by: AndyEllarby Nov 17 2021, 10:45am CST ~ 1 week, 5 days ago.
First of all I think this site is awesome, that's why I continue to be a patron. I am using the READER and as I advanced from beginner to beginner++ I need to start increasing my listening (and comprehending) skills. The READER is good for audio on single words, but it would be great if I could listen to the whole text. I can do this with a little work. I copy the text to a text editor like MS-WORD, then strip out the extra formatting characters, then save as a .html file and open with Microsoft Edge Browser, which as a read aloud function and can select a Filipino voice. It's a bit of work, but pretty good.
However, does anyone else have any better suggestions?
jkos Nov 17 2021, 11:03am CST ~ 1 week, 5 days ago.
Hmm. I didn't realize Edge had a read aloud option with a Filipino voice. It's actually technically not terrible, and can figure out the correct pronunciation (in particular, accent location) for most words.
HOWEVER...it sounds really stale and robotic. I'm not sure this is a really good way to improve your listening skills since it's so artificial.
Do you think you're at the point that you could use the "Listening Practice" section of this website to go through some Youtube videos? We also have a new "Podcast" on this website twice a week that gives news stories in a slightly slower, clearly voice that avoids super complicated vocabulary.
Lastly, this is a little more advanced/difficult, but the "Clips" section of this website where you transcribe real Youtube audio clips into Tagalog really helped me a lot with listening, including getting a better feel for interpreting casual Tagalog language usage. It's hard in the beginning, but gets easier in time.
Anyway -- I really think that at some point you should switch to more natural listening practice sources. How big is your vocabulary? Have you gone through the 2k flash cards on this website yet? I think sometimes it is detrimental to spend too long on individual words or artificial speech when improving your ear for the language. In the end, you want to understand language as it is spoken on TV and on the streets (or, Youtube), and the best way to do that is to just jump in and start listening to sources like this directly, IMO.
AndyEllarby Nov 17 2021, 11:40am CST ~ 1 week, 5 days ago.
@jkos Hi Jos, yes, at this stage I have used Rosetta Stone, kinda gave up on that, so I have a one on one teacher that I also use, but been going through a various other methods to enhance my vocabulary, such as Flashcards from Quizlet. However, I always come back to Tagalog.com as it has so much to offer. I looked at videos on the site, and probably too advanced. Right now I like the READER and I know if I feed it through the EDGE reader it's not the best, but it's better than just reading it. I feel that I need to start more listening and less text book reading. I certainly will look at the many tools you have on your site, but I need to take baby steps to get there.
jkos Nov 17 2021, 11:53am CST ~ 1 week, 5 days ago.
if I feed it through the EDGE reader it's not the best, but it's better than just reading it
@AndyEllarby Yeah, makes sense, you certainly need a certain foundation level before moving on to the more advanced sources. BUT...pretty much whenever you decide to move on to real-world listening sources, it's going to be pretty steep learning curve, no matter what level of preparation you've done beforehand.
The only concern I have with the Edge reader, is that it might ingrain some bad habits...it's always been a lot harder for me to learn something and then have to re-learn it later. Listening to a bit of Edge, I hear several words where the stress lies in a word is unclear, so it'd be really easy to interpret the stress in the wrong spot, and if you hear it "wrong" a couple hundred times through your listening practice, it will be much harder to relearn. This wouldn't be a problem if you used natural/native audio sources. Anyway, just something to keep an eye (ear?) out for.
jkos Nov 17 2021, 11:55am CST ~ 1 week, 5 days ago.
@AndyEllarby I'll also just add, if you're into doing flash cards, the Tagalog.com 2K list is based off of a frequency list from a huge database of natural language sources (like manually transcribed Youtube audio), and so I think it offers perhaps the best vocabulary set on the web if you're really wanting to get into natural language audio in the long run. I may be biased, though. ; )
AndyEllarby Nov 17 2021, 12:03pm CST ~ 1 week, 5 days ago.
@jkos I know. I think sometimes I have too many tools / resources. I am committed to learning Tagalog, so will take any assistance I can. I do think listening skills are probably what I need to concentrate on. I'd be keen to know how others are doing.