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Author Photo by: jracio584
Aug 25 2020, 1:31pm CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
Aloha and Kumusta mga Bagong kaibigan! (Does that sound correct? Lol) My name is Jerry but you can call me Jer or Jay for short. I am Filipino and understand and speak some ilocano. Because the Tagalog language is a beautiful one, I’ve always wanted to learn how to speak it. I’m surrounded by many that speaks it and I’ve learned so much pero, most of the time, ay nako - nosebleed naman. So I’m here to learn so i can speak fluently and understand more. Salamat! Jer
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Aug 25 2020, 3:36pm CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
Welcome! What is your first language, @jracio584 , Ilocano?
 
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Author Photo jracio584
Aug 25 2020, 3:38pm CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
@jkos Yes sir. Parents and grandma spoke to me in that language. I’ll use it only when I’m joking or talking to an elder. I can get around just a little but was told it was broken. I do wanna learn tagalog tho. What about you? Magaling ka mag Tagalog Ba?
 
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Author Photo Nosebleed
Aug 29 2020, 11:09pm CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
Mabuhay kayo dito sa tagalog.com! ito ay magiging isang magandang katulong sa iyong pagtuto ng tagalog. Magaling talaga si @jkos! at mababait din ang tao dito sa forum. Kung may tanong ka, itanong mo kami!
 
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Author Photo Jimstone1967
Aug 30 2020, 8:17am CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
Mabuhay kayo dito sa tagalog.com! ito ay magiging isang magandang katulong sa iyong pagtuto ng tagalog. Magaling talaga si jkos! at mababait din ang tao dito sa forum. Kung may tanong ka, itanong mo kami!
 
@Nosebleed
 
Marilag na gabi binata! Tulad ng lagi, sana ligtas ka sa gitna ng tanan.

"Katulong" is usually used in the sense of "domestic help" young man. I would also consider using tanungin mo kami over itanong mo kami. In standard tagalog "itanong"| would take "sa amin", as itanong is not a locative trigger verb. Finally, I am just showing my age but youngin's these days always forget the d/r allophony rule, namely that indegenous words with d shift to r after a vowel. Neglecting such a rule is as jarring as hearing "a apple" or "a orange" to an old man such as myself.
 
P.S. stick to singular or plural, your first two sentences use plural pronouns but you end with "mo kami", this can be a bit disconcerting to read. Good effort though!
 
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Author Photo Nosebleed
Aug 30 2020, 9:07am CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
@Jimstone1967 I think you are right about the word katulong.
 
for the d-r thing should the dito's be rito's?
 
I used mo kami at the end because I talked about @jkos in the sentance before. I was saying he could ask US. so singular would not make sense there.
 
And the I verb is actually an object focused. While tanungin may be more common, I have heard itanong used plenty in the philippines.
 
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Author Photo Jimstone1967
Aug 30 2020, 9:55am CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
@Nosebleed
 
"Itanong mo sa amin" would be standard Tagalog.
 
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Author Photo Nosebleed
Aug 30 2020, 9:58am CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
@Jimstone1967
Ive been doing some research and you are totally right on that. Im confused now tho. hopefully you can help me.
I verbs are objects focus. So in "Itanong mo ang iyong mga tanong sa akin" the object would be the question. That makes a lot of sense.
But In- verbs are also location focased so why would it not also be tanungin mo sa akin?
 
I love this feedback and learning new things!
 
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Author Photo leosmith
Aug 30 2020, 10:16pm CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
@Nosebleed
I- verbs are not restricted to OF, nor -in verbs to DF. There is a limited group of focuses for a given affix, but which one it is depends on the specific verb.
 
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Author Photo Nosebleed
Aug 30 2020, 10:23pm CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
@leosmith My mind is completely blown. Is there a list of what verbs can go with which affix? like the exceptions to the rules
 
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Author Photo jracio584
Aug 31 2020, 4:35pm CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
@Nosebleed Salamat po!
 
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Author Photo leosmith
Aug 31 2020, 10:56pm CST ~ 3 years, 8 mos ago. 
Is there a list of what verbs can go with which affix?

@Nosebleed I don't think I've understood your question. Are you asking for a list of roots
that go with a given affix? I don't know of such a list, but you can always enter possible combinations in the dictionary here, or search google, and if you get a hit it is probably a valid combination.
the exceptions to the rules

Which rules?
 
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