SAGUTAN NINA BONG GO AT DSWD SEC. REX GATCHALIAN
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Thank you for watching!
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Madam Chair, ako po'y kadalasan na tumutulong po sa ating mga mahirap nating kababayan.
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Nagbibigay po ako ng aking counterpart mismo dito, personal ko ito.
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Hindi po ito mula sa DSWD, yung mga grocery packs, akin po yan, pagkain, pinapamerienda ko sila, pananghalian, vitamins, mga face masks.
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At gusto ko talagang tulungan sila yung mga naging biktima na sunog, lindol, putok ng bulkan, buhawi, at iba pang disaster.
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At Madam Chair, napag-alaman ko lang po na pinagbabawalan po ng DSWD na banggitin po ang aking pangalan.
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May tanong lang po ako dito sa ating Regional Director.
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To Maria Angela Gupalan.
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Go ka pala ma'am.
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Ating field office.
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May tanong lang po ako sa inyo.
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Unang-una, totoo ba ito na bawal po banggitin ang aking pangalan?
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Pero sa ibang politiko, hindi po bawal?
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You're under oath po.
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You're under oath.
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Akin po as Regional Director, wala naman pong...
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explicit na instruction ng pagbawalan.
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Pero po sa akin, dahil po kami po ay nagbibigay po ng ating programa,
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I think it's best not to mention.
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Otherwise, baka po kasi kami mapag...
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Ma'am, specific po.
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Specific po ang pagbabawal ng pangalan ko.
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Bawal banggitin ang pangalan ko.
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Sa totoo lang po, hindi nyo na kailangan banggitin ang pangalan ko.
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Maging puntay naman kayo.
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Eh kung yung ibang pangalan, pwedeng banggitin.
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Bakit pangalan ko lang hindi pwedeng banggitin?
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Kaya na po, wala po kong naalala na may explicit instruction na parang yung sa inyong lang pong pangalan.
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Sigurado po kayo?
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How about sa Alaminos?
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Wala kayong inutusan sa Alaminos?
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Employado nyo po sa DSWD sa Alaminos?
02:59.3
Wala kayong inutusan doon?
03:01.3
Hindi kayo nag-conduct ng briefing?
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Nabawal banggitin yung pangalan ko?
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Ma'am, hindi nyo kailangan banggitin yung pangalan ko.
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Hindi ko po kailangan.
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Hindi ko po kailangan yan.
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Sabihin nyo lang po sa kanila, tulong po ito mula sa gobyerno.
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Tulong po ito sa mga mahirap.
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Huwag lang po tayong maging selective, ma'am.
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Huwag nyo pong haluan ang politika.
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Sa totoo lang po.
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Sa totoo lang po.
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Ito pa ang pangalawa.
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Bakit bawal akong pumunta?
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Bakit yung ibang politiko hindi bawal pumunta?
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Tanong ko lang, bakit bawal akong pumunta?
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Bakit si Senator Aimee, our chairperson, pwedeng pumunta?
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Pakisagot, you're under oath.
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Hindi niya masagot, Madam Chair.
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Pangatlong tanong ko, pera niyo ba yan?
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Pera ng taong bayan yan, ma'am.
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Hindi niyo po pera yan.
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Just be fair with us.
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Pinaglaban namin ang budget ninyo panahon pa ni dating Pangulong Duterte.
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Alam nyo, during the time of President Duterte, walang pinipili.
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Ang nagdala noon si Secretary Rolly Bautista,
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ang ating sundalo.
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Walang pinipili po yun.
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Hindi naman kailangan banggitin ang pangalan namin.
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Pero huwag niyo naman sanang ipagbawal na banggitin.
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Huwag niyo naman sanang ipagkait.
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Kung meron po akong gustong dalahin sa tulong sa kanila.
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Akin naman yun, ma'am. Personal ko naman yun.
04:46.0
Personal ko po yung grocery pack.
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Personal ko po yung Jollibee.
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Kung gusto kong pakainin, gusto kong pasayahin ang mga kababayan natin
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sa panahon ng kanilang kalungkutan.
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Mapasaya ko man lang sa kanila.
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Eh bakit niyo naman pong ipagkait sa kanila yan?
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Hindi niyo naman po pera yan, ma'am.
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Besides, sarili ko po ito, ma'am.
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Kung pupunta man po ako doon, eh akin po yun.
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Huwag niyo naman sanang ipagbawal.
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Ay ngayon, nandito ang inyong sekretary.
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Pwede naman sigurong sagutin ng ating mahal na sekretary yan.
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Bakit po ganun, sir, naging selective doon tayo?
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At meron lang po ako sa site na isang instance.
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Halimbawa, dito sa isang lugar, Sekretary Rex, sa Mindanao.
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Merong judoan for payout na dapat nang ibigay sa kanila.
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Eh nung pumunta ka, nakahold yun for how many months?
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And then nung pumunta ka, dinoble mo.
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Eh, dinoble mo. Dinagdagan mo, dinoble mo.
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Pwede pala yung ganun.
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Kasi ikaw yung pumunta.
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General Santos City, sir.
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Senator, this was during the earthquake.
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Hindi po. Recently lang po ito.
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Meron pong due for payout na po doon mga indigents, no?
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Maybe biktima po ito ng earthquake o disaster, due na po.
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Sila sa inyo, sir, matagal na po itong validated list na ito for payment na po ito.
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Ngayon, nung pumunta ka, sige, release nyo na.
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Nung pinarelease mo, dinoble mo pa.
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So, ibig sabihin, pag kayo ang pumunta, pwede nyo palang doblehin.
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Pag nagiging selective kayo, Sekretary Rex.
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One more question.
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Hindi ba ito na nagagamit sa politika ninyo?
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Senator, I'm not...
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One question. For the record.
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Are you running for the Senate?
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Senator, I'm not running for the Senate.
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In fact, I even wrote all the public polling for you to remove me from the list.
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I communicated that so many times.
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Okay. So, don't be selective.
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Alam ng publiko yan.
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Nakikikinig ang publiko natin.
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Senator, Madam Chair, if I may respond.
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First of all, wala akong...
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Hindi ako akong pumunta.
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Sa General Santos this past couple of months.
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This year, if I can recall, pumunta ako sa General Santos na nag-earthquake ko sila.
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Well, the last time was...
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Last year. Late last year.
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Yes, late last year. If I'm not mistaken.
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Yun pa nga yung September na mga listahan.
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Yun pa yung September na listahan.
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Ang tagal na, validated list na siya.
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Nagmamakahawa sa inyo from August, July, August, September.
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Hanggang umabot na lang ng...
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Well, kailan kayo pumunta ng...
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Senator, pumunta ko ako dun right after the earthquake twice.
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Kailan nga po yun?
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Kailan ba yung earthquake?
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The earthquake was...
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Remember? Lumapit sa iyo yung mga local officials.
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And then, you ordered them to release the IX.
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Kasi lumapit sa iyo personal, di ba?
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So, kailangan bang lumapit sa iyo personal?
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Let me just qualify.
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Binigay nyo na list sa amin.
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We're vetting it one by one.
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And we've already given you assurance that we will release it.
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All the list that you gave us.
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I don't have any intention of running for the Senate.
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Hindi. Kapatid mo yung kasama ko rito.
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Secretary Rex Gatchalian.
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You check your record.
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Senator, let me...
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General Santos City, meron silang validated list.
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Napangatagal na nilang nag-antay.
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Ilang buwan silang nag-antay.
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Pagdating mo doon, okay.
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So, ibig sabihin...
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Senator, Madam Chair, if I may just clarify, ano ho yung nirelease ko?
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Ang nirelease ko doon, emergency cash transfer.
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That's why the amount is bigger.
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Hindi ho ako nag-release ng IX.
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In fact, the mayors came to me.
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We met there with the governor.
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Emergency cash transfer ho yung doble na sinasabi nyo.
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Hindi ho ako nag-release ng IX.
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It's emergency cash.
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Kaya nga, ang punto ko doon, sir, ilang months na yung nagmamakaawa yung mga beneficiaries.
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So, bakit nyo pahirapan?
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Tatlong libo, apat na buwan, limang buwan, nagmamakaawa.
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Hindi nyo naman pera yun, sir.
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Pera ng taong bayan yan.
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Madam Chair, if I may clarify again.
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First of all, Madam Chair, I'll have Director Wentz explain the details of what we've done with the list.
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Pero, a while ago, may inamin ho ako na...
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Nagkaroon kami ng problema sa sarili naming Financial Management Office.
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That's why we were having cash shortfalls in some of our regions.
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And we have addressed that.
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Aminado kami, there were delays to the commitment to the Senator,
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but we have all intentions of paying those lists that have been vetted and clarified,
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that have been checked already.
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But ako, I put my admission that na-delay yung iba because of what I admitted a while ago.
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We found out that...
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Ito ang aming late submission sa DBM ng aming cash requirements.
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But we assure you that in the second quarter, we will clean that list.
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Sir, four months, five months, nag-antay yung beneficiaries.
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3,000 yung matatanggap nila, pero nag-antay sila ng limang buwan.
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Kailangan pa ba nilang antayin na mag-lingberl sa lugar nila bago nyo i-release?
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O kailangan pa ba nilang pumunta ka doon bago nila i-release?
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Alam mo, to Director Marie Angela...
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Alam nyo ma'am, sa panahon ni dating Pangulong Duterte,
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walang pinipiling pagtulong noon.
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Kung kailangan ng social amelioration program,
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pinapahanap niya, kinokontakt niya ang LGUs,
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dapat walang duplication, walang iiyak na walang mabibigyan.
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Walang pili yan, walang halong politika yan.
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Lalong-lalo na po sa panahon ng pandemia.
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Makakatanggap ng ayuda.
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Walang politika noon.
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Alam ni Sen. Ayme yan.
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Dahil siya po ang chairperson ng social justice noong panahon yun.
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At ma'am, kahit na si Ma'am Ayme, meron po siyang kanyang sariling initiatives or amendments.
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Kung ano po yung kanyang gustong patulungan at ng mga lugar.
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Panahon ni Pangulong Duterte, walang bawal kay Sen. Marcos.
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Lahat po'y pantay-pantay.
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Walang bawal kay Sen. Joel Villanueva.
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Walang bawal kay Sen. Anggara.
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Walang bawal kahit kay Sen. Juntiberos noong panahon yun.
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Binibigay po sa kanila dahil tulong po ito sa mga mahirap nating kababayan.
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Alam po yan ni Sen. Ayme.
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Even during the last few months ng administration ni Pangulong Duterte,
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lahat ng nirequest ni Sen. Ayme Marcos,
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nirelease po ng administration ni Pangulong Duterte.
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Kasi tulong yun sa mga mahirap.
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Secrex, huwag niyong gamitin tong opisina niya sa politika kung may plano ka pa sa politika.
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Madam Chair, categorically, I am not using the office for my politics.
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And I categorically state that I am not running for any position this coming election.
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Kailangang election?
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This election, I am not running for any public office this coming election.
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But I'm not running for this coming election.
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It's the first time in 18 years.
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In 18 years. Madam Chair, I'll just direct you to Director Wentz so that he can put forward on the record the payout list.
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Sen. Bango, Madam Chair, as of the moment, as for discussion during the April 2 meeting with you, with your staff,
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we already provided the live file so that the office po ni Senator Borque can access po.
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Even po doon sa updates ng payout.
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Saka yung mga scheduled payout for the second quarter.
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Kasi we discussed already na we committed to do the payouts as much of the listahan and we did the second quarter.
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But from the April 2 meeting po natin and eventually after the list date, we were able to settle na po almost 22 payouts for the record po comprising po the 12.7% increase.
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And we still have to discuss po with your team po to discuss some of the listahan pa na kailangan po po natin i-toubleshoot kasi may mga mismatch pa po doon, Secretary.
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And then, Madam Chair po.
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Sen. Secretary Rex Gatchalian, you were Mayor din na Secretary Rex.
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Noong panahon na mo as Mayor ng Valenzuela, hindi naging selective ang DSWD sa panahon yun.
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Kung anong kailangan mong tulong sa iyong bayan, sa iyong syudad sa Valenzuela, what is due sa inyo binibigay talaga?
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Walang, hindi ka tulad niya?
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August, Abril na ngayon, magmamakaawa yung Pilipino sa tulong na 3,000.
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AX nga yan, di ba? Assistance in Crisis at Situation?
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Peran niyo ba yan?
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Yusek, peran niyo ba yan?
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Secretary, peran niyo yan?
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Madam Chair, we don't treat it as our money.
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We know it's people's money.
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That's why we're...
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Bakit may napatagal?
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Mr. Chair, Madam Chair, if you can recall, in the August yung list...
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Because of politics!
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Because of politics.
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Hindi naman ako kalaban ninyo, ah.
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Huwag niyo damay yung mga may hirap.
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Alam ni Sen. Ayme yan, ah.
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Panahon ni Sen. Ayme, siya yung chairperson.
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Lahat ng ni-request ni Sen. Ayme...
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During the time of President Duterte, pinagbigyan, binigay, lahat.
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Ni isang araw, walang delay.
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Anong sinabi ni Sen. Ayme noon, even during the last few months of President Duterte's administration?
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Check your records.
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You may check your records.
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Ano siya dyan yan, eh?
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Tulong sa Maynila.
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Ni isang araw, ni isang linggo, walang delays.
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Kasi tulong sa mga may hirap.
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Panahon ng pandemia, yung SAP.
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Kaya halos hindi nga kami matulog noon, eh.
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Para mabigay lang sa lahat, yung tulong na social amelioration program ng gobyerno.
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Dahil pera ng tao yan, ibalik sa tao yan.
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Para sa mga may hirap yan.
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Balik niyo sa kanila.
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Please, Secretary Rex Gatchel, yan.
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Senator, we have no intentions of withholding.
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In fact, last year, if you look at our disbursement rate and our obligation rate na gamit,
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I assure you that we will make sure, Madam Chair, that...
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Ang nangyayari ngayon, sasabihin niyo, walang pera.
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Sa lahat na nakikinig na DSW Regional Director,
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yun naman bang uniform answer niyo, di ba?
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Hindi pa na-release.
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May cash na bukas.
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Kaya, papainapan niyo yung Pilipino.
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Nasunogan na nga, back to zero.
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Hindi walang pambaon.
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Walang pambili ng damit.
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Papainapan niyo pa.
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Kasi walang cash ang DSW Regional Director.
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Pag meron kayong gustong i-pay out,
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Ano nga yung kasabihan?
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That is your motto.
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Ang problema natin ngayon,
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i-institutionalize natin
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At paano natin to institutionalize?
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Para ba sa mga may hirap?
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O para sa gusto ninyong
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para sa politiko?
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yan ang dapat nating sagutin?
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Ang nag-aantay na sagot ang taong bayan?
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naawa ako sa mga may hirap.
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May hirap lang ha?
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huwag naman pong ganon.
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Kaya tayo narito para isabatas ito,
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institutionalize ito.
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Pero kaysa sabatas lang natin ito,
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hindi yung mga may hirap ang mga sinabang.
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Bawa yung Pilipino.
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Kaya hindi tayo umuasin so.
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Merong mga programa
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na mapabilis ang servisyo.
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Hindi ko naman sa pinagmamalaki.
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Andyan yung malasakit center.
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Basta Pilipino ka, qualified ka.
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Pumila ka lang doon.
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Tuturuan ka ng social worker.
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Pagpatuloy nyo lang yung mga programa ng mga katulong.
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Huwag niyong pigilan.
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Huwag niyong sirain.
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Huwag niyong pahirapan ng Pilipino.
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Pera po ng taong bayan yan.
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Sa Pilipino po yan.
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Yun lang po, Madam Chair.
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Paki-update na lang po, Sir,
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sa mga nagmamakaawa sa inyo.
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Yung mga listahan ninyong sinasabi na
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just submit the list of qualified beneficiaries.
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Pinapasubmit nyo naman.
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Pero baka maubos pa yung pamasahe nila.
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Sa kabalik sa inyong opisina.
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Baka lugi pa sila sa 3,000 tatanggapin nila sa kabalik.
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Kawawang Pilipino.
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Halika na kasama ka.
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Kapag buklot ay may pag-asa.
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Tusong Visayas, Mindanao, isang pananaw.
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Sa bagong Pilipinas ang bunyog isisigaw.
