00:19.4
Good morning, ma'am.
00:20.4
Good morning, ma'am.
00:21.2
Good morning, Sir Alvin, ma'am Doris, at sa lahat sa mga nasisinig at nanonood.
00:25.1
Mukhang galikado ako sa interview na ito. Mahirap ang mga tanong.
00:27.8
Hindi naman po. Mukhang hindi na po umuubra yung mga papuri namin.
00:34.2
Nasaan? Nasa Manila ka ba, ma'am? O nasa Davao?
00:38.1
Nasa Region 5 po.
00:40.0
Ah, Bicol. Region 5. Anong meron sa Bicol, ma'am? Anong meron sa Region 5?
00:46.1
Financial Management Review and then meron ho kami meeting with the different regional offices, sir.
00:53.6
Yan ang Commissioner ko, partner. Ganyan ka PCA.
00:57.4
Ganyan ka PCA sa Bicol.
00:58.7
So, hindi pwede ang Manggo Charlotte. Ma'am Laing na lang.
01:04.1
Loko lang, ma'am.
01:05.8
Hindi, natawag kami, ma'am. Ano ba ang pwedeng gawin natin sa ating mga kawaninong gobyerno para din ma...
01:12.4
Kasi ang mga estudyante, pinuprotektahan kako natin.
01:14.9
Dahil sa extreme heat. I think sa Bicol, maano din yun?
01:19.3
Yung kamarines, di ba?
01:22.7
Ano bang pwedeng gawin?
01:24.9
Kasi may naulinigan kami.
01:26.3
Baka i-recommenda daw yung reduced work hours ng mga taong gobyerno.
01:32.4
Pwede ba yun under our laws?
01:35.9
Okay. Under our... under batas po natin, we are required to put in 40 hours of work in a week.
01:43.2
So, kaya nilalagay nung 8 hours a day.
01:46.1
Di ba? So, parang 5 times 8, 40.
01:48.5
And when you say, babawasan ang number of hours, that's per day.
01:52.6
So, siguro ang sinasabi nila is maybe the compressed work week.
01:56.3
Which is only one of the options ng ating flexi-work arrangement.
02:01.4
So, pwede. Pwede yun.
02:04.4
Which is only one. But do you think that...
02:07.7
To the question, yes, it is one of the options.
02:10.6
Pero ibig sabihin po nito, magiging 10 hours ang empleyado sa opisina.
02:16.3
But there is also another option.
02:18.5
As you do compressed work week, pwede ang X number of hours in the office and X number of hours from a satellite office.
02:26.3
Or from your home.
02:28.0
But kailangan pong tandaan nung mga heads of agencies, when you choose compressed work week,
02:34.3
hindi po ibig sabihin na there is one day na walang tao sa inyong opisina.
02:40.3
Hindi po. Kailangan po may tao pa rin sa ating offices.
02:44.1
Because Monday to Friday, kailangan pong manda ang ating offices.
02:47.5
Hindi natin sasabihin na Monday to Thursday lang ang gobyerno, Friday wala na.
02:52.9
Or Tuesday to Friday, Monday wala na. Hindi po.
02:56.3
We need that the days to be filled with may tao po para humarap sa mga transacting public, sir.
03:05.6
Ibig sabihin, attorney, parang yung iba, Monday to Thursday yung duty nila.
03:09.7
Yung iba naman, Tuesday to Friday.
03:11.5
But there is no instance na may isang araw na walang tao sa opisina ninyo.
03:16.4
So ano ba yan? Do you think it is warranted these days because of too much hot weather?
03:25.1
Or they can actually do it?
03:26.3
Even without asking permission from the Civil Service Commission?
03:30.6
Tama ho. Kasi kaya nga nilabas namin ito noong 2022 pa.
03:34.2
Kasi these are options na pwede kunin ng heads of agencies.
03:37.6
Kaya so, kung merong heat or let's say the heat wave or kung may disasters or calamities,
03:43.4
meron na silang kumbaga sa restaurant.
03:45.1
Meron kayong menu or menu na pagpipilian.
03:47.6
Anong option ang pwede sa inyo?
03:49.3
But if you say na isa lang ang ating i-recommend,
03:54.1
I think that that should be left to the heads of the different agencies
03:58.5
because mas alam nila ang mandato nila.
04:01.0
Example, GSWD, most of the, anytime pwede ho mag-strike ang calamity, di ba?
04:07.1
So Monday, walang pinipiling days, di ba po?
04:09.7
But if nataon on a Friday, and then sabihin nila na skeleton workforce ang Friday nila,
04:16.2
so mahihirapan to be flexible.
04:21.3
So, believe it or not, there are several.
04:23.9
There are several options.
04:24.7
Merong compressed work week, merong flex standard shifting hours,
04:30.8
merong work from satellite office, merong skeleton force, merong work from home.
04:35.8
So, these are other combinations na pwede hong ilagay.
04:39.3
So, sabihin natin, sige, frontline services, iso ang sa inyo kasi kailangan nandyan talaga kayo, di ba?
04:44.8
So, regular kayong let's say 8 to 5 nandyan
04:48.4
because the core working hours of government is between 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
04:52.4
Dapat nandun sa may tao talaga.
04:53.9
So, hindi pwedeng papasok kayo ng 10 a.m. tapos walang 8 to 10.
04:59.2
Wala masyadong tao doon.
05:01.2
So, we say, i-remind lang, 8 to 5, these are the core working hours of government.
05:07.2
Number two, yun doon sa mga heads of agencies, alam nila kasi, like let's say,
05:12.3
the department heads of other government agencies.
05:16.1
So, sasabihin namin, sige, ang research and development namin, sila ang pwedeng mag-flexi time.
05:20.1
Pwede silang pumasok ng 10 a.m. hanggang 6 p.m.
05:23.9
So, para hindi sila, para ma-avoid nila yung traffic.
05:27.2
So, if ever kasi, tinan nyo, MMDA looks at it sa lens nila ng traffic.
05:33.3
DOE example, looks at it sa lens nila on saving energy.
05:36.9
Correct. Actually, sorry, buti-buti na banggit mo yan.
05:39.9
Paano kung ang objective is to save on energy?
05:43.5
Dahil nga delika din din po yung supply natin.
05:45.9
Nakailang red at yellow alerts na po tayo.
05:47.8
Paano pag sinabi, halimbawa, ng DOE,
05:50.7
kumenta namin na mag-limited working hours,
05:53.9
hours na lang tayo to save on energy
05:56.3
kasi naging air-con kayo dyan,
05:58.0
nag-go-computer yung taong gobyerno, malaking account.
06:00.8
Pwede bang justification yun only for a limited time?
06:05.4
So, yun na ho ang pwede natin pag-usapan
06:07.8
because there is no one formula for all government agencies.
06:11.5
Kami nga naka-CSC, it took us two years to come up with a text-to-word arrangement.
06:15.2
And we cannot say that the compressed work week is good for everyone.
06:19.3
We cannot say that kasi let them choose ano ang pwede
06:23.9
Ang target natin, babaan natin yung consumption ng energy.
06:27.1
So, how do we do that?
06:28.9
This department will enter this time.
06:32.0
And then, we will shut off all air-con.
06:34.3
Let's say by 5 or 5.30, out na kayo.
06:36.8
Uy-uy na kayo, huwag na kayo mag-overtime.
06:39.2
Wala na ito in the meantime, no overtime.
06:41.6
So, marami hong measures na pwede ipag-pag-isipan or i-consider.
06:48.4
Nakakatakot yung report ni Alvin kahapon na talagang super nipis na.
06:52.3
Muntik na tayong...
06:55.2
So, ayaw natin yung mangyari.
06:57.7
Kaya ang tanong ko, hindi po ba kaya pwede na kahit isang araw,
07:03.9
sa isang linggo, talagang shut down yung mga agencies.
07:08.9
Pero hindi naman ito permanente.
07:11.2
Isang buwan lang.
07:12.6
O, itawid lang natin itong crisis natin.
07:14.4
Para lang may savings na kasi malakas kumonsumo.
07:17.3
Kaya lang, sabi niya batay sa batas, hindi daw po pwede na may isang araw na wala.
07:21.4
Pero pwede ba may exception yun, ma'am?
07:23.8
Ano lang, isang buwan lang.
07:25.2
Just to save on energy.
07:27.2
If that is the intention, then I suggest whoever is the process owner or the lead agency,
07:34.1
maganda ho siguro we sit down, we sit down with the...
07:37.1
Mag-uusap ho tayo with the SC
07:39.3
para we can see how we can help in this situation
07:44.3
like what MMDN tried to do.
07:47.6
They called us for a meeting.
07:48.9
Umupo rin ko, umupo kami with them.
07:50.6
Kasi marami kasi, ano,
07:55.1
Those who are with comorbidities or those who do not require frontline services,
07:59.8
work from home kayong lahat.
08:02.5
Let's say, work or work, work.
08:04.0
Kasi if you say, no work kayo on a Friday,
08:09.4
so meron ho tayong on the legal side of it,
08:12.0
ano, considered paid na kayo.
08:13.9
Or sabihin mo na sa four days na yan na mag-compress to work quick tayo,
08:17.6
sige, gawin natin 10 hours kayo.
08:19.7
So, meaning to say,
08:22.0
how many hours na dapat off yung airfoil nung Friday,
08:24.9
baka nakuha lang din nung Monday to Thursday
08:26.7
kasi kailangan 10 hours sila sa opisina.
08:29.6
But there is a combination also,
08:31.5
if we say na compressed work quick tayo,
08:33.4
a combination of, sige,
08:35.3
gaya nga yung sinasabi ko kanina, Sir Avin, kanina,
08:37.8
X number of hours in the office,
08:39.3
like let's say 7 or 6 hours,
08:41.0
and then 4 hours sa bahay,
08:42.3
parang you start your day at this time,
08:45.1
and then someone starts at the office ganitong time.
08:47.2
Kasi kung is 10 hours mo,
08:48.7
nabawi lang din yung one day na wala sila sa opisina.
08:52.0
Kaya sinasabi namin, ma'am,
08:52.9
parang extraordinary circumstance kasi ito.
08:55.6
Baka pwedeng gano'n na wala talagang,
08:57.7
may isang araw talaga na hindi gagamit
08:59.8
ng kuryente ang gobyerno.
09:02.2
Kung pwedeng gano'n.
09:03.4
So, pag-uusapan, pwedeng pag-uusapan.
09:06.3
Pwedeng pag-uusapan kasi.
09:07.5
And the other side of the coin is,
09:11.2
okay, this is for the NRG.
09:13.6
What about the transacting public?
09:15.8
Kung let's say yun ang day off niya,
09:17.4
yun ang time niya na pwede makatransact,
09:19.0
so mag-aabiso siya,
09:22.0
the agency, sa other, sa mother unit niya,
09:24.6
So, everybody will be adjusting dito
09:26.4
kung ganyan yung proposal nila.
09:29.6
Pwede naman natin pag-uusapan.
09:31.4
what about the transacting public?
09:34.3
Kaya naman yung ibinabandera naman ni Lizada,
09:39.0
Kaya yun ang punto niya.
09:39.9
Kaya nga, kung uupuan nyo po ito,
09:42.0
idediskusyon ninyo,
09:43.2
dapat kasama yung mga manggagawa,
09:46.3
yung mga employer,
09:47.9
o braba sa kanila.
09:52.0
Hanggang na mag-agree tayo,
09:53.1
na may araw tayo,
09:54.0
na wala muna kami,
09:56.6
inuna na po tayo, ma'am,
09:58.3
ni Mother Nature,
09:59.5
galit na galit na po siya,
10:00.9
init-init ang ulo.
10:02.8
May init ba dyan?
10:05.2
pag sinasabi natin,
10:06.7
Wala tayo sa opisina,
10:08.3
pero nagtatrabaho tayo,
10:14.0
kung kailangan ng face-to-face transaction,
10:16.6
Kung wala ka, diba?
10:18.3
Yun ang punto mo,
10:19.3
na kailangan mayroon pa rin.
10:21.4
habang may tao sa opisina,
10:24.6
gagamit at gagamit siya ng kuryente.
10:30.0
the frontline services lang ang present.
10:33.3
gagamit pa rin ang kuryente.
10:37.8
that will only be
10:38.6
a certain percentage
10:40.4
of the whole youth,
10:42.1
of the whole department,
10:43.6
ng usage ng aircon po.
10:49.3
pwede kaya na magsimula na lang tayong
10:52.9
ng alauna ng madaling araw, Ma'am?
11:00.3
Sanay si Ma'am pa yung hinamon mo.
11:03.1
sanay sa trabaho yan.
11:05.7
Yan ang trabaho talaga.
11:08.8
Oo, akala ko mahilig.
11:10.2
Mahilig manood ng K-drama.
11:12.0
Ay malay mo naman.
11:13.0
Mahilig ka ba sa K-drama, Ma'am Aileen?
11:15.7
Hindi, nandun ako sa
11:16.8
Can't Buy Me Love.
11:18.4
Ah, teleserye pala.
11:20.0
But after office hours, partner,
11:22.2
pagtrabaho-trabaho si Madam.
11:24.1
Correct, correct.
11:24.6
Ma'am, thank you ha.
11:25.3
Maraming salamat sa inputs po ninyo.
11:27.1
Thank you, thank you,
11:27.9
thank you very much.
11:28.6
Mag-ingat kayo dyan sa Bicol, Ma'am ha.
11:30.6
Balita ko, masarap yung laing dyan.
11:34.4
Kailangan purbahan natin.
11:38.6
Thank you, Ma'am.
11:40.0
Maraming salamat siya, sir.
11:41.6
Aileen Lourdes Lizada,
11:44.8
ang Commissioner po
11:45.6
ng Civil Service Commission.
11:47.5
Tama ka, partner.
11:49.9
i-involve na rin yung
11:55.8
wala mo ng government.
11:57.6
Parang gano'n, di ba?
11:58.4
Pansamantala lang.
12:00.6
Para may matipid lang tayo.
12:02.5
Tapos, kung ang worry
12:05.8
ay yung mga transactions
12:07.2
sa government offices,
12:08.8
kung mayroon po tayong tamo.
12:10.3
Si Atty. Arnel Dulenda.
12:12.1
Atty. Arnel, good morning po.
12:13.4
Good morning, sir.
12:14.5
Good morning, Alvin.
12:16.5
Good morning, Doris.
12:17.3
Good morning sa inyong mga
12:19.9
Maganda po ba yung suggestion
12:21.5
na mag-4-day work week na rin
12:24.6
yung pribadong sektor?
12:26.3
Kasi po, may problema tayo
12:27.8
sa energy supply.
12:29.3
At the same time,
12:30.0
nuklukan po talaga ng init.
12:32.1
Perhaps, may suggestion ng TUCP
12:34.0
to protect the workers
12:35.1
and to save on energy use.
12:39.3
Actually, matagal nang pinag-usapan niyang
12:41.6
compressed work week, Alvin, Doris.
12:45.3
Ano lang namin dyan,
12:46.4
wala namang problema
12:47.5
sa compressed work.
12:51.5
ng mga manggagawa.
12:54.1
ang posisyon namin dyan
12:55.4
is bayaran ng tama
12:56.6
ang mga manggagawa.
13:00.8
pag tinaas mo kasi,
13:04.6
lagpas sa walong uras.
13:08.7
May isang araw naman siyang
13:10.4
Di ba parang pareho lang?
13:11.3
Parang bawi lang.
13:15.6
8-hour loan natin,
13:17.3
itinakda yun dahil
13:19.0
yun talaga ang kapasidad
13:20.2
ng katawa ng tao.
13:21.6
Para magtrabaho ng tama,
13:25.1
apektado ang kanyang kalusugan.
13:27.2
Ngayon, kung ihahaba natin
13:28.5
yung Alvin, Doris,
13:30.0
sa panahon na sobrang init,
13:33.4
mangyayari sa mga tao natin?
13:36.9
isinabatas siyang
13:38.5
8-hour loan natin,
13:39.7
hindi pa ganito kainit.
13:41.5
At ang pagtasa nila,
13:44.5
ang productivity talaga
13:46.7
na hindi masyadong
13:47.3
apektado ang kanilang
13:50.0
Kung iaakyat natin
13:52.7
dagdag ng 2 uras,
13:57.5
noon sa kalusugan niya?
13:58.9
Yung pahinga niya
14:08.3
Ang posisyon ninyo,
14:10.1
kung dadagdagan nyo
14:13.0
yung mga manggagawa.
14:14.2
Ganun lang kasimple.
14:19.9
Na pag lumagpas ka
14:23.1
Hindi pwedeng pag-usapan,
14:25.3
extraordinary circumstance
14:27.1
dahil nuknukan nga
14:28.6
Hindi pa pwedeng pakiusapan.
14:29.0
Hindi pa pwedeng pakiusapan
14:33.8
kanya-kanyang kumpanya,
14:35.0
kanya-kanyang pakiusap
14:37.1
Kasi pwede naman yun.
14:38.7
mga collective bargaining
14:41.7
ang ano lang dyan,
14:43.1
dapat kasi hindi tayo
14:47.0
Kasi may batas eh.
14:49.2
Tsaka bugado yan si attorney.
14:51.1
Pero anong suggestion nyo?
14:53.7
anong suggestion nyo?
14:56.1
the thing I mentioned,
14:58.2
anong suggestion ninyo
15:01.6
sa maintinding init
15:03.6
and to save on energy costs?
15:07.4
sa maintinding init
15:09.5
talagang wala tayong
15:11.9
natural phenomenon yan.
15:17.0
sabi kong paano yan
15:20.4
Pero yung sa pag-save
15:23.5
kung energy saving
15:33.5
Ang ipinahinga mo
15:38.0
ng dalawang oras.
15:39.2
ang consumption kasi
15:40.4
ang tinitignan namin,
15:45.3
oras ang itinabaho,
15:46.8
Hindi nagbawas ng oras
15:48.0
kasi ang energy consumption
15:49.6
depends on the number
15:51.0
of hours na itinabaho
15:54.1
at bukas ang kumpanya.
15:55.5
So, pariho din naman
15:56.4
ang energy doon eh.
16:00.7
Kailangan kakamintin natin.
16:03.0
Kaya kailangan talagang
16:03.9
pag-uusapan, ano?
16:05.7
Kailangan talaga.
16:06.9
Pinag-uusapan na yan.
16:08.9
may challenge tayo
16:13.6
kasi may batas eh
16:16.6
pati yung Department of Labor
16:19.6
dapat yan ang mag-uusap
16:25.9
may ikutan yung batas.
16:30.0
So, hindi uubra po yung
16:33.7
kasi si Atty. Romy Macpartner
16:37.0
ang tagal ko ng suggestion
16:38.1
yung four-day work week na yan
16:39.6
panahon pa ni PGMA
16:40.5
suggestion ko na yan
16:41.4
sabi ni Atty. Romy Macpartner.
16:42.6
Hindi po ma-uubra
16:44.0
na walong oras na lang
16:45.7
yung mga manggagawa
16:47.4
tapos may isang araw
16:50.4
hindi na siya abot doon
16:51.7
sa 40-hour work week
16:53.4
only for this time
16:55.4
dahil nukluka ng init.
16:58.0
O bawal pa rin sa batas?
17:00.3
Hindi na ano yun.
17:02.2
Palagay ko pwedeng
17:04.4
bawat kumpanya na.
17:05.5
Kasi nga nga ano dyan
17:09.2
yung kumpanya-kumpanya na
17:11.6
kausapin ng mga manggagawa
17:13.5
kung ano ang pwede
17:15.7
magawa ng bawat isa
17:17.9
kasi dapat mutual yan
17:19.4
na walang violation sa batas
17:21.8
kailangan pag-aralan
17:22.8
through the help of
17:23.6
the Department of Labor
17:26.1
kasi ang ano nga natin dyan
17:27.9
may sinusundan tayong batas
17:30.1
na hindi naman pwede nating
17:31.1
basta nalang kalimutan.
17:33.8
Kailangan may pag-uusap
17:35.7
sa Department of Labor
17:36.8
through the guidance
17:37.6
of the Secretary of Labor
17:40.3
Kung paano natin yan gagawin.
17:42.8
Ano po suggestion ng TUCP?
17:44.5
Ano ways and means?
17:45.2
Ano ways and means?
17:45.3
Ano ways and means?
17:45.4
Ano ways and means?
17:45.4
Ano ways and means?
17:45.5
Ano ways and means?
17:45.7
To help the workers.
17:47.5
Meron ba kayo suggestion?
17:51.0
ang unang pagdapat gawin dyan
17:55.9
may tri-partite body
17:56.9
kayo sa Department of Labor.
17:59.5
Siguro pag-usapan nila
18:03.4
masusolusyonan itong
18:05.5
at saka yung gusto naman
18:07.4
compressed workway
18:08.7
para makasave ng energy.
18:11.2
Kung talagang yun nga
18:12.1
ang purpose doon,
18:12.9
makasave ng energy.
18:14.5
Kasi ang antingin ko,
18:17.7
dipindi sa oras ng gamit.
18:19.2
Kung walang nabago
18:19.9
sa oras ng gamit mo,
18:21.9
makasave ng energy doon.
18:24.6
So, Department of Labor
18:26.8
ang dapat mag-spirit niya.
18:29.7
Tingnan kung talagang
18:30.6
ang pangangailangan
18:31.8
sa compressed workway
18:33.2
at talaga talagang
18:34.6
dapat gawin na yan.
18:36.1
Sige, di bali po.
18:38.8
si Secretary Benny
18:41.5
Thank you, Attorney.
18:42.4
Maraming maraming salamat po.
