02:34.5
So, I had a conversation with him also to,
02:37.7
you know, to thank him for the great things he's doing
02:40.6
and also saying na,
02:42.0
siguro down the road,
02:42.8
we're hoping to have more collaborations,
02:45.1
Medyo ilustrado for the 21st century
02:47.9
ang vibe sana, di ba?
02:49.1
Who knows, di ba?
02:50.7
Sabi ko na sana kung bumalik rin si Lelo
02:54.4
baka makipag-meet kami lahat.
02:57.3
in addition to that,
02:59.7
meron din tayong conversation with si Gretchen Ho
03:02.0
because we're hoping to collaborate also
03:04.6
on some things that have to do with West Philippines,
03:07.3
And I'm hoping to also get her
03:08.5
on some of our podcasts and discussion
03:11.7
to have her siguro dun sa
03:14.5
some group discussions natin
03:16.8
para may perspective din ng kababahian
03:18.8
at saka someone who has a strong sports background
03:22.0
and a kind of a woman leader also
03:24.1
in addition to West Philippines issue.
03:27.6
nung kakatapos lang natin from
03:29.2
interview natin with Seth Trillianas,
03:32.1
biglang inaayos ko yung Waze, di ba?
03:34.8
Para check ko where to drive next.
03:37.7
Ayan, biglang may sabi,
03:40.8
Yung pala si Ronald Diamas.
03:43.4
Sabi ko, eto na talaga, eto na talaga.
03:45.3
Ronald Diamas talaga.
03:47.4
Talagang loading, loading.
03:48.8
Kasi may program din sila sa One News dyan
03:52.3
together with bossing Patrick Paya.
03:54.9
So, please check that out also.
03:56.4
So, kapatid din yan si Ronald Diamas.
03:59.4
Of course, original yan
04:00.9
kasi sa walk po yan.
04:02.7
And then, of course,
04:04.4
the penultimate meeting
04:06.2
kaapon rin was with Tito Boy Abunda.
04:12.5
hindi Tito Boy Soto.
04:14.0
Magdiri sa mga Tito Boy na
04:15.9
nag Tito Boy Soto.
04:17.9
So, it was very nice to catch up with Tito Boy.
04:21.3
Shout out kay Tito Boy.
04:22.6
Shout out kay Apples.
04:29.8
Literally, original na kapamilya.
04:31.7
Kasi, as you know naman,
04:33.0
before ako nangyay resident analyst sa GMA Network
04:35.2
and now, of course,
04:37.1
kind of semi-resident analyst
04:41.7
My first, my first,
04:46.5
kind of a regular
04:51.9
and ANC in particular.
04:53.4
So, in many ways,
04:54.8
it was kind of like a homecoming.
04:56.9
It was a kind of catching up with old friends, old producers.
05:02.4
So, medyo natouch ako.
05:03.9
Medyo naging sentimental ako.
05:05.1
And, of course, thank you so much again to Tito Boy
05:07.6
and my original kapamilya family for that invitation
05:11.6
to have a very, very nice conversation.
05:15.0
kala ko nga sabi ni Tito Boy,
05:17.0
baka meron siyang showbiz career sa atin.
05:20.5
Mukhang bilip pa rin siya sa political na nalang.
05:24.6
Ang analysis natin at saka, ano,
05:26.6
ano, media career natin.
05:29.6
So, yun na lang. Sige.
05:32.6
So, it was crazy busy day.
05:34.6
So, pasensya naman.
05:35.6
I couldn't do a proper live kaapon.
05:38.6
But, as yun na naman,
05:39.6
tuloy-tuloy itong mga publications natin
05:41.6
kahit di tayo nag-live
05:43.6
because ang dami natin mga contents.
05:45.6
And, alam ko iba sa atin,
05:47.6
baka tinatamat kayo mag-
05:49.6
to go through an hour, two hours of discussion.
05:52.6
So, while I'm in traffic,
05:55.6
you know, if I'm not driving, obviously,
05:57.6
while I'm in transits,
05:59.6
naghanap ako ng mga, ano,
06:01.6
naghanap ako ng mga highlights, no?
06:03.6
And, yun na nilagay natin.
06:05.6
So, sinan ko rin yung mga highlights ng mga interviews natin
06:07.6
with Senator Filianes,
06:09.6
particular his views on opposition.
06:11.6
Is there a crisis of opposition?
06:13.6
Or is this an opportunity for opposition?
06:15.6
Please check that out.
06:16.6
Also, mga kamets,
06:19.6
kanina na yung na-upload ko rin yung mga latest interview natin
06:21.6
with Dr. Cabalza,
06:24.6
a very brave patriot,
06:26.6
and may prayers with him and his families
06:29.6
kasi medyo na-threatened siya
06:31.6
dahil dun sa binubuking niya na
06:34.6
potential Chinese infiltration sa Cagayan, no?
06:37.6
So, I'm also putting some of the highlights there.
06:43.6
Ayan, pagod na tayo.
06:45.6
Pagpagod tayo, ganyan tayo.
06:46.6
But, see how much I care for you guys.
06:48.6
Kahit pagod na pagod tayo, go pa rin tayo.
06:50.6
Sabi ko, hindi naman pwede na back-to-back na two nights
06:53.6
na wala tayong live at all.
06:56.6
we're hoping to have R&R soon.
06:59.6
Nag-reply na ba si Sir Ronald?
07:03.6
I'm also arranging,
07:05.6
and this will be a segue for our discussion today,
07:08.6
kasi dalawang bagay na gusto kong pag-usapan.
07:10.6
Una-una, itong pinasa na
07:13.6
90 billion dollar defense package ng United States,
07:17.6
tens of billions going to Ukraine,
07:20.6
And then, there's a multi-billion dollar package
07:23.6
for the Indo-Pacific region.
07:25.6
Significant parts gonna go to Taiwan.
07:30.6
the good news is,
07:31.6
there's a part also for the Philippines.
07:33.6
Obviously, habang nasa transit tayo,
07:35.6
habang nasa airport tayo kanina,
07:39.6
nakipag-away tayo.
07:40.6
As usual, no, no, no,
07:42.6
because eto na naman tayo.
07:43.6
Eto naman tayo, guys eh.
07:45.6
Habang sobrang hindi ako nag-agree
07:47.6
dun sa mga makapilik lang,
07:48.6
ayoko rin dun sa mga kapabayan natin
07:50.6
na sobrang patay na patay sa Amerika,
07:52.6
as if naman, diba?
07:53.6
As if naman, diba?
07:54.6
So, pag-usapan din natin yung sa Amerika,
07:56.6
very, very quickly, ha?
07:58.6
Actually, hindi very quickly.
08:00.6
So, I was actually hoping to also arrange
08:02.6
a soon interview with Elbridge Colby.
08:07.6
Medyo mukhang Kennedy eto eh.
08:10.6
And this guy could be the next
08:12.6
U.S. Secretary of State
08:14.6
or something very, very high.
08:16.6
Something like that.
08:17.6
Very high level official.
08:19.6
If ever managalo yung kabila
08:21.6
sa November elections.
08:23.6
At etong tao na to,
08:25.6
you know, has served at very, very high level
08:28.6
in government and all.
08:30.6
So, mataling yung taon to.
08:32.6
Obviously, may mga disagreements ako
08:34.6
with the mga Americans.
08:35.6
At pwede nyo check rin yung may ibang interviews natin
08:38.6
in the past, including One News.
08:40.6
But I hope to have him also here
08:42.6
because if there's one thing I agree with the Republicans,
08:46.6
particularly some of these Republicans
08:48.6
who could be in a very, very influential position,
08:54.6
it should be China first strategy.
08:58.6
Obviously, America first para kay Trump.
09:00.6
This time, gusto natin Philippines first
09:02.6
sa foreign policy natin.
09:03.6
But what I mean is,
09:04.6
the focus of America's competitive streak, no?
09:09.6
Pagdating sa kanyang defense obligations,
09:11.6
pagdating sa kanyang strategic positioning,
09:14.6
dapat China ang tinitignan niya.
09:15.6
Because there's no country on Earth, right,
09:18.6
that has the strength, the resolve, the resources,
09:23.6
and the momentum that China has.
09:25.6
Russia, yes, they have a lot of nuclear weapons
09:29.6
But we know that those nuclear weapons
09:30.6
are really for doomsday discussion.
09:32.6
And nakita natin, Ukraine,
09:34.6
bugbog ang Russia sa kanila.
09:36.6
They lost 300,000 people in casualties nila.
09:38.6
Casualties and deaths.
09:40.6
So, obviously, dahil paya si Putin,
09:42.6
go lang siya ng go.
09:43.6
But nakita natin yung all-out war,
09:45.6
all-out invasion siya sa Ukraine,
09:48.6
And now, you know, Russia is bleeding.
09:52.6
And Russia is trying to hold on to what it captured,
09:54.6
whether it's Crimea and some of the eastern regions
09:56.6
in Ukraine, ang Ukraine.
09:59.6
And of course, the reason why Ukraine,
10:01.6
nahihirapan siya because it's one thing for you
10:03.6
to defeat a full-scale invasion.
10:04.6
It's another thing to retrieve territories
10:06.6
that have been more or less colonized by Russia
10:09.6
Pero mahabang usapan niyan.
10:12.6
Now, my thing is,
10:15.6
we have to have a proper conversation
10:18.6
about a set of things including
10:20.6
ano ba talaga ang gusto natin mangyari dito
10:23.6
pagdating sa ating relationship with the U.S.
10:25.6
The other thing I want to also discuss is,
10:26.6
etong guys, may update na tayo.
10:28.6
So, as of kanina lang, 9pm,
10:33.6
Governor Mamba of Cagayan
10:36.6
has been disqualified from office
10:39.6
or from running for office.
10:41.6
So, pag-usapan natin yan.
10:42.6
Of course, two days ago,
10:43.6
there was already a Supreme Court ruling on this issue.
10:45.6
But now, it's official na.
10:47.6
And of course, the relevance of this
10:49.6
is not only because pinag-usapan natin nga Cagayan
10:52.6
kaapon, the other day, at kanina,
10:55.6
ni lot of fears of infiltration of Chinese spies,
11:00.6
Let me be very clear.
11:01.6
Ako, I'm very sensitive sa mga ganitong issue
11:04.6
ng spy-spies na yan
11:06.6
because let's be honest,
11:08.6
meron tayong prejudice.
11:11.6
things could get out of control.
11:12.6
So, let's be very careful
11:13.6
when we say spy and spy.
11:15.6
So, nai-hurt ako kasi may mga kaibigan akong Chino.
11:18.6
As in, hindi lang Chinoy.
11:21.6
At mabait na mga taong to.
11:23.6
Kilala ko yung mga friends tong mga to.
11:25.6
At, you know, yung parang joke sa akin nila,
11:27.6
uy, spy kayo, or gano'n.
11:29.6
Nai-hurt din sila.
11:30.6
Nai-hurt din sila.
11:31.6
Marami naman mga Chinese, hindi lang Chinoy,
11:34.6
na nandito sa Pilipinas for different reasons.
11:36.6
For love, for education,
11:38.6
you know, for work, etc.,
11:40.6
na walang kinalaman sa politika, etc.
11:43.6
So, I also want to tell this to my Chinese friends
11:46.6
and my Chinoy friends.
11:47.6
I mean, well, Chinoys are compatriots.
11:49.6
Si mga sapan niya.
11:53.6
Now, I also don't like this kind of prejudicial discussions.
11:58.6
I also have Russian friends.
12:00.6
And, you know, some of my, you know,
12:03.6
I remember some Russian friends joking,
12:05.6
oh, don't worry, I'm not KGB or something.
12:07.6
You know, like, it's a joke, it's a dark joke,
12:09.6
but I know what they mean, diba?
12:11.6
So, unfortunately,
12:12.6
meron kasi tayong tendency na
12:14.6
pag certain countries,
12:16.6
meron tayong mga stereotypes and all.
12:18.6
Masakit yan, masakit yan.
12:19.6
And I can go on and on and on.
12:21.6
I mean, people from the Middle East, obviously,
12:23.6
marami din tayong mga kaibigan, etc.
12:25.6
Now, they also complain about other forms of prejudice.
12:27.6
They face not only the West,
12:29.6
but also in places like the Philippines.
12:31.6
So, para sa akin,
12:32.6
dapat sobrang ingat tayo, guys,
12:33.6
pagdating dito sa generalizations.
12:35.6
And we have to really curb our,
12:37.6
our negative tendencies,
12:40.6
particularly ng stereotyping, etc.
12:41.6
But having said that,
12:43.6
oh, eto na, eto na,
12:44.6
eto na yung hinihintay niyo.
12:46.6
Siyempre, katulad ng sinabi ni
12:48.6
Sen. Cynthia Villar,
12:52.6
Hindi ko naman gawin.
12:56.6
Diba? Hindi naman tayo bababa, diba?
12:58.6
Kailangan din natin check,
13:00.6
because as much as you have to guard against
13:02.6
prejudice, racism, stereotypes,
13:05.6
we also have to guard against
13:07.6
potentially real and present danger
13:09.6
to our national security.
13:12.6
Ayan, may mga kameta tayo
13:14.6
nag-join from Sydney, Australia.
13:16.6
Speaking of Australia,
13:17.6
Australia, for a very long time,
13:19.6
had very good relationship with China.
13:22.6
But over time, talagang may evidence na
13:25.6
nag-infiltrate ang Chinese government
13:27.6
ng Communist Party
13:28.6
at kinukoop nila yung mga politicians.
13:31.6
Most notoriously, si Sam Dastyari,
13:34.6
who was this rising star senator
13:38.6
from minority background,
13:41.6
muna ito sa mga ibang-ibig МУ ale
14:06.6
Mabuhay si Dastyari Iti
14:09.6
the arbitration case.
14:11.7
So I remember very well
14:12.6
because I used to be in Australia
14:13.4
a lot from 2011 to 2019, right?
14:17.5
So I constantly went back and forth
14:19.3
and I saw the evolution of Australia
14:22.9
and eventually Australia by 2017, 2018
14:25.3
went very strong on this
14:26.8
and very strong on cracking down
14:29.1
on infiltration of China
14:32.6
in terms of their critical infrastructure.
14:34.5
So Binani like Huawei
14:35.7
from entering their critical infrastructure,
14:37.4
they cracked down on a number of politicians
14:40.3
or certain channels of influence operations.
14:45.2
So ang Australia po ay napakagandang bansa.
14:47.1
Ang Australia po ay very democratic country
14:48.7
and at the same time,
14:50.2
hindi rin sila bobo.
14:51.7
Diba? Sabi ng mga Australia,
14:53.7
Siyempre gusto natin ng trade and all of that
14:55.4
pero ayaw rin natin na mukhang tayo,
14:57.2
mukhang syunga, diba?
14:58.6
So initially of course,
14:59.8
nainis ang China,
15:01.0
nag-threaten, threaten,
15:03.5
Nawapak rin yung threats ng China.
15:06.1
Tuloy-tuloy pa rin yung trade nila.
15:07.4
In fact, yung trade nila
15:08.1
nag-expand over the years
15:09.4
despite all the threats by China.
15:12.1
Now, the other country
15:13.4
of course I'm familiar with
15:14.8
and I used to be based there
15:16.6
as a visiting scholar
15:18.7
and Taiwan is another fantastic country.
15:20.9
It's a fascinating country.
15:22.0
Of course, it's a Chinese majority country
15:23.9
in terms of ethnicity
15:25.9
these are Chinese folks
15:26.7
who identify themselves
15:27.9
as Taiwanese majority-wise
15:29.5
and more and more over time
15:30.9
but Taiwan also has tried to put
15:32.4
national security consideration
15:34.0
next to its civil liberties in the box.
15:35.8
So you go to Taiwan,
15:36.6
it's a robust, vibrant democracy
15:38.9
doing fantastically well
15:40.2
but at the same time,
15:41.4
they have all sorts of different
15:42.5
legislations and laws
15:43.8
para siguraduin, guys,
15:46.6
na walang kalukuan,
15:47.9
para siguraduin na walang infiltration,
15:50.4
Because alam na alam nila sa Taiwan
15:51.9
na talagang may mga bayaran dyan
15:55.2
Including isang presidential candidate
15:57.8
kaya medyo may malatatay
16:00.3
di kong din silang presidential candidate dati
16:02.2
na biglang lumaki yung following,
16:04.7
biglang lakas na sa social media
16:06.2
nung ni-research nila,
16:07.7
na-detect nila na based in mainland,
16:10.0
marami sa mga followers niya
16:11.8
So very suspicious yung circumstances.
16:14.9
looking at these countries,
16:17.4
sa Pilipinas talaga, guys,
16:19.6
dapat hindi tayo susunga-sunga.
16:22.1
We have to be very, very smart
16:24.0
but at the same time, guys,
16:26.2
we should not allow na yung fundamental
16:28.5
characters of our democracy
16:32.4
Mahalaga talaga yan, guys.
16:33.5
We have to protect the fundamental character
16:37.2
and I think that balance
16:38.3
is very much achievable.
16:39.9
So wag tayo magpaututo
16:41.1
dun sa mga makapili.
16:43.4
ito yung nakakatuwa, di ba?
16:46.5
yung mga makapili na yan.
16:49.6
Ito yung mga pro-Digong.
16:51.2
Ito yung gusto maging authoritarian tayo.
16:53.3
Ito yung mga pro-China na
16:55.0
totalitarian system.
16:57.0
freedom of expression,
17:01.2
Of course, I am for freedom of expression
17:02.6
and civil liberties.
17:03.2
And I fought for freedom of expression
17:04.9
and civil liberties.
17:05.6
Noong panahon ng Digong
17:06.9
or anyone who tries to threaten it, right?
17:08.6
I stand for those things.
17:09.9
But it's so hypocritical.
17:11.4
Actually, it's not hypocritical.
17:13.1
Talagang user-friendly
17:14.7
itong mga walang iyang makapili na yan.
17:16.3
Gagamitin nila ngayon
17:17.1
yung democracy issues
17:18.1
para lang tuloy-tuloy
17:20.0
yung kanilang ligaya
17:20.9
pagdating sa mga bayaran
17:22.1
na propaganda nila, di ba?
17:24.1
Now, going back to this,
17:27.0
So two things very, very quickly
17:28.6
pag-usapan natin.
17:31.9
pinasa na emergency fund
17:37.4
galing sa United States.
17:40.6
Sorry, tinatanggal ko lang itong mga videos
17:42.6
mga makapili-makapili na yan.
17:48.3
Ito lang na puno ito.
17:52.3
Ito lang na mga video ni
17:58.1
Ang dami na galit sa akin kanina
17:59.4
kasi nag-post ako.
18:01.3
medyo sanayin ako
18:02.0
na maraming galit.
18:03.2
May napost kasi tayo guys.
18:14.1
si Sarah Duterte.
18:15.6
Dami, it was just a general question, guys.
18:17.8
General question lang naman, eh.
18:19.8
General questions lang na
18:21.3
how do you compare
18:22.5
Sarah Duterte and Lenny?
18:24.3
Kasi birthday ni ma'am Lenny
18:26.0
tas nag-greet ako.
18:26.7
Tas parang naisip ko,
18:30.7
Parang how dare you compare?
18:32.4
Parang silang babae.
18:33.4
Parang silang naging vice president.
18:35.6
I'm just saying, di ba?
18:36.7
Lalo yung mga DDS dahil
18:37.8
ang dami hanash kay Lenny.
18:39.7
O, kamusta naman yung
18:40.5
anonyo, bida niyo ngayon.
18:43.2
nung nagche-check research ako,
18:44.4
nakita ko tong picture na ito.
18:49.1
I didn't know that
18:50.0
meron pala ganitong
18:51.1
chummy chums na meeting
18:58.8
once upon a time,
19:00.6
ganyan ang dynamics
19:05.8
liberal party si Lenny dyan,
19:12.7
picture ni Digong
19:18.3
This is, I think,
19:20.7
At alam naman natin
19:28.0
very strong supporters
19:30.2
Corazon Aquino, no?
19:31.6
At the reason why
19:32.5
Digong eventually
19:33.5
managed to become
19:40.7
anti-Marcos dictatorship.
19:47.0
dating prosecutor,
19:48.4
to become, I think,
19:49.6
transitional interim
19:51.8
or something like that.
19:52.5
And that essentially
19:56.1
So, Digong always talks about
19:58.1
relationship with the Marcoses
19:59.8
kasi junior cabinet member
20:02.8
in the first Marcos.
20:05.6
I'm talking about
20:07.2
first administration
20:08.1
before he seconded
20:11.3
people forget that
20:12.2
Digong and the Dutertes
20:14.4
to Corazon Aquino
20:20.0
Kaya nakita ko yung mga
20:21.6
yung mga ganyan-ganyan
20:23.1
I mean, that's based on
20:25.9
What I didn't know, though,
20:28.3
anong yung dynamics,
20:31.4
Because my understanding
20:32.7
would be in 2016,
20:35.4
totally anti-Dilaw,
20:38.8
anti-establishment,
20:46.5
And that positioning
20:49.2
as early as 2015,
20:54.2
Now, interestingly,
20:55.8
between Sara Duterte
21:00.4
between Sara Duterte
21:01.2
and Lenny, actually,
21:02.4
if you look at it,
21:09.2
naka-replace na yata
21:12.9
this is December.
21:16.0
Christmas na yan,
21:18.3
So, by this time,
21:20.4
tapos na yung replacement.
21:21.4
So, Digong is already
21:24.1
there were some people
21:24.9
who were saying that,
21:25.6
actually, behind the scenes,
21:26.9
dapat Digong and Lenny
21:27.9
shouldn't have an issue
21:29.9
because both of them
21:32.5
positionist anti-
21:33.7
establishment candidates.
21:35.6
I think both of them won
21:36.7
because they were seen
21:41.6
Lenny was never part
21:42.6
of the establishment
21:43.4
of Liberal Party.
21:48.2
Digong in position
21:52.8
but what I didn't know
21:58.4
And, honestly, guys,
22:04.5
yung transformation
22:06.4
And I don't mean it
22:07.4
in a physical sense
22:08.8
or anything like that.
22:10.7
but the whole thing,
22:15.1
the way she talks,
22:16.4
look at how warm she is
22:17.8
pag nag-uusap sila
22:20.9
You could see naman,
22:22.8
they're very comfortable
22:27.6
it's weird, right?
22:29.2
Who would have thought, guys?
22:30.5
Who would have thought
22:35.9
would become vice presidents
22:38.4
totally different versions
22:40.0
of woman leadership
22:41.6
in the Philippines.
22:44.8
mapapaisip ka talaga eh.
22:46.7
yeah, yeah, I know, guys.
22:50.4
there are no permanent friends,
22:52.1
only permanent trapos.
22:54.6
May bago naman akong kinota.
22:56.5
In the Philippines,
22:57.3
there are no permanent friends,
22:58.7
nor permanent enemies,
23:00.3
only permanent trapos.
23:05.6
and this is where you see,
23:06.7
kung isa kang progressive leader,
23:13.4
progressive leader,
23:14.8
katulad ni Lenny Robredo,
23:16.6
imagine all of the dynasties
23:18.4
you have to deal with.
23:23.0
this looks like a genuinely,
23:27.1
nagpapakit lang sila Lenny
23:29.0
I think they really had
23:30.0
a nice conversation.
23:31.6
I think they really had
23:33.7
You could see the vice,
23:35.1
you could see the mutual respect,
23:36.9
you could see how Sara
23:37.7
is very respectful of Lenny,
23:40.9
very differential,
23:46.8
Matapang na pa ba?
23:48.5
alam naman natin lahat na
23:49.5
sumasapak yung isa,
23:52.0
At sinong yung piskal ba yun,
23:53.1
gano'n, gano'n, gano'n,
23:56.0
but you could see that
23:56.8
there was this kind of
24:03.7
provinciana kind of vibes.
24:05.4
you could see that, guys.
24:06.5
You could see that, guys.
24:09.5
who would have thought,
24:14.9
from that kind of
24:19.3
to becoming the face
24:20.6
of the total opposition,
24:25.9
together with BBM
24:27.0
and then try to pin down
24:28.8
the liberal progressive
24:33.4
Crazy when you think about it.
24:38.2
who would have thought
24:39.2
Sara would be our
24:40.8
vice president one day
24:42.3
and Sara would be seen
24:51.7
to be the next president.
24:53.0
that's no longer the case
24:53.8
because Rafi Tulfo
24:54.7
is leading now in the service.
24:57.0
it's just fascinating
24:58.1
how Easter returns
25:03.2
the twists and turns
25:08.8
if you ask anyone
25:10.8
would you have thought
25:12.1
that Sara Duterte
25:13.8
presidential candidate
25:16.7
Sara could have become
25:18.1
if she had she run
25:22.4
would have withdrawn
25:24.5
Mahaba kong usapan niyan.
25:27.4
napapaisip ako dyan.
25:33.2
weather-weather lang yan.
25:35.3
weather-weather lang yan,
25:37.9
may development na rin tayo.
25:39.9
hindi na matuwa yung mga
25:48.2
yung first openly
25:50.2
governor of the Philippines,
25:52.4
si Governor Mamba.
25:54.6
let me be absolutely clear about this.
25:56.4
I have nothing against
26:00.7
better relationship
26:01.2
with other countries
26:03.6
na Hindi-Western.
26:05.8
I completely support us
26:08.9
beyond the United States.
26:10.4
I completely support us
26:13.7
economic relationship
26:14.8
with our neighbors.
26:15.7
And I think China
26:16.3
has a lot of good things
26:18.3
The high-speed railway
26:19.1
they built in Laos.
26:20.6
I'm now in Indochina.
26:22.0
So, in this region,
26:25.7
Thailand has a very good
26:26.8
relationship with China.
26:27.9
They have a lot of projects
26:30.5
ang problema kasi
26:32.3
sa mga makapili na yan,
26:34.1
ginigeneralize tayo
26:37.4
Actually, I'm completely
26:38.4
okay with good relationship
26:42.0
China respects us.
26:43.9
hindi tayo binubuli.
26:44.9
Provided, hindi kailang
26:45.6
claiming sovereign
26:50.4
hindi siya nagkaklaim
26:51.6
ng exclusive economic zone
26:52.8
natin, for that matter.
26:53.8
At the expense of our
26:54.7
sovereign rights and all.
27:03.3
Pakamahal na tayo dyan.
27:09.1
bakit na punta dito?
27:13.2
So, it's official
27:22.1
ay medyo, ano na,
27:24.2
medyo alanganin na
27:25.3
yung position niya
27:26.8
there was a petition
27:28.7
disqualifying before
27:31.5
the Supreme Court
27:34.8
of that petition.
27:35.6
So, the Commission Elections
27:43.3
So, ibig sabihin,
27:44.4
hindi na siya maging
27:47.5
I think he has to step down
27:51.1
probably that would
27:56.9
Let's talk about this.
28:06.6
complaint petition
28:08.1
Lord Victoria Kasuay,
28:10.0
Comelec First Division
28:10.9
Presiding Commissioner
28:13.6
and Commissioners
28:24.7
The commissioners
28:25.3
also declared that
28:26.1
the law of succession
28:28.0
and the vice governor
28:29.2
shall automatically
28:32.1
Yung nga sinasabi ko
28:33.3
yung vice governor
28:36.4
has yet to comment
28:39.1
dito sa latest developments.
28:41.1
Yung commissioners
28:42.4
yung Comelec Law Department
28:43.8
para mag-initiate
28:45.6
preliminary investigation
28:52.8
breaching election laws
28:56.1
despite the latest
29:00.7
will be immediately
29:02.1
Commission of Elections
29:04.2
disqualification.
29:08.7
appealed to Cagayan
29:21.6
quite some drama.
29:24.0
ng back and forth
29:27.3
The ratings are going
29:34.3
ayan magkakagulo na yan.
29:36.1
how things are gonna go.
29:44.0
a sitting governor
29:44.7
can be disqualified
29:45.7
based on vote buying
29:49.6
there's no vote buying
29:50.4
in the Philippines.
29:51.1
I think all of us
29:55.9
what's the reality
29:56.9
of the Philippines
30:03.2
why of all governors
30:08.2
or facing potential
30:14.8
Bakit ito yung natanggal?
30:16.0
Bakit ito yung umabot
30:19.9
it's already happening
30:24.6
or mga anti-Makapili
30:26.2
are already celebrating this
30:31.4
on pro-China elements
30:33.7
or Makapili elements
30:35.7
And Governor Mamba
30:37.5
the tip of the iceberg.
30:40.2
on the other side
30:43.0
who are not necessarily
30:44.3
but they're saying
30:46.7
ng McCarthyism dito
30:49.4
na malapit sa China
30:50.5
except kung pangalan mo
30:52.8
because ang ating
30:53.8
minamahal na Pangulo
30:55.5
I mean di man chami
30:58.5
our great president
30:59.6
is still insisting
31:01.0
kahit nag-i-incitement
31:02.8
and gulo yung matanda
31:14.3
get out of control
31:17.2
collateral damage
31:18.8
because as I said
31:27.6
sa Tokyo ko na ko
31:29.6
okay yung mga tabi-tabi
31:31.4
mukhang ano lang yan
31:34.4
tabi-tabi sa Tokyo lang yan
31:42.2
nung kausap natin
31:43.2
si Justice McCarthy
31:44.8
but is siya may mga times
31:45.9
na alanganin din siya
31:50.4
kasi pwede ma-weaponize yan
31:52.5
nakita natin guys
31:55.5
inabuso ng ibang tao
31:59.6
journalists and all
32:01.2
heroic journalists
32:05.0
and folks in Rappler
32:06.5
now I'm not saying
32:07.1
walang mali sa media
32:08.1
and I think we have to
32:09.6
case-to-case basis
32:10.4
and unfortunate kasi
32:11.4
meron tayong tendency na
32:12.5
inaabuso ng mga tao
32:14.2
especially mga politiko
32:15.5
mga people with vested interest
32:18.0
may na-weaponize sila
32:19.0
and that's exactly why
32:20.5
yung counter-terrorism
32:22.0
very sensitive tayo
32:23.3
but it's also very possible
32:28.4
that this is the beginning
32:34.8
anong plano ni Mamba
32:35.7
he wants to stick around forever
32:39.2
medyo magkakaroon ng
32:41.2
speaking of which
32:41.8
actually I'm gonna text
32:42.5
some people na may alam
32:49.4
magmamaritest na ako
32:50.8
kasi may mga contacts
32:57.7
magmamaritest ako
32:59.6
sa pasensya na guys
33:00.6
kasi kailangan ko
33:01.4
kasi alam naman medyo
33:02.8
all over the place ako
33:03.9
pag di ko ginawa yan
33:04.9
mamaya yung iniisip ko
33:08.1
anong mga latest maritas
33:11.8
anong yung latest
33:15.9
mga maritas mo na
33:25.1
I won't be surprised
33:29.3
I won't be surprised
33:29.6
what we might see
33:38.6
sa West Philippine Sea
33:40.7
dun sa mga no comment
33:41.7
at least yung mga no comment
33:42.7
wala silang problema
33:43.7
dahil no comment nga
33:48.4
medyo nagpaparinig
33:51.4
gusto magsalita yung iba
34:09.3
I'm on the email list
34:16.1
four different camps
34:19.5
nakita niyo naman eh
34:20.8
ako fair naman ako eh
34:21.9
I criticize all sites
34:23.1
kaya for some reason
34:27.3
email list and all
34:28.1
so nakikita ko rin
34:28.9
yung mga email list
34:29.6
yung mga makapiliyan
34:30.7
at saka mga pinagagawa nila
34:32.0
they're talking about
34:33.4
freedom of expression
34:37.8
I will defend your right
34:38.9
to express yourself
34:45.2
to push for the interest
34:48.4
who's bullying our people
34:50.5
so I'll disagree with you
34:51.8
I'm not against your right
34:53.2
to express your opinion
34:54.3
but I'm against you
35:00.0
our national interest
35:01.1
and territorial integrity
35:02.5
at saka yung isa pang
35:04.1
dun sa mga ibang makapiliyan
35:07.4
hindi ko pinapangalanan
35:08.9
itag ba natin guys
35:10.7
kailangan ba natin itag
35:11.9
o alam nyo na yung mga yan
35:14.0
hindi ko pinapangalanan
35:21.2
nakakainis din yung mga
35:22.9
yung mga syunga na
35:24.8
yung mga iba dyan
35:28.5
and this is gonna bring me
35:29.6
to my second topic
35:30.5
yung mga nagsabi na
35:37.8
so speaking of the United States
35:39.6
let's talk about this
35:40.5
kasi my contention guys
35:47.0
the United States
35:49.2
had taken the Philippines
35:53.6
for a very long time
35:55.5
series of intervention
35:56.9
and it was endorsed
35:59.2
someone who could be
36:01.4
one of the top officials
36:02.8
should the other side
36:03.7
win in the next election
36:04.5
and this was the person
36:05.2
who was also very top official
36:07.4
but yung mga kano
36:08.5
na very senior policy makers
36:12.6
kung nanalo yung kabila
36:13.9
they are also openly endorsing
36:16.7
what I've been saying guys
36:19.6
ipopost ko mga maya
36:20.5
para makita yung dito
36:25.0
nandito siya kakainina
36:26.3
magaling na bata yan
36:28.5
please follow him
36:29.4
although medyo may pagka
36:31.3
right wing tong misyado
36:33.3
pero hayan mo nga
36:37.3
mahal niya yung bayan natin
36:44.6
so habang nasa transit ako
36:46.5
the US Senate just passed
36:48.2
95 billion dollars
36:49.8
in aid to Ukraine
36:50.9
and in the Pacific Allies
36:52.6
eto yung vote was
36:54.5
tatlong hindi bumoto
36:56.3
baka siguro mga Bernie Sanders
36:59.2
18 ang hindi bumoto
37:06.4
bulk ng pera na yan
37:08.6
ay pupunta sa Ukraine
37:10.5
etong dalawang allies
37:13.4
although technically
37:18.9
beating back Russia
37:23.0
dahil ang bilis eh
37:33.6
4 billion dollars
37:35.5
were appropriated
37:36.3
for foreign military
37:38.2
sa Indo-Pacific Allies
37:39.3
and the Philippines
37:40.5
is one of the leading ones
37:43.7
we are set to get
37:45.1
around 500 million dollars
37:46.7
in foreign military financing
37:48.6
that could be around
37:54.9
and they were like
37:55.6
claiming credit for this
37:56.8
because of their meeting
37:58.3
congressional leaders
38:07.3
or Speaker of the House
38:08.4
very astute people
38:10.0
very articulate people
38:10.9
I think they said
38:12.8
during their meetings
38:15.8
my contention here is
38:17.9
we shouldn't get ahead
38:21.6
I mean first of all
38:22.5
what's happening here guys
38:25.7
ang United States
38:28.0
waking up to the reality
38:29.6
na kailangan tulungan
38:36.4
isang congressman
38:38.5
nagpalit sa naisip
38:39.6
this has been going
38:40.3
for quite some time
38:42.2
I know what I'm talking about
38:43.2
because I've been consistently
38:44.3
going back and forth
38:45.2
to Washington D.C.
38:46.2
for the past 10 years
38:47.7
for speaking engagements
38:49.1
in all of their major
38:51.5
I know what's going on
38:52.8
behind the scenes
38:53.7
of course there are a lot of things
38:54.6
that I've been told
38:56.2
not to mention of course
38:57.1
our own discussions
38:58.5
with Philippine ambassadors
38:59.7
particularly Ambassador Ramaldes
39:04.0
including on the record
39:05.3
including here on their show
39:06.6
throughout the year
39:09.5
I've been going back and forth
39:11.0
for the past 10 years
39:11.9
and I'm kind of keeping up
39:14.4
my contention here
39:15.4
and this is not anything
39:16.8
or anything like that
39:22.7
500 million dollars
39:24.6
but ang point ko is
39:26.3
Philippines is being
39:29.1
largest naval power
39:31.1
now we can have a conversation
39:32.6
if China has the quality
39:35.9
Comrade Stalin said
39:37.9
sige retag niyo ako
39:39.0
quantity brings quality
39:41.7
when the communists
39:42.5
defeated the Nazis
39:44.3
Operation Barbarossa
39:45.6
when you have so many
39:46.9
vessels and ships
39:49.0
qualitative edge also
39:50.1
not to mention China
39:51.2
do not underestimate China
39:55.1
sa highway sa Bangkok
40:04.0
a Japanese manufacturing
40:09.0
to build their motorbikes
40:11.0
so a lot is going on
40:14.0
sumisigat din ang China
40:16.0
underestimate China's
40:17.0
also qualitative improvement
40:19.0
especially as they
40:20.0
get more and more
40:24.0
different cutting edge
40:25.0
technologies that could
40:27.0
military modernization
40:27.5
now speaking of which
40:33.5
aliado na Amerika
40:36.5
with the superpower
40:38.5
yung iba naman may threats
40:43.5
they have problems
40:47.5
I understand that
40:50.5
pero tignan mo naman
40:53.5
yung mga ganyang bansa
40:55.5
they got way more defense aid
40:56.5
so I'm gonna post
40:57.5
a link sa baba guys
40:59.5
some of the US allies
41:02.5
billion dollars in aid
41:03.5
Ukraine also over the
41:05.5
is what approaching
41:07.5
four hundred fifty billion
41:12.5
only got one billion
41:15.5
it's not just the aid eh
41:25.5
kasi mahal yung mga
41:26.5
F-16 fighters ng US
41:27.5
mahal yung mga weapon systems sila
41:29.5
but we know that they offer
41:30.5
those weapon systems
41:31.5
as part of grants or aid
41:32.5
to all sorts of different countries
41:38.5
these kinds of countries
41:39.5
have more advanced
41:41.5
fighter jets and weapon systems
41:42.5
than the Philippines
41:47.5
na may kakulangan naman tayo
41:51.5
is as much a cause
41:58.5
we didn't get the
41:59.5
advanced weapon systems
42:00.5
that Pinoy was hoping for
42:01.5
you don't believe me
42:08.5
eto na naman yung mga Vietnam era
42:10.5
at yun yung exactly
42:13.5
ginamit ni Digong
42:14.5
to say oh are you with us
42:15.5
at tingnan naman yung mga Amerikani
42:16.5
tinanong naman tayo sa
42:18.5
pangayon ibang reef
42:22.5
I know what happened there
42:23.5
because among other odd people
42:26.5
there was a talk in Harvard
42:27.5
and I was one of the speakers
42:28.5
and one of the speakers
42:30.5
the very famous professor
42:35.5
administration position
42:36.5
when the US decided
42:39.5
yung nakuha yung pangayon
42:40.5
ng ibang reef sa atin
42:41.5
so if you don't believe me
42:42.5
go and talk to Joseph Nye
42:43.5
or get his point of view
42:44.5
and proud na proud po sila
42:45.5
na hindi sila tumulog sa atin
42:46.5
yung mga iba dyan
42:47.5
parang wala tayong ano dyan
42:50.5
umalis yung basis nila
42:53.5
but that's not a reason
42:54.5
for you to abandon us
42:56.5
nagpadala sila ng
42:57.5
two aircraft carriers
43:01.5
third Taiwan strait crisis
43:02.5
Taiwan is not even a treaty ally
43:05.5
they did that for Taiwan
43:06.5
tayo na steel treaty ally
43:09.5
hindi tayo tinulungan
43:10.5
Scarborough Shoal
43:11.5
o tanay nyo si Trillanes
43:13.5
has a slightly different take
43:16.5
including people in DC
43:18.5
because feeling nila
43:19.5
si Obama hindi tumulog sa atin
43:20.5
particularly si Kurt Campbell
43:26.5
so I can go on and on about this
43:28.5
I can go on and on about this
43:29.5
kaya nga in fairness both
43:30.5
Biden at saka yung
43:31.5
Trump administration
43:34.5
mutual defense treaty
43:35.5
klarong-klaro sila
43:37.5
and public sila about it
43:39.5
very very limited
43:42.5
mga dating American administration
43:44.5
don't come and tell me na
43:46.5
eh magpasalamat tayo
43:48.5
I'm glad that we went
43:51.5
but let's not forget
43:52.5
that other countries
43:53.5
are getting 200 billion dollars
43:57.5
those are exceptional places
43:58.5
what about Jordan
43:59.5
what about Pakistan
44:03.5
I mean these guys
44:12.5
masyado kasi tayong
44:15.5
yung ibang Amerikano
44:16.5
na masyadong patronizing
44:17.5
sabi nyo sa Amerikano
44:19.5
kayo sinusugot ng
44:21.5
katulad ng ginawa sa
44:26.5
Ukraine already defeated
44:27.5
Russia's invasion
44:29.5
almost 2 years ago
44:30.5
the issue right now
44:32.5
is not a Russian invasion
44:33.5
it's a Russian occupation
44:34.5
especially of the area
44:35.5
that they occupied
44:41.5
territorial retrieval
44:42.5
issue we're talking about
44:43.5
kaya the dynamics
44:44.5
are totally different
44:47.5
yun na naman sa mga
44:48.5
syunga na hindi nakakaintindi eh
44:51.5
nahihirapan ng Ukraine ngayon
44:53.5
Ukraine is on the offensive
44:55.5
is on the defensive
44:58.5
in scorched earth
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kind of a world war 1
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they throw people at it
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ang tawag nila doon
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kaya 300,000 lost
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they're keep on saying
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magiging Ukraine tayo
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I need to control myself
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ganun kadali ng Russia
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ng hanak siya sa buhay
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wala naman tutulong dyan
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mahina naman ang Ukraine
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that's the context
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Baltic states like
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mga malilit na bansa na yan
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guess bakit hindi sila
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because they have
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a collective security
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mutual defense treaty
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collective security agreement
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bakit sa tingin nyo
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na napaka independent minded
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very much throughout the years
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sumali sa NATO recently
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so yung mga suma nagsabi
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maging katulad ng Ukraine
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bobo yung argument na yan
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Ukraine was actually
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not a member of NATO
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wala siyang mutual defense treaty
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or collective security kind of benefits
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that a NATO membership gives
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or an alliance with the US
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or any super royal like that
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actually Ukraine is an interesting case
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because they beat the heck
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out of the invading forces
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up to 300,000 casualties in Russia
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Ukraine is a land
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has a land border with Russia
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kaya ito was much easier for Russia
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while Philippines
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is a totally different picture
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kaya nga hindi para nila
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yung invade ng Taiwan
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kasi alam nyo na po
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actually Ukraine is a horrible example
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for this makapili
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pa kayong mga yan eh
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they think na wala tayong alam
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so they're just gonna go there
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tatakutin tayong gano'n
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I'll tell you what
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he created a climate of fear
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to create a kind of
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semi-dictatorship
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postmodern dictatorship
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dahil walang disiplina
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patulad ni Marcos Sr.
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subversion of democracy
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he had that quasi dictatorship
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para hindi natin siya i-check
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Why? Because China is not stupid. China is very smart country compared to Russia at least, compared to Putin at least. No offense. I always tell that to my Chinese friends. Xi Jinping is not Putin. Am I saying there will not be war? No, I'm not saying there will not be war. Of course, there's always risk. But I believe that, I sincerely believe that the Chinese have a far more sophisticated advanced political system than Russia. Russia is just a one-man team and that man is not really in his prime anymore.
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So, let's be very clear about that. And yes, let's be honest, between Tatay Digong and Zelensky, sinong duwag?
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Ay, sorry ha, sorry. Sorry ha. Si Zelensky yung lumalaban, si Zelensky yung tumakas, alright?
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I was in the Munich secret conference in 2022 when Zelensky gave a speech. Back then, we thought just who was the clown.
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And we know that actually, US and other countries told him,
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wag ka na bumalik sa Ukraine, baka susugod ang Russia.
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Actually, sabi nila, susugod ang Russia, dali ka, patay ka.
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But he went back and then he completely transformed into this fighter.
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So, I'm sorry. Between Tatay Digong and Zelensky, sinong mati nung mag-isip?
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By the way, pareha silang abogado. Zelensky was also trained as a lawyer.
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I think he not only has a better humor than Digong, but he has a lot of more, alam nyo na yan.
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Okay, connect the dots.
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Now, going back to this, ang point ko naman sa US is, okay, it's good.
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Kaso, kasi nakita ko, nag-respond din yung ibang American friends natin.
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And funny, yung mga Republicans agree sila, pero yung mga Democrats na kaibigan ko yung nag-react.
49:57.6
Now, this is a big deal, first time nangyari.
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Okay, but Philippines is starting from a very low base, okay?
50:05.3
We're even behind the Jordans and Pakistans.
50:09.4
The reason I didn't use Egypt that much is because, of course, I understand the dynamics of the 1979.
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The dynamics of the...
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The dynamics of the...
50:17.2
The dynamics of the...
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The 1979 peace deal.
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Believe me, I know all of the history.
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I know what I've written.
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Hindi duwag si Zelensky.
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Patriotic si Zelensky.
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Mas matinong itsura niya.
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Mas magaling siyang lawyer or maayos sa tignan.
50:36.5
For six years, you used politics of fear so that people will agree dun sa bara-bara catastrophic war on drugs.
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Ngayon naman, gusto nyo gamitin yung politics of fear para mag-surrender tayo.
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Now, the good news, guys, is mukhang tama yung sinabi ko.
50:51.3
All you need to do is stand your ground, build your strategic capital,
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and now with this major balikatang exercise that's happening in US and France and often coming in,
51:03.0
it's not proxy war that is happening, mga makapili friends.
51:06.6
Medyo napaisip ang China.
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Na-realize nalang that the more they bully us, they push us,
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the more we can ask for help, the more na mag-counter-encircle ang China.
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Kasi ang gusto ng China, so-so.
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Sino naman, diba?
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So, kung ganyan kalaki yung katapat mo nag-bubuli sa'yo,
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gusto mo solo ka lang to deal with naman one-on-one?
51:30.0
You want to get friends and allies so that you have leverage, right?
51:33.6
And as far as US is concerned, they're not looking for war.
51:36.9
Because they already had a lot of war on their hands.
51:39.5
From the Middle East to Europe.
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So, this is about game of deterrence, mga ka-meta.
51:46.2
Game of deterrence.
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And I think we're doing so far so good.
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So, huwag tayo magpa-bully dito sa mga makapili na yan.
51:53.6
And, okay, dun sa mga ano-ano, ano,
51:58.0
pag-post natin ulit yung picture natin,
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We got the guns, just in case.
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oh, kung matapang ka, punta ka sa well.
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We are already risking our lives fighting against the government all these six years.
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And we're already putting a lot on the line
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by putting a lot of money on the line.
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By pushing back against all of these, mga ano.
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So, please, don't question our courage and all.
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Kung duwag kayo or syunga kayo,
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alright, don't project it on others who are doing the right thing.
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And as I said, this is war agad.
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Anong klaseng pag-iisip yan?
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Utak-pulbura ba kayo?
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Between peace and war,
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between total harmony and war,
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hundred other things could happen, guys.
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wag yung war agad, war agad.
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Because the moment you say that,
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tinatakot nyo lang kami
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or wala kayong alam
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or worst, baka bayaran lang kayo.
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thank you very much, mga kameta.
52:53.9
Please, wag kayong makinig dun sa mga syunga na yan.
52:57.9
let's be neutral in our...
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Let's be neutral.
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Yung away na sa sarili natin,
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bakuran, mag-neutral tayo.
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I mean, anong kasyungan yan, diba?
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I'm sorry to say it,
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It's just beyond preposterous, right?
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It's just beyond preposterous.
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Mag-neutral daw tayo sa West Philippine Sea.
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Abang tayo mismo ang binubuli.
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Ne, neutral lang tayo.
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Hindi, okay lang.
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Diretso lang kayo.
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Ayaw namin ang gulo.
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Wag tayo umingin ng tulong.
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Magpaano tayo sa China.
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Pasolo natin sa sarili natin sa China.
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Tatay Digong style.
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magpakabait tayo.
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Darating ang investments.
53:53.5
Six years na nga natin doon si Digong.
53:55.5
Anong nakuha niya sa China?
53:58.5
Anong nangyayari sa Mindanao Railway Project?
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Kinokontrol ko lang sarili ko.
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Let's stop on that.
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Magpahinga na ako.
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Medyo may mga talks pa tayo.
