yan.
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Because the mandate of Philippine Reclamation Authority is really to manage at saka regulate yung reclamation all over the country.
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So ito medyo kasama sa mandate na infrastructure development.
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But it was precisely...
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It was actually undertaken under a PPP para yung operations and maintenance, a private sector na.
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But up to today, there are 485 employees of PATC operating the expressway.
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Yan, bottom line yan.
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They cannot argue against that.
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Empleyado talaga nila yan.
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Hindi namin empleyado yung mga nandyan.
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Mm-hmm.
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Opo.
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So sa ngayon po.
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Sa ngayong sitwasyon, merong offer ang MPTC na kung maaari nga ay i-buy out na lang ng kumpanya ito pong sapi ng gobyerno dito po sa Cavitex.
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At sinasabi po nila, sabi po sa isang press conference, ito pong Public Estate Authority Tallways Corporation na hindi umano ka B.O.B.O.
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O, ganong ka tanga ang gobyerno para pumayag sa deal na ito.
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We have made an offer.
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E di mag-counter offer sila kung anong presyo ang gusto nila.
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Diyos na yan naman, napakasim.
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Kaya may provisions nga dyan sa aming agreement na merong arbitration provisions.
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E nagulat lang kami, bigla sila umakyat, nag-file ng motion for mandamus doon sa Court of Appeals.
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Dead, pareho tayong hindi abogado pero palagi ko, Court of Appeals kagad sila.
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Alam naman natin ang procedure dyan.
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Maling-mali yun. Pwede pa silang kasuhan dyan dahil in-engage sila private lawyers to file that mandamus.
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Ewan ko kung sino nagbigay ng clearance sa kanila to hire private lawyers to represent a supposed to be government corporation.
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So, ano ba ang inyong sugestyon dito to cure this controversy?
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Meaning kasi po ang sinasabi ng kanilang campus,
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ng PEATC na tapos na itong 10-90, 10%-90% na deal at we now have to go sa 60-40 in favor of the government.
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Sila nga po dumulog nga sa hukuman, mandamus para obligahin na po kayo na sumunod rito.
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Ano ba ang inyong iniaalok dito ng solusyon?
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Dead, ako.
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For infrastructure development. Wala kami question dyan.
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Our track record will show that the Metro-Pacific Group has been involved in all kinds of infrastructure, including tollways.
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So, walang issue dyan kasi ginagamit na dahil para daw support tayo ng programa ng BBM for more infrastructure, walang away dyan.
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Ang sinasabi lang namin, pwede ba sundan natin yung arbitration process.
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Mag-usap 60 days.
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Kung hindi makuha sa usapan, we will have an arbitration committee created, but in the meantime, meron kaming offer to buy out the shares.
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Hindi namin binibili yung kumpanya dahil yung kumpanya at saka yung assets remain to be with government.
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Hindi namin inaako na 90% ng assets amin.
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Wala lang kami, walang pinag-uusapan gano'n.
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We are just interested in operating that efficiently.
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Isa patid.
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Ibig sabihin, mandando ng TRB na magkaroon ng interoperability.
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Ibig sabihin, lahat ng tollways dito sa Pilipinas, iisa lang ang sistema.
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Iisa lang ang toll collection system.
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Nung nakaraan pagpasok ko, sabi sa akin ng mga dinatnan ko, hindi daw kami pinapayagang baguhin yung toll collection system dyan at saka yung mga toll booths.
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E lumang-luma na yung mga yun.
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Kami na yung nandyan dyan na, nabili na namin, it's a matter of installing it para gano'n efficient yung system at saka pumasok ka sa Calax, pumasok ka sa Cabitex, pumasok ka sa Enlex, pare-pareho ang sistema.
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But ang sinagot sa amin daw, kasi hindi ko inabutan, kailangan daw na i-bid.
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E talaga kailangan na i-bid dahil nasa government hands.
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Iyon yung mga gano'n. Employees are government employees.
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So how can we be more efficient? Kami yung hinahabol lang namin, more efficiency.
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Sige po. So sa kabuhuan po, kasi hindi nga pa ito tapos at may mga by-segment po ito, magkano bang halaga dito ang investment po ng Metro Pacific Tollways Corporation?
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Umaabot kami dyan ng mga P25 billion.
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Opo, P25 billion.
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That's correct.
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Opo, kung saka-sakali po, theoretically, bagamat I think nais po ninyong...
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Opoan ito sa pamamagitan po ng mediation muna?
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Mediation, that's correct. And our offer to the government stands.
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We're willing to pay off what they think is an appropriate valuation.
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Okay. Sandali muna. Bakit ho, ano ho ba ang kagandahan kung meron man sa panig po ng gobyerno at sa panig po ninyo kung pumayag po sila doon sa sinasabi niyong buyout?
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Ganito, Ted. Simple and simple lang.
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Lahat ng service providers dyan, mga pa-maintenance, security, hindi kaya nag-contract dahil wala nga board.
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So pinapakiusapan kami na pwede ba i-extend nyo na lang yung mga kontrata nyan.
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Eh kala ko ba kayo nag-ooperate and maintain yan? Bakit nyo kami idadamay dyan sa mga kontrata nyan?
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So the question is, are these contracts the most efficient contracts? Hindi ko alam. Bayad lang kami ng bayad dyan.
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So kung baga...
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Pagalungkot. I mean, as I said, our intention is to operate it more efficiently. Ang daming reklamo. Unfortunately, wala kami magawa eh.
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Opo, opo. Kasi nga, the operations and maintenance, no, nitong Manila Cavitex, ay responsibility of PEATC, no?
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That's correct.
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Opo, opo. And that's the existing contract, ano po, ang setup ngayon.
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That's correct.
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Opo, ang nais nyo sana nga din, baguhin sa pamamagitan po ng para kayo makapag-takeover at kayo na masisisi kung sa kasakaling pampangit ng maintenance.
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That's right. Akoin na lang.
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Akoin nyo na. Pero dapat sa inyo yung responsibilidad. Sa kabuuan na. Ganun po iyon.
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That's correct. Kasi ang aming responsibilidad ngayon is only the design, construction, and financing.
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The ONM, operations and maintenance, remain with PEATC.
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PEATC, which does not have any authority dahil walang constituted board.
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At saka yung kontrata nito ay 90-10 ang hatian simply because pera ninyo ang ginamit sa konstruksyon.
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That's correct.
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At saka lahat naman yung gastos doon, dito din naman ang gagaling sa revenues. Wala naman sila ipinapasok dyan.
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Okay. So, yan po ang inyong...
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Ang sinasabing yung magiging magandang solusyon kung sa kasakali.
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Pero sabi nga nila, no? Sabi nga nila, eh, lugi ang gobyerno dyan. Hindi pa pwedeng mangyari yan.
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Oo. Ano po ang inyong maiksing sagot doon, SecBabes?
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Pag-usapal, humarap sila sa amin. We've made an offer. If they need a third party to do the valuation, fine with us.
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Okay.
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Kapag po yung sinasabing...
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Hindi nilang ipinipilit na 60-40 pabor sa gobyerno dito po sa revenues sharing ho ng Cavitex. Ano po ang inyong reaction doon?
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Eh, hindi pa nga tapos yung mga projects eh. Hanggang C5 pa dapat yan. Ang pinag-uusapan nilang 60-40 eh yung gusto lang nila, yung tapos na.
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Eh, hindi naman ganun yung kontrata. It is a hole of 23.8 kilometers.
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7.7 pa lang yung tapos at saka kami pa nagtapos nung extension hanggang sa Maylas, PiƱas at Cavite.
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Mm-hmm. Opo. So, ano ho?
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Paano naman yung recovery namin doon sa investment namin? Wala man silang kinocontribute doon.
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Well, kaya nga po PPP, Public Private Partnership. So, privado ang nag-finance. Meron lang po responsibility yung gobyerno.
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Right of way acquisition. Pero kapag ho ba hindi ito na ayos na gusot, ano po ang danger sa project?
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At ang danger din po o hindi ho magandang ibubunga para sa mga tumatangkilik ng Cavitex?
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Well, the extension that they requested on the service contracts, security, yung building maintenance, facilities maintenance,
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mag-expire na yan noong August yata.
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That mistake. O si pa paano yan? Sinong bigla bang, who will enter into these contracts now?
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Mm-hmm. So, kung sakasakali po ba at magkaroon po dito ng, sa ngayon, ng ano ho dito, ng standstill, ano po magiging galaw po ng MPTC at ng Cavitex Infrastructure Corporation?
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Ted, kami naman.
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Ready to negotiate with government, no?
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But, ayaw lang namin na kami sinisisi for something that we are not responsible for.
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Okay. Sige po. So, sir, ano po ang inyong panawagan sa kabilang panig dito po sa isyong ito?
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Kasi nga...
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Ayaw ko sanang sabihin, kabilang panig, wala. Iisa lang ang pinag-uusapan dapat natin eh.
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So, anyway, we have made our suggestion.
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Let us follow what is in the provisions.
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In the provisions of the Joint Venture Agreement. Meron tayong proseso dyan. So, 60 days, mag-usap tayo, saan ba kayo nang gagaling at sinagot naman namin lahat ang kahilingan ninyo, lahat ng documents na hinihingi ninyo, sinubmit namin.
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Banggiting ko lang, dahil meron silang COA findings na hindi nila masubmit-submit, eh ano naman ang pakialam namin doon sa submissions ng report sa COA? Hindi naman kami sakop ng COA.
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No?
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Mm-hmm.
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So, we have to do something.
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So, doon, isa pang pinagagalingan ng kanilang problema. Dahil wala silang sinasubmit na cash flow, wala silang sinasubmit na statements of revenues and operating and maintenance expenses. So, talagang hahabulin sila ng Commission on Audit.
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Mm-hmm.
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Oo. Kung wala silang mga ganumpong mga hinihingi ng COA,
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ah,
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wala, kayo may tutulong doon.
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Ang may tutulog namin, sabi namin, ano mga documents kailangan nyo?
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Audit than preparing the reports for you.
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Binigay namin lahat yun.
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We have our audited financial statements yearly.
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At daily, Ted, yung empleyado na nakikita yung toll collection, sa kanila dumadaan yun, eh.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, sa ngayon po, sir, na meron pa hungang extension po ito at plano po, we'll discuss.
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May delay sa implementation ninyo?
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Hopefully not. That's why we are already reaching out to the Department of Finance na kung pwede lang, tumulong na sila as part of government.
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As I said, I did not want this thing, ang liitlit na bagay, to turn ugly.
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And because of yung nagpunta na sila, nag-media-media na sila, eh meron naman solusyon ito.
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So, under the provisions of the Joint Venture Agreement, mag-usap.
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We made that offer.
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Ay sinagot sa amin, Mandamus. Eh, hindi na pwede.
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Apo-apo.
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Humingi na ho ba ng panig sa inyo ang Court of Appeals dito sa kanila pong petition from Mandamus?
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Wala pa kami.
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Apo.
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Walang abiso, walang, wala, no information.
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Other than we were given a copy of what they filed.
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Okay, sige po.
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So, lastly po, ano, para sa mga nakikilig ngayon na gumagamit po ng...
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Okay, sige po.
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So, lastly po, ano, para sa mga nakikilig ngayon na gumagamit po ng copy text,
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tumatangkilig nito, karoon lang po ninyo.
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Yung pong maintenance niyan, collection niyan, lahat niyan, sino po nangangasiwa?
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At ano lang po ang papel ninyo?
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Well, ang aming agreement ngayon is kami yung design, construct, and finance.
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Under, dapat nga may joint agreement on the ONM, no?
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But right now, lahat ng employees...
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Ah...
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Warm bodies, no?
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Employado ng PATC is about 280, 245 should be exact, no?
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Tapos another 240 are contracted personnel.
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Yung mga sa security, sa maintenance, systems maintenance, lahat yan, contracted personnel, no?
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For 245 contracted personnel and 240 organic personnel, so all 485.
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Employees and personnel, dyan sa copy text na yan, are employees of Public Estates Authority, Toll Corporation.
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Opo, opo.
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Klaro po yan.
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Sige po.
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So, kami po yung antabay lamang sa mga mangyayari.
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And yung nga po, sana nga po humantong ito sa mahinahon at mapayapang pag-uusap.
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Nasa ganun po, bottom line po dito is kapakanan po ng mga gumagamit ng copy text.
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And yung nga po kapakanan...
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Kapakanan po ng Estado.
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Salamat po, SecBabes.
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Maraming salamat. Maraming salamat, Ted.
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Salamat sa inyong mga tagapakinig.
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Opo, thank you.
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Si former Secretary Babe Singson, siya rin po ang Pangulo at Chief Executive Officer po naman ng Metro Pacific Tollways Corporation.