02:03.1
Ito lang guys ha.
02:04.9
Labas ko lang ito.
02:21.3
Kamusta kayo dyan mga kameta?
02:23.5
Kamusta kayo dyan mga kameta?
02:27.1
Medyo late tayo nagsimula.
02:30.6
ang schedule natin dito
02:31.9
at napatagal yung ating
02:33.6
dinner meeting kanina.
02:37.6
At alam nyo naman
02:38.7
pinagagawa natin.
02:40.9
Puro mga borad jokes
02:42.1
ang ginawa namin kanina.
02:44.0
Pinag-usapan namin lahat.
02:50.9
I said to be honest guys.
02:54.8
Mayroon kami workshop dito
02:56.2
with other experts.
02:58.0
from 15 different countries
02:59.3
around the world.
03:00.0
And ito yung event na yan
03:03.4
National University of Singapore
03:05.5
tsaka isang leading
03:07.1
German team tank.
03:08.9
So pinag-usapan natin
03:09.8
yung mga regional issues.
03:11.4
Pinag-usapan natin yung
03:12.6
US-China competition.
03:14.5
So very serious yung discussion
03:15.8
throughout the day.
03:16.7
So medyo kailangan namin
03:19.9
to be honest about it.
03:23.5
mikot-ikotin ako dito.
03:26.4
ang basa ko talaga dito is
03:30.0
Thailand is not there yet.
03:32.6
But to be honest,
03:33.9
ang laki din ang development
03:35.1
talaga ng Taiwan.
03:37.0
Thailand over the years.
03:38.5
At nung kausap natin
03:39.9
ng kaibigan natin
03:41.2
malapit dito sa area na yan,
03:43.0
he was telling me
03:43.8
na how over the past
03:44.7
5 to 10 years alone
03:45.8
sobrang nag-improve dito
03:47.6
yung mga parks nila,
03:49.5
yung mga basic infrastructure nila.
03:52.8
It's a very cosmopolitan city
03:54.5
pag tinagin din yung Bangkok.
03:56.4
People from Middle East,
03:59.5
all around the world
04:03.7
it's impressive how Thailand
04:04.9
despite yung politika nila dito
04:07.6
has been able to pull off
04:09.9
steady economic growth
04:11.2
throughout the years.
04:11.9
But nevertheless,
04:13.6
lahat ng mga bansa
04:15.7
in this part of the world.
04:17.7
one of the things
04:18.4
na mapapansin mo is
04:19.4
how parang lonely
04:21.1
maging Pilipino sa ASEAN
04:24.2
napakalayong kultura natin
04:26.4
Makikita mo talaga
04:27.0
yung influence ng India,
04:28.1
influence ng China,
04:29.5
dun sa kultura nila
04:31.7
Indo-Chinese countries
04:32.8
whether it's Cambodia,
04:34.3
and pagdating sa Pilipinas
04:35.3
makikita nyo talaga guys na
04:38.3
you don't see those kinds of
04:39.3
influences as strong.
04:40.5
Wala tayong anything like
04:45.0
Something similar
04:47.2
Wala tayong ganun eh.
04:48.8
Pacific island nation
04:51.3
yung kultura natin.
04:52.2
But it's also psychologically.
04:54.1
So kung titignan mo dito
04:56.6
so may mga kaibigan tayo dito
04:59.0
all key countries
04:59.3
to all key countries.
04:59.5
all key ASEAN countries
05:03.4
ang views nila sa China
05:04.5
ay sobrang iba sa atin.
05:05.8
Pagdating sa Pilipinas
05:06.7
ang tingin natin sa China
05:14.3
mas narinig ko na
05:17.3
ASEAN countries dito
05:19.3
pagdating sa China
05:23.0
in terms of tourists,
05:24.6
in terms of trade,
05:25.5
in terms of investments.
05:28.4
Indo-Chinese countries
05:29.4
with the exception of Vietnam,
05:31.3
territorial disputes
05:33.4
they don't have to deal
05:34.3
with that kind of
05:35.0
territorial expansion
05:36.7
aggressive side of China.
05:39.6
wala silang talagang
05:40.4
malaking problema.
05:49.0
because yung Timor-Leste
05:53.5
similar sa Spain,
05:55.4
yung naging Catholic
05:57.7
they're not still
05:59.0
last time I checked.
06:00.9
in that direction.
06:04.1
marami tayong pag-usapan.
06:11.5
to have the interview
06:15.6
siyang commitment.
06:16.6
Sa kabilang channel
06:18.3
Hindi daw siya pwede.
06:20.7
nagsabi naman siya
06:21.3
na hindi siya pwede.
06:22.0
Baka sa kabilang channel
06:26.2
we hope to have him
06:26.7
na lang on Saturday
06:27.5
because tomorrow,
06:29.3
a pretty influential
06:34.7
especially kung manalo
06:39.0
mukhang could end up
06:51.8
Middle Eastern partners
06:52.9
na pag-usapan natin
06:58.8
mga senior officials
07:01.4
where things gonna go
07:02.2
especially in terms of
07:03.0
relations between Asia
07:05.3
and also the China policy.
07:09.4
going back to this,
07:13.9
kasi gusto ko talagang
07:15.6
is dahil tingin ko talaga
07:16.7
meron tayong tendency
07:21.2
and I keep on hearing
07:29.5
has been pounding
07:34.6
in the US Congress,
07:37.4
asking for more money
07:39.8
very, very successful.
07:41.4
So, Ukraine has got
07:45.5
and development aid
07:52.0
we live in a world
07:52.8
where if you know
07:54.2
how to do your diplomacy
07:56.6
sa public diplomacy,
07:59.1
yung public sentiment
08:02.2
makipag-communicate
08:10.6
if you're patriotic
08:12.1
like someone like Zelensky
08:13.1
or some of the other
08:18.4
I'm telling you guys,
08:21.9
Beggars can beg better
08:23.2
and get more, right?
08:24.8
it's as simple as that
08:25.6
because, of course,
08:26.3
pagdating sa Pilipinas,
08:28.4
we are a key ally.
08:29.3
We're an important ally
08:31.3
because of the China element
08:32.4
and we're a threatened ally.
08:33.9
We're being bullied
08:34.8
by the most powerful,
08:48.3
our diplomacy properly
08:51.6
itong relationship
08:54.8
if you look at it,
08:56.2
so I'm just gonna give you
08:59.0
ex-Soviet country,
09:01.1
Soviet technology
09:13.4
sinugo ng Ukraine,
09:15.8
but I'll tell you what,
09:20.8
yung mga bansa na ganun.
09:30.6
treaty ally mga yan.
09:33.9
galing sa Amerika,
09:34.8
mga F-16 fighters
09:35.7
and mga other things.
09:37.0
hindi ako nagsangayon
09:38.4
dun sa agreement na
09:39.4
beggars can choose.
09:40.7
Ibig sabihin kung mas may
09:42.2
let's just go with the flow.
09:43.2
It doesn't work that way.
09:44.3
History is replete
09:46.7
using smart diplomacy
09:49.3
for their country.
09:52.2
ito yung isang issue
09:55.8
influential people
09:57.2
agree with what I'm saying
09:58.8
and then they know
09:59.6
na may kasalanan din sila
10:00.8
sa atin in sense that
10:01.6
they took us for granted
10:04.1
I've met many Americans
10:05.4
who have never visited,
10:07.2
who either never visited
10:08.6
or didn't visit the Philippines
10:12.6
sobrang mababatay
10:13.8
sa kanilang priorities
10:15.5
or we're not doing
10:23.1
may mga times na napipikon.
10:24.9
these are the things
10:26.0
we're gonna discuss
10:26.8
dun sa mga guests na atin
10:30.5
to the US elections.
10:32.1
And I'll be honest, guys,
10:33.4
I'll be honest, guys,
10:34.2
one of the major topics
10:35.6
that keeps on popping up
10:37.3
dito sa mga discussion na atin
10:38.9
with friends in Europe,
10:43.3
hindi lang possibility,
10:46.6
that Trump could become
10:47.7
the next US president.
10:49.2
A part of me still feels
10:50.4
that Trump will not
10:51.4
become the next president,
10:52.8
but I think it will be
10:53.9
irresponsible for us
10:55.4
not to take that,
10:56.5
to take that scenario
10:58.4
into consideration.
10:59.6
And most recently,
11:03.1
yung dating prime minister,
11:05.0
foreign minister ng Japan,
11:11.1
or was it Florida?
11:11.9
I think it was New York, right?
11:13.7
As a way of trying to gauge
11:15.5
how things could go
11:18.5
sa upcoming elections
11:20.4
I'm just telling you guys,
11:21.9
ganito na yung level
11:27.3
many people I'm talking to
11:28.2
are from countries
11:29.0
that are allied nations,
11:30.6
Or European nations,
11:32.3
Or Indo-Pacific nations
11:33.9
who have an alliance
11:36.0
or are strategic partner
11:37.5
or major non-NATO ally.
11:39.7
Including Thailand
11:42.8
medyo mahabang usapan yan.
11:48.0
things are really weird.
11:50.2
Things are very strange
11:56.1
humor is the only way forward.
12:02.0
humor is the coping mechanism.
12:03.5
Kaya siguro kanina,
12:04.4
after very long discussions
12:10.4
nag-usap-usap na tayo
12:11.9
ng mga kaibigan natin dito.
12:13.4
Nagpapatawa na lang kami.
12:18.9
ukol sa mga iba't-ibang leaders
12:20.5
around the world.
12:24.5
and his fight with Digong
12:26.7
keeps on popping up
12:27.5
also dun sa discussions.
12:28.6
Marami tayong mga kaibigan
12:29.5
na lumalapit sa akin.
12:32.0
Grabe naman yung away ni Digong.
12:33.4
At saka, ano ba nangyari?
12:34.7
Saan ba pupunta ito?
12:36.9
kung maalala nyo,
12:46.9
yung kabilang channel,
12:49.2
yung kabilang kampo,
12:51.9
mukhang may plano sila
12:59.8
suggestions or reports
13:01.3
na baka magdi-destabilize sila.
13:02.9
And speaking of which, guys,
13:04.8
meron report kanina.
13:06.7
So, ito yung sinasabi namin
13:11.7
yung the whole pulveronic discussion,
13:15.9
mukhang confirmado na
13:17.8
may mga lumilitaw
13:28.1
itong news, guys, ah.
13:29.2
Masahin natin, ah.
13:34.4
things are moving.
13:38.4
I'm sure you check also yung, ah,
13:41.6
yung, yung interview ni
13:42.8
Senator Trillianes
13:44.2
tsaka yung posting
13:45.0
ni Senator Trillianes.
13:48.3
mukhang the ICC is really,
13:50.2
really moving strong,
13:54.1
the moments of reckoning,
13:55.8
the moment of reckoning
13:56.6
may come much, much earlier
13:58.1
than, than many people anticipate.
14:00.4
grabe na to, guys, eh.
14:01.7
Grabe na, grabe na to.
14:03.3
Things are moving.
14:11.7
Mukhang may galaw na, eh.
14:13.0
Mukhang gumagalaw na
14:14.0
yung isang kampo dyan.
14:15.5
Hindi ko nalang sasabihin sino,
14:16.7
pero ito, guys, ah.
14:18.5
Kung titignan yung news,
14:21.9
ang Philippine National Police, po,
14:26.4
ay nag-investigate
14:27.9
ng mga deepfake videos,
14:34.4
So, hindi na ito biro, guys.
14:37.0
Mukhang lumalabas na ito.
14:38.2
So, the Philippine National Police
14:39.4
Anti-Cybercrime Group,
14:43.0
has launched an investigation
14:44.7
to determine the identities
14:46.3
of the person responsible
14:47.7
for the viral deepfake video.
14:50.3
So, ito na, guys.
14:51.8
sinasabi natin na
14:52.9
mukhang yan ang direction of things.
14:58.7
direction of the flow.
15:03.0
So, ito na yung direction of the flow.
15:05.2
So, PNP is tracing persons
15:07.3
behind deepfake video
15:08.8
showing polvoronic clips.
15:12.4
So, the material shows clips
15:13.9
of President Marcos
15:14.8
supposedly commanding
15:16.1
the office of the Philippines
15:16.9
to act against a foreign country.
15:19.1
And then, PNP spokesperson
15:22.6
PNP, SCG coordinated
15:24.3
with the Department of Information
15:25.3
Commission and Technology
15:26.8
This would require
15:27.4
technical expertise
15:28.3
since we are going to find
15:29.4
the source of origin
15:30.3
and the one who uploaded video.
15:31.9
It is challenging
15:32.5
because we're dealing
15:33.7
and nameless nemesis.
15:35.7
we're looking for.
15:40.3
Mukhang nagsisimula na
15:41.4
itong mga attacks
15:43.9
Itong mga destabilizing
15:46.3
So, itong video na yan,
15:47.9
mukhang hindi pa ito
15:48.8
yung mga polvoronic,
15:50.5
Mukhang ito yung mga yan
15:55.2
ay nagahanap ng gulo.
15:56.4
So, medyo tugmay ito
16:00.2
alam mo na kasi naman yan
16:01.2
yung mga proxy war ito.
16:06.8
sa West Philippine Sea,
16:08.1
yung mga ganyan-ganyan.
16:08.8
So, Fajardo added
16:10.1
that there's a heavy penalty
16:11.6
for yung mga responsible
16:12.9
for misleading content
16:15.0
the chief executive
16:15.9
and the country's
16:16.5
national security.
16:17.3
Guys, may mga batas po tayo.
16:19.4
May mga batas tayo.
16:21.5
May mga batas tayo, guys,
16:23.2
dito sa mga gumagawa
16:25.8
And people who could
16:26.5
undermine national security
16:27.9
by creating fake news
16:30.1
about the head of state.
16:32.2
So, ayon sa Article 154
16:35.1
or the unlawful use
16:37.4
of means of publication
16:38.7
and unlawful utterances
16:40.1
of the revised penal code
16:43.0
of Republic Act 10175
16:45.1
or the Cybercrime Prevention Act
16:49.4
hindi ka pwede gumawa
16:54.1
especially kung ito
16:55.8
at especially kung ito
16:57.4
ay may kinalaman, guys,
16:58.6
sa national security,
17:00.7
So, things are moving, guys.
17:03.5
mukhang nagpiprepare
17:11.3
sabi na dapat balita
17:13.2
but another YouTube account
17:14.3
with the same name
17:15.2
ito yung dapat balita
17:16.3
reposted yung video.
17:19.9
created on April 19,
17:22.9
noong na managsaspread
17:23.9
ng itong deepfake na yan.
17:27.4
or region location
17:28.7
is in the Philippines
17:31.7
So, mukhang may Pakistan
17:33.5
The page keeps posting
17:35.1
which has been noticed
17:40.4
some of the people
17:41.7
who are following this.
17:42.8
So, guys, ito na.
17:45.7
sa ganyan direction.
17:48.7
potentially crackdown
17:49.9
and countermeasures
17:50.9
by the government
17:53.3
itong mga destabilizing
17:54.7
mga deepfake news na yan.
17:57.6
one of the things
17:59.8
that we also have to
18:01.6
there's also a pushback
18:06.5
against yung mga vloggers
18:09.1
ng fake news and all.
18:10.8
So, if I'm not mistaken,
18:14.2
Francis Pangilinan,
18:19.5
Some of the people
18:20.2
have been spreading
18:20.9
fake news, et cetera.
18:22.3
Okay, so, ito, ah.
18:23.7
So, ex-senator Pangilinan,
18:26.7
ng cyber libel case.
18:33.8
nag-file na si Pangilinan
18:34.9
ng cyber libel case
18:36.2
versus yung mga vlogger
18:38.6
and Google, right?
18:40.5
So, alam nyo naman
18:41.3
yung konteksyon na ito.
18:42.2
Ito yung mga fake news
18:43.0
na sinispreg nila dati.
18:46.4
Let's see where this thing
18:48.9
to be honest, guys,
18:49.6
isa sa mga frustrations,
18:51.6
throughout the years,
18:54.7
alam naman natin, guys,
18:56.1
na sobrang daming
18:57.0
gumagawa ng fake news.
19:00.5
daming sumisikat,
19:01.7
daming dumadami ng,
19:03.1
nagpapadami ng followers
19:04.5
by sharing patently false.
19:06.7
I mean, it's one thing
19:08.7
problematic opinion.
19:10.5
It's one thing for you
19:13.5
It's one thing for you
19:14.5
to say stupid things,
19:17.5
Pero, ibang usapan na talagang
19:22.2
you know, whatever.
19:23.1
Ibang usapan na yan, guys.
19:26.2
major frustrated ako
19:27.2
kasi legally naman,
19:33.3
yung panonidigong
19:35.4
these people in courts.
19:38.3
in terms of the success rate
19:40.3
itong libel case, etc.
19:44.6
Well, we saw, for instance,
19:45.6
some of these cases
19:46.4
hindi masyado nag-prosper.
19:48.9
Alam nyo na naman
19:49.4
pinag-usapan natin,
19:50.6
Binooking yung first lady
19:54.0
but nevertheless, guys,
19:56.0
nevertheless, guys,
19:58.7
there should have been
19:59.7
at least an effort,
20:02.2
through legal means,
20:04.0
Kasi may batas naman tayo, eh.
20:08.3
din ang opposition
20:09.1
nung time na yan.
20:11.6
lalo yung mga opposition leaders
20:13.0
na may resources, guys,
20:15.1
Lalo yung mga opposition leaders
20:16.4
na may resources,
20:17.7
dapat tumutulong talaga sila, guys.
20:20.6
they have to set the standard,
20:22.9
They have to show na
20:23.8
there's a fight to fight.
20:25.2
There's a good fight to be fought,
20:27.0
They have to show na
20:29.2
na hindi helpless.
20:30.2
At yun ang, I think,
20:31.1
isa sa mga problema
20:31.8
ng opposition throughout the years
20:33.0
is parang helpless yung dating,
20:38.1
fake news, gano'n.
20:40.2
there was totally nothing
20:41.6
to be done, diba?
20:44.9
towards the end of the
20:45.9
BBM administration na lang
20:47.5
some of these opposition leaders
20:48.8
were pushing back.
20:50.6
it's better late than never.
20:52.8
it's a very important
20:59.9
kapag wala akong ano,
21:05.1
sana, guys, diba?
21:07.8
So, basayan natin
21:08.7
yung news na ito.
21:12.0
this is just the other day.
21:14.3
filed a cyber label
21:16.0
the Department of Justice
21:17.9
against a YouTube channel
21:19.0
creator as well as
21:19.8
officers of YouTube.
21:20.6
and Google Philippines.
21:25.6
public and malicious
21:27.8
continued to suffer
21:28.3
damage to my good name,
21:32.0
The public and malicious
21:32.7
imputations have also
21:33.8
caused serious anxiety
21:40.0
nainisya dahil sa
21:43.3
iba-ibang platform
21:44.1
for not doing enough
21:45.1
to take down some
21:45.8
of this fake news
21:47.9
malicious content.
21:48.8
This morning uli,
21:49.8
pero since December,
21:50.6
nire-report na natin
21:51.8
sa December noon,
21:54.2
naka-upload pa rin,
21:55.1
walang action eh.
21:55.8
Parang ang tingin ko,
21:57.3
arrogance na rin eh.
21:58.2
Masyado silang arrogante,
22:00.2
ganitong klase na
22:01.2
pagwawasak ng pagkatao.
22:04.5
and I think he's doing
22:06.0
I was just hoping that
22:06.7
more of this would have
22:07.5
come out noon pa noon
22:08.6
pa noon in Digong,
22:12.9
Daming tao na stressed.
22:15.0
Grabe nung mga time niyan,
22:16.4
Everyday attacking ka,
22:18.7
tapos uncertainty,
22:21.2
Very traumatizing
22:22.0
yung mga years na yan,
22:23.6
Kaya ang damakong kilala
22:24.6
ng mga kasama din natin
22:26.5
nag-resist throughout the days.
22:28.6
Piglang bumata lahat ngayon,
22:31.0
Sethon Trillianes,
22:32.6
medyo bumata bata na rin.
22:35.1
I'm just saying, guys,
22:36.3
one of the lessons here
22:38.6
is that you have to fight
22:39.4
with whatever you got,
22:41.3
has to be fought.
22:43.4
Because, you know,
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things are crazy.
22:45.7
in the Philippines,
22:46.5
and then, you know,
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you have to be proactive,
22:48.5
you have to push back,
22:49.2
you have to do what you have to do.
22:51.5
you have to do what you have to do,
22:52.8
let's try to end on a nicer note
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kasi alam ko medyo late na rin, guys.
23:00.8
Hindi, ito, guys.
23:04.7
kung anong bagay-bagay dyan.
23:07.8
biglang nakita ko ito.
23:09.6
Nakita niyo ba ito, guys?
23:19.8
Ito, nakita niyo ito?
23:26.6
So, sa front page yata
23:28.5
Philippine Daily Inquirer ba yan?
23:30.0
Or front page ng, ano,
23:34.8
Hindi ko mahalala exactly.
23:36.9
hindi naman di pa
23:38.7
double-A secretary na si,
23:44.3
ito, nag-inspect sila.
23:45.6
some new bridge project
23:47.0
or anything like that.
23:50.2
I just found the whole thing
23:51.6
very interesting, ito, guys.
23:54.3
humusgaw, ano yan, no?
23:58.5
kailangan talaga,
23:59.4
parang gusto ko rin
24:00.1
na mag-ganong, guys, ha?
24:01.6
Gusto ko rin mag-investigate
24:08.8
Gusto ko rin na, no,
24:10.0
gusto ko rin tignan
24:10.7
yung infrastructure natin
24:12.0
na nakasagay dyan.
24:16.6
ano sabi nila doon?
24:24.3
Baka may masabi tayo,
24:26.5
ma, na tayo dyan.
24:27.7
madali tayo dyan.
24:30.6
dapat talaga proactive, tama.
24:32.1
Dapat proactive sa anong opposition,
24:33.9
proactive yung government.
24:36.2
for far too long,
24:37.3
binigyan ng, ano eh,
24:40.2
Itong mga walang yung
24:42.9
fake news peddlers
24:45.0
nag-feeling importante,
24:46.3
nag-feeling expert,
24:47.3
nag-feeling kung ano.
24:51.8
ang kasaysayan ng,
24:55.7
something has to be done about it.
24:57.1
Something has to be done about it.
24:59.2
yung level of disinformation
25:02.2
affecting our democracy,
25:07.7
affecting our national security.
25:10.8
ang ginagawa na ibang tao
25:11.9
is ginagamit nila, guys,
25:13.3
itong disinformation na yan
25:17.0
to weaken our position,
25:19.2
about our position
25:20.1
in the West Philippine Sea,
25:21.1
and to essentially
25:22.0
forward the interest
25:24.7
in the West Philippine Sea.
25:26.6
Please, please, please, please.
25:30.6
I hope, in our own ways,
25:31.8
we support people
25:32.5
who do the good fight.
25:33.7
And please, encourage natin
25:34.7
more and more politikos,
25:36.0
more and more leaders
25:38.5
itong mga fake news peddlers na yan.
25:41.1
I'm all for democracy.
25:42.3
I'm all for civil liberties
25:45.0
But, we should not
25:46.3
allow certain people
25:47.2
to weaponize and abuse it.
25:48.7
Something has to be done
25:50.9
thank you very much, guys.
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And, talk to you soon.
25:58.2
Thank you very much.
