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Author Photo by: gadus
Jun 26 2021, 9:26am CST ~ 1 mo., 1 day ago. 
Anyone else find that the drills ask us to score WAY too many points before we can advance to the next drill/exercise? Huge redundancies and way too much time spent going over and over the same sentences, to reach a ridiculous number of points (3000 plus!?) It is not enough to simply correct your mistakes, you have to do it over and over and over again, to advance. Madness.
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Author Photo jkos Badge: AdminBadge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Jun 26 2021, 10:42am CST ~ 1 mo., 1 day ago. 
Yeah, the drills can be a little brutal. The idea is that you should do them until they're super easy and you just don't make mistakes any more and it comes naturally. You don't have to complete a drill to continue on with a lesson, so if you think you've got it already, I'd encourage you to move on to the next section. But, if you're still making mistakes every 10th question or so, it might be worth it to stick with the drills until it gets perfect, despite that sometimes being boring. Anyway, that's my two cents.
 
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Author Photo akosikoneho Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP SupporterOfficial Tagalog.com Teacher Teacher
Jun 27 2021, 1:56am CST ~ 1 mo., 0 days ago. 
@gadus
 
Yung dalawang sintimo ko - this is related to the concept of "over learning" a skill to automaticity. It is kind of outdated in the classroom purely because it is torturous, but that doesn't mean it isn't effective.
 
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Author Photo gadus
Jun 27 2021, 6:31pm CST ~ 4 weeks ago. 
If you don't finish to the required number of points (and collect a "prize"), is it true that there will be no record of your having completed that particular drill? And if so, that would mean that you would have to manually keep track of completed sections, without the aid of the site tools?
 
I don't mind repetition but to have to go over and over things you already know is a colossal waste of time. What admin has control over this? Can the software (?) be tweaked?
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Jun 27 2021, 6:54pm CST ~ 4 weeks ago. 
If you truly learned it, entering it again is not a problem. It would be as easy as transcribing English. Don't be so sure you learned it, if it's posing that big of a problem for ya. It's not really about points.
 
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Author Photo gadus
Jun 28 2021, 9:51am CST ~ 4 weeks ago. 
I disagree. Hammering on things you already know, even with a few mistakes, becomes counter-productive. I mean, surely you are not suggesting that the student is going to know EVERYTHING there is by the conclusion of each section?! Even if he successfully - finally- gets every single answer correct?!
 
But let's move on, shall we? and let someone answer the next question I posed, which was: if I did as Jkoy suggested and just "moved on" when I had had enough of one particular section, the site will not register that section as "complete" and therefore I would have to keep track, at least mentally, of what I'd done, because there would be no record of it otherwise. I don't care a fig about winning any prizes, I just wanted a way to monitor my progress - which with the current format, seems impossible (it doesn't give credit for right answers, if the total points are not met).
 
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Author Photo jkos Badge: AdminBadge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Jun 28 2021, 11:41am CST ~ 4 weeks ago. 
@gadus
I hear you. You're probably not in the minority, the drills were designed to be hard.
 
Drills are not really to learn a concept, that's what the lessons are for. Drills are to drill the idea into your head until they become somewhat closer to "automatic" in your head.
 
Also...I'm not sure it currently keeps track of what drills you've done to completion...wouldn't be a bad idea though.
 
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Author Photo akosikoneho Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP SupporterOfficial Tagalog.com Teacher Teacher
Jun 28 2021, 4:35pm CST ~ 4 weeks ago. 
@gadus
 
Quite a few learners like spreadsheets for this sort of tracking. If the issue doesn't resolve itself, would you like for me to get some sample templates from other learners?
 
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Author Photo gadus
Jun 28 2021, 6:56pm CST ~ 4 weeks ago. 
@akosikoneho
Sure, I'm not very tech savvy but send me what you have. Salamat po.
 
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