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One thing I found interesting in the OCTA research is

one of their researches was about political affiliation.

So, nung tinignan nila,

31% is with BBM Camp, Loyalista.

20% is with the Duterte Camp.

Although, I'm shocked na may 1% pa rin ng mga Ilocanos

supporting Duterte.

I was like, sino itong mga Ilocano niya?

I don't see that in bag.

Siguro mga taga-dabao na Ilocano yan.

Kasi may 1%, eh.

Kasi mayroon siyang sub-regional, di ba?

So, I go, hmm, sino itong mga 1% niya?

I'm like, what?

Tawagin ko nga yung mga Duterte, man.

Nasa ilong masol note.

So, that was a very interesting survey.

I found it very, very helpful.

Kasi makikita mo, believable yung mga sub-demographics din, eh.

And then, 4% traditional opposition,

my understanding is probably Liberal Party to.

And then, 45%, either undecided, independent,

opt for grabs.

Hindi ba parang good news yan, Senator Trillianes,

that there's just so much more out there

that we can explore in terms of mobilizing.

Na hindi benta mga Duterte sa kanila,

hindi benta mga Marcos sa kanila.

I suppose that will also reflect on the Tulfo brand and all.

So, there's a large constituency that is still not mobilized.

And perhaps, maybe that should be the conversation for the opposition.

Kasi kanina, purong ibang pinag-usapan natin.

Let's now talk about the option for the opposition.

Real opposition, not the digong opposition.

Okay.

While you may have seen the numbers

of Lenny Romero,

Bredo, na medyo significant at 11.

But, ako naman,

ang nakita ko ron,

from 28%, just 2 years ago.

Because, hindi niya kinonsolidate

at pinabayaan, basically, yung base na yun,

bumaba ng 11.

So, I'm not saying na parang,

it's a strong 11,

but, no, pababa yun.

From 28 yun eh.

And that's the same thing that happened in 2016.

She got 33%

of the vote.

But then, when she decided to run for president,

she only was, I think,

6 or 7.

So, inayam mo nang bumaba ng bumaba.

And, ganoon na naman nangyayari dito.

Kaya, I believe,

kailangan na natin talagang mag-ano na,

mag-bago

ng liderato.

And, si Sen. Teresa

is very much ready

to assume that leadership role

if only, etong

si Vice President,

Lenny,

would openly,

categorically,

and definitively,

say,

Sen. Teresa,

ikaw na,

ang ano,

hindi na ako tatakbo.

And, she can ask the pollsters

to strike her name off

any 2028 list for president.

Yan eh kung totoong ayaw niya na,

o hindi na siya interesado,

tumakbo for president.

Kasi, kung interesado ka naman pala,

then, do the legwork.

Diba?

Mag-trabaho ka.

I-consolidate mo yung

pinagkatiwalaan tayo ng 2028.

For that matter,

pinagkatiwalaan siya ng

2022,

ng 28% of the people.

I-consolidate mo.

Tapos, do the other

necessary preparation para kung

2028, edi

she will win.

Pero, kung gano'ng ulit na style,

natitong, teka muna,

wabahala na muna kay John,

I'll just go around the world muna,

mag-chill muna ako.

Teka muna, what about

the problems of the country?

Hindi naman natapos yung problema

ng bansa nung natalo siya.

So, ano ba yun?

Did she stop caring

about the problems of the country?

So, ano yung mga leadership

leaders?

Traits na dinidisplay niya dito

or lack thereof, diba?

Ngayon, sabi ko nga, kung talagang

wala naman ng plano, edi

definitively sabihin mo na,

hindi na ako talaga tatakbo,

final na yan, Senator Riza,

good luck, I will help you,

I will turn over.

So, should she do a second passing down the...

Talagang, eto na talaga, si Riza, by the way,

should she remind everyone

that Riza is the opposite?

Yes, kasi yung unang

passing of the baton, ano yun eh,

merong

over pa eh. People were still

clinging on to that

image of

a Lenny Robredo presidency.

Kaya hindi pa nagsink in

noong time na yun. Tsaka hindi siya widely

disseminated. Pero

kung gagawin niya ito ulit,

definitively, ano no, then

mas, ano yun, mas ma-appreciate

yun ng tao. Okay, we'll move

on na from Lenny, Riza it is,

then let's start

rallying around

Senator Riza.

I think that's the only hope

for the

independent

opposition to have a chance

in 2020.

And, again,

just to be fair here, siguro, I'm thinking

guys, there are people, I'm not saying Lenny, but maybe

there are strategies of her who are saying

let's have

strategic ambiguity

if I can put it that way.

Let's have a strategic

ambiguity, let's see what she does.

If 2025 she wins,

she wins that local government office

and then she does well, then who knows,

maybe she'll be in that position. What you're saying

is that neither here

nor there is kind of a

suboptimal for everyone because it doesn't allow

for Riza to step up. It also

doesn't necessarily put her in the

best position to get the ball rolling

for 2025 because we can see Sarah

is already in a campaign mode

in one way or another. Rafi is already

doing that although he's not directly attacking

Sarah, but clearly we see what Rafi's strategy

is. Don't talk about Sarah,

make sure that you do your part well

and that strategy is working wonders for

Rafi Tulfo so far from ilang percent

lang siya nung two years ago, di ba? Ngayon

35, magpo 40 percent to siya.

So what you're saying is that this

neither here nor there, medyo

mali-late na tayo even though

some would say, hindi, malayo pa naman ng 2028

eh, masyado naman kayong atat, masyado

kayong advance mag-isip kayong dalawa eh.

Well, yung ambiguous

approach na yan, yan yung ginawa

nila

in the lead up to 2022.

Di ba? Look at what

happened to us. Kung nag-e-expect

ka ng different result,

di ba? Dapat, tingnan mo na,

the same approach, different result,

medyo may problema tayo dyan.

Tapos, sabi ko nga,

ma-equate ko yan dun sa, ano eh,

sa no comment ni Sarah eh.

Di ba?

Baka uso talaga ngayon ng strategy.

Oo, parang gano'n.

Ano na, parang

ito lang yung sa akin,

from a,

purely public service

point of view,

bakit kailangan ka pa ba

hikayatin or

kumbinsihin itong makbong

presidente? Di ba?

Kung talagang nakikita mong

you have the capacity to make a difference

in the lives of the people

at marami naga, marami kang

nasimulan ng mga base,

mga base, and besides,

vice president ka eh.

Di ba? Hindi ba dapat

andodon na yun sa'yo

na,

tipong, sige, let's go for it?

Bakit kailangan pang kumbinsihin?

Kung talagang mahal mo yung bayan,

magkukusa ka.

So, yun yung problema ko dyan.

Hindi dapat, eh na, ano,

hindi dapat nililigawan

ang leader.

Dapat yung leader namumuno.

Right.

Just a tiny point on this.

Again, I mentioned yung

40-45%

somehow up for grabs.

How do we get those people

on the,

on the side of the good fight,

Senator Trillanes?

Ano yung mga katangihan,

ano yung mga attributes,

ano yung mga positioning

na sa tingin mong kailangan natin?

Especially mga kabataan, di ba?

Aside from making better TikTok videos

and travel vlogs,

ano pang ibang kailangan natin,

Senator Trillanes?

Well,

well, remember,

yun na nga, kaya binabalik ko dun sa

28% ni VP Lenny

just two years ago.

Yun, they,

they held on to that dream.

Di ba?

Andodon yun.

So, part of that,

that 45% is the 28%.

Kasi ang hiniwalay lang naman

is the

Saar,

this,

the Duterte 21%

and the

20% and the 31%

of the Marcoses.

So, 4% lang yung

Liberal Party opposition.

Oo.

So, bakit?

For that matter, yung 4%

nag-shrink pa.

So, dati 28%.

So, yung 24% niya

nang bumoto sa kanya

nando doon sa 45%.

Di ba?

So,

in fact,

kung sinong pinakamalaki na walang dito,

si Lenny,

yung pink base,

andodo doon siya

kasi nagahanap sila ng leader.

So, the Tulfo-Saara is essentially

the split of unity.

Di ba?

Yung 60 na yan

na spin niya ni Saar and Tulfo.

I believe so.

So, ngayon,

pagka lumiwanag na yung leadership

ng pink,

ng pink movement,

yun yun,

magka-gravitate yun

towards that.

Kasi ngayon talaga napabayaan eh.

Pabayaan.

And,

kaya nagahanap

yung iba-iba

nasa parang,

ano muna,

yung holding pattern.

Ano ba nangyayari dyan?

Sige, abangan natin.

But, ano,

I believe,

ano yan,

it boils down to

the next leader of the independent opposition,

kung paano niya ay kakamada

yung kanyang organization,

paano niya ay kakamada yung kanyang mensahe,

at paano niya

ma-inspire

yung 45 na iyon,

or at least yung 25 na iyon.

Na,

siya yung kailangan pagkatiwalaan,

mamuno na ating bansa

after the Marcos administration.

Very, very good point.

Actually, even more optimistic

than I was considering.

You're right.

Doon sa 40 plus percent na yan,

maybe half of that

were already sympathetic

if not already involved

in the pink movement.

So that just tells you

how much more is on top here

or under top here.

Kaya mahalaga itong mga conversation na yan.

5 am ito kanina sa akin,

medyo worried ako na medyo bangag ako in all.

Pero as always,

more than an hour of conversation,

like a breeze,

very passionate.

Thank you so much,

Sen. Trillanes,

for the passion

and for the wide-ranging discussion

we're having here.

Looking forward to having more of this in the future.

Siguro we can do it somewhere in Tagaytay,

in person.

I'm sure ma-appreciate ng tao yan para,

para ano, ano mo na.

Thank you so much,

Sen. Trillanes.

Magpahinga po kayo.

God bless.

Maraming salamat Richard.

Thank you.

As always, talk to you soon.

Good night.

Good night.

Good night.

Good night.