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why is it in the headlines?
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Yeah, from my understanding, this weapon was developed just in 2022
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and this is, I think, the first time.
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It's going to be deployed outside the United States, so it's not only the first time in the Indo-Pacific,
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although we have to double-check that, so it's a huge thing in itself
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because this year's Balikataan is going to be even probably bigger than last year
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and last year was already historic in itself with not only U.S. and the Philippines,
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but also the British, not to mention Australians and Japanese also in attendance
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and President Marcos Jr. also personally observing the Balikataan exercises.
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Now, speaking of these weapon systems, I mean, we saw also last year that the Americans,
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if I'm not mistaken, the Americans, the Americans, the Americans, the Americans,
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if I'm not mistaken, also use HIMARS and some of the exercises that they did with the Philippine Army
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tried to simulate some of the things that, you know, NATO weapon systems have been doing in Ukraine against Russia.
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So, for the past year or so, it looks like the Philippines is getting more and more comfortable
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with seeing high-tech, cutting-edge American military technology deployed here,
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perhaps also to send a signal and perhaps to also prepare the Philippines for,
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potentially, down the road to have interoperability with the Americans,
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including with the operation of these very, very advanced weapon systems.
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Now, honestly, I'm a little bit like, medyo na pa, you know, taas ang kilay ko in a sense that
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hindi lang dun sa Marites about the First Lady and the Vice President.
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I'm actually checking also the back and forth between the First Lady and potentially the Senator Amy Marcos.
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But for me, na taas ang kilay ko kasi why are we always,
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taking China's sensitivities into consideration when the question is,
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has China been taking our sensitivities into consideration
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when it has been geoengineering on steroids in the South China Sea,
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when it has been threatening Taiwan right and left with potential invasion,
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when it has been deploying nuclear-capable submarines in the area,
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and who knows what else they have been doing in our waters.
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So, I think as much as we should not be adjunct provocateurs,
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I think we also should not allow others.
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I mean, we should not give in to what I call,
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the diplomatic Karen, right, because this is what China does.
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They whine and they expect you to be sensitive to their sensitivities,
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but they're never reciprocating that,
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and their actions do not show that they are sensitive.
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Also, the considerations of countries like the Philippines.
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But I'm glad that at least both President Marcos Jr. and also senior officials like Mike Lohico
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are signaling a potential off-ramp.
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So, Mike Lohico has said a while ago, as you pointed out,
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that this is more for logistics and movement exercises,
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rather than, you know, practicing shooting China.
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And the other thing is President Marcos Jr. also the other day,
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I think, in my opinion, correctly emphasized that we don't want to escalate the situation
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by giving Americans new basing access near the South China Sea or Taiwan and all.
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So, I think the Philippines is striking a proper balance here,
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whereby it's signaling to China that,
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hey, Americans can come here with the best weapon systems if possible,
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and we can be interoperable with them.
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But perhaps if you would stop bullying us,
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or stop threatening us,
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then perhaps we can recalibrate some of these things.
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So, we're also signaling to China.
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I was wondering, it says here the typhoon missile system covers the entire West Philippine Sea,
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Taiwan Strait, and several cities in China.
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I was wondering if this is an offensive threat to China,
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or defensive in nature,
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or may pagkakaiba ba ito dun sa tinatawag na David Sling ng Israel?
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I mean, this is a kind of a mid-range.
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You correctly pointed out how it's extremely flexible.
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It can be deployed from surface to air.
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It can be deployed potentially from different parts.
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It can actually have some southern provinces in China also within its range.
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But the Chinese have also been deploying weapon systems to the South China Sea,
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some of the fake islands that they built there,
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that could potentially also put us within their range, right?
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The Chinese have also been developing this anti-access area denial system.
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The anti-access area denial capabilities,
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the asymmetric capabilities with typhoon missile systems
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that could also put a lot of American assets in the area within their range.
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So for me, while we have to make sure that we're not unnecessarily threatening China,
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I think we also have to take into consideration that we have to also be in a position to defend ourselves.
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And if we are within the range of China,
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and neither us nor our key allies are in a position to also put China within the range,
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then there's no balance of forces.
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So I think what we have to keep in mind is we have to have sufficient balance.
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Richard, we lost your audio. Can you still hear us?
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Yes, I can hear you guys.
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Okay, we lost your audio. Just the last sentence.
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What we need is a balance of forces here, right?
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Because China is developing the capabilities that puts us within their range of attack.
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So we also have to be open to the liability to also deploy weapon systems to our allies or ourselves.
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So it's basically...
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Like a tit for tat, right?
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Like we have this, but I also have this.
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Is that the optics that we want to give off?
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Well, the tit for tat is more like what we're seeing in the Middle East right now.
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So no one is hitting each other right now, right?
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This is just missile defense systems, right?
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It's more like if you hit us, then we can hit you back.
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But thank God no one is in that position.
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And I think it's quite natural in a very tense situation right now for the Philippines
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to consider the possibility of either having the Americans deploy it,
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or us having the basic capabilities to operate it down the road.
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But as I said, it's too early to talk about that.
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Because these are just drills.
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This is just America doing it for logistical purposes.
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But I think the signal to China is very, very important.
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We're essentially telling China that, yes, you're the superpower in this region.
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Yes, you have fantastic weapon systems.
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Yes, we're smaller compared to you.
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But we also have cards to play.
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And this could be one of the cards.
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Because one of the things that we have not clarified yet is...
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But Richard, wait. Hold that thought, though.
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What kind of weapons...
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Richard, hold that thought.
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Is that what we are wanting to show to China?
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The message that we're sending to China?
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Or is that the message that the U.S. is sending to China?
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Because it could be also perceived as that.
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And we're just kind of like the conduit for that.
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My concern with that line of argumentation is
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we are the one directly being bullied in the West Philippine Sea.
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And we will be targeted almost certainly if there's going to be an invasion of Taiwan.
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Ipso facto, because we're a U.S. ally.
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So again, I completely understand that we should not be afraid.
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We should not be a pawn for any superpower.
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We should not be just a forward deployment base for Americans.
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I always say we should not be the Pearl Harbor of America
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in a potential new Cold War with China or worse.
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I agree with all of that.
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But the thing is, we are almost helpless here.
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We have nothing to match what China is doing in the South China Sea
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and potentially what China could do if they occupy Taiwan.
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So either through our allies or more directly,
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we have to signal to China that we also have some options and some cards to play.
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And as I said, remember,
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my argument always was it's about balance of forces but also leverage.
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So indirectly, we can tell the Chinese that,
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okay, if you don't want us to allow the Americans to have more of these weapon systems deployed,
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if you don't want us to get HIMARS and other weapon systems from Americans,
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if you don't want us to give more access to Americans, who knows,
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potentially to Mavulis, if not Pagasa, of course, theoretically,
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then maybe you also have to do something good in return.
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So the thing is this.
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Diplomacy doesn't work with China or any country like that
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if you have no leverage.
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So in my opinion, while there's always a little risk and China is going to make noise,
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but this could give us a certain degree of leverage.
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And by the way, South Korea in the past also had a similar problem with China
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when they actually allowed THAAD missile systems to be deployed there in South Korea permanently
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in the U.S. bases in South Korea close to the borders of China.
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There was a lot of back and forth, but eventually,
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South Korea got its way despite some diplomatic tensions.
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That's already South Korea.
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That's already next to China's borders.
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So I think as much as we have to be not Auslan provocateurs or pawns of America,
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we should also not be oversensitive to whining and Karen diplomacy
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and at the same time think about proper balance of forces.
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We have very few cards to play.
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So it's always good to have an additional card up our sleeves.
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All right. That's all the time we have for tonight.
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But thank you as usual for your insights and for your time tonight.
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It's a Friday, as I keep saying to all our guests.