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00:00.0
We're weighed by Meta's disappointing quarterly results.
00:03.6
MegaCap tech stocks will remain in focus
00:06.0
with Alphabet, Microsoft, and Intel set to report today.
00:12.1
Here are some stocks to watch out for
00:14.1
when monitoring shares of Meta.
00:16.0
That's after the social media giant issued
00:18.0
light revenue guidance for the second quarter
00:20.6
as it forecasts higher spending.
00:22.9
Meta shares plunged 14% in pre-market trading.
00:26.3
This is the stock's biggest one-day decline
00:28.3
since October 2022.
00:30.6
Also in focus, shares of memory chip maker Micron Technology.
00:34.5
U.S. President Joe Biden is expected to announce
00:37.0
a preliminary deal with the company
00:38.9
for over $6 billion in subsidies
00:41.5
for two chip factories in New York.
00:44.1
Micron shares are up 0.5% before the bell.
00:47.0
We're also keeping a close watch on shares of Barclays
00:49.8
as the bank swings back to profit in the first quarter
00:52.7
amid a major strategic overhaul.
00:55.5
Shares of the British lender are trading higher by 6%.
01:00.0
Meanwhile, Asian markets ended Thursday trade
01:02.6
mostly lower as tech stocks slumped
01:05.0
following Meta's weak guidance.
01:07.5
Japan's CK225 tumbled more than 2%
01:10.1
while South Korea's KOSPI index fell 1.7%.
01:14.5
Here at home, the local bores closed flat,
01:17.7
barely managing to extend its winning streak
01:20.1
to a fourth day.
01:23.9
We're currently seeing a crucial support,
01:27.4
I guess, at 6,400.
01:30.0
And I think what the market is trying to do right now
01:33.5
is that it's trying to establish an oversold rally,
01:37.5
hopefully moving the index away
01:40.6
from its grossly oversold levels.
01:44.1
Afterwards, perhaps there could be another dip,
01:48.4
but we think that, or we're hoping to see
01:51.1
it establish a stronger base
01:53.5
from which it can rally once again
01:55.6
towards, I guess, its resistance.
02:00.0
To currencies now,
02:01.3
an intervention in the Japanese yen
02:03.1
expected on Thursday
02:04.2
following the Bank of Japan's policy meeting.
02:07.1
This is as the Tokyo currency
02:09.6
weakened past the key 155 level to the US dollar
02:13.9
to hit a fresh 34-year low.
02:17.3
As for the Philippine peso,
02:18.7
it also depreciated against the greenback,
02:20.9
closing at 57.78,
02:23.5
down for a second day.
02:25.8
The Philippine central bank reiterates
02:27.3
its case of the dollar's strength,
02:30.0
rather than the peso's weakness.
02:32.5
It adds it stands ready to take action
02:34.7
to contain excessive currency volatility.
02:39.9
Here are some local corporate headlines.
02:42.0
The Konsunji Group now venturing
02:43.5
into the cement industry.
02:45.2
That's after DMCI, Dacon Corporation,
02:47.7
and Semirata signed a share purchase agreement
02:49.9
to acquire the local subsidiary
02:51.8
of Mexican cement giant, Cemex.
02:54.3
DMCI will have a 56.7% stake
02:57.7
in Cemex Asian Southeast,
02:59.5
while DMCI will have a 56.7% stake
02:60.0
while its unit, Semirata,
03:01.4
will purchase 11% of Cemex shares.
03:04.0
The remaining stake will go to Dacon.
03:06.0
The purchase price, $305 million.
03:09.1
The sale is expected to close this year,
03:11.2
subject to approvals from regulators
03:12.9
and Cemex minority shareholders.
03:15.1
The news had investors excited
03:17.4
with Cemex shares surging 15%
03:19.7
in Thursday trade.
03:21.8
Meanwhile, Ayala Land
03:23.1
secures shareholders' approval
03:24.6
for its planned merger
03:25.8
with 34 subsidiaries.
03:27.7
The move aims to simplify
03:28.9
ownership stock,
03:30.0
which the property developer hopes
03:31.9
will lead to operational synergies
03:34.0
and efficient fund management.
03:36.3
Ayala Land's plan of merger
03:38.3
is now with the Securities and Exchange Commission
03:40.4
and is expected to be approved
03:42.4
within the year.
03:44.5
And finally, Bell Corporation
03:46.1
posts a 32% drop
03:48.4
in its first quarter bottom line this year.
03:50.8
The developer cites a decrease
03:52.2
in revenues, specifically from the
03:54.1
City of Dreams, Manila,
03:55.5
by its unit premium leasure.
03:58.7
Bell Corporation previously
03:59.5
set a tender offer
04:02.0
which ended Wednesday
04:03.0
to buy out PLC's minority shares
04:05.8
to delist it from the local bourse.
04:09.0
The Philippines has welcomed
04:10.8
2 million international visits
04:12.6
so far this year.
04:13.9
The tourism department said
04:15.4
as of March 31st,
04:17.3
nearly 1.9 million foreign tourists
04:20.2
and over 100,000 overseas Filipinos
04:23.1
entered the country.
04:24.4
That's 15% higher
04:26.0
than the international arrivals
04:27.7
recorded in the same period.
04:29.5
Last year,
04:30.5
tourism receipts hit
04:32.2
157.6 billion pesos
04:34.7
that amount
04:37.9
that's around 27 billion pesos
04:40.0
higher than in the same period
04:42.0
in 2019 or the year before
04:44.0
the pandemic lockdown.
04:46.3
South Korea remains the Philippines'
04:47.9
top source of visitors
04:49.0
followed by the US, China, Japan
04:51.6
and Australia.
04:53.0
The tourism department aims to welcome
04:54.9
7.7 million international visitors this year.
04:59.5
A new study by the International Labor Organization
05:03.1
found over 2.4 billion workers
05:05.4
across the world
05:06.4
are likely to be exposed
05:08.0
to excessive heat.
05:09.8
ILO says this leaves workers
05:11.8
vulnerable to developing
05:13.2
several diseases
05:14.3
such as skin cancer
05:15.8
and respiratory illnesses.
05:17.8
The agency urges companies
05:19.4
to take action.
05:22.7
It's critical that
05:25.2
risk and hazard assessments
05:27.6
be taken seriously
05:29.5
at the enterprise level.
05:31.3
So it's not just
05:32.1
it shouldn't just stop
05:33.1
at paper compliance.
05:34.7
It's required under the current laws
05:36.3
but what's important is that
05:38.1
it's taken seriously by
05:39.8
employers and workers
05:42.0
within the enterprise
05:43.9
as part of business
05:45.7
risk mitigation measures.
05:49.5
Beijing insists it adheres
05:51.8
to international market principles
05:53.5
after visiting US Secretary of State
05:55.4
Antony Blinken urged China
05:57.2
to provide a level playing field
05:59.5
for American businesses.
06:01.6
Blinken arrived in Shanghai Wednesday
06:03.5
and raised concerns about fair trade
06:05.8
during talks with local government officials.
06:08.5
He will be meeting with his counterpart
06:10.3
Foreign Minister Wang Yi
06:12.0
and possibly President Xi Jinping
06:14.5
on Friday.
06:19.5
China has always carried out
06:21.7
economic and trade cooperation
06:23.5
in accordance with the principles
06:25.1
of the market
06:25.8
and has always been firmly supportive
06:27.9
of the multilateral
06:29.1
trading system
06:30.2
and fully implements
06:31.3
the rules of the
06:32.2
World Trade Organization.
06:33.8
We hope that the US side
06:35.3
will respect the principle
06:36.4
of fair competition,
06:37.7
abide by WTO rules
06:39.4
and work with China
06:40.7
to create favorable conditions
06:42.5
for the sound
06:43.5
and steady development
06:44.6
of China-US economic
06:46.4
and trade relations.
06:51.6
We're taking a quick break.
06:53.3
Up next,
06:53.9
we talk to the country's
06:54.9
first equity crowdfunding platform
06:56.9
Round 1
06:57.5
when Business Outlook with
06:59.0
Returns.
07:06.0
Welcome back.
07:07.4
In 2022,
07:08.6
the country's first equity
07:09.7
crowdfunding platform,
07:11.5
Round 1,
07:12.5
was launched.
07:13.5
Managed and operated
07:14.3
by stock brokerage firm
07:15.6
Eastern Securities,
07:17.5
Round 1 aims to provide
07:18.6
a holistic solution
07:19.8
for entrepreneurs
07:20.7
to raise funds
07:21.5
and receive expert mentorship.
07:25.2
Joining us tonight
07:26.3
to talk about the state
07:27.3
of crowdfunding in the country
07:28.6
and Round 2,
07:29.0
we have Business Unit Lead
07:30.0
Brandon Leong
07:31.0
and Marketing Head
07:32.0
Charmaine Cabanquia.
07:33.0
Thank you so much
07:34.0
for joining us tonight.
07:35.0
Thank you for having us here today.
07:36.0
Thank you for having us.
07:37.0
Wait, so tell us about
07:38.0
how you're doing.
07:39.0
It's one year and a half
07:40.0
since you launched.
07:41.0
I know that it was a big event.
07:42.0
I read the news articles about it.
07:43.0
You had a lot of people
07:44.0
in that event
07:45.0
with SEC there,
07:46.0
some very big business people.
07:47.0
What has happened
07:48.0
since you launched?
07:49.0
I know that it was
07:50.0
a big event.
07:51.0
I read the news articles
07:52.0
about it.
07:53.0
You had a lot of people
07:54.0
in that event
07:55.0
with SEC there,
07:56.0
some very big business people.
07:57.0
What has happened?
07:58.0
What has happened?
07:59.0
Since then,
08:00.0
how has the platform grown?
08:01.0
How many people
08:02.0
have already raised funding?
08:04.0
So that was actually
08:05.0
more of an official launch for us.
08:08.0
It's not a grand launch
08:09.0
because we just got our license
08:11.0
and we just really want
08:12.0
to put ourselves out there.
08:13.0
And our focus was mostly
08:16.0
on finding prospective fundraisers
08:19.0
who really needed the help
08:20.0
of other financial institutions
08:23.0
and we offered ourselves
08:25.0
as one of the alternatives for them.
08:28.0
And, you know,
08:29.0
since then,
08:30.0
the year after that,
08:31.0
we focused on partnering
08:32.0
with different accelerators and incubators,
08:35.0
participating in the startup week
08:37.0
and just understanding
08:40.0
the ecosystem basically.
08:42.0
So we were quite fortunate
08:44.0
to have our very first
08:45.0
successful fundraiser
08:47.0
that succeeded his campaign
08:49.0
at the end of 2023,
08:51.0
December 2023.
08:52.0
And it really shows that
08:55.0
even though it's early
08:56.0
as a pre-seed,
08:57.0
somebody could actually
08:58.0
fundraise.
09:00.0
You know,
09:01.0
we also learned a lot
09:02.0
from interacting with the people
09:04.0
that really needed a solution like this.
09:06.0
So on the technology side,
09:08.0
I'm really happy to say
09:09.0
that we're going to be launching
09:11.0
our second version
09:12.0
of the platform very soon.
09:14.0
You know,
09:15.0
you put something out there
09:16.0
and there's so much to still learn
09:17.0
and improve on
09:18.0
and that's always a process
09:19.0
that never stops.
09:21.0
So on the technology side,
09:23.0
you know,
09:24.0
we've again implemented
09:25.0
a lot of interesting
09:26.0
sort of quality of life features.
09:27.0
On the ecosystem partnership side,
09:31.0
again,
09:32.0
you learn a lot from the people
09:33.0
that you,
09:34.0
that,
09:35.0
you know,
09:36.0
you hear exactly from them
09:37.0
what their needs are,
09:39.0
what their challenges are.
09:40.0
And our job is to maybe marry
09:42.0
what is already out there
09:44.0
in terms of people
09:45.0
that are helping,
09:46.0
people that want to assist entrepreneurs
09:48.0
and getting that kind of resource
09:49.0
to the entrepreneur themselves.
09:51.0
Before we talk about their challenges,
09:53.0
I want to ask about your challenges.
09:55.0
This is early.
09:56.0
What have been the growing pains,
09:59.0
major problems so far as well?
10:01.0
It's really because we are the first.
10:04.0
So it's a market that doesn't even know
10:07.0
that we exist
10:08.0
and know that they need us.
10:09.0
So that was the biggest challenge.
10:10.0
I love how it's always the women.
10:12.0
When you ask them about challenges,
10:13.0
they smile.
10:16.0
Go ahead.
10:17.0
So you're talking about this,
10:19.0
the challenges.
10:20.0
So it's getting the word out there
10:22.0
that you're here
10:23.0
and that even at Pre-Seed,
10:25.0
as you talked about earlier,
10:27.0
you don't have the proof of concept yet.
10:29.0
It's not yet a running business.
10:31.0
You can actually raise money
10:34.0
from people
10:35.0
who would like to own part of the business
10:37.0
or I think in your platform,
10:39.0
you could also borrow money
10:41.0
in the form of bonds.
10:43.0
Is that correct?
10:44.0
Yes.
10:45.0
The challenges.
10:46.0
Aside from equity,
10:48.0
fundraisers can also issue debt securities,
10:52.0
convertible note securities,
10:54.0
different kinds of securities that are allowed
10:56.0
under law and regulations here.
11:00.0
One of the challenges
11:01.0
really is sometimes demystifying it.
11:03.0
I mean, you could be a business owner
11:04.0
for a long time
11:05.0
and never have to put yourself,
11:07.0
let's say, in an investor's shoes.
11:09.0
What are they looking for?
11:10.0
What are the things that they want to hear
11:12.0
in terms of the business itself?
11:16.0
I think one of the misconceptions is that
11:18.0
do investors only want to hear good news?
11:20.0
I don't think that's necessarily true.
11:22.0
Investors want to know
11:23.0
what the real score is
11:25.0
so that they can plan,
11:26.0
they can risk manage.
11:27.0
So one of the,
11:28.0
I wouldn't say it's a challenge,
11:29.0
but it's helping people open up their eyes
11:32.0
about what the investment world is like
11:35.0
and how to speak to investors directly,
11:38.0
how to identify investors that you can speak to
11:40.0
who will support you
11:41.0
because you can't be everything to everybody.
11:44.0
So how do you go about talking to people
11:47.0
about how crowdfunding here in the country
11:51.0
will be able to help startups?
11:53.0
It would need some,
11:55.0
they're putting themselves out there.
11:58.0
You have to teach people,
11:59.0
you have to talk to people.
12:00.0
How are you going,
12:01.0
how are you doing that right now?
12:03.0
So we actually go to a lot of ecosystem partners
12:07.0
that we've identified so far.
12:09.0
So they're either potential sources of fundraisers
12:12.0
or sources of investors.
12:14.0
And what we've noticed is
12:15.0
you have to educate both the fundraisers and investors
12:19.0
because in order to create this ecosystem
12:22.0
that sort of supports each other,
12:25.0
you need to empower both
12:27.0
and you have to teach them
12:28.0
how to become better business owners at the same time.
12:31.0
Better business owners,
12:32.0
be transparent,
12:33.0
have good corporate governance,
12:35.0
and then you can attract the good investors
12:38.0
to invest in your company.
12:40.0
And for the investors,
12:42.0
we want to teach them to know their rights and responsibilities.
12:45.0
You don't just invest in the next person that comes to you.
12:48.0
I can imagine how difficult the conversation is.
12:51.0
And you launched at a time where private equity
12:56.0
and angel investors,
12:57.0
the funding in that area was drying out.
13:00.0
Absolutely.
13:01.0
With what happened I think to Silicon Valley Bank
13:04.0
and sort of the climate of investment in the world too.
13:07.0
I think that is part of the context as well.
13:11.0
And just generally people not taking risks like they used to.
13:16.0
But in a way,
13:18.0
I think that's why people turn to SMAs and SMAs.
13:21.0
Because the growth and the dynamism is there.
13:24.0
They provide so many jobs.
13:27.0
They provide essential services.
13:29.0
And so I wouldn't say recession-proof by any means.
13:32.0
They're also very sensitive to that.
13:35.0
But they are the drivers of innovation
13:39.0
when things like that happen as well.
13:41.0
We can't forget that they do that.
13:43.0
And I really think that support is very necessary.
13:46.0
Charmaine, you mentioned a while ago
13:48.0
that you were able to successfully help
13:50.0
one fundraiser.
13:52.0
Will you be able to tell us the story of that?
13:55.0
Yeah.
13:56.0
His business is actually in bike sharing.
13:58.0
Bike sharing?
13:59.0
Yes.
14:00.0
Very interesting because, again, it's pre-seed.
14:03.0
So meaning he has no proof of concept yet.
14:05.0
And this is a guy who used to work with the government,
14:09.0
was in corporate,
14:10.0
and was an OFW who came back to the Philippines.
14:13.0
So he got all his learnings
14:15.0
and came up with this business
14:17.0
that solved a pain point in Africa.
14:20.0
In fact, a part of his life.
14:21.0
When he was trying to move around in the university,
14:24.0
he was like,
14:25.0
this is hard because, you know,
14:27.0
again, he came from UP and he was like,
14:29.0
you have to walk and global warming.
14:33.0
You have to walk or ikot or talkie
14:35.0
and sometimes there's none.
14:37.0
Exactly.
14:38.0
So he wanted to fundraise
14:40.0
because he wanted to have his first pilot in UP Los Banos.
14:44.0
And he actually had different sources of fundraise.
14:48.0
He did a private race.
14:49.0
He did a bank loan.
14:51.0
And crowdfunding was just another angle.
14:53.0
How much did he raise?
14:54.0
He raised 2.1 million pesos from 25 investors.
14:58.0
How is he doing now?
14:59.0
Oh, he actually...
15:01.0
He's going around.
15:02.0
He's going around in the bike.
15:05.0
He actually bagged a new contract.
15:08.0
Yeah.
15:09.0
I don't think we can discuss it.
15:11.0
But, I mean, I think that's the power of the platform, right?
15:14.0
You put your story out there.
15:16.0
And I think statistics show, right?
15:18.0
Like for crowdfunders who are successful,
15:20.0
for every dollar they raise,
15:21.0
they can attract $4 in private equity.
15:24.0
So consider it as sort of a stage to advertise what they're doing.
15:28.0
So I guess someone took notice and, you know,
15:31.0
wanted to give it a shot.
15:32.0
Maybe we can have him here sometime soon.
15:34.0
I think that would be very interesting.
15:36.0
I think also the challenge is the language.
15:39.0
Filipinos were not born with slides or decks.
15:43.0
And we don't know the business of language.
15:46.0
At the same time, on the investor side,
15:47.0
sometimes there are expectations that are just too wild.
15:51.0
With the way Filipinos think about risk
15:54.0
and how much return you will get to compensate you for that risk,
15:59.0
I don't know if this is something that you have seen in the sector.
16:03.0
But actually, my question is,
16:05.0
how much is the total addressable market of crowdfunding again in the Philippines?
16:10.0
So when you look at how many SMEs are out there, right?
16:14.0
We're talking a million strong in this...
16:17.0
by last count, right?
16:19.0
A third of the GDP of the Philippines.
16:21.0
And based off of what we've seen talking to fundraisers,
16:26.0
imagine an average size only of maybe 500,000 pesos to a million pesos
16:32.0
for an SME's growth and capital expenditure.
16:37.0
You're looking at 500 billion to a trillion pesos in funding requirements, right?
16:42.0
Wow.
16:43.0
And the banks are not willing to give this to them?
16:46.0
The banks are doing what they can, I think,
16:49.0
based off of many sort of challenges in the market as well.
16:53.0
That's why alternatives should exist, right?
16:58.0
That's why the stock market exists.
17:00.0
If we just rely on banks, large commercial banks,
17:04.0
then there's just not enough capacity for that.
17:08.0
So that's why you have vibrant alternative exchanges.
17:11.0
That's why countries have more than one stock exchange.
17:14.0
So, you know,
17:15.0
in all fairness to banks, right?
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This is where the equity part of your sort of debt-to-equity ratio comes in, right?
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It's capital markets.
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Charmaine, what do you think should happen
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to change how crowdfunding works and is accepted and used here in the country?
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For me, it always has to start with the entrepreneur.
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Because, you know, we've spoken to almost, I think, 400, 300, 400 entrepreneurs
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at varying stages.
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Some of them are more ready than others, obviously,
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in different industries, different sectors.
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And it's always the same.
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It's like, are you ready to fundraise?
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How are you with your housekeeping?
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And who is your addressable market?
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What is your business strategy?
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How do you plan to grow?
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Where will you be three to five years from now?
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And what are you doing right now to gain the trust of your investors, basically?
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And if someone has this,
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this idea and wants to talk to round one about this,
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you mentioned something about a mentorship program.
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But that early, are you willing or are you going to help them out
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with those things that you mentioned?
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Well, we work with community partners because we're just a platform.
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We're not really supposed to do that.
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But yeah, we work closely with them.
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We participate in talks.
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We've been with SEC on a national roadshow every month.
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Yeah, I see that.
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And you talk about what's the level of interest?
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It varies.
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It really varies.
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Different regions have different needs.
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Like we've seen a much more mature crowd.
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We've seen a more agri-oriented crowd,
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like a more different sectors.
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So we just adjust our discussion as we do it.
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And then we'd have a consultation at the end of the session.
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I remember when I was covering crowdfunding was not yet approved.
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I think this is one of the youngest regulatory hurdles
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that was already addressed by the SEC.
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And so now it's slowly starting to grow.
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What do you think is the future of it after the seed-in problem?
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Which I suppose, how are you affected by that?
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That's where women, you know.
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I think no matter what the rough patches are in the industry,
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in the global economy,
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the demand for what we offer as a service
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will continue to grow with or without us.
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So that's the future that I see.
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So yes, there'll always be bad actors in that sense.
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But those with staying power, we hope,
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can learn from those mistakes, learn from those issues
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and continue to stay stalwart in the way they service customers.
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And openness, transparency.
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I mean, you know, these aren't just buzzwords in the industry as well.
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So I still see growth coming.
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I still see demand happening no matter what.
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I think there is just a more push for regulations as well.
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That usually is what happens when, you know, incidents like this occur.
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The industry tends to come back stronger, right?
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I mean, no matter how bad things get.
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I mean, consider market crashes.
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Consider how regulations have evolved from that.
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And the same is true for many industries as well.
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So that's welcomed because at the end of the day,
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we want investors to trust the institutions that they deal with, right?
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And, you know, you can say that you're doing X, Y, Z in a business,
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but you can't expect everyone to take your word for it.
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So they look to regulators to ensure that there is something
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like a watchdog, that there is someone watching out for them too.
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So investor protections that the government puts in place
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and publicizing them and educating individuals,
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I think will happen.
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It has to happen.
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And at the end of the day, it just builds a stronger industry.
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Oh, I'd like to add.
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So crowdfunding is actually a way to do crowd due diligence
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because it's like putting yourself...
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You're technically a public person.
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You put yourself on a platform and say,
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Hey, I'm fundraising.
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And everyone's there to openly say,
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I don't like your business model or you haven't paid me maybe in the last month.
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Or an ex-girlfriend.
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Or an ex-girlfriend.
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Ex-girlfriends.
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So be careful out there, fundraisers.
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I love that, Brandon.
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I think that was very well said.
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Thank you so much.
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It's been a pleasure to have you here.
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And we're going to watch this space closely.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much.
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That's your Business Outlook at Broncos.
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