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Ayon kay former Sen. Sonny Trillanes, nasa 50 PNP officials, either active or retired, and kinausap na ng ICC tungkol sa kanilang pagkakadawit sa kasong crimes against humanity laban kay Rodrigo Duterte. Pag-usapan natin yan mamaya kasama si Trillanes.
Christian Esguerra
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00:00.0
Good evening guys, welcome to tonight's episode of Facts First.
00:28.2
Ako po si Christian Esguerra, so today is April 24, 2024.
00:35.0
Sana po ay nasa mabuting kalagayan po kayo, especially dahil napaka-init po lately, napaka-init po.
00:42.2
Lalo po ngayon, and I think base po sa mga nakikita nating indicators, lalo lang pong iinit yung mga darating na araw.
00:50.1
Tingnan po natin, ingat-ingat po, inom na maraming tubig, keep yourselves hydrated.
00:56.1
Ngayong gabi ang pag-uusapan po natin.
00:58.2
Kung kumastahin po natin, ano lang po ba yung nangyayaring development dyan sa International Criminal Court?
01:03.7
Dahil alam niyo po, the past few days talaga nakatutok yung marami sa atin dito sa bangayan sa pagitan ng First Lady Lisa Aneta Marcos at saka ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
01:16.7
Ang pinaka-huling balita po dyan ay nagpalabas po ng statement si Vice President Sara Duterte,
01:23.1
nagpapasalamat kay BBM dahil patuloy dahil yung tiwala sa kanya.
01:28.2
Ang pinaka-huling balita po dyan ay nagpalabas po ng statement si Vice President Sara Duterte at saka ni Vice President Sara Aneta Marcos at saka ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
01:58.2
Nandun ka sa rally kung saan tinutuligsa yung presidente mo at pinapapabasa pwesto.
02:06.0
And of course, yung kapate at tatay ni Sara Duterte ang sasakit ng mga sinabi against President Marcos.
02:13.3
Anyway, ito po, meron pinalabas sa balita kanina si dating Senadora Sunny Trellanes.
02:23.0
Meron daw pakikipag-usap na nangyayari o nangyayari na sa pagitan ng ICC.
02:28.2
At humigit or more than 50 active and retired PNP officials kaugnay dito sa drug war ni Duterte na iniimbestigahan sa ICC.
02:38.6
Pag-usapan po natin yan, makakasama po natin ngayong gabi si former Senator Sunny Trellanes.
02:44.1
Magandang gabi sir and thank you for joining us dito po sa Facts First.
02:47.8
Magandang gabi muli sa iyo Christian at sa ating viewers.
02:52.5
Okay. Sige sir. Pag-usapan nga natin itong tinuit niyo kanina at nilabas siya sa social media.
02:57.0
Ano po bang basihan nito? More than 50 PNP officials kinausap na ng ICC?
03:03.8
Opo. Gaya nga nung tweet natin, base sa highly reliable information,
03:12.7
yung ICC nga ay nag-communicate na sa mahigit 50 active and former PNP officials
03:21.9
informing them that they are implicated in the crimes against humanity.
03:27.0
It's a reality case of Duterte sa ICC.
03:32.3
At ang ibig sabihin nito ay kailangan nilang i-clear yung sarili nila by engaging with the ICC.
03:43.1
Otherwise, pagka hindi na-challenge yung mga ebidensya na nag-implicate sa kanila doon,
03:51.3
therefore may elevate yung kanilang estado.
03:54.9
So, bilang suspect na, no?
03:58.6
At pag naging suspect na sila, pwede na silang eventually masubject dyan sa mga travel restrictions
04:07.3
na mga ICC member countries.
04:11.4
Tapos, pwede na silang mapaisyohan ng blue notice muna ng Interpol.
04:18.4
Tapos, pag nag-progress na yung kaso, Interpol red notice din.
04:23.3
At pagka gano'n, pwede na silang ma-arresto.
04:28.8
So, gano'n po yung escalation ng status.
04:36.1
Okay. Bago po natin himayin pa yung binabangkit ng mga impormasyon,
04:41.4
pag-usapan muna natin yung paano nyo ba nasagap yung balita na yan.
04:45.2
When you say highly reliable source, what exactly do you mean?
04:48.9
Of course, you don't have to name names.
04:50.5
Pero, let's just establish the credibility.
04:53.3
Benefit of the viewers.
04:56.6
Dahil isa po tayo sa mga pangunahing nag-file ng communication,
05:01.7
nagkaroon po ng engagement ang ICC sa atin since 2017 pa.
05:11.2
So, nag-update kami dun sa estado ng mga ibang mga testigo
05:17.6
at yung mga iba pang mga nakakalap na impormasyon.
05:23.3
So, tuloy-tuloy ang pagpasa sa kanila.
05:25.7
Tapos, gano'n din naman sila.
05:27.5
Nag-update sila.
05:28.9
Nagbibigay sila ng mga heads-up dun sa mga nangyayari.
05:37.2
Nasa gano'n, ano naman.
05:39.4
Hindi naman mawala ng loob yung mga interesado dyan sa kaso na yan
05:45.9
by not getting any word from them.
05:50.0
So, meron ganong exchange.
05:53.3
Now, I'm not saying na sa kanila ko nag-nakuha mismo yan
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dahil bawal yan sila magbigay ng ganyang impormasyon.
06:03.9
Let's just say na meron tayo na pagkukuha na ng mga ganyang klaseng balita.
06:10.2
At ito naman, itong mga previous na mga impormasyon natin,
06:16.8
eh ano naman yun, na-validate naman yun.
06:19.4
Kung maalala ninyo, nung finile namin itong kaso na ito,
06:23.3
maraming mga magagaling na mga abogado from both sides of the political fence
06:29.9
na sinasabi, mahina daw yung kaso, diretsyo daw yan sa basura,
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may mga politiko pang nagsabi ng gano'n.
06:37.2
And yung Duterte administration was very sure na ibabasura lang yan.
06:44.7
Pero kinalaunan, nag-conduct ng preliminary examination
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just like what we told them.
06:52.1
Tapos nung nag-withdraw si Duterte sa ICC,
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sinasabi nila, wala nang jurisdiction yan, wala nang mangyari.
07:09.5
O sinabi natin, base sa impormasyon natin, yung investigation ay ikakandak na.
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So gano'n nang nangyari.
07:18.7
Pati yung jurisdiction issue, sinabi natin na gano'n.
07:22.1
Hindi nang kalalabasan.
07:24.8
So, yun na yun.
07:26.9
We stand by those previous validated information.
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Yung sinabi rin natin na dumating dito sa ICC nung December,
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yung mga prosecutor, ay dumating sa Pilipinas yung ICC prosecutors nung December,
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mismong kampo nila Duterte ang nag-validate nun.
07:49.3
Di ba?
07:52.1
Nailabas natin yung impormasyon na yun.
07:54.9
So, anyway, ito na ngayon yung latest.
07:59.5
Okay.
08:00.2
So, magandang batting average.
08:02.9
Confirm yung mga revelations galing po sa inyong.
08:07.0
Yung binabanggit niyo pong communicate.
08:09.5
Nakapag-communicate na ICC dito sa more than 50 retired and active PNP officials.
08:16.0
Ano po ibig sabihin nun?
08:17.4
Nagpunta ba sila dito personally to communicate?
08:19.7
Can you give us more details about that?
08:22.1
So, either through phone po yan, through phone message or email.
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Nakakuha po sila ng mga contacting addresses, email addresses, tsaka numbers.
08:39.3
So, yun po ang kanilang mode of communication.
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Yan po.
08:44.5
Yung sinabi niyo, implicated in the ICC information or communication
08:49.9
against the former president.
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Ano ba exactly ibig sabihin pag implicated itong mga PNP officials na ito po?
08:58.8
Ibig sabihin po nun, meron silang nakalap na ebidensya,
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whether documentary or testimonial evidence na nag-dawit sa kanila
09:11.0
dito po sa Crimes Against Humanity.
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So, nadawit sila.
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So, because of that, as part of the due process,
09:18.3
sila ay iniinformahan na kayo ay dawit dito.
09:22.1
Parang ano yan eh, kumbaga pinagpa-file ka ng counter-affidavit mo.
09:30.4
Parang ganon.
09:31.8
Para ma-clear mo yung sarili mo.
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Otherwise, pagka hindi ka nag-cooperate dyan,
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ma-elevate yung status mo to a suspect.
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Kasi, ano na eh, hindi mo dinisput yung ebidensyang nakalap
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dun sa kanilang investigation.
09:52.1
Can they also turn into witnesses against former officials
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na mas mataas sa kanila?
09:58.8
Kunwari, katulad ni President Duterte?
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Pwede po yun.
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Kaya, it is up to them whether they will cooperate or not.
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So, yun yung kanilang way to exonerate themselves from this case.
10:15.0
Yan po.
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Itong ano, pag sinabi niya pong PNP officials,
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how high are...
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or where the ranks in relation to the performance of their duties
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nung conduct po ng drug war?
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Ibat-ibang mga ranggo po.
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From the very high until dun sa mga involved dun sa mga operations on the ground.
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Even mga mid-level or mid-ranking officers.
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So, yun po.
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Hindi po natin kasi mapapapalagay.
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Napangalanan.
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Kasi, ano naman.
10:56.2
Malalagay sila sa piligro pag napangalanan sila.
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Okay.
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Tapos ito, sir.
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Kasi, di ba, I understand.
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Dito sa ICC investigation,
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technically, wala pa naman kasing formal charges.
11:12.0
Tama po ba?
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Hindi pa naman talaga napupunta sa ganun level.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, no?
11:18.1
Nag-iimbestiga pa yung ICC prosecutor.
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Pero, yun nga po.
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Di ba, ang tumok naman dito,
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hindi naman kailangang mapapanagot lahat ng mga involved sa drug war.
11:27.2
Di ba, yung mga maliliit.
11:28.9
Di ba, kailangan dito yung pinakamalalaking isda.
11:31.1
Tama po ba?
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Opo.
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Ganun po ang disenyo nitong ICC.
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They're interested dun sa mga mastermind
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or dun sa mga talagang pinakamabibigat yung kasalanan.
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Hindi ko mo ikaw ay sarhento,
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pero yung role mo naman ay napaka-strategic
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or integral dun sa buong operation,
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pwede ka pa rin madawid doon.
12:00.6
So, hindi tinitignan dito yung ranggo
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kung hindi yung level of responsibility
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as regards to crimes against humanity.
12:08.9
At ito, for sure, may mga abogado na nanonood nito ngayon.
12:16.5
Kinukumpara nila palagi doon sa criminal justice system natin.
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Yung proseso natin, iniisip nila ganun din.
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Iba po ang proseso ng ICC.
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Yung investigation stage,
12:32.9
ito, pagka sila ay ready na sila
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or confident na sila that they have enough evidence
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against the all concerned,
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magpa-file na sila ng application for warrant
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doon sa pre-trial chamber
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even before ito formally naisasampa sa ICC court.
12:59.8
So, meron ganun para masecure nila
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kasi walang trial in absentia ang ICC.
13:08.1
Kaya, importante na ma-issuehan ng warrant
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bago pa magsimula yung trial.
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Dito kasi, isasampa sa korte yung...
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kaso, tapos yung judge
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ang mag-i-issue ng warrant of arrest
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pag nakakita niyang merong probable cause.
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So, nasa korte na.
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Dito, wala pa sa korte.
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Meron lang tinatawag na pre-trial chamber
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na yun yung mag-re-review
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nung application for warrant of arrest.
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So, yun po.
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Okay.
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Dito po sa mga kinausap na ng ICC,
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na mga dati at active na PNP official,
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sabi niyo, more than 50.
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Kasama po ba dito si Bato de la Rosa,
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na ngayon ay senador,
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pero siya po yung nag-implement ng drug war early on
14:02.3
bilang PNP chief?
14:05.1
Palagay ko, it goes without saying
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na talagang kasama na siya dyan.
14:10.1
Anyway, alam din naman niya yun
14:11.9
na alam din naman niya na kasama siya.
14:16.3
Pero,
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baka hindi siya kasama
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kasama necessarily dun sa
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yung na-communicate-an ng ICC
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kasi given na yung status niya na ano na siya eh,
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principal, ano siya eh,
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principally involved siya eh, no?
14:40.2
Hindi siya accessory, no?
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Or hindi minor yung kanyang role.
14:45.3
So, given na yun.
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So, baka hindi na siya
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in-informed as implicated
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kasi isa na siyang primary suspect.
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Eh nga po,
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help me understand po, no?
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Sir,
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so, hindi na mukha, hindi na kinausap si Bato de la Rosa
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dahil malaki yung involvement niya
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doon sa pagkapatupad ng drug war.
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So, yung mga kinausap,
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ibig sabihin pwede pa itong gawing witnesses, ganun?
15:15.8
Pwede pa makakuha ng additional information
15:18.2
from them
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that could help build the case against the principals.
15:22.4
Ganun po ba yan?
15:23.9
Yes.
15:24.8
Ngayon, in fact,
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ang sinasabi ko lang,
15:27.6
iba yung proseso sa kanila.
15:31.3
Iba yung mga minor players, ikaw nga.
15:35.5
Pero even the Senator Bato,
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palagay ko,
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kaya pa rin niya ma-exonerate yung sarili niya
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kung talagang ano siya,
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makukonvince niya yung Korte
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na ano lang siya, inutusan siya
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at hindi naman siya talagang
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yung instrumento doon sa pagpatay, no?
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I'm not saying, ano yan, that will be bought,
16:05.0
but theoretically, pwede pa rin siyang maging
16:08.0
witness against Duterte.
16:13.1
But it is up to him, no?
16:15.7
Pwede naman niyang isugal,
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isa palara na lang,
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kung mag-sama-sama na sila nila,
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nila di kung kunsan man sila dadalhin
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ng kanilang landas.
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So again, theoretically, pwede pa rin, no?
16:32.0
At saka po, officially, no?
16:33.2
Wala pa naman talagang formally accused
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dito sa iniimbestigahan ng ICC, di ba?
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Wala pong formally accused.
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Tama po ba?
16:41.8
We are just deducing based on the information
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we submitted.
16:47.6
Yung mga evidence, yung mga testigo na humarap
16:50.9
kung sino yung mga madalas na may mention,
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sino yung substantial, yung ebidensya,
16:59.5
madeduce mo na from there.
17:01.4
Pero yung mga na-implicate kasi,
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meron pa rin, ano eh,
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pagka lumawak yung investigation,
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eh pwede silang na-elevate eh.
17:13.5
Ganun.
17:14.6
Sa pagkakaalam niyo ba,
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bumalik na yung,
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ICC investigators dito sa Pilipinas
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since December?
17:22.0
Or babalik anytime soon?
17:24.5
Palagay ko, hindi na nila kailangan bumalik.
17:27.0
Mukhang nagawa na nila yung kailangan gawin.
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Nakausap nila yung kailangan kausapin.
17:32.4
Kaya,
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kaya dinededuce din natin
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na nasa wrapping up stage na sila
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ng investigation.
17:38.5
Kaya nga, we made the approximations eh
17:41.6
during our past interviews
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na late second quarter
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lalabas.
17:47.6
Yung,
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yung warrant.
17:50.0
No?
17:50.4
That is based on our
17:52.4
approximations
17:54.9
or estimates.
17:56.8
Okay.
17:57.7
Speaking of the possible issuance
18:00.3
of an arrest warrant by the ICC
18:02.3
against former President Rodrigo Duterte
18:05.2
and the other principals,
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binanggit po
18:09.0
in the not so distant past.
18:12.6
Medyo ilang linggo lang po ito nakalipas.
18:14.7
Binanggit ni President Marcos
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kung sakaling magpalabas ng arrest warrant
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ang ICC,
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ay hindi po niya isusuko
18:21.5
si dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte.
18:24.5
I mean, what they make of that
18:25.7
statement coming from the President?
18:30.1
Okay.
18:30.5
Ang masasabi ko dyan,
18:32.5
si President Marcos
18:33.9
will say what he needs to say,
18:37.7
but he will do
18:38.7
what he needs to do.
18:40.4
Okay?
18:41.1
Kasi sa mga ganyang level,
18:42.8
sa level ng Presidente
18:46.8
or ng administrasyon,
18:49.0
there are things that they cannot say.
18:51.4
No?
18:52.1
Kaya,
18:53.0
isespeculate mo lang
18:54.6
ano ba yung nangyari talaga
18:56.0
sa likod nito?
18:58.3
Ano ba ito?
18:59.3
Diba?
19:00.2
Ito na ba ito?
19:01.6
Is this
19:02.2
is this it?
19:05.6
Or meron pang
19:06.7
mga kolatilya yan dyan sa
19:09.2
sa baba?
19:10.9
No?
19:11.4
Even si President Aquino,
19:14.1
naobserbahan ko closely,
19:16.8
ano yan,
19:17.6
very candid na tao yan,
19:19.7
but,
19:21.0
pagka
19:21.7
humaharap siya sa publiko,
19:25.2
ano pa rin siya?
19:26.2
Maraming filters.
19:27.3
Kasi nga,
19:28.1
ano yan eh,
19:28.8
maraming komplikasyon.
19:31.7
Pagka naging,
19:32.9
ano ka,
19:34.0
candid,
19:34.9
yung
19:35.7
yung candor mo,
19:37.9
may complicate matters
19:40.1
further.
19:41.2
No?
19:41.9
Intindihin natin,
19:42.9
meron silang minamanage na audience.
19:45.6
Minamanage nila itong,
19:46.8
kanilang base,
19:48.9
diba?
19:49.5
Ano ang magiging reaction,
19:51.2
diba?
19:52.0
So,
19:53.4
kailangan natin bigyan ng
19:54.9
ganong espasyo.
19:57.6
But,
19:58.2
it doesn't mean na
19:59.8
yun naman talaga.
20:02.4
Okay?
20:03.2
So,
20:03.6
we will have to wait and see
20:05.1
pagdating nung warrant,
20:08.2
kung ano talaga yung gagawin.
20:10.7
Okay?
20:11.3
So,
20:11.8
yun lang ang masasabi natin doon.
20:13.9
In short,
20:14.6
hindi ito pwedeng tingnan po
20:15.7
na, ano,
20:16.2
assurance,
20:16.8
on the part of
20:17.6
Duterte and his camp na,
20:19.1
oh,
20:20.0
paulit-ulit na binabanggit niya
20:21.2
ng presidente,
20:22.0
na hindi niya papapasukin
20:23.2
yung ICC,
20:24.4
at hindi ka naman isusuko
20:25.7
yung pinakalatest na statement,
20:27.9
hindi pa rin siya
20:28.6
assurance.
20:29.7
Kumbaga,
20:30.0
kung kayo si Duterte,
20:31.4
hindi pwede magpakakampante
20:32.7
despite that assurance,
20:34.2
supposedly.
20:36.7
Yes.
20:38.0
And, in fact,
20:38.7
Duterte knows that.
20:40.2
Hindi niya,
20:41.1
he will not
20:41.7
hold on to the word
20:43.6
of President Marcos.
20:45.9
Kung bagay ang kapalaraan,
20:46.8
parang niya ilalagay niya doon.
20:48.5
Kasi,
20:49.1
alam naman niya,
20:50.1
eh, siya pa.
20:51.4
Lalo na si Duterte
20:52.8
mismo, no?
20:54.4
Ilang beses
20:55.3
niyo narinig yan
20:56.2
na yung public
20:57.1
pronouncement niya
20:58.4
ay
20:59.5
iba.
21:01.6
In fact,
21:02.1
talagang baliktad
21:03.4
yung
21:03.8
ginagawa niya
21:05.2
doon sa
21:05.6
public pronouncement niya.
21:07.4
Ilang beses
21:08.0
niya na yung sinabi,
21:08.8
di ba?
21:09.6
O, yun na lang,
21:10.2
doon sa pag-
21:10.8
pagtakbo na lang niya,
21:12.7
o sabi niya,
21:13.3
hindi siya tatakbo,
21:14.1
paulit-ulit yun.
21:15.8
Di ba?
21:16.1
O,
21:16.8
tapos,
21:18.0
sa kanyang selective,
21:19.1
pagka yung,
21:19.8
if the truth is convenient
21:21.1
for him,
21:21.8
sasabihin niya yung totoo.
21:23.2
If a lie
21:24.5
is convenient for him,
21:26.0
then we'll tell a lie.
21:27.1
Kung baga,
21:28.0
walang,
21:28.6
ano,
21:30.5
wala,
21:31.0
hindi siya nag-a-act to believe
21:32.2
o nag-hesitate
21:33.6
to use a lie.
21:37.2
And,
21:38.0
hindi lang naman
21:38.7
ganun yan.
21:39.6
Pati si,
21:41.2
itong,
21:43.2
kaya yun nga,
21:43.7
nung panahon ni
21:44.5
ni President
21:45.7
Akita,
21:46.8
hindi, no,
21:48.1
maraming,
21:49.1
makikita mo,
21:49.7
finifilter eh,
21:50.6
yung nagpipigil,
21:52.4
hindi mo pwedeng
21:53.1
sabihin ka agad
21:54.4
kasi
21:54.9
malaki yung,
21:56.8
yung
21:58.0
damage.
22:00.1
Maaring ang ginagawa nilang
22:01.7
way out,
22:03.9
na tipong,
22:04.7
pag-aaralan po natin yan,
22:07.2
inutusan ko na ito
22:10.3
para pag,
22:11.1
pag-isi,
22:12.8
ano,
22:13.9
pag-aaralan yung isang problema,
22:15.6
mga ganun.
22:16.1
Pero,
22:16.8
in the sense,
22:17.3
actually,
22:18.5
nagawa na,
22:19.4
more or less,
22:20.0
yung ano,
22:20.5
so nagpe-facing na lang sila
22:21.8
ng communication.
22:23.4
Kailangan natin
22:24.1
intindihin yun
22:25.3
sa,
22:26.6
sa mga ganyang level,
22:28.8
yung public communications
22:30.0
kasi meron kang
22:31.1
minamanage
22:32.0
na,
22:33.4
na audience,
22:34.5
na emotions
22:35.0
ng audience.
22:36.4
Okay,
22:37.1
malinaw po yan, no?
22:38.9
Ito pong,
22:39.5
ano,
22:40.2
parang escalation
22:42.0
nung
22:42.4
atake ng mga Duterte
22:44.0
against President Marcos.
22:46.2
Do you think,
22:46.8
this has something to do
22:48.3
with this
22:49.6
core issue?
22:51.2
The possibility that
22:52.5
the ICC would issue
22:54.4
an arrest warrant
22:55.1
and that President Marcos
22:57.3
would cooperate?
22:59.6
I believe it's one of the,
23:01.6
the,
23:02.7
the issues,
23:04.0
but not
23:04.8
the sole issue.
23:06.8
I believe,
23:07.8
um,
23:08.9
nagsimula ito
23:10.1
nun nga
23:10.8
nag,
23:11.5
nag,
23:12.1
nagkahulihan dun sa mga,
23:14.3
ano niya,
23:14.6
yung
23:15.0
Davao Mafia niya,
23:16.8
yung mga polis na
23:17.9
na-involved dun sa
23:18.8
droga,
23:20.5
yun,
23:21.0
nung nahuli si Bantag,
23:22.5
si Tebes,
23:23.3
lahat ito,
23:24.2
mga Davao group ito,
23:25.3
yung mga kasindikato
23:26.5
ni Duterte yan eh.
23:28.2
Um,
23:29.1
o yung mga yan,
23:29.8
umaasa,
23:30.8
na the only,
23:31.9
o pati ngayon,
23:32.6
si Kibuloy.
23:33.8
So,
23:34.0
these people,
23:34.8
ang only way out nila
23:36.2
na,
23:37.8
dun sa situation nila ngayon,
23:40.1
is makabalik sa pwesto
23:41.3
yung mga Duterte.
23:42.6
Di ba?
23:43.3
So,
23:44.0
ngayon,
23:44.6
for Duterte himself,
23:45.6
hindi lang itong,
23:46.8
yung pag-save niya dun sa
23:48.4
kanyang criminal enterprise,
23:50.1
kasi,
23:50.7
magkakantahan na yung mga yan,
23:52.5
pagka naipit,
23:54.5
gusto rin niyang i,
23:56.1
ano,
23:56.6
i-save yung sarili niya
23:58.1
from the ICC.
23:59.4
Di ba?
24:00.3
So,
24:00.6
in the case nung Kikibuloy,
24:02.7
nakatali din dyan yung mga,
24:05.0
mga ninakaw niya eh.
24:06.5
So,
24:07.0
kumaga,
24:08.1
marami siyang mga personal
24:09.7
reasons to do so.
24:12.3
One,
24:13.6
major reason
24:15.0
is the ICC,
24:16.0
but it,
24:16.4
it is,
24:16.8
it is not
24:17.1
the sole reason.
24:19.1
So,
24:19.7
yan na lang
24:20.2
ano natin.
24:22.7
Okay.
24:23.4
Pero,
24:23.6
how serious itong,
24:24.6
ano,
24:24.8
itong idea?
24:26.1
Kasi hindi naman itong first time
24:27.2
na nabanggit niya rin,
24:28.2
no?
24:28.7
Yung idea na dinidistabilize
24:30.4
ni,
24:31.0
ni dating Pangulong Duterte,
24:33.7
yung
24:33.9
current administration
24:35.5
because of reasons
24:36.3
that you cited.
24:37.6
At this stage,
24:38.4
kasi nakita natin,
24:39.5
meron ding palitan,
24:40.9
di ba?
24:42.0
Yung first lady
24:43.0
nagsalita na
24:43.8
against the vice president,
24:46.2
so,
24:47.2
pero minamanage siya
24:48.2
ni BBM,
24:48.9
di ba?
24:49.7
So,
24:50.5
how serious yung,
24:51.2
ano,
24:51.6
yung idea
24:52.4
ng
24:53.6
destabilization
24:54.8
at this stage po?
24:57.1
It,
24:57.4
it is very serious,
24:59.0
no?
24:59.3
It is very serious.
25:01.0
At,
25:01.3
ito rin ang
25:02.1
titignan natin.
25:05.5
By June 30,
25:07.4
two years na
25:08.5
na
25:09.6
ang maglalap
25:12.6
since nagstart
25:13.5
yung term.
25:15.2
Ngayon,
25:15.7
kung ano man
25:16.8
na mangyari
25:17.4
for whatever reason
25:19.0
at mawala
25:20.2
sa pwesto
25:20.9
si
25:21.1
President Marcos,
25:23.2
mag-a-assume
25:24.0
si Sarah Duterte
25:25.2
after,
25:26.0
assuming
25:26.5
after June 30,
25:28.7
ngayon,
25:29.1
eligible na siya
25:30.0
for re-election
25:30.8
sa 2028.
25:33.4
Okay?
25:34.2
Eligible na siya
25:35.2
sa re-election
25:36.2
sa 2028
25:37.1
just like
25:37.9
what happened
25:38.7
nung
25:39.1
Ed Sados,
25:40.9
yung kay Gloria Arroyo.
25:42.7
Hindi sila gumagalaw
25:44.2
noon
25:44.5
nag-pick up
25:45.7
at ipigil sila noon
25:46.6
ng paggalaw
25:47.3
until
25:48.1
nag-lapse yung
25:49.1
two years.
25:50.5
Tapos,
25:50.9
after nung two years
25:52.1
ni
25:52.5
ERAP,
25:54.1
doon nila pinagalaw
25:55.0
yung kanilang
25:56.5
plot.
25:58.9
Kaya,
25:59.3
nung eventually
26:00.1
it led to the
26:01.1
ouster of
26:01.8
President ERAP,
26:03.4
naupo ngayon
26:04.0
si GMA,
26:05.9
pwede na siya
26:06.4
tumakbo
26:06.9
ng 2024.
26:09.8
Ngayon,
26:10.2
ganun din
26:10.6
ang
26:11.8
ano netong
26:13.5
Duterte camp.
26:15.7
Okay?
26:16.4
So,
26:17.0
noona,
26:17.7
talagang sinusubukan nila
26:18.9
for various reasons,
26:21.1
eh,
26:21.3
kasi nag-pre-fail.
26:22.2
Ngayon,
26:23.3
because of the
26:24.2
proximity
26:25.2
ng ICC
26:26.1
warrant,
26:27.0
as you mentioned,
26:28.9
tapos,
26:29.9
pwede na.
26:30.7
Pwede na sila
26:31.3
mag-all out
26:32.0
kasi nga,
26:32.7
pag naupo si Sarah,
26:34.9
pwede na siyang
26:35.5
mag-tenure
26:36.6
presidency
26:38.0
kung
26:38.8
magtatagumpay sila.
26:42.1
So,
26:42.8
yun ang
26:43.0
basa nyo
26:44.2
sa time frame
26:45.4
kung meron man.
26:46.2
It's not necessarily
26:47.0
next year.
26:48.4
Basta kailangan
26:49.1
after two years,
26:50.0
after June 30.
26:52.3
Yes.
26:53.0
And,
26:53.4
ano to, no?
26:54.5
Kung baga,
26:56.4
titignan kasi natin,
26:57.6
ipo-profile natin
26:58.8
yung mga Dutertes.
27:01.3
Titignan natin,
27:02.5
ano ba ito,
27:03.0
mga ito?
27:04.1
Palagay nyo,
27:05.3
mag-okay lang
27:06.5
sa kanila
27:07.0
na ganito yung
27:08.6
sitwasyon nila,
27:09.4
yung wala sila
27:10.5
sa puder,
27:11.6
they're at the mercy
27:12.7
of the
27:13.6
political wind,
27:15.4
kung saan dadalhin.
27:17.3
Hindi sila ganyan.
27:18.6
They were never
27:19.4
not in control
27:21.6
sa kanilang
27:23.4
faith.
27:24.5
Nung,
27:25.1
even nung nasa Davao sila,
27:27.2
nagpa-part,
27:28.6
nagmamodus
27:29.5
bibendi si
27:30.1
the national government
27:31.3
para magproteksyonan
27:32.4
yung kanilang
27:32.9
turf.
27:34.3
Pero ngayon,
27:36.4
under siege sila.
27:37.4
Hindi nagpigil
27:38.4
itong Marcos
27:39.1
administration
27:39.8
to run after
27:40.8
yung mga
27:41.8
kasindikato nila.
27:43.1
Ang unahin na dyan,
27:44.0
si Kibuloy.
27:44.6
Kaya ngayon,
27:45.4
talagang
27:47.1
threatened na sila.
27:49.0
Then here comes
27:49.6
the ICC.
27:51.7
Titignan natin,
27:52.5
ito bang sila
27:53.3
Duterte?
27:54.2
Palagay nyo,
27:54.7
magpipigil ito
27:55.5
na hindi nila
27:56.9
papatalsikin si Marcos
27:58.3
kasi
27:58.8
ano sila,
28:00.4
dissenting mga tao
28:01.4
sila
28:02.5
or
28:02.9
mga
28:03.8
ano sila,
28:05.2
tumaharap
28:07.5
ng mga consequences
28:08.5
ng mga action sila.
28:10.1
Hindi.
28:10.7
Hindi sila gano'n.
28:12.1
Di ba?
28:12.5
On the contrary,
28:14.8
papatay sila.
28:15.2
Papatay sila.
28:15.2
Papatay sila.
28:15.3
Papatay sila.
28:15.3
Papatay sila.
28:15.4
If it will
28:17.2
meet
28:19.0
their
28:19.6
desired ends.
28:21.7
Di ba?
28:22.2
Hindi naghihesitate ito
28:23.7
to kill
28:25.0
political
28:26.0
foes.
28:28.0
Di ba?
28:29.5
Si
28:29.7
lahat
28:30.7
ano na yan,
28:31.9
yung history nila
28:32.8
ando doon na yun.
28:34.2
So,
28:34.7
bakit natin
28:35.7
i-assume
28:36.4
despite that history,
28:39.6
eh mag-iiba
28:40.2
ang gagawin nila
28:41.4
kay President Marcos.
28:43.1
So,
28:43.5
very predictable.
28:45.0
They will
28:45.3
now
28:45.8
go all out
28:47.2
para lang
28:49.0
masave nila
28:51.2
yung sarili nila.
28:52.8
And,
28:53.2
the only way
28:54.6
for them to do that
28:55.5
is to oust
28:56.4
President Marcos.
28:58.7
Okay.
28:59.4
Puntahan naman po natin
29:00.5
yung response
29:01.2
ni BBM
29:02.1
so far
29:02.7
sa mga pag-atake
29:03.9
ni President,
29:05.6
former President Duterte
29:06.8
ng dalawa niyang anak.
29:08.9
Tapos,
29:09.2
si Sarah Duterte,
29:10.2
miski hindi directly
29:11.1
binabanatan si BBM,
29:13.4
eh yung kanyang
29:14.0
kilos naman
29:14.7
para,
29:14.9
parang says otherwise.
29:16.4
Diba,
29:16.5
umaaten po siya
29:17.2
ng mga rally
29:17.8
kung saan tinutuya
29:19.3
o pinapabagsak
29:20.6
si President Marcos.
29:23.5
Bakit sa tingin niya
29:24.2
yung sagot
29:24.6
ni President Marcos?
29:26.1
Parang,
29:27.1
sabi na iba,
29:28.2
weak eh.
29:29.1
For instance,
29:29.7
sabi niya,
29:29.8
yung mga sagot niya is
29:30.8
it must be the fentanyl.
29:33.7
Tapos,
29:34.2
diba,
29:35.2
hindi niya,
29:35.5
hindi niya,
29:35.8
hindi niya ginagantihan.
29:38.3
Ang sinasabi na iba,
29:39.5
baka daw may utang na loob
29:40.8
dahil
29:41.9
hindi siya mananalo
29:43.1
ng ganyan
29:44.2
kung wala yung mga things.
29:44.7
So, mga Duterte,
29:45.7
ano po bang basa niyo?
29:47.7
Palagay ko,
29:48.8
iba eh no.
29:49.7
Pag tinitignan mo nga
29:50.8
yung track record
29:52.7
ni
29:53.0
President Marcos
29:55.0
before he became president,
29:57.8
wala kang maririnig
29:58.6
na sinabi niyang
29:59.8
negative
30:00.7
publicly
30:01.6
against anyone.
30:05.0
Nung
30:05.6
binabanatan siya ni
30:07.2
ni Cayetano
30:08.8
doon sa debate
30:09.5
noong 2016,
30:11.3
not a word eh.
30:12.4
Before,
30:12.8
I mean,
30:13.7
after,
30:14.1
and during,
30:15.9
hindi.
30:16.5
Meron siyang message
30:17.6
discipline eh.
30:19.4
Meron siyang message
30:20.0
discipline.
30:20.8
Ngayon kung sasabihin natin
30:22.0
hindi maganda
30:24.5
strategy yan
30:25.5
but
30:25.9
let's remember
30:27.1
because of
30:27.9
this
30:28.5
style niya,
30:30.6
eh,
30:31.2
he is now president.
30:33.1
It may have been
30:34.0
a very long game
30:35.1
o baka sinwerte siya
30:36.2
but
30:36.5
at the end of the day,
30:39.1
yung strategy niya
30:40.2
ng ganyan
30:41.5
na
30:42.0
walang masamang
30:43.2
tinapay,
30:44.1
got him
30:46.7
to the presidency.
30:48.7
So,
30:49.4
who's to say that
30:50.4
that strategy
30:51.5
is not a good strategy?
30:55.0
Kaya nga
30:55.3
ang tinitignan ko na lang dito
30:56.9
is
30:57.5
si siya,
30:60.0
si President Marcos,
31:02.1
says
31:02.9
what he needs to,
31:05.5
he will say what he
31:06.6
he needs to say,
31:08.5
but
31:08.8
in the end,
31:10.6
he will do what he needs to do.
31:12.7
So,
31:14.1
yun naman yun.
31:15.5
And,
31:15.9
kung titignan natin yung
31:17.0
kay
31:17.3
yung kay
31:18.6
first lady na interview,
31:22.7
do you actually think
31:24.4
na hindi
31:25.4
hindi alam ni
31:27.0
President Marcos
31:28.7
yung interview na yun?
31:30.5
At na ganoon yung
31:31.3
sasabihin niya?
31:33.6
Di ba?
31:34.1
Ni first lady?
31:35.3
We will have to assume
31:36.7
na
31:37.6
nakamada ng maayos yun.
31:40.6
Hindi aksidente yun.
31:41.7
Hindi yun
31:42.5
ambush interview.
31:44.1
Hindi.
31:45.1
It was set up.
31:46.1
Di ba?
31:47.1
Kaya,
31:48.1
ah,
31:49.1
tingnan natin.
31:50.1
Doon natin
31:51.1
ma-analyze na
31:52.1
iba
31:53.1
yung
31:54.1
sa loobin.
31:55.1
No?
31:56.1
Or at least
31:57.1
let us hope so.
31:58.1
Ang
31:59.1
anong effect nun
32:00.1
kila
32:01.1
kina
32:02.1
Duterte,
32:03.1
kina Sara,
32:04.1
it confuses
32:05.1
them eh.
32:06.1
Di ba?
32:07.1
Kasi if you
32:08.1
wear your
32:09.1
heart on your sleeve,
32:10.1
ano eh,
32:11.1
more or less
32:12.1
mape-predicate
32:13.1
yung
32:13.6
mape-predict nila
32:14.6
mababasa ka na eh.
32:15.6
For
32:17.6
this approach,
32:18.6
eh, hindi,
32:19.6
hindi ganon.
32:20.6
Hindi nila mabasa.
32:22.6
Naku-confuse sila.
32:23.6
Samantalang sila,
32:24.6
basang-basa na.
32:25.6
Pero sila,
32:27.6
hindi nila mabasa itong
32:29.6
kalaban nila.
32:31.6
Tama naman,
32:32.6
napaka-weird na.
32:33.6
For instance,
32:34.6
yung first lady,
32:35.6
nagpa-interview ng ganong kahaba.
32:36.6
Hindi alam ng presidente.
32:38.6
Sasabihin sa kanya
32:39.6
after the fact, no?
32:40.6
Alam naman natin na hindi,
32:41.6
hindi ganon yung case.
32:42.6
Hindi ganon.
32:43.6
Pero dito,
32:44.6
anong tingin niya yung mensahe?
32:45.6
Mukha bang yung
32:46.6
mga ibang sa loobin
32:47.6
ng presidente
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pinadaan dun sa interview
32:49.6
ng first lady?
32:51.6
Tama ba?
32:52.6
Mukha bang ganon?
32:53.6
For sure.
32:55.6
For sure.
32:56.6
Kasi ano yun eh,
32:57.6
human nature naman eh.
32:58.6
Grabe yung mga pangiinsulto
33:00.6
sa kanya eh.
33:01.6
At itong,
33:02.6
ano,
33:03.6
Duterte camp,
33:04.6
kahit na anong
33:06.6
postura ni
33:07.6
ni Sara,
33:08.6
in the same vein pala, no?
33:10.6
Naniniwala ba tayo
33:11.6
si Sara na talaga,
33:12.6
ano siya?
33:14.6
Wala siyang sama ng loob
33:15.6
kay President Marcos
33:19.6
at kay first lady
33:21.6
na ganon?
33:22.6
Nakita mo yung
33:23.6
pag-restrain niya sa sarili niya?
33:25.6
Na-imagine ko,
33:26.6
yung totoong sa loobin nun,
33:27.6
talagang sumisigaw na yun.
33:29.6
Talagang nagwawala na yun.
33:31.6
Kaya, may ganon eh.
33:32.6
May public communications na
33:34.6
kailangan nating basahin
33:37.6
hindi natin sali
33:38.6
sa body language
33:39.6
kasi iba magaling magtago eh, no?
33:41.6
Kung hindi yung
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information
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sa loob.
33:45.6
Ano ba yung information sa loob?
33:47.6
Ano yung mga
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ah,
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debate doon,
33:51.6
mga diskurso doon?
33:52.6
Doon natin malalaman kung ano yung sa loobin.
33:55.6
Yun.
33:56.6
Who do you think got the upper hand?
33:58.6
Kasi nagsalita si first lady
34:00.6
Lisa Marcos,
34:01.6
di naman siya madalas magpa-interview.
34:03.6
Pakalda yung tin-interview niya.
34:05.6
Tapos sumagot si Sara Duterte,
34:07.6
specific dun sa binanggit ni
34:09.6
first lady
34:10.6
Lisa Marcos na
34:12.6
bad chat na sa kanya si Sara Duterte
34:14.6
and number two,
34:15.6
she crossed the line.
34:16.6
Kapag ina-narrace naman natin,
34:17.6
talaga mabibuset ka naman talaga
34:19.6
kung yung vice president
34:21.6
umattend ng ganong rally
34:22.6
kung saan tinawag na bangag yung asawa mo.
34:24.6
Pero ang sagot ni vice president Sara Duterte,
34:27.6
walang kinalaman sa mandato ko yung
34:29.6
yung sa loobin niyo
34:31.6
at mag-uusap na lang kami ni President Marcos
34:33.6
between us.
34:34.6
And after that,
34:35.6
sinabi ni President Marcos,
34:36.6
eh, Sara would stay put
34:38.6
dito sa aking gabinete.
34:39.6
Tapos kanina,
34:41.6
nagpasalamat yung Sara Duterte.
34:43.6
Parang ano, no?
34:44.6
Parang napaka-predictable nung ano eh,
34:47.6
nung senaryo.
34:48.6
Parang pelikula.
34:49.6
Anyway,
34:50.6
sa tingin niyo,
34:52.6
who got the upper hand
34:53.6
in this particular episode?
34:55.6
Was it Sara Duterte?
34:57.6
Or BBM?
35:00.6
Maniwanag na ang nanalo dito yung
35:03.6
Marcos administration.
35:05.6
Kasi,
35:06.6
dun sa sa loobin
35:08.6
ni First Lady,
35:10.6
maliwanag
35:11.6
yung mensahe sa buong
35:13.6
burokrasya
35:15.6
na kalaban itong
35:17.6
si Vice President Sara.
35:19.6
Yun,
35:21.6
walang ambiguity doon.
35:23.6
Hindi,
35:25.6
yun yung linna.
35:27.6
Ginuhitan niya.
35:29.6
Kasi yung statement naman ni
35:31.6
ni VP Sara,
35:33.6
ano yun eh,
35:35.6
kinocontain na lang niya yung dami.
35:37.6
Pero siya yung na-diminish doon.
35:40.6
Ang ginagawa ko nga dito palagi
35:42.6
sa yung political mathematics na tinatawag ko,
35:46.6
in any situation,
35:49.6
in any political event,
35:52.6
whether interview yan
35:54.6
or isang ibang event,
35:57.6
ang tanong mo dapat doon,
35:59.6
nadagdagan ka ba?
36:01.6
O nabawasan?
36:03.6
Nung nagsalita si First Lady,
36:06.6
nadagdagan ba siya o nabawasan?
36:09.6
I believe nadagdagan siya.
36:11.6
Kasi,
36:12.6
itong base niya na-consolidate.
36:15.6
Tapos yung burokrasya
36:17.6
na nasa gitna,
36:19.6
dahil naku-confuse doon sa mga signals,
36:22.6
hindi na ngayon confused.
36:24.6
Dito yan.
36:25.6
Dito na sila.
36:26.6
At importante yan sa ganitong political warfare.
36:29.6
Remember, developing country tayo.
36:32.6
Kung developed country tayo,
36:34.6
yung burokrasya,
36:36.6
nasa gitna yan,
36:38.6
regardless kung sino yung nagbabangayan.
36:40.6
Pero dito, as a developing country,
36:43.6
sumusunod tayo doon sa timon nung nakapuesto.
36:47.6
Siya ang nag-set ng direction na iyon.
36:51.6
Doon naman sa statement ni VP Sara,
36:55.6
na gano'n, na parang,
36:58.6
inam na lang niya,
37:00.6
brinash off lang niya.
37:01.6
Pag titignan mo,
37:03.6
parang hindi naman siya nadagdagan,
37:05.6
pero hindi rin siya gaano nabawasan,
37:09.6
kumbaga na-minimize niya yung damage.
37:11.6
But, palagay niyo after noon,
37:14.6
anong magiging reaction ni First Lady
37:17.6
doon sa sinabi niya?
37:19.6
Ginalit lang niya eh.
37:21.6
Lalo.
37:22.6
Ininsulto niya eh.
37:24.6
Di ba?
37:25.6
Ano yun?
37:26.6
Mabigat yun.
37:27.6
So, in the end,
37:30.6
ikaw pa rin yung talo,
37:32.6
kasi sila yung nakapuesto eh.
37:34.6
Ginalit mo lang eh.
37:36.6
Di ba?
37:37.6
O, yung ego niya,
37:39.6
maaring she felt good about it afterwards,
37:42.6
but in the grand scheme of things,
37:45.6
kalaban mo yung administration,
37:48.6
ginigil mo yung First Lady.
37:52.6
Di, paano kang naging positive sa iyan?
37:57.6
Kasi yung mga tumitingin lang doon sa
38:00.6
demeanor,
38:02.6
yung statement,
38:03.6
yung mga ganon,
38:05.6
yung mga image handlers,
38:09.6
pag titignan nila,
38:11.6
they may say something differently.
38:14.6
Baka iba yung assessment nila.
38:16.6
Pero hindi lang naman yun eh.
38:18.6
May big picture ka,
38:19.6
may big political picture kang tinitignan.
38:22.6
Yung images na yun,
38:24.6
ano lang yun?
38:26.6
Yun lang yung pinaka-superficial.
38:29.6
But, yung impact noon,
38:31.6
yun ang mas magandang
38:33.6
makita at i-assess.
38:35.6
Yung given this, no?
38:38.6
Sa tingin niyo bakit binanggit din ni
38:42.6
First Lady yung Lenny Robredo
38:44.6
doon sa interview na iyan?
38:46.6
Di ba? Sinabi niya,
38:47.6
not even Lenny did that.
38:50.6
Ano yung nakita niyong goal doon?
38:53.6
Ang nakita ko, kung sinabi lang yun
38:56.6
basta-basta na random,
38:59.6
maaari,
39:00.6
pero nung
39:01.6
hinighlight nung kanilang social media machinery,
39:06.6
yung fact na yun,
39:08.6
aba,
39:10.6
ibig sabihin nun, nanliligaw.
39:12.6
Nagkakaligawan doon sa pink forces.
39:15.6
Kasi nasa gitna ngayon yung pink forces eh.
39:18.6
Ano ba? Sino ba ang papanigan dito?
39:21.6
Di ba?
39:22.6
So, ito na ngayon.
39:24.6
Parang ano yan, it's
39:27.6
binubuksan yung pinto na tipong
39:29.6
hindi na kayo kaaway ngayon.
39:32.6
That could be the subtle message
39:35.6
doon sa pag-drop ng pangalan
39:38.6
ni VP Lenny
39:40.6
na symbolic leader pa rin
39:43.6
nung buong pink movement.
39:45.6
Tapos nga po, given what has been
39:49.6
what have been said
39:51.6
between the back and forth
39:53.6
between the two camps, no?
39:55.6
Although sinabi ni President Marcos na stay put,
39:58.6
si Sarah Duterte sa DepEd.
40:01.6
Kayo, kung kayo nasa situation na ganyan,
40:03.6
ni Sarah Duterte,
40:05.6
okay pa ba to stay in the official family?
40:08.6
Kung tatay mo, mga kapatid mo,
40:11.6
minumura yung presidente,
40:13.6
na boss mo bilang member ka ng gabinete,
40:16.6
di ba napaka-weird yung gano'ng situation?
40:18.6
Yet, you still prefer to stay on.
40:21.6
Palagay ko ang tinitignan nito nila
40:24.6
VP Sarah, yung mga pros and cons, no?
40:27.6
Kaya na nga, yung cons na tipong
40:30.6
ando doon na yung pamilya mo,
40:32.6
binabalahura ka na dyan,
40:34.6
di ba, ino-ostracize ka na dyan slowly, no?
40:37.6
Tapos awkward na yan tuwing cabinet meetings.
40:40.6
Baka kung sinong mapapalapit sa'yo,
40:44.6
ipinipicturean yun.
40:45.6
Sino bang cabinet secretary
40:47.6
yung medyo chami-chami kay VP Sarah?
40:51.6
Parang baka mamarkahan yun.
40:53.6
So, ma-isolate siya.
40:55.6
Pero,
40:56.6
ang tinitignan ko rito sa mga to,
40:58.6
based doon sa pag-profile namin sa kanila,
41:01.6
ano to?
41:02.6
Resource-driven yung kanilang makinarya
41:06.6
or yung kanilang image handling and projection.
41:10.6
So, by sticking it out doon sa DepEd,
41:14.6
matitake advantage nila yung resources ng DepEd.
41:18.6
Di ba?
41:19.6
So, magagamit nila yun for holding on to their political base.
41:25.6
Kaya, natitong, sige na,
41:27.6
kung sabihin n'yong walang delikadesa,
41:30.6
bahala kayo dyan.
41:32.6
Basta pipigain ko tong resources ng DepEd
41:36.6
for as long as I can.
41:38.6
Di ba?
41:39.6
So, baka doon natin maganda tignan
41:42.6
doon sa aspeto na yun.
41:43.6
Kasi wala na silang confidential funds
41:46.6
sa vice president, ano eh,
41:48.6
office of the vice president.
41:50.6
Kung yun na lang ang maiiwan,
41:52.6
eh, itong mga ito daw, ano,
41:53.6
eh, pagka daw pumasok yung mga resources,
41:59.6
parang check valve eh.
42:01.6
Pumapasok lang pero hindi lumalabas.
42:03.6
So, hindi bubunot siya mga yan.
42:05.6
So, mahihirapan silang mapanghawakan yung kanilang political base
42:11.6
pagka wala silang resources.
42:14.6
Yun ang aking tingin.
42:16.6
Kasi talagang nakakahiyana eh
42:19.6
kung titignan mo sa aspeto ng delikadesa,
42:22.6
yung, yun nga, yung self-respect.
42:26.6
But wala sa kanila yun eh.
42:30.6
Pero, di ba, tinanggal na rin siya ng confidential funds
42:34.6
dito sa national budget as DepEd?
42:38.6
Di ba, tinanggal na rin po yan?
42:40.6
Although, siyempre, meron pa rin siyang,
42:42.6
meron pa rin resources definitely ang DepEd
42:44.6
dahil education gets the biggest appropriation,
42:47.6
di ba po, by law.
42:48.6
Yes.
42:49.6
And aside dun sa confidential funds kasi,
42:52.6
meron silang mga, probably, yung mga staff nila,
42:57.6
yung mga ground staff nila,
42:58.6
pwede nilang maipasok yan kung saan saan.
43:01.6
Tapos, yung physical resources ng DepEd,
43:06.6
yung mga eskwelahan, yung mga ano,
43:09.6
pwede nilang maging base of operations yan
43:12.6
sa kanilang mga local political partners.
43:16.6
Marami pa eh. Marami pa.
43:19.6
Tapos, yung ano, yung buong,
43:22.6
mga teachers.
43:24.6
Di ba, ito mag-eeleksyon.
43:26.6
So, alam nyo, nasa COMELEC sila yung ginagamit.
43:29.6
Maraming pwedeng i-exploit
43:35.6
ng isang wala sa ayos na DepEd.
43:39.6
Pero sa tingin nyo, hanggang kailan sila pwede magplastikan?
43:43.6
Or hindi issue yan between these two political families?
43:47.6
Ito, ano ko lang, hula ko lang.
43:50.6
Ang palagay ko, for sure after 2025,
43:55.6
ano na yan, magsusulian na ng kandila, ikamat.
43:59.6
Kasi meron pa silang minamanage itong 2025 elections.
44:06.6
Yung electorate dito, shared base pa rin nila eh.
44:10.6
Di ba?
44:12.6
They would need each other's vote na maanggihan yung boto ng admin.
44:19.6
Yung from the Mindanao base ng mga Dutertes.
44:24.6
Pero once that is done,
44:27.6
after 2025, ano na?
44:31.6
Ano na yan? Gloves are off na yan.
44:35.6
Wala nang pigilan yan.
44:37.6
Yun ang nakikita ko.
44:39.6
Isa pa pala. Tawa ba sabihin na malaki ang utang na loob ng BBM dito sa mga Duterte
44:45.6
sa pagkapanalo po niya noong 2022?
44:49.6
Kung elections ang pinag-uusapan,
44:54.6
kung straightforward, kung tumakbo si Sarah, tumakbo si BBM, si Lenny,
45:02.6
palagay ko baka nag number 3 si BBM sa ganong sitwasyon.
45:09.6
Pero hindi naman niya ano eh.
45:12.6
Sa kanya naman talagang dumating lang eh.
45:15.6
Di ba?
45:17.6
Dina-disregard or dinis-obey ni Sarah yung mga gusto nung tatay niya.
45:24.6
Di ba? Hindi naman mapipredict ni President Marcos yun at that time.
45:29.6
Talagang things just fell into place.
45:32.6
However, assuming meron mang utang na loob,
45:36.6
assuming may utang na loob man,
45:38.6
palagay ko nabayaran na yun nung binigyan siyang cabinet position,
45:42.6
tapos yung mga initial favors na nakuha ng Duterte administration,
45:47.6
pero palagay ko quits na yun after that.
45:50.6
In the same vein na itong noong 2016,
45:56.6
tumulong yung mga Marcos kay Duterte at nanalo siya roon.
46:04.6
Kapalit naman doon na ilibing sa libingin ng bayani si President Marcos Sr.
46:12.6
So parang quits na rin doon.
46:14.6
Kasi nung sa electoral protest sa Supreme Court,
46:20.6
15-0 naman si BBM doon sa protest niya kay Lenny Robredo.
46:30.6
Kaya kumaga, tapos na doon.
46:32.6
At that point in time, quits na.
46:34.6
Nagkabayaran na ng utang na loob.
46:37.6
Pero nga po, hindi ko rin ma-imagine kung paano pa ma-repay
46:41.6
yung relationship between BBM and President Marcos.
46:43.6
BBM and former President Duterte.
46:45.6
Although sinabi nga ni BBM doon sa FOCAP interview,
46:49.6
it's complicated yung relasyon niya sa mga Duterte.
46:52.6
Pero kay Sara daw, ganun pa rin since nung election.
46:55.6
Pero how do you repair that or keep a semblance of normalcy?
47:00.6
Kung pinagmumura siya ng dating Pangulong Duterte.
47:04.6
Diba, tinawag na Adic Bangag.
47:07.6
Diba, minumura siya, PI ka.
47:09.6
Hindi ka nakagraduate, second year college ka lang.
47:12.6
I mean, paano ka babangon doon sa ganun pang-iinsulto?
47:14.6
I don't know. I'm not a politician.
47:16.6
Pero what do you think?
47:18.6
Hindi na yun. Wala na.
47:20.6
Kumbaga, nagkasunugan na ng tulay.
47:23.6
But more than yung sinasabi mong pagmumura,
47:26.6
these people actually moved to have President Marcos ousted.
47:33.6
Diba? Tapos ngayon, teka may mga disturb-disturb pa.
47:39.6
Ibig sabihin nun, babalik na naman yung nightmare, yung trauma ng Marcos family nung 86.
47:47.6
Diba? Tatandaan natin, yung plano nila Henry Lennon, nila Gringo, was to kill the first family.
47:58.6
Yun ang plano nila.
48:00.6
Na hindi sinunod nung mga aide ni President Marcos Sr. na nag-ram.
48:09.6
Kaya sila yung naging whistleblowers nung time na yun, na udlot yung kanilang plano.
48:16.6
Nung panahon ni Cory, ang plano nila Henry Lennon, nila Gringo, was to kill the first family ulit.
48:28.6
Diba? So ngayon, ganun dito.
48:31.6
Pagka ouster ang pinag-uusapan, ano yan?
48:37.6
Hindi natin sasabihin na wala silang masamang iniisip para dito kina the Marcos family.
48:48.6
For that matter, na-mention daw ni Bastet na yung Romanov.
48:53.6
Oo, tsaka Mussolini.
48:55.6
Oo, Mussolini. So ibig sabihin talagang bibitayin o ipapiring squad yung family, yung Romanov, kasi buong pamilya yun.
49:04.6
Oo.
49:05.6
Kaya yun yung papaano.
49:06.6
Oo. Ibig sabihin talagang bibitayin o ipapiring squad yung family, yung Romanov, kasi buong pamilya yun. Kaya yun yung papaano.
49:07.6
Ano mo i-re-repair?
49:08.6
Ang tanong dito, sige assuming mag-uusap.
49:12.6
It's now a trust issue.
49:15.6
Si Duterte ba pagkakatiwalaan mo?
49:19.6
Diba? For that matter, the Duterte family.
49:22.6
Pagtitiwalaan mo ba yung mga yan?
49:25.6
Samantalang ilang beses nang kanantinangkang patalsikin at saktan.
49:33.6
Yun ang kailangan.
49:35.6
So with that,
49:36.6
talagang ikaw malabo na.
49:38.6
Okay.
49:39.6
Sir, panghuli.
49:40.6
Pasensya na habang na-interview natin, baka may lakad kayo.
49:43.6
Pinakahuli na ito.
49:44.6
Nagtatanong po yung isa sa mga viewers natin, si Margarita Perla.
49:48.6
Please ask Sen. Trillanes what his political plans are and what the status of the real opposition is.
49:54.6
Ano po ba?
49:56.6
Okay.
49:57.6
Ako po, ang tinitignan po natin ay tumakbo for a local position.
50:04.6
Diyan po sa kaloocan, for mayor, hindi pa po set in stone but we are almost there.
50:13.6
Yun po ang masasabi natin.
50:15.6
Dito naman sa status ng real opposition, ang si Sen. Kiko, Sen. Baum, at si Atty. Cheldjok, sila yung tatakbo.
50:33.6
Ngayon, si former Vice President Lenny Rubredo, base sa ating impormasyon, ay tatakbo bilang mayor ng Naga.
50:44.6
So in the meantime, si Sen. Riza Ontiveros ang nag-a-act as the leader of the opposition.
50:55.6
Pero sinasabi ko nga sa kanya, I am advising her, antayin mo na lang muna.
51:02.6
Not yet.
51:03.6
Tipong, siguro after the elections, pag totally nag-abdicate na si VP Lenny.
51:11.6
Pag nagsabi na siyang ayoko na ng national, local na lang ako talaga, di yun.
51:16.6
Kasi hindi niya talaga, yung shadow ni VP Lenny masyadong malaki na hindi magsashine talaga si Sen. Riza for as long as it's there.
51:31.6
So kailangan ma-re-resolve ba yan?
51:32.6
Ma-re-resolve ba yan?
51:33.6
After the elections.
51:35.6
After 2025.
51:40.6
Ano po yung konteksto pala nun, yung bilanggit niyo? Baka tumakbo for mayor ng Naga si Lenny Rubredo. Ano yung konteksto nun? Bakit mayor ng Naga?
51:49.6
I really don't know. Based on what I heard, ano lang. Parang siguro mas komportable na babalik sila dun sa roots ni nila Jessie.
52:01.6
Nila Jessie Rubredo, gano'n. Iyon ang, ayan yun po.
52:09.6
Maraming maraming salamat po Sen. Sunny Trillanes for joining us tonight. Malalim yung mga naging diskusyon natin at malalim po inyong analisis.
52:17.6
Thank you very much for joining us po ngayong gabi dito pa sa Fax pitch.
52:22.6
Maraming salamat, Christian.
52:25.6
Ayan. Ayan po si former Sen. Sunny Trillanes.
52:29.6
Yan ang maganda kay Sen. Trillanes na nilala, hindi yung analisis yung mga kitlaliman ng panino.
52:30.6
Sen. Trillanes. Diretso yung mga sagot.
52:32.8
Wala nang pakiyot.
52:34.4
Anong tinanong nyo? Ano bang political plans niya?
52:36.5
Eh yun. Most likely mayor.
52:39.2
Diba? Iba kasi nagpapakipot pa eh.
52:41.4
No? Straightforward sumagot
52:42.8
si Sen. Trillanes.
52:44.9
Okay. Iba kasi magpapakit
52:46.9
pa eh. Ah. Diba?
52:48.6
Ano ba yung sagot usually ng mga politiko pag tinatanong nyo?
52:51.4
Tatakbo ba kayo?
52:52.7
Ah. Ano eh.
52:54.8
I hate politics but I love
52:56.6
public service. Yung mga ganun pakit ng mga
52:58.5
politiko eh. No? Eh yun sa kanya. Diretso
53:00.5
na yung sagot. Okay.
53:02.5
So ang dabayanan natin. Although nga yung
53:04.2
nadidinig natin. So naghahanda siya
53:06.4
para sa pagtakbo sa pagka-mayor
53:09.0
sa 2025
53:10.4
dyan po sa Caloocan City.
53:12.7
Kunsaan taga dyan din naman si
53:14.1
Sen. Sonny Trillanes.
53:16.6
Pero medyo mabigat po yung
53:18.4
kalaban niya dyan. Isang dinastiya.
53:20.6
Yung dinastiya na mga malapitan.
53:23.1
Tingnan natin kung ano yung magiging
53:24.2
takbo ng ano.
53:25.7
Ng kampanya dyan sa Caloocan.
53:28.5
Okay. So malalim.
53:30.7
Ang dami natin napag-usapan. Kung gagawa
53:32.6
ako ng isang mga storya
53:34.7
dito sa. Kunwari kung gagawa ka ng
53:36.4
article about this interview.
53:38.5
Maraming pong mga
53:39.2
storya. Nalumabas dyan.
53:43.3
Okay.
53:46.5
Lalo yung sinabi niya na quits na raw.
53:48.8
Kung meron mga utang na loob si BBM
53:50.4
sa mga Duterte. Eh quits na.
53:52.7
Eh in-appoint na raw sa Department of Education
53:54.7
sa Sarah Duterte.
53:56.1
Although diba ang nadinig natin.
53:58.5
It's not actually eyeing the
54:00.0
education portfolio.
54:02.2
Ang gusto niya was Department of National Defense.
54:05.4
Looking back.
54:07.1
Ano ba sa tingin niyo?
54:08.2
Kung siya yung naging Department of National Defense
54:10.2
Secretary.
54:13.4
Parang nakakatakot siya tayo.
54:15.3
Especially in the context of
54:16.6
China's aggression dyan sa West Philippines.
54:18.7
Kung si Sarah Duterte
54:20.4
ang Secretary of National Defense
54:22.3
mo. Diba?
54:25.8
Mabuti nilang.
54:27.3
Eh kaso,
54:28.5
competent ba siya para maging
54:30.9
o magsilbing
54:32.6
Secretary ng Department of Education?
54:37.2
Eh yung paulit-ulit natin na binabanggit
54:39.2
dito sa ating programo. Napaka-importante po
54:41.3
pag kayo pumili
54:42.2
ng mga susunod na leader natin.
54:46.3
Kahit pa pano,
54:47.4
mag-iwan naman kayo ng puwang
54:48.9
para sa meritocracy.
54:51.2
Merit-based.
54:52.1
May performance ba?
54:53.7
Meron bang track record to speak of
54:56.2
itong mga ihahalal nyo sa
54:57.8
important positions.
54:59.9
Kasi kung walang kwenta,
55:01.3
laway lang ang puhunan dahil sikat lang.
55:04.7
Eh huwag kayong
55:06.1
magtataka
55:09.0
kung wala silang gawing mabuti
55:10.6
o tama.
55:12.1
Ginusto nyo yun eh.
55:13.6
Ang problema, damay kami.
55:15.7
Eh, saan?
55:17.5
Sa kabubuhan nyo.
55:20.1
Yun po ang totoo dyan.
55:22.0
Okay?
55:23.0
So mababati lang po muna tayo.
55:24.8
Bukas nga pala, April 25,
55:27.8
we will mark our second anniversary
55:30.7
ng ating
55:31.8
Facts First Live Episodes.
55:34.2
Bukas po yan.
55:35.2
So, abangan nyo
55:37.1
ang ating episode live
55:39.4
bukas,
55:41.2
April 25.
55:43.3
Okay? So, batiin mo natin yung mga
55:45.4
nag-message sa atin. Si Joy Serenas,
55:47.4
sabi niya, watching you live from
55:49.7
California.
55:51.5
Shout out kay Joy Serenas.
55:54.5
Ayan.
55:54.8
Ayan.
55:56.6
Si Ray Buwan,
55:57.8
watching from Tamias, Quezon City.
56:00.2
Nag-message si Renato Alegre.
56:03.0
Shout out kay Richard Bisnar,
56:04.6
teacher ng Imos City.
56:07.4
Maraming salamat, Jun Furio.
56:10.1
Ikaw ba yung nurse?
56:12.0
Uy, Jun, maraming salamat sa'yo.
56:14.3
Ikaw ba yun? Tama?
56:15.2
Yung nurse na pinabati ni
56:17.7
misis noong isang araw.
56:19.2
Maraming salamat, Jun, eh.
56:21.5
Rosita Balibagoso,
56:23.7
maraming salamat po.
56:24.7
May, maraming salamat po.
56:26.6
Thank you.
56:27.8
Thank you.
56:28.3
Eto, baka makalimutan ko lang po, ano.
56:31.4
May mga isa-shout out tayo.
56:33.6
Nag-message po sa akin
56:34.5
si Mr. Gene De Jesus.
56:36.5
Magandang araw po muli.
56:38.2
Pakigreet naman po ang aming anak
56:39.7
na si Bazu De Jesus.
56:43.2
20th birthday niya ngayon.
56:44.6
April 24.
56:45.8
Happy birthday sa'yo, Bazu De Jesus.
56:49.7
Bazu De Jesus.
56:52.0
Maraming salamat po.
56:52.8
Pa-shout out na rin po sa mga...
56:57.8
Ha? Ano yun?
57:00.7
Totoo ba yan?
57:01.6
Sabi, pakishout out na rin po
57:03.2
yung mga dumukot sa kanila.
57:04.5
Pakibalik na po sa amin
57:05.6
ang aming mga mahal sa buhay.
57:06.9
Ano po ibig sabihin nun?
57:08.2
I suppose this is a joke, no?
57:09.6
Sorry.
57:10.4
Pero happy birthday sa'yo, Bazu De Jesus.
57:12.4
Okay?
57:13.2
Si Corinne Candia Ferrer.
57:15.9
Magandang gabi po.
57:16.6
Pakibati naman po ang asawa ko,
57:18.1
si Renato Ferrer.
57:19.2
Happy birthday, si Renato Ferrer.
57:21.6
Isa po siya sa mga taga-subaybay ninyo
57:23.5
from Qatar.
57:24.5
Maraming maraming salamat, sir.
57:26.3
Thank you for watching.
57:27.1
Happy birthday po sa inyo.
57:28.8
Ayan.
57:29.3
Ang nag-message po sa atin
57:30.6
ay inyong asawa, si Corinne.
57:32.7
Eto naman, nag-post kahapon
57:34.1
sa ating Facebook page.
57:36.6
Late ko nang nabasa kagabi.
57:38.0
Pasensya na po.
57:39.3
Ang nag-message po si IVRM.
57:42.9
Y-V-E-R-M, sabi niya.
57:44.7
Please greet my husband,
57:45.7
si Dr. Marion Mangulabnan.
57:48.9
Ayan.
57:49.4
He's an avid Fox First fan.
57:51.0
Maraming maraming salamat po.
57:52.9
Shout out po sa inyo, Dr. Marlon Mangulabnan.
57:57.1
Okay?
57:58.1
Tapos si Mr. Toning Balang.
58:00.8
Ayan.
58:01.3
Nag-message siya kanina.
58:02.4
Natanggap na raw niya yung t-shirt na kanyang in-order.
58:04.8
Yung Trollbuster t-shirt.
58:07.3
Ayan.
58:08.1
Maraming maraming salamat, sir.
58:09.6
Shout out po sa inyo.
58:11.1
Diyan po sa Tacloban City
58:12.6
kay Sir Toning Balang.
58:14.6
Tapos si Ellison Cruz.
58:19.1
Christian, pasegway naman ang post-fight komentary mo
58:22.1
sa recent boxing fight ni Ryan Garcia and David Heaney.
58:25.9
Parang Game of Politics.
58:26.9
Salamat.
58:27.9
Faxnatics from Kainta Rizal.
58:30.4
Pwede, no?
58:31.4
Kaso baka abutin tayo ng isang oras dyan
58:33.4
kung ibibreak daw natin yung laban
58:35.4
between David Heaney and Ryan Garcia.
58:37.4
Okay?
58:38.4
Big boxing fan po tayo.
58:39.9
Kung hindi po tayo nagpo-political podcast,
58:41.4
siguro ginagawa natin ngayon
58:43.4
boxing podcast.
58:45.4
Pero mahaba po yung diskusyon dyan.
58:47.4
Doon po sa mga hindi familiar,
58:48.9
two American fighters po naglaban nitong weekend.
58:53.4
Nagsubscribe pa ako sa laban na yan sa The Zone app.
58:56.9
Dahil masugin na taga sa baybay po tayo.
58:59.9
Naglaban sila sa 140 super lightweight division.
59:04.9
Pero si Ryan Garcia, the brash, unpredictable boxer
59:09.9
na medyo hindi ganun ka-polished.
59:11.4
He knocked out David Heaney, a more disciplined fighter.
59:15.4
Pero hindi niya napanalunan yung title ni Heaney
59:20.4
dahil I think he came in overweight.
59:23.9
Mga 3.5 pounds.
59:24.9
Mga 3.5 pounds.
59:25.9
Mga 3.5 pounds.
59:26.9
Malaking bagay po yan sa boxing.
59:28.9
Anyway, sa ibang ano na yan.
59:30.9
Sa ibang pagkakataon na.
59:31.9
Tapos merong message from Mr. Emong Guevara.
59:34.9
Pwede bang pakibati sa aming silver wedding anniversary?
59:38.9
Ah, happy silver wedding anniversary ngayong araw na ito.
59:42.9
Kina Sir Emong Guevara at kanyang asawa, si Ma'am Rosanna Guevara.
59:49.9
Sabi niya, umuwi ako ng Pilipinas for our renewal of vows.
59:52.9
Team delay, team replay ako sa Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
59:55.9
I have two Facebook accounts.
59:57.9
Emong Guevara.
59:58.9
Pinapanood ko palagi ang Fox First News sa may YouTube account.
60:02.9
Minsan nakakachempo ako ng live yan.
60:04.9
Yan po sila.
60:05.9
Si Anselmo Alarila and Rosanna Alarila.
60:12.9
Ayan.
60:13.9
Ayan.
60:14.9
Okay.
60:15.9
Happy wedding anniversary po sa inyo.
60:17.9
Maraming maraming salamat sa pag-suporta.
60:21.9
Sir Herbie Ricardo, yan.
60:22.9
Madalas panood diyan.
60:23.9
Ayan.
60:24.9
Okay.
60:26.9
O.
60:27.9
Okay na ba kayo?
60:28.9
Bukas.
60:33.9
Anniversary episode natin.
60:36.9
At bukas din po natin ilalaunch ang ating anniversary shirts.
60:39.9
Yung may collar.
60:41.9
Kung interested kayo, punta po kayo sa ating official store sa Shopee tsaka sa Lazada.
60:47.9
Huwag niyo pupuntahan yung mga walang hiyang na may meke sa Shopee and Lazada.
60:52.9
Pinadala ko sa inyo dati yung pinost ko sa Facebook ko yung mga walang hiyang na may meke ng ating merch.
61:00.9
Okay?
61:01.9
So, yan po.
61:02.9
Ay.
61:03.9
Nako.
61:04.9
Nako.
61:05.9
Seryoso pala ito.
61:06.9
Sorry ah.
61:07.9
Si Baz.
61:08.9
Ito pala eh.
61:09.9
Okay.
61:10.9
Nako.
61:11.9
Totoo pala.
61:12.9
Okay.
61:13.9
Okay.
61:14.9
Okay.
61:15.9
Okay.
61:16.9
Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
61:19.9
Okay.
61:20.9
Okay.
61:21.9
Okay.
61:22.9
Okay.
61:23.9
Okay.
61:24.9
Okay.
61:25.9
Okay.
61:26.9
Okay.
61:27.9
Okay.
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Okay.
61:29.9
Okay.
61:30.9
Okay.
61:31.9
Okay.
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Okay.
61:33.9
Okay.
61:34.9
Okay.
61:35.9
Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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61:40.9
Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
61:45.9
Okay.
61:46.9
Okay.
61:47.9
Okay.
61:48.9
Okay.
61:49.9
Okay.
61:50.9
Nasa mabuting kalagayan
61:52.5
Nako
61:54.3
Sir GDSU sorry ah
61:56.8
Hindi ko naalala
61:58.1
Siya nga pala yun
61:59.0
Okay
61:59.8
Si ano
62:01.4
Si
62:02.1
Okay
62:05.0
Etiaktivista
62:07.8
Tama tama
62:08.7
Pasensya na po ano
62:10.6
Sana po mahalap na
62:15.3
Pasensya na po
62:16.0
Ayan
62:16.9
Okay sige sir
62:20.3
Maraming maraming salamat po
62:21.6
Kita kita po tayo bukas
62:23.1
Dito po sa Fox First
62:24.7
K830 po muli
62:26.4
Maraming maraming salamat po sa inyo
62:28.3
Sorry ah
62:30.7
Medyo naano ko ron
62:31.6
Naalala ko na
62:33.1
Pasensya na po
62:34.9
Hirap yung ganyan
62:37.7
Pag may mga binudukot no
62:38.8
Lalo pag gano
62:39.6
Anak yung nawawala
62:41.3
Grabe
62:41.8
Ayan
62:43.6
Sige po maraming salamat sa inyo
62:45.7
Kita kita po tayo bukas
62:46.9
Ako po si Christian Esguerra
62:48.8
Magandang
62:49.9
Kedipo


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