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Sep 08 2022, 11:35am CST ~ 3 weeks, 5 days ago. 
Conjugating pa-in and pa-an verbs...
 
I've always been confused when trying to conjugate the uncompleted tense of such verbs because it seems they are often conjugated in two different ways;
 
Take for instance "patulugin", i've seen this conjugated as both pinatutulog and pinapatulog. Are they both right with equal meaning or does usingone form change the meaning?
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Author Photo Juantutri Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
Sep 09 2022, 12:32am CST ~ 3 weeks, 4 days ago. 
@Kersheys
 
"Pinatutulog" and "pinapatulog" just mean the same thing. That is true for other pa-in, pa-an, and pag-an verbs. Since the standard rule for the present/uncompleted conjugation is to repeat the first syllable (or part of it) of the root word, "pinatutulog" should be the corresponding standard form. However, based on usage, I think one form is just as popular as the other.
 
pinapakain - pinakakain
pinapaisip - pinaiisip
pinapaalis - pinaaalis
 
pinapasabihan - pinasasabihan
pinapatawagan - pinatatawagan
pinapalakaran - pinalalakaran
 
pinapagsabihan - pinagsasabihan
pinapag-isipan - pinag-iisipan
pinapaglagyan - pinaglalagyan
pinapagtaguan - pinagtataguan
 
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Author Photo Kersheys
Sep 09 2022, 11:36am CST ~ 3 weeks, 4 days ago. 
@Juantutri Thank you, out of interest is the "pinapatulog" form a more modern variant?
 
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Author Photo Juantutri Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
Sep 09 2022, 9:54pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 3 days ago. 
@Kersheys
 
I don't think so. I've been hearing both forms even from older people ever since. Possibly it's a regional variation. That some might find one form easier to pronounce than the other could have also been a factor.
 
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